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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
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1258.0. "Tentative trip Itinerary (Ireland), Input appreciated" by LEDS::HUNT (Larry Hunt) Tue Aug 10 1993 14:36

    The following is our planned itinerary for 2 weeks in Ireland.  We are
    landing in Dublin, have a rental car reserved, driving the coast and 
    staying in B&B's.  Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated  
    with regard to such things as....

 - how much we are trying to cover in one day (too much/too little)
 - Recommended places to stay (We're staying in B&B's on the spur of the moment,
   no places have been pre-planned)
 - Any recommended sites which you think are absolutely a "DON'T MISS" which
   we haven't included.
 - Any suggestions for the latter part of our trip.  We haven't planned it
   out that far.  We are unsure if we want to travel up to Donnegal or
   spend time around Mayo, Leitrem and Roscommon (where my ancestors are from)
   and then head back to Dublin touring some of the inland areas on the way.

Again, any advice, suggestions or recommendations appreciated.

Thanks,

Larry


Day 1:

      Land in Dublin.   
      See Trinity College, the Book of Kells and  St. Patrick's Cathedral.
      Travel to Kilkenny and see Kilkenny Castle.
      Travel on to Waterford and spend the night.

Day 2:
      See the Waterford Crystal Factory.
      Travel to Cork.
      Drive out to see the Blarney Stone and the Castle.
      Stay overnight in Cork.

Day 3:
      Drive the Coast through  Kinsale, Rosscarberry and Bantry (visit friends
      of in-law's).
      See the Fleadh festival.
      Stay overnight in the Bantry area.

Day 4:
      Tour Bantry Bay.  Kilcrowhan Point.
      Drive to Kilarney.
      See the Muckross House.
      Go for a Carriage Ride with one of the great Irish Storytellers full of
      the blarney.
      Stay overnight in Kilarney.

Day 5:
      Tour the Ring of Kerry.  Go through Sneem, Waterville, Cahiriciveen (sp?),
      Glen Beigh.  
      Go to Laurels Singing Pub.
      Stay overnight  in Killorglin or CastleMain.

Day 6: 
      Tour Dingle Bay.
      Maybe take a boat ride with one of the Story tellers again.
      Travel to Tralee, Castle Island, Abbeyfeale, NewCastle West, Adare,
      Limmerick, and Ennis.
      Stay overnight somewhere.

Day 7:
      Tour Cliffs of Moher.
      Drive to Galway.
      Go to the Horse Races.
      Stay overnight somewhere.
Day 8:
      Go out to the Arin Islands.
      Stay overnight somewhere.

Day 9:
      Travel up N17 to Knock.
      See the Basilica at Knock.
      Maybe go to Ashford Castle.

Day 10 - 12:

      Open ?????    Maybe tour Leitrem, Mayo and Roscommon.  (Ancestory surnames
      from the respective counties were Ward, Doherty, Connely.... Don't know
      where the Hunt's came from nor what the family name was before Cromwell's
      people forced them to change it (from what I've heard about the history
      of Irish people with English surnames).  The trip is right around the
      corner so unfortunately I don't have time to do any genealogy search.
      Maybe head back to Dublin via the Interior of Ireland.  Maybe go up to 
      Donnegal.

      Any suggestions welcome.      

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1258.1some prelim advice.CTHQ::COADYTue Aug 10 1993 14:5118
    
    This could take sometime to work out and give detailed feedback, but it
    looks like a lot of travelling.  You'll see more in 2 weeks than most
    residents will see in their life :=).
    
    The trip from Dublin to Waterford; take the coast road thru Wicklow and
    Wexford - some nice views along that way and its better than the
    "motorways".   It will take a fair bit of driving time.
    
    The trip from Waterford to Cork, again if you take the coast road along
    Waterford and into Cork via Dungarvan etc, makes it a nice drive. 
    Again will easily take twice as long as the main routes.
    
    Seeing Leitrim, Roscommon etc in 1 day ... Hmmm. I guess it can be
    done, but it will at a speed of 60 mph+.
    
    On the name Hunt; relatively popular in the Roscommon area. 
    
1258.2BONKIN::BOYLETony. Melbourne, AustraliaTue Aug 10 1993 21:0140
>Day 1:
>
>      Land in Dublin.   
>      See Trinity College, the Book of Kells and  St. Patrick's Cathedral.
>      Travel to Kilkenny and see Kilkenny Castle.
>      Travel on to Waterford and spend the night.

    I've seen some tight schedules before but this one takes the biscuit.
    Lets look at it :
    
    09:00 Arrive Dublin airport
    10:30 Get to the city (pass thru customs, pickup car etc).
    11:00 Finally find somewhere to park that rented car
    11:30 Nip into Trinity College, have a quick look around as you rush 
    	  thru the campus.
    11:45 Arrive at queue for Book of Kells
    12:00 Glance at the book of Kells
    12:01 Stop looking at the book of Kells
    12:30 Arrive at St. Patrick's Cathedral.
    13:00 Leave Cathedral, have some lunch.
    14:00 Get back to car, start finding your way out of Dublin.
    16:00 Arrive Kilkenny Castle
          Take some photos
    16:30 Leave for Waterford
    18:00 Arrive waterford
    18:00 Find somewhere to stay
    19:00 Eat
    20:30 Sleep
    
    Using this you don't get to see any other part of Dublin like Grafton
    St., Guinness brewery or any of the other tourist spots. You will also
    be exhausted by the time you get to Waterford. You'll have also spent
    more time in the car than on the ground.
    
    If I were you I'd cut a few things out of my itinerary and devote more
    time to the ones I went to. Enjoy the places you vist, don't just fly
    past them.
    
    Tony.
    
1258.3Some thoughtsTINCUP::AGUEDTN-592-4939, 719-598-3498(SSL)Tue Aug 10 1993 22:0712
    In Dublin, I'd take time to visit the Killmayhem (sp) Prison, about 2
    hours.  It gives you a good idea of the past 200 year struggle the
    Irish have had with the British.
    
    Nearby the Cliffs of Moher (sp) is Doolin.  It has several great pubs
    with music.  I'd stay there overnight rather than in Galway.  Also
    nearby is a dock and tour services to the Arin Isles.  Much easier to
    leave from Doolin than from downtown Galway.
    
    -- Jim
    (I know Killmayhem is the incorrect spelling, it just happens to be my
    personal mnemonic for remembering the name.)
1258.4And there off!ISEQ::JSMYTHWed Aug 11 1993 05:315
    If you are arriving in from the USA on the first day, then all you'll
    be fit for is sleep, not the 300 odd mile gallop around the South East
    you've planned.
    
    Joe.
1258.5A few tips.MACNAS::JDOOLEYOn the wayWed Aug 11 1993 08:4959
    The Galway races took place on the last week of July. There aren't any
    races here again until Sept.
    
    You will need at least a full day or two in Dublin. Normal big city
    rules of security apply. A series of robberies and thefts involving
    tourists has led to large-scale media attention, this is more because 
    Ireland formerly enjoyed an exceptionally low crime rate, now it's on
    the increase. This means being careful with expensive items left in a
    car, handbags left on a seat etc. and always keeping a look out in
    lonely areas at night.
    
    Kilkenny is worthwhile a halfday on the way to Waterford. See if you
    can overnight in Tramore, a seaside resort and the only one likely to
    be sunny this year; The west has been very wet this year.
    
    Cork and Kerry; You mention that you will be booking accommodation as
    you travel from place to place; Do this by 2.00 pm at the latest in
    Kerry, it is very popular and full this time of year.
    
    Doolin: Ferry trips go to Inisheer, the smallest of the three Aran
    Islands; the Neolithic pre-Celtic fort, Dun Aengus, is on the big
    island, Inish More, which is accessable from Galway. Doolin has a very
    busy spell in July and August; book accommodation well in advance.The
    pub, O'Connors is the only pub I know of that has Irish music every
    night of the week throughout the year.Nearby hostels and campsites lend
    it a youthful athmospere.
    
    Galway: A city of 50,000 people who are well used to tourists with
    plenty of eating out, pubs and entertainment this time of year. Be
    prepared for large crowds, an arty, hippy athmosphere with street
    performers and , again, book your accommodation in good time. Galway has
    tons of accomodation but you may not get exactly what you want unless
    you book early. A lot of hostels and ordinary houses can also supply
    accomodation here.        
                                             
    You will probably be on vouchers but if not then accommodation is around
    �13.00 per person sharing a double room per night . This can be up to
    �20.00 in Dublin and other popular areas so always ask the
    price. Holders of vouchers may be asked to pay extra for en suite
    showers if they are not included on the voucher already; ask before you
    stay.
    
    Petrol, or gasoline works out about $4.50 per gallon so make due
    allowances in your spending plans. Car hire is also expensive. Meals are
    cheaper or on par with the States and cooking tends to copy the British
    model of boiled vegetables etc. There is also a good selection of fast
    food joints in the towns if that is your fancy.
    
    Like Britain, we drive on the left and also be aware that some road
    signs, mostly the green ones give distances in kilometers ( 0.6 miles )
    while the older black and white finger signs give it in miles, which
    can be confusing ! Be prepared to drive slowly as every vehicle is
    allowed on the roads, including tractors and livestock. Ireland has
    very little motorways so time journeys at 40 m.p.h as a guide, you
    won't be far off.
    
    Lastly, enjoy your holiday. Ireland has seen a drop in U.S tourism,
    perhaps due to their recession and you are doubly welcome in that
    case.
1258.6SNELL::ROBERTSmighty Mi$$i$$ippiWed Aug 11 1993 09:236
    
    yes that right...  the speeds are given in MPH and distance is in
    kilometers.  So when you're 40km away from the destination and
    traveling at 40mph, you will be there sooner than you think.
    
    8�)
1258.7"I've schelpt in them all" :-)HILL16::BURNSANCL�RWed Aug 11 1993 09:269
    
    
    As I recall, there are only 3 pubs in Doolin ..
    
    O'Connors, McGanns, McDermotts.
    
    
    keVin
    
1258.8Take it easier and see MoreSIOG::BRENNAN_Mfestina lenteTue Aug 24 1993 13:47113
Day 1:

      Land in Dublin.   
      See Trinity College, the Book of Kells and  St. Patrick's Cathedral.
      ****************************************************************
      Visit Christ Church Cathederal and Guinness' Brewery.
      A good tip is to park the car in the Guinness Brewery car park 
      Supervised and to wak to the other places. Its good exercise. Trinity
      is also about in walking distance. The order I would use is
	GUINNESS Christ Church St Patricks. Grafton St Trinity.

      
	Travel down Grafton St and have coffee in Bewleys. Then Visit
	Kilmainham Gaol. Its a straight run out from James' St.

	Finally Travel south from Dublin and spend the night around Glendalough
	In Wicklow.

Day 2.

	Travel from Glendalough across the Wicklow Gap to Blessington. This is
	One of the finest drives in the country. 
	Go Fishing/sailing on Blessington Lake. Do NOT go swimming as it is 
	very Dangerous for swimming.

	  Continue towards Baltinglass
	And on towards Tullow down along the Barrow VAlley towards New Ross. 

      	Travel to Kilkenny Via Inisteague And Thomastown. Stop at Jerpoint abbey
	And if a golf addict play a round at Mt Juliet. Alternatively explore
	Mt Leinster area.
 
 	See Kilkenny Castle. Have a meal at Kytlers Inn or at Jim Langtons.
	This is probably the finest pub in the country. Visit Dunmore Caves. 
	Also visit Kilkenny Design Workshops/St Canices cathederal etc.


	Spent the Night around here.

	Alternatively travel down the coast towards Enniscorthy and Wexford. 
	Stop at Ferrycarrig  Inn for seafood and/or porter  Then travel on to 
	New Ross.

	Possibly take the river tour between New Ross and St Mullins. Carry on
	from New Ross to Waterford Via ferry crossing.
 
Day 3:

      Travel on to Waterford 
      See the Waterford Crystal Factory.
      Travel to Clonmel/Carrick On Suir.
	Visit Mt Mellary.
      Spend The night (Mt Mellary would do nicely -).

Day 4:
	Cross through The Devils Gap to Dungarven. Stop at Master Mcgrath's
	Statue. Stop in Dungarven and have a bite to eat. 
	Continue onto Cork and take a walk around.	
      Drive out to see the Blarney Stone and the Castle.
      Stay overnight in Cork.

Day 5
      Drive the Coast through  Kinsale, Rosscarberry and Bantry (visit friends
      of in-law's).
      See the Fleadh festival.
      Stay overnight in the Bantry area.

Day 6:
      Tour Bantry Bay.  Kilcrowhan Point.
      Drive to Kilarney.
      See the Muckross House.
      Go for a Carriage Ride with one of the great Irish Storytellers full of
      the blarney.
      Stay overnight in Kilarney.

Day 7:
      Tour the Ring of Kerry.  Go through Sneem, Waterville, Cahiriciveen (sp?),
      Glen Beigh.  
      Go to Laurels Singing Pub.
      Stay overnight  in Killorglin or CastleMain.

Day 8: 
      Tour Dingle Bay.
      Maybe take a boat ride with one of the Story tellers again.
      Travel to Tralee, Castle Island, Abbeyfeale, NewCastle West, Adare,
      Limmerick, and Ennis.
      Stay overnight somewhere.

Day 9:
      Tour Cliffs of Moher. Visit Doolin and also Cregans castle in Ballyvaughan
      Drive towards Galway. Visit Morans of the weir for Salmon and Oysters
	and Guinness.
      Stay overnight somewhere.
		
Day 10:
      Go out to the Arin Islands.
      Stay overnight somewhere.

Day 11:

      Travel out towards Oughterard and on to Maam Cross. Stop at Maam Bridge
	and explore Pub/Lough. Visit Ashford Castle.
     

Day  12:

	Get back towards Dublin
	Stop in Mullingar etc. If you have time go across to Kildare and visit
	Japanese gardens etc. 



1258.9Ah memories...TALLIS::DARCYAlpha Migration ToolsTue Aug 24 1993 14:2449
    Or you could take the Burns/Culbert approach for Irish vacations:
    
    Day 0:
        Don green apparel.
        Board Aer Lingus' 747 "The Bacon" in Boston.
    
    Day 1:
    	Land at Shannon in a.m.
    	Drive Ford Go-Cart to "Yankee Bed & Breakfast" in Limerick.
    	Sleep til Day 3.
    
    Day 2:
        (See Day 1)
    
    Day 3:
        Awake early for bright start.
        Have big Irish breakfast:  Rashers, Blood pudding, Wheatabix,
            Dairygold margerine, Brown bread, Scones, eggs, and Barry's tea.
        Wake Kevin up.
        Leave for Doolin.
    
    Day 4:
        Arrive in Doolin in a.m. via scenic "See the Burren" route.
        Check into Kevin's relation's house.
        Have big Irish breakfast (See Day 3).
        Wake Kevin up.
    
        Visit O'Connors.
        Visit McGanns.
        Visit McDermotts.
        Repeat until Day 5.
    
    Day 5:
        Sleep til Day 6.
    
    Day 6:
        Have big Irish breakfast.
        Visit O'Connors.
        Stay at O'Connors - Sharon Shannon playing.
    
    Day 7:
        Leave O'Connors.
        Head for Shannon Duty Free shop.
        Buy industrial strength Bailey's Irish cream for CELT moderator.
        Board "The Bacon" for Beantown.
        Have Paddy paged in Duty Free shop to board "The Bacon".
        Listen to new Mary Black CD while flying home...
        
                                           
1258.108�) just an opinionSNELL::ROBERTSyou don't get down from a mountainTue Aug 24 1993 14:277
    
    >>Day 10: 
    	go to Arin Islands
    	stay overnight somewhere.
    
    do go, but stay overnight "only" if you are elderly.  The pubs close
    too early.
1258.11They don't close till October !! :-)HILL16::BURNSANCL�RTue Aug 24 1993 14:369
    
    
    	You're going to the wrong Pubs ...    :-)
    
    
    
    
    	keVin