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1252.1 | | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Thu Jul 29 1993 11:19 | 20 |
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Sinn Fein Head Office
44 Parnell Square
Dublin 1, Ireland
Sinn Fein Foreign Affairs Bureau
51/55 Falls Road
Belfast BT12
Ireland
The Pat Finucane Centre
1 Westend Park
Derry BT48 9JF
Derry, Ireland
Irish Northern Aid Committee
363 Seventh Ave
New York, NY 10001
tel 212-736-1916
fax 212-279-1916
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1252.2 | | VYGER::RENNISONM | Spherical - and in the plural | Fri Jul 30 1993 10:07 | 5 |
| I suggest you find out if they are really political prisoners or just
common criminals claiming to be freedom fighters first.
Just a suggestion,
Mark R.
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1252.3 | | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Fri Jul 30 1993 11:55 | 17 |
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re. .2
That's easy, I gave the addresses of organizations
that will only give you information on political
prisoners. The common criminals, on the other hand,
tend to still be in uniform back in their old
British regiments.
What's to fear with someone wanting information?
Let Mary and her family write, get responses, and
determine for themselves the status of these
men and women. Let them make their own decisions.
Mary, I posted a letter from Danny Morrison (note 1229)
that you might find interesting.
Mark
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1252.4 | | VYGER::RENNISONM | Spherical - and in the plural | Wed Aug 04 1993 08:36 | 27 |
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> re. .2
> That's easy, I gave the addresses of organizations
> that will only give you information on political
> prisoners.
No problem.
> The common criminals, on the other hand,
> tend to still be in uniform back in their old
> British regiments.
Our definition of criminals must be different. Mine includes those who
detonate bombs in town centres (on either side of the Irish Sea).
> What's to fear with someone wanting information?
> Let Mary and her family write, get responses, and
> determine for themselves the status of these
> men and women. Let them make their own decisions.
Absolutely nothing to fear at all. I'm sure Mary can distinguish between
propaganda and reality.
Mark
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1252.5 | whats to fear of lies, deceit and muurder? | MOVIES::BENSON | I/O I/O, its off to disk I go | Wed Aug 04 1993 09:46 | 45 |
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.3 writes
>> The common criminals, on the other hand,
>> tend to still be in uniform back in their old
>> British regiments.
>
.4 replies
>Our definition of criminals must be different. Mine includes those who
>detonate bombs in town centres (on either side of the Irish Sea).
I almost agree except that I think you've picked the groups on the basis on
some particular nasty actions of theirs rather than a straighforward
definition.
How about if we say that a criminal is someone who flouts the law of the
land which is supported my the majority of the people who live there. How
about if we say that if it is the law of the land that it is illegal to
plant explosive devices in public streets and buildings and if you go ahead
an plant those bombs then you are a criminal. Lets leave out the term
'common' for a moment. I wouldn't want to put a class distinction into such
use. If you break the law then you are a criminal. If you kill people and
there is _NO GOVERNMENT_ that supports you then you are not a soldier. You
are not a political prisoner either (to be one of those you have to be
arrested for saying the wrong things, not shooting people). You are simply
and clearly a murderer. Say it again. Murderer. You have stolen the life of
someone who may well have been enjoying it. You have no right to subltle
distinctions of title based on twisted definitions, broken use of language
and hatred.
Before I loose it too much, let me point out that I apply this to lots of
groups, IRA, INLA, IPLO, all of them. They ignore the law and kill people.
They are all political prisoners. I suggest that the readers of this
conference think hard about the difference.
(think calmly colin)
regards
-colin
T
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1252.6 | And NOT all the prisons are located in Northern Ireland either. | HILL16::BURNS | ANCL�R | Wed Aug 04 1993 10:20 | 12 |
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NOT all prisoners are murderers and NOT all prisoners are members of
the IRA !!
Does the term "Supergrass" ring a bell with anyone ??
keVin
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1252.7 | my error. | MOVIES::BENSON | I/O I/O, its off to disk I go | Wed Aug 04 1993 10:31 | 24 |
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re .5, you said:
>>NOT all prisoners are murderers and NOT all prisoners are members of
>>the IRA !!
>>Does the term "Supergrass" ring a bell with anyone ??
on reflection and rereading what I wrote:
>Before I loose it too much, let me point out that I apply this to lots of
>groups, IRA, INLA, IPLO, all of them. They ignore the law and kill people.
>They are all political prisoners. I suggest that the readers of this
>conference think hard about the difference.
I'd partly agree with you. Those people who kill others and claim to be
members of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) are murderers too. I should
have included them the first time.
regards
-colin
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1252.8 | Why are there places like Castlerea ?? | HILL16::BURNS | ANCL�R | Wed Aug 04 1993 11:02 | 15 |
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Re: .7
Do you believe that ALL persons in prison have committed crimes ??
Is there a chance that a few prisoners may have been wrongly convicted ??
keVin
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1252.9 | | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Wed Aug 04 1993 11:45 | 39 |
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How can one determine guilt or innocence of a man
or woman who has been put behind bars by a juryless
trial, via a coerced confession?
How can a man or woman have their guilt or innocence
determined, in a polic state, where silence alone is
enough to assume guilt? I suggest you read Amnesty
International, and the Helsinki Watch reports on
these kinds of "trials".
Now, where does the British record of faked evidence
and imprisonment of the innocent fit into your
picture?
How does the fact that British Army members who
commit murder are either never brought to trial, or
given slaps on the wrists, fit into your picture?
Where does the known collusion between the British
Army and Loyalist terror groups fit into your picture?
Where does the fact that the British SAS who aided in the
bombing of Dublin, and who have never been brought to
trial, fit into your picture?
Would you call their crimes murder, or would you say
that they were soldiers doing their duty, because they
had the backing of the British government?
Is a British soldier who shoots a twelve year old
girl in the back with a plastic bullet a murderer,
or just a soldier doing his duty? After all he has
the backing of the British government.
Now, where do men and women who are willing to fight
against this kind of injustice, fit into this picture?
Mark
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1252.10 | | NOVA::EASTLAND | | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:11 | 15 |
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You have no evidence that SAS aided bombing of Dublin. At this stage
that story is a conspiracy theory still. Most of the 'facts' you deploy
are at best speculation and are therefore best categorized as
propaganda, for which you are a mouthpiece. And once again, I find your
horror at the injustice of it all just so hyprocritical given your
typical reaction to acts of terrorism in England. There is no doubt
some element of oppression in Northern Ireland. There is a low level
conflict going on which does not excuse it all, but makes it rather
typical. Your case would be less transparent if you showed
equanimity once in a while. By the way, if NI is a police state, what
would you call Hitler's Germany or Saddam's Iraq by comparison.
I don't expect an answer, just more hyperbole.
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1252.11 | | MOVIES::BENSON | I/O I/O, its off to disk I go | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:19 | 45 |
| re .9
> Now, where do men and women who are willing to fight
> against this kind of injustice, fit into this picture?
Do they break the laws of the land as supported by the
majority of the population to do so? If the answer is yes
then they fit into the picture in the big box labeled
criminal. If the laws they break are those regarding
use of violence then I think they get sub-classification
'murderer.'
There are laws in Northern Ireland. They _ARE_ supported
and endorsed by the majority of the population in Northern
Ireland (and incidentally by the population of Great
Britain with whom they share nationality). If you are in
the minority and you don't like the way you're being
treated then British law offers two legal ways out.
1. Peaceful protest and campaigning. I'd go for this one. I
believe it can work.
2. Leave the country. If someone wants to be part of the
Republic of Ireland so badly then they should go and live
there. I think they'd be welcome.
If you are in the minority (I specifically refer to the
minority of the population regardless of religion who
embrace violence as a means to an end) and you carry out
violent acts then you are a criminal.
Would you agree that people who have commited violent acts
against military and civilian targets are criminals?
Would you agree that criminals (reminder: thats folks who
break the laws of the place they live) should be punished
by imprisonment if their crimes are serious?
As a trailer I would say that I think that soldiers of the
British army who act outside the law (yes, it even applies
to them!!) should be punished too. The wonderful thing
about the law is that it can be applied to you know matter
how much right is on your side. I like it that way.
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1252.12 | | CLADA::DODONNELL | Nothing personal.It's just business. | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:26 | 12 |
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re .11
>2. Leave the country. If someone wants to be part of the
>Republic of Ireland so badly then they should go and live
>there. I think they'd be welcome.
Yeah right, croppies lie down or else. It could also be said that if
someone wants to be part of the United Kingdom so badly then they
should go and live there. I think they'd be welcome.
Denis.
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1252.13 | | MOVIES::BENSON | I/O I/O, its off to disk I go | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:31 | 27 |
| re .10 from NOVA::EASTLAND
While I agree with most of your sentiments I would say that
the definition of a police state is not at all clear to me
especially in the light of my (only 2) visits to Northern
Ireland.
What I saw was checkpoints with lots and lots of armed
soldiers and policemen. Mostly the police were carrying
very very big guns. Mostly they were pointing them directly
at my head. I found this a tad disconcerting.
If I lived there I think I might be a little happier with
the idea of all the guns. It messes up your daily life but
at least you get an outside chance of being alive to
complain about it tomorrow.
I don't know if things are better in the countryside. Most
of what I saw was in Belfast and Newry and it scared me.
To get back on form, I believe that those agents of the law
(you remember, its the thing that the majority of the
population voted for, in the Republic where I grew up we
called it democracy) are there to stop those people who
have decided that what they want is important enough to
kill people for.
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1252.14 | | NOVA::EASTLAND | | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:37 | 10 |
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I guess to my mind a police state is a place where due process if law
is nonexistent, where the police can arrest anyone, anytime just
because they feel like it. Then they can torture and kill their
prisoners with impunity. I have no doubt there are abuses in Northern
Ireland. I doubt that the abuses are anywhere near as widespread as is
being maintained here. It's the old rub - security versus individual
rights. As for the presence of weaponry, really what else would you
expect.
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1252.15 | | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:43 | 15 |
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re. .11
>1. Peaceful protest and campaigning. I'd go for this one. I
>believe it can work.
"non-violence presupposes that the oppressor has a
conscience."
- Nelson Mandela
Now, what was it that happened to those civil rights
marchers in Derry?
Mark
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1252.16 | | MOVIES::BENSON | I/O I/O, its off to disk I go | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:44 | 53 |
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>Yeah right, croppies lie down or else. It could also be
>said that if
>someone wants to be part of the United Kingdom so badly
>then they
>should go and live there. I think they'd be welcome.
No, live with the rules here (which most of the people want
and vote for again and again to prove it) or go somewhere
that has rules you do like. Noone is stopping you from
leaving.
And lastly, they DO live in the united kingdom. Its all
called 'the united kingdom of great britain and northern
ireland'. They don't live in the republic of Ireland which
is a different country which shares a border with Northern
Ireland.
Why is it so hard to accept that someone who lives in one
place might have some right to vote on the fate of that
place. If most of the people who live there vote for
something then why should a minority of people who live
there have a right to force something different on the rest
of the populace of that place.
Now you've made me bring nationalism into it. I didn't want
to do that because thats not where the conflict in Northern
Ireland comes from. The current troubles (in my opinion and
those of the historians who's work I have taken the trouble
to read) stem from religious bigotries that existed in the
north in the 1960 (and before and after...)
Nationalism (on either sideis an excuse. It sounds a whole
lot better to say that you shot someone as part of a
rebellion to do something noble and patriotic than that you
killed them and deprived their family and children of them
because you didn't like the church they went to.
I have the distinction of being Irish and Jewish. I grew up
knowing all about religious bigotry and I can recognise it
when I see it. I also grew up in a country where religious
bigotry is an almost negligible facet of life. My
grandparents had stones thrown at them in the street. They
came to Ireland to escape that and they did.
I'm not filled with confidence that those who act violently
in northern ireland now would be quite so considerate.
Perhaps if they ran out of catholics/protestants to hate
they could turn on jews. After all, hatred is a habit that
dies hard.
-c
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1252.17 | | CLADA::DODONNELL | Nothing personal.It's just business. | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:48 | 8 |
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It was the reaction by the state (Storment) and loyalists to peaceful
demonstrations that started this whole mess. Nationalists decided to
meet force with force. The present day IRA was created by the Storment
government.
Denis.
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1252.18 | | NOVA::EASTLAND | | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:53 | 3 |
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Oh yes, quoting Nelson Mandela, a well known human rights hypocrite.
Lots of blood on his hands.
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1252.19 | | MOVIES::BENSON | I/O I/O, its off to disk I go | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:53 | 40 |
| My fingers are getting tired but...
re: .14 NOVA::EASTLAND
> It's the old rub - security versus individual rights. As
>for the presence of weaponry, really what else would you
>expect.
I guess I was unclear. I didn't like what I saw in northern
ireland. If I lived there I'd vote for it though.
re: .15KOALA::HOLOHAN
> "non-violence presupposes that the oppressor has a
> conscience."
> - Nelson Mandela
> Now, what was it that happened to those civil rights
> marchers in Derry?
>
Rubbish. non violence presupposes that the oppressor can be
given a conscience by gentle (and very very persistent)
reminders that they are oppressing. Try Gandhi, he managed
just fine without bullets (of course some religious zealot
showed him...)
What happened to the civil rights marchers in Derry was
that they got shot by bigots and fools. The poeple who did
the shooting should have been punished and weren't (so far
as I know, correct me if I'm wrong). That was wrong. They
broke the law and they didn't suffer the consequences and I
regret that.
One day that might change. Of course we're unlikely to see
much of a softening of hearts so long as they along with a
majority of internal organs are covered with flak jackets.
get my drift?
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1252.20 | | MOVIES::BENSON | I/O I/O, its off to disk I go | Wed Aug 04 1993 12:58 | 14 |
| re .17
>It was the reaction by the state (Storment) and loyalists
>to peaceful demonstrations that started this whole mess.
>Nationalists decided to meet force with force. The present
>day IRA was created by the Storment government.
Yes and you'll notice how long they lasted. Does anyone
know when the British parliament got around to making
Stormont a joke? I can't remember.
-c
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1252.21 | | CLADA::DODONNELL | Nothing personal.It's just business. | Wed Aug 04 1993 13:12 | 28 |
| re.16
>No, live with the rules here (which most of the people want
>and vote for again and again to prove it) or go somewhere
>that has rules you do like. Noone is stopping you from
>leaving.
As I've said nationalists lived with the rules for fifty years.
when they tried to change the rules by peaceful demonstration
like you suggested, they were beaten and murdered.
>And lastly, they DO live in the united kingdom. Its all
>called 'the united kingdom of great britain and northern
>ireland'. They don't live in the republic of Ireland which
>is a different country which shares a border with Northern
>Ireland.
Oh yes the United Kingdom. Where you can be deported from one part
of the country to another even though you haven't been convicted of
any crime. The north of Ireland is an artificial state created on the
basis of a sectarian headcount. The size of this state was determined
by drawing a line on a map. This line can be redrawn at any time in
the future. Do you think the map of Scotland or Wales can be redrawn?
To say that it's a completely different country to the rest of Ireland
is rubbish.
Denis.
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1252.22 | | TOPDOC::AHERN | Dennis the Menace | Wed Aug 04 1993 16:27 | 8 |
| RE: .14 by NOVA::EASTLAND
>I guess to my mind a police state is a place where due process if law
>is nonexistent, where the police can arrest anyone, anytime just
>because they feel like it. ...
Glad to hear you see it that way. I didn't think you'd admit it.
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1252.23 | | NOVA::EASTLAND | | Wed Aug 04 1993 16:35 | 4 |
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..whereas I did think you'd make your normal contribution Dennis - lift
something out of context and affix a snide comment.
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1252.24 | reasoned debate implies intellectual honesty. | MOVIES::BENSON | I/O I/O, its off to disk I go | Thu Aug 05 1993 08:06 | 34 |
| I'm going to make this short in the hope of not saying anything too job
threatening.
I came to this conference for the first time yesterday. I read one note
and lost my temper and I started to write. I wrote several replies and
now I pretty much give in. This is the noting equivalent of rolling up
my newspaper and going home.
You are mostly fools. I feel sorry for you. You use broken logic and
half truths to bolster opinions that would get you laughed out of any
court in the world (a jury would probably throw rotten fruit at you).
That on its own is ok. Its not for me to live your lives. However,
support for terrorism from a distance is just about the most dispicable
piece of couch potato atitude I have ever seen. If you feel so strongly
then go and risk your lives.
Several weeks ago I was in an Irish pub in San Francisco. It was filled
with republican memorabilia. Fair enough, every likes to romanticise
about events of long ago (say 80 years). It also had posters espousing
the cause of current known terrorists. It made me sick. These people
who call themselves Irish and finance Noraid are dirt. I'm Irish, I was
born in Ireland and I grew up there. One day I might even go back
there. No one is killing anybody in my name. If you support it, if you
pay for it, if you sympathise with it then as far as I'm concerned you
have the blood on your hands and all the stupid name calling and sly
propoganda in the world can't wash it off.
I'm not religious to any great extent. I do hope though that there's a
special place in hell for such people. They deserve worse.
bye now
-colin
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1252.25 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Video ergo ludo | Thu Aug 05 1993 08:38 | 13 |
| Well said that man. My sentiments entirely. If you want to be really
sick, go look in ::SOAPBOX. By comparison, this place is positively
pedestrian. I long ago gave up listening to ::HOLOHAN and his
unlamented friend ::DROTTER. In SOAPBOX I recently re-asked them a
question, repeatedly, which they refused to answer, nay, refused to
acknowledge my having asked it. I said then, and I'll say now, they
aren't worth listening to. Reading this topic, there seems to be an
addition to the camp, and at least this one seems to live in Ireland.
However, it seems already, that reasoned debate with them is more a
case of self-flagellation. Nowadays, I'm mostly RO on these
"discussions".
Laurie$half_Irish.
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1252.26 | | CLADA::DODONNELL | Nothing personal.It's just business. | Thu Aug 05 1993 08:51 | 17 |
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Re .24
I don't need you to feel sorry for me. Where have I used broken logic
and half truths? And where have I stated support for terrorism? Truth
is, I haven't. However you're another one who believes that questioning
or disagreeing with British policy on the north or supporting the cause
of nationalists equates to support for terrorism. That's OK, I'm used
to that sort of crap. Constitutional nationalists in the six counties
are also used to it and are paying the price for it. The homes of twelve
members of the SDLP have been attacked this year.
Go if you want. I don't like been accused of intellectual dishonesty or
being a supporter of terrorism just because I hold views different from
your own. You won't be missed.
Denis.
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1252.27 | | CLADA::DODONNELL | Nothing personal.It's just business. | Thu Aug 05 1993 08:57 | 7 |
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Re Laurie,
So you too think that anyone who disagrees with you is not capable
of reasonable debate? And aren't you ashamed of your 50% Irish?
Denis.
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1252.28 | | WELSWS::HEDLEY | Conquistador Instant Leprosy | Thu Aug 05 1993 09:41 | 20 |
| Reasonable debate about a subject is fair enough. I don't normally enter
into this particular one because I don't know enough about the subject
in question.
What I find objectionable is when this particular subject is used as an
excuse for certain individuals to express their more generalised anglophobic
sentiment, and the fact that said individuals, when approached by this,
often resort to petty personal attacks.
Anyway, I was under the impression that this conference was intended as
a discussion forum for Celtic issues, not some sort of heavily political
propaganda repository to promote the activities of certain groups and
engage in Brit bashing at any opportunity; a very significant proportion
of the base notes entered in the last few months unfortunately fall into
the latter camp.
Oh well, now I just need to wait for the usual comments calling me an
ignorant twat 'coz I object to being slagged off for being British.
Chris.
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1252.29 | Owned by the former San Fransisco Police Chief. | HILL16::BURNS | ANCL�R | Thu Aug 05 1993 09:48 | 21 |
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I think the pub mentioned in .24 is called "Ireland's 32" located at
3920 Geary Blvd. One of the best Irish Pubs in San Fransisco.
keVin
A fine pub.
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1252.30 | Don't hold your breath, Laurie... | TOPDOC::AHERN | Dennis the Menace | Thu Aug 05 1993 09:51 | 9 |
| RE: .25 by PLAYER::BROWNL
>I long ago gave up listening to ::HOLOHAN and his unlamented friend
>::DROTTER. In SOAPBOX I recently re-asked them a question, repeatedly,
>which they refused to answer, nay, refused to acknowledge my having
>asked it.
::DROTTER got TFSO'd the end of June and is in Ireland now.
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1252.31 | | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Thu Aug 05 1993 10:00 | 8 |
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Brown, and Benson,
Try reading Amnesty International, and Helsinki
Watch reports on British human rights violations in
northern Ireland.
Mark
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1252.32 | Gone for good? | MACNAS::JDOOLEY | On the way | Thu Aug 05 1993 11:18 | 5 |
| Where in Ireland is Joseph Drotter ?
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1252.33 | | NOVA::EASTLAND | | Thu Aug 05 1993 11:50 | 2 |
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Why are we discussing El Drotter here. Is he a prisoner?
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1252.34 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Video ergo ludo | Thu Aug 05 1993 13:06 | 9 |
| RE: <<< Note 1252.27 by CLADA::DODONNELL "Nothing personal.It's just business." >>>
� So you too think that anyone who disagrees with you is not capable
� of reasonable debate? And aren't you ashamed of your 50% Irish?
Your assumption, and incorrect. In answer to your question: No. should I
be?
Laurie.
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1252.35 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Video ergo ludo | Thu Aug 05 1993 13:09 | 12 |
| RE: .28
Well said. Once again, my sentiments.
RE: <<< Note 1252.30 by TOPDOC::AHERN "Dennis the Menace" >>>
� ::DROTTER got TFSO'd the end of June and is in Ireland now.
The first part I knew, hence my use of the word "unlamented". The
second I did not. I hope he enjoys it, I wish I could go.
Laurie.
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1252.36 | | BERN02::OREILLY | There's a fish on top of Shandon swears he's Elvis. | Fri Aug 06 1993 04:22 | 4 |
| >
> Why are we discussing El Drotter here. Is he a prisoner?
>
Hope not. He'd enjoy it too much.
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1252.37 | | CLADA::DODONNELL | Nothing personal.It's just business. | Fri Aug 06 1993 04:49 | 21 |
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re .34 PLAYER::BROWNL
No I don't think my assumption is incorrect.
>In answer to your question: No. should I be?
See EF93 NOTE 52.55. You sign off that note -
- Laurie$ashamed_of_my_Irish_50%_AGAIN. This was because of
the Warrington bombing. However, I don't recall you telling us how you
were ashamed of your British 50% after a pro British group murdered five
catholics in Castlerock in the name of the United Kingdom. But that's
alright, I'm quite used to your hypocrasy not to mention your whingeing
and moaning. I'm sure you'll hop along to EF93 now and complain about
the pro IRA terrorist who's giving you a hard time in CELT.
What a plonker.
Denis.
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1252.38 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Careful with those plums! | Fri Aug 06 1993 05:24 | 59 |
| RE: <<< Note 1252.37 by CLADA::DODONNELL "Nothing personal.It's just business." >>>
� What a plonker.
Wasn't it you who said it was the last resort of a "Brit" on the run to
resort to name-calling and maligning the messenger? Hello Pot, this is
Kettle calling...
In fact your assumption *is* incorrect. It is perfectly true that I
was, and remain, ashamed of my Irish 50% when Irish people can find it
in themselves to plant bombs in a shopping arcade, and cold-bloodedly
attempt to kill and maim midday shoppers, including women and children.
I make no apologies for that, and indeed, I wonder why someone else
wouldn't feel the same way.
I am also on record, and in case you missed it, I'll restate it, as
saying that I abhor this killing, from wherever it comes. I condemn the
killing of innocent people, whether by the Republicans or the
Loyalists. I cannot see any justification for it whatsoever, full stop.
My question to Drotter and Holohan, and one that remains unanswered by
either of them, was "Do you condemn as a cowardly act, the planting and
exploding of a bomb in Warrington"? Both refused to answer a simple yes
or no. Will you? No waffle, "Yes" or "No".
I unreservedly and roundly condemn the killing of the five Catholics to
whom you refer, and if those people were British, (as opposed to
pro-British, as you assert) then I am ashamed of my British 50% because
of it. However, as you've already argued that no part of Ireland is
British, then the killers must have been Irish, which makes me ashamed
of my Irish 50% too. So I'm 100% ashamed that my "countrymen" can be so
barbaric.
Although you didn't ask me this, in that reasnable and friendly way of
yours, I'll state this for the record, just so you know where I stand. I
do not condemn the killing of known and proven terrorists caught in the
act of perpetrating the making, planting or exploding of a bomb, or in
attempting to avoid arrest with the aid of firearms, or who are caught
with firearms. Such people deserve all they get. I make absolutely no
distinction in this, between Loyalist and Republican; both parties are
as bad as each other, they are scum.
You accuse me of hypocrisy. Once again, I have made a clear statement
of my beliefs. I have had the guts to lay all my cards on the table for
examination, and I stand by my opinion as those of a reasonable man.
Will you do the same? Can you see that the killings perpetrated by the
Republicans are just the same as the killings perpetrated by the
Loyalists? You, and others of your ilk persistantly refuse to condemn
the Republican terrorists, and persistantly espouse their "cause". Can
you not see that if *you* are able to gloss over the truth, which is
that these people are barbaric murdering scum, not heroes, that there
are people on the other "side" who feel exactly the same about their
"heroes"? Can you not see that until the killing stops, and until there
are no more people who can "justify" it, that there will never be
peace?
And *I'm* a plonker?
Laurie.
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1252.39 | | CLADA::DODONNELL | Nothing personal.It's just business. | Fri Aug 06 1993 06:42 | 54 |
|
Re .38 PLAYER::BROWNL
> Wasn't it you who said it was the last resort of a "Brit" on the run to
> resort to name-calling and maligning the messenger? Hello Pot, this is
> Kettle calling...
No it wasn't. I have, to my knowledge never used the term "Brit" in
any notesfile.
When the IRA carry out violent acts, they do not do so in my name.
Therfore I do not feel ashamed to be Irish. I called you on the
Castlerock murders because I felt it was just as heinous a crime
as the Warrington atrocity and waited with baited breath for you
to declare how ashamed of your 50% British. You didn't. Double
standard. Not that *I* believe you should be ashamed of it as I
didn't believe for a minute that the UVF (who are a pro British
group whether you or I like it or not) acted with your blessing.
Just for the record, it was you and Benson who stated your
nationalities, both claiming to be Irish as if that bestowed some
extra legitimacy to your beliefs. I couldn't give a crap what
nationality you are. I believe that just spouting the same old
"Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom so there" line
is akin to brushing the shit under the carpet. There is a complexity
to the situation which must be addressed to find a solution. John
Hume calls it the "totality of relationships". The relationship
between nationalist & unionist, between north & south and between
Dublin & London. If a solution is to be found, then all the parties
in these relationships must be involved. That is SDLP policy and it
is a policy which I agree with.
>Loyalists? You, and others of your ilk persistantly refuse to condemn
>the Republican terrorists, and persistantly espouse their "cause". Can
>you not see that if *you* are able to gloss over the truth, which is
>that these people are barbaric murdering scum, not heroes, that there
Excuse me? I *have* condemned republican terrorism. If you read this
note carefully you will see that I'm doing it here too. Now let's examine
the phrase "persistantly espouse their "cause"". If I support the cause
of nationalists to achieve their aims through peaceful means does that
make me an espouser of the IRA cause. It probably does as the cause
of both peaceful and violent nationalists is a united Ireland. But
doesn't the same hold true for those who support the unionists cause.
Those who support the unionists cause even peacefully, are also
espousing the cause of the UVF as their goal is to keep the north in the
UK. Therfore you and your ilk are espousing the cause of the UVF. Whats
sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander but you don't aknowledge this
and that in my opinion is a double standard.
Denis.
ps. I now await notes claiming that John Hume and his ilk are
sectarian supporters of IRA terrorism. It's been done before.
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1252.40 | Do not group ::Holohan and ::Drotter together. | MACNAS::JDOOLEY | On the way | Fri Aug 06 1993 06:52 | 9 |
| I do not see how one can group Drotter and Holohan as being similar in
terms of the offensiveness of their contributions to this forum.
Mark, to his credit, simply quotes other nationalist writers views in
his reports. He does not reach the level of vitriolic hatred displayed
by Joseph Drotter whose output, if it were directed at a recognised
minority or other legally protected group, would warrant action under
some race relations or incitement to hatred law.
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1252.41 | I started in Clare | SIOG::OSULLIVAN_D | B� c�ramach, a leanbh | Fri Aug 06 1993 11:47 | 6 |
| re: .29
keVin, I remember that bar now. I once had 32 pints there, one for
every...oh never mind!
Dermot
|
1252.42 | I Love Ya' Mammy ............ | HILL16::BURNS | ANCL�R | Fri Aug 06 1993 12:07 | 3 |
|
And no Danny Doyle in the Jukebox ..
|
1252.43 | | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Fri Aug 06 1993 14:06 | 8 |
|
re. .35
Laurie,
What kind of man (if I may call you that), gets
pleasure out of another man's job loss?
Mark
|
1252.44 | Get as much pleasure out of this if you can. | MACNAS::JDOOLEY | On the way | Mon Aug 09 1993 04:27 | 6 |
| It should be noted that 780 people. including Denis and myself will be
gone by next February in the great Galway Digital Disaster closedown.
Laurie, as a contractor, could also be gone at any time.
Nobodys job is safe, and they are out to get you...........
|
1252.45 | Plonker? | TINCUP::AGUE | DTN-592-4939, 719-598-3498(SSL) | Mon Aug 09 1993 21:55 | 4 |
| What's a "plonker"?
-- Jim
|
1252.46 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | What a week that was! | Tue Aug 17 1993 11:12 | 4 |
| Where did I state that I got any pleasure out of any person's
job-loss?
Laurie.
|
1252.47 | | NOVA::EASTLAND | | Tue Aug 17 1993 11:20 | 4 |
|
Personally I derive much pleasure from not having to read phrases like
"neo-imperialist toadie boot-licking brit" :-)
|
1252.48 | Addresses for political prisoners and prisoners of war | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Sat Oct 09 1993 23:36 | 728 |
1252.49 | | HILL16::BURNS | ANCL�R | Mon Oct 11 1993 09:37 | 16 |
|
Thankfully, you can remove one name from this list ....
Culbert, Michael Andersonstown life
Michael was released last week.
See note 923.7
|
1252.50 | Diplock Frameups | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Fri Jun 17 1994 15:16 | 214 |
| *******************
Frame-ups of the Diplock system
Travesties of justice
EARLIER THIS YEAR, the issue of what have become known as miscarriages of
justice raised its ugly head again with the massive media coverage given to the
acquittal of Paul Hill in Belfast's appeal court for the killing of British
soldier Brian Shaw.
Following on from the well-publicised cases of the Birmingham Six, the
Guildford Four, the Maguires, Judith Ward, the UDR Four, and Nicky Kelly,
a lot of people must have wondered as they watched Paul Hill walk free from
the court, were there not many more similar cases among the nationalist
community in the Six Counties. Within the community that has borne the brunt
of repression and has seen so many of its men and women go to jail, can it
really be true that none of them have been framed in the same way as the
most famous frame-up cases in England?
Have none of them been convicted on the basis of false and perjured evidence
similar to that used against Paul Hill? Have they never been forced to sign
concocted statements?
Of course there are victims of frame-ups in jail in the Six Counties. Many of
them. The RUC has never had any qualms about fitting up an innocent
nationalist.
The Diplock system in essence is a counterinsurgency process. With a corrupt
and brutal police force, a lower standard of evidence required and a
case-hardened judge sitting without a jury, a conviction is much easier to
obtain in a Diplock Court. It is therefore much more difficult to prove a
convicted person innocent.
In order for a conviction to be overturned, an innocent person must furnish
new evidence or discredit the evidence on which they were convicted. This has
proven a difficult problem. For example, in 75-80% of cases it is estimated
that the prosecution case has depended wholly or substantially on
confession evidence.
However, over the last few years a number of events have come together to
change the climate for those campaigning against miscarriages of justice and
to give new hope to innocent people languishing in jail.
The first of these was the emergence of the ESDA testing. ESDA
Electro-Statis Document Analysis is a forensic technique which allows a
scientist to read indentations on paper. It is possible for a person to write
on the top sheet of a writing pad and for a scientist to read the
indentations on the sheet underneath. It is therefore possible to determine
whether RUC interrogation notes have been fabricated or parts of them
rewritten some time after the interrogation. ESDA testing helped secure the
release of the Birmingham Six, the Guildford Four and three of the UDR
Four.
A number of prisoners in Long Kesh have asked the RUC to release their
original interrogation notes to be ESDA tested. The replies have been
devastating to the credibility of the RUC and point towards a massive
cover-up.
The second climate-changing event was the incredible list of innocent people
(mainly in Britain) released over the past two years. After years of often
demoralising work by many dedicated campaigners, the judicial system finally
had to own up to blatant travesties of justice. No longer can campaigners
be dismissed as crypto-Provos who tell outlandish lies when they say that
British justice jails innocent people.
One major lesson from these successful campaigns is that each case must be
fought inch by inch. Even though the system is ultimately at fault,
overturning a conviction is a painstaking legal task in each individual case.
What is also clear, however, is that while the Diplock system remains in
place, such travesties of justice will continue.
A large number of cases from the Six Counties have been taken up by civil
liberties groups and below we highlight a selection of these.
There is a need for public support and widespread publicity for those wrongly
convicted. But for these cases to be properly aired there must be a few
ground rules. Firstly, gone are the days of behind-the-scenes influence
and cocktail party contacts favoured by figures in the Catholic church, the
SDLP and the nationalist middle class. Paul Hill, the Birmingham Six and
others know the bankruptcy of that approach. Only through maximum support
and publicity will justice be done.
Secondly, there needs to be some kind of impartial, independent body set up
to investigate travesties of justice like those mentioned below.
The following list of cases alleging that a miscarriage of justice has
occurred was given to the Sinn Fein Prisoner of War Department by the
republican prisoners in the H-Blocks at Long Kesh. Sinn Fein is not asking
people to automatically believe that these men are innocent just because they
say so. What they are asking journalists, civil liberties groups,
politicians, the clergy, trade unionists, women's groups and others to do is
to begin seriously to call for an independent tribunal where the truth or
otherwise of these allegations of a miscarriage of justice can be tested and
then everyone will be able to examine the evidence for themselves and draw
their own conclusions.
Barry Murray (Fermanagh) - Sentence: 18 years. Convicted solely on contested
'oral admission'. ESDA tests proved RUC rewrote interview notes. At least one
RUC man involved was also involved in the UDR Four case. Requested further
tests on all interview notes and informed by RUC that these and court
exhibits had 'gone missing'. He lost his appeal.
Michael Hillen, Seamus Mathers (Newry) - Sentence: 21 years. Convicted on
basis of forensic evidence. At trial serious irregularities regarding
forensic procedures were uncovered. Evidence such as photographs, vital to
their defence, were withheld.
Ned Maguire (Belfast) - Sentence: Life. Recently released on life licence
after serving 17 years. Conviction based on dubious and conflicting
identification evidence. Accused of shooting dead a judge. A girl
witness identified him as the person running away from the scene. This
witness had earlier picked out two other men (who had alibis) as being the
person responsible for the killing.
Gerry Magee (Antrim) - Sentence: 20 years. Convicted solely on basis of
signed RUC statement. Statement obtained through use of brutality. At trial,
ESDA tests proved rewriting of important interview notes and false
authentication of them by a senior RUC officer. The two RUC men involved in
this rewriting were proved, on an earlier occasion, via ESDA, to have
rewritten interview notes in the case of Liam McGrath. This led to
McGrath's acquittal.
Ronan McCartan, Gary McKay (Tyrone) - Sentence: 12 and 10 years respectively.
Convicted after a Diplock court judge drew inference of guilt from the fact
that both men maintained their 'right to silence' while under RUC
interrogation. This aspect was used to bolster a nonexistent case. Both men
were arrested along with another man who was forensically linked to an arms
find. There was no evidence to link Ronan or Gary to this find. The judge
used inference and their 'association' with this man to effect a
conviction.
Kevin Murray (Strabane). Sentence: 18 years. Forensic evidence claimed to
have linked him to a car which the prosecution asserted was used in an
attempt on the life of a UDR soldier. When the forensic evidence was
largely discredited, the trial judge relied on the fact that Kevin exercised
his 'right to silence' while in RUC custody in order to convict. A court
appeal, and an appeal to the British House of Lords, both failed.
Edward McClelland (Armagh). Sentence: Life. Convicted of involvement in the
killings of three RUC officers. Conviction was based solely on concocted
uncorroborated oral admissions. He claims that discredited RUC detectives
involved in the UDR 4 case 'verballed' him. When he applied for an ESDA test
on case papers he was informed that interview notes were 'missing'.
Christopher Walsh (Belfast) - Sentence: 14 years. After being arrested by
members of a British army patrol, close to where a 'coffee jar' bomb was
found, Christopher was convicted on the basis of lies told by the
arresting soldiers, and his failure to explain his circumstances early
enough, during RUC interrogation.
Peter Markey (Newry) - Sentence: Life. Convicted on a 'verbal' statement,
made under duress, 'admitting' peripheral involvement in a bombing in which
a security guard and RUC man died. This 'admission' was obtained after being
told that his pregnant girlfriend would be charged.
Brian McLarnon (Tyrone) - Sentence: Ten years. Convicted of possession of
weapons after calling at a house in which firearms were found concealed.
An otherwise unsustainable prosecution succeeded when the trial judge used
Brian's 'silence' while in RUC custody as evidence against him.
Bobby Fitzsimmons (Belfast) Sentence: 20 years. Convicted of possession of a
'coffee jar' bomb on basis of having been arrested in the vicinity of the
bomb and having decided not to cooperate with the RUC during interrogation.
Arresting officers claimed to have seen him act suspiciously. He disputes
their evidence of ''identification''.
Thomas O'Dwyer (Belfast) - Sentence: 22 years. Convicted on a number of
charges including attempted murder on basis of extracted 'confessions' by
use of RUC ill-treatment, injuries, including damage to this hand, was noted
by a doctor. At trial, the judge described the injuries as ''inconclusive''
and stated that they may have been self-inflicted.
Edmund Harkin (Derry) - Sentence: Life. Released in 1992 after serving life
sentence. Attempted to have ESDA tests done on 'confessions' which were the
sole basis of his conviction Informed by RUC that these notes cannot be
produced. His statements were obtained by use of severe ill-treatment which
was documented by two doctors, his family, and a friend who saw him in
custody.
Roy McCool (Derry) - Sentence: Convicted on the basis of conflicting
forensic and identification evidence (ID) of running from a van containing
mortars after a high-speed chase involving the British army. It is contended
that a forensic scientist testimony cut right across the prosecutions
assertion that Roy was the front-seat passenger in the van. This evidence
was stated in court. The trial judge glossed over this evidence and three
appeal court judges chose to ignore it.
Ciaran McAllister, Danny Pettigrew, Anthony Garland, Michael Hugh Beck, Hugh
McLaughlin, Stephen McMullan, Brendan McCrory (Belfast)
(The Ballymurphy Seven). In August 1991, a number of young people from the
greater Ballymurphy area of West Belfast were arrested and interrogated in
connection with an IRA attack. The youths, who ranged in age from 17 to 21
were taken to Castlereagh Interrogation Centre in Belfast and held for up to
six days where four of them alleged that they were forcibly coerced,
through mental and physical torture to sign written confessions prepared for
them by their interrogators. They were denied access to lawyers for the
first 72 hours.
The arresting offices made no attempt to collect forensic evidence and there
were no material witnesses. Among those also arrested at that time was Damien
Austin, whose case received international attention when Amnesty
International issued its first ever 'Urgent Action' notice in respect for
someone in Ireland. An 'Urgent Action' notice is only made by Amnesty when
they believe that someone is in imminent danger of torture or assassination.
The Diplock system was twice discredited in the Ballymurphy Seven case this
year when both Brendan McCrory and Ciaran McAllister were released by Belfast
Crown Curt. Charges against both were dropped after the RUC 'evidence' was
exposed as concocted.
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1252.51 | probably the sunday sport | SSMPRD::FSPAIN | I'm the King of Wishful Thinking | Tue Jun 21 1994 07:37 | 5 |
| re -1
You have not included the source for this report so I'll take it that
you made this up yourself and will proceed quickly to the NEXT/UNSEEN
key .
|
1252.52 | BALLYMURPHY 7 BEGIN FOURTH YEAR OF WRONGFUL IMPRISONMENT | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Tue Jul 26 1994 12:30 | 58 |
|
IRISH ACTION COALITION
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Press Contact:
James
Mullin
July 20th, 1994 757 Paddock Path
Moorestown,
NJ 08057
(609)
231-8606
BALLYMURPHY 7 BEGIN FOURTH YEAR OF WRONGFUL IMPRISONMENT;
LONGEST TIME 'ON REMAND' IN CRUMLIN ROAD JAIL HISTORY !
The five remaining members of the Ballymurphy 7 will begin their fourth year in
prison, without benefit of bail or trial, on August 2nd, 1994. The prosecution's
"case" does not rely on forensic evidence or eyewitness testimony: it rests
soley on "confessions" beaten out of the accused at the infamous Castlereagh
Interrogation Center. The boys were 17 when they were told that if they did not
confess, their family's name would be released to loyalist paramilitaries.
Friends of the Voice of the Innocent (Ballymurphy 7) will commerate this
deplorable anniversary by demonstrating in front of the British Consulate in New
York on August 2nd from noon to 2:00PM. The Consulate is located at 845 Third
Avenue., (Between 51st and 52nd Streets) in Manhattan.
Sir Alistair Hunter is HM Consul General. He can be reached at (212) 745-0200.
His FAX # is (212)745-0456.
In addition to picketing and leafleting at the Consulate , a delegation from the
Lawyers Alliance for Justice in Ireland will present a documentation of human
rights abuses in the Ballymurphy 7 case to the Consul General.
At the same time, a Congressional delegation will present a letter of protest to
Sir Robin Renwick, the British Ambassador, at the British Embassy in Washington,
DC. Your Representative may sign on by contacting the office of Robert Menendez:
(202) 225-7919.
Contact Sir Robin yourself by calling (202) 462-1340, or send him a FAX at (202)
898-4255.
You may also write letters of protest to:
Lord Chief Justice Brian Hutton, Royal Court of Justice, Chichester Street,
Belfast BT13JF. Phone: 011 44 232 235 111
Sir Patrick Mayhew, c/o Northern Ireland Office, Stormont Castle, Belfast.
Phone: 011 232 520 700,
FAX: 011 44 232 768 938.
CONTACTS:
Lawyers Alliance: Ed Lynch (201) 627-8511
Voice of the Innocent: Jean Forest (201659-3085
Irish Action Coalition: James Mullin (609) 231-8606
|
1252.53 | Patrick McLaughlin | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Thu Jul 28 1994 14:25 | 89 |
| from THE IRISH PEOPLE
7/26/94
1. Patrick McLaughlin - Another Innocent Victim of the Crown
by Sandy Boyer
When Paul Hill walked free from that Belfast courtroom many
believed that the era when the British judicial system framed
innocent Irish people was over. After all, the "Guildford Four,"
the "Birmingham Six" and even Judith ward had been set free.
But Patrick McLaughlin from Derry City is still serving a
life sentence in a British prison for an offense he did not
commit. He was convicted of conspiring to plant an INLA bomb
which never exploded outside the Chelsea army barracks in London.
DEPENDS
The case against Patrick McLaughlin depends entirely on
three things:
1. The crown claims that his fingerprint was on a plastic garbage
bag they found surrounding the bomb, 2. A puzzle book with his
name in it was found in the van the crown say transported the
bomb and 3. The allegation that he told a crown officer that he
knew the bomb was being made at a party he attended the night
before it was planted. This may seem like a fairly strong case
but it falls apart completely the minute it is examined in any
detail.
The fingerprint seemed like very strong evidence. But when
they got to court the crown could not even show the jury the
place on the garbage bag that they had lifted this fingerprint.
They claimed the identification sticker had been "lost." So we
have only the word of the British crown that it was ever there at
all.
PLANTED
Patrick McLaughlin says the crown planted the puzzle book in
the van. It was one of several with his name in it that he left
in the apartment where the party was held at which the police
claim the bomb was assembled. It strains credulity to think that
an "INLA bomber" on his way to plant a bomb would conveniently
leave a book with his name on it behind.
The conversation where Patrick McLaughlin told a crown
officer about knowing the bomb was being made at the party just
never happened. This British constable assigned to interrogate a
suspect mysteriously never bothered to get this admission down on
paper or even ask who was assembling the bomb. Just as
mysteriously, his partner, who was present throughout the
interrogation, never heard the conversation. He testified at the
trial that he didn't remember McLaughlin saying anything about a
bomb being made.
OPEN
Patrick McLaughlin hardly fitted the profile of someone on a
bombing mission. He lived in a church run hostel for Irish
people, signing in with his own name. He also signed on for the
dole, again, in his own name. Finally Patrick McLaughlin became
so broke that his wife had to come over from Derry
to bring him the money to go home. From the time he returned to
Derry until he was arrested he lived perfectly openly, signing on
regularly for the dole.
In the face of all this it was only extreme pressure fro the
judge that secured a majority, 10 to 2, guilty verdict. He
introduced a highly emotional account of an IRA bombing where six
people were killed which had nothing to do with the case. When
the jury deadlocked he told them urgently that they had to reach
a verdict because a new trial would be "a terrible waste of tax
payers' money." Two jurors wept openly when the verdict was
announced.
The INLA has repeatedly stated that Patrick McLaughlin was
never one of their members. They deny he had anything to do with
the Chelsea barracks bomb. Patrick McLaughlin is still
proclaiming that he is innocent. He is supported by his family
and friends in Derry who know that he was framed as certainly as
the "Guildford Four" and the "Birmingham Six" were framed. They
have formed a committee, The Friends of Patrick McLaughlin, to
work for his release. You can contact them at 1 West End Park,
Derry BT489JF or call (504) 268846.
|
1252.54 | Ballymurphy Seven | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Tue Aug 09 1994 13:38 | 103 |
|
*******************
The Guardian
August 4, 1994
IMPRISONED SEVEN DISPUTE CONFESSIONS;
A group of Belfast youths have spent three years in jail accused of involvement
in an IRA attack without coming to trial. David Sharrock reports
Tony Garland began his fourth year of imprisonment this week for a crime he
says he did not commit and of which he has not been found guilty. The only
evidence against him is a confession which he says was beaten out of him.
Just 20 years old, he is bitter that he has grown from a boy into a man in
jail. There is no consolation in the fact that he has shared the experience
with six other young men from Ballymurphy in west Belfast.
The case of the Ballymurphy Seven began with an IRA "coffee-jar bomb" attack
on a joint army-Royal Ulster Constabulary foot patrol, Mr Garland's mother,
Josie, recalled yesterday.
"The people that did the attack at the top of the crescent ran down the side
of our house and out the back over the fence. Within minutes about eight
soldiers and police were in our house. Tony answered the door and they searched
the place and left.
"They were back again in 10 minutes and away again. Then back again an hour
later. This time they took Tony away."
Mrs Garland did not see him again until the following Thursday. During seven
days of questioning at the Castlereagh holding centre he had been charged with
attempted murder. "He was gaunt and just lifeless, he'd lost a stone and a half.
I said to him, 'In the name of God Tony, what did you sign to get like that?'
and he said, 'Mummy, you don't know what they do to you in here. I would have
signed anything to get out of this place'."
In all, seven boys were arrested, two of them four days after the IRA
attack. The others were friends of Tony's who had been hanging around outside
his house while it was being searched. Three years on, the only evidence
against any of them is a series of disputed signed confessions.
"The soldiers and police actually saw who did it, but as far as they're
concerned if they can't get the right people they'll get someone else," Mrs
Garland said. "If they had any concrete evidence on them it would have come to
court long, long ago."
Even by the standards of the Northern Ireland judicial system, in which
trial delays of up to two years are commonplace for terrorism-related offences,
the case of the seven is unusual. It has been complicated by the number of
defendants and the fact that defence and prosecution lawyers are fighting every
inch of its progress.
The case is currently at the stage of a voir dire - a preliminary trial
testing the admissibility of the confessions. One of the seven was acquitted
earlier this year because of his "mental state" during detention in Castlereagh.
Mr Justice Brian Kerr told Ciaran McAllister, aged 19: "I hope you can put the
past behind you and profit from your experience."
"How can he say that when they've just wasted the best years of their lives,
locked up for 22 hours a day?" asked Mrs Garland. Her son had been training to
become a joiner. "Nobody's going to give him a job now, even if he is
acquitted."
When the boys began their imprisonment a request that they be held at a
young offenders' centre was rejected because of the seriousness of the charges.
At the Crumlin Road jail they requested a transfer to the republican wing
because of threats made against them. They are now in the Maze.
Mrs Garland and the other mothers fret the effect of their incarceration.
"You don't know what they've picked up in there, what's going through their
minds. They've been institutionalised by it."
A support group for the seven has attracted considerable publicity in the
United States. The case has also focused attention on the issue of lengthy
detention on the basis of controversial confession evidence alone, and the
RUC's refusal to record police interviews.
Six of the seven were offered plea-bargaining style deals at Christmas, in
which they were promised their release on the basis of a five-year jail term in
return for guilty pleas. All refused, in spite of facing sentences of up to 14
years.
"It's bad enough that they've been held for so long for something the RUC
know they never did, and people's attitude in future is always going to be,
Well, you didn't get arrested for nothing. But they're going to come out as
innocent," Mrs Garland said.
|
1252.55 | A letter to John Major from U.S. Congressmen | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Mon Aug 15 1994 12:32 | 95 |
|
from An Phoblacht/Republican News
August 4, 1994
********************
a letter to John Major
John Major
Prime Minister
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
10 Downing Street
London, England
Dear Mr. Prime Minister:
On August 22, 1994 the case of the "Ballymurphy Seven" will belatedly resume
in Belfast, Northern Ireland. Seven young men from the greater Ballymurphy
area of West Belfast, ages 16 through 21 at the time of arrest, are apparent
victims of a miscarriage of justice perpetrated by the British system
operating in Ireland.
Seven of the boys were arrested in connection with a coffee-jar bomb attack
on security forces in August of 1991. No security forces were hurt, but a
civilian passerby was injured.
There are no eyewitnesses to identify the boys and no forensic evidence
exists to connect them to the incident. The boys continue to insist that the
only evidence were forced, coerced confessions. Amnesty International
notes concerns that all of the young men's confessions were obtained only
as a result of coercion and ill-treatment by the Royal Ulster Constabulary
(RUC) during interrogations at Castlereagh prison in Belfast. One boy claims
that he "confessed" when security officers threatened to kill his family.
These are not isolated instances. The Department of State's Country Reports
for Human Rights Practices for 1993 notes that British courts on several
occasions have denied citizens the right to a fair trial. A review of
individual cases ordered by the Office of the Home Secretary found that:
"...[the] lower courts often relied too heavily on uncorroborated confessions
and assumed the integrity of police was unreproachable; appellate court
judges tended to accept lower court rulings without closely examining
procedural flaws and new evidence and occasionally displayed open hostility
to the defense..."
Fortunately, two of the seven boys have been released after they were found
innocent in court for lack of idence. Ciaren McAllister was freed on bail
in December of 1992, and on May 24, 1994 was acquitted by Justice Kerr of
the Belfast Crown Court of charges of attempted murder. Brendan McRory was
also found innocent after Justice Kerr ruled his confession inadmissible due
to the circumstances of the interrogation.
Unfortunately, five of the boys remain in prison. They have been hold without
bail since August of 1991. August 2, 1994 will mark the third year and the
beginning of the fourth year of their detention. This is the longest period
any unconvicted suspect has been held on remand in the history of the Crumlin
Road Prison in Belfast.
We urge you to take the following measures: expedite the pretrial hearing
process; determine whether the basis for prosecutions is adequate and the
trial is conducted in conformity with international judicial fair standards;
put an end to the routine denial of immediate legal assistance to Catholic
suspects in Northern Ireland, including having suspects' attorneys present
during interrogation; and permit video- and audio-taping during
interrogation. These modest measures would assist the British Government
in making credible their claim that justice is apportioned fairly in
Northern Ireland.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if we may be of assistance in this matter.
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely yours,
Robert Menendez, Member of Congress
Thomas J. Manton, Member of Congress
Benjamin A. Gilman, Member of Congress
Hamilton Fish, Member of Congress
Peter T. King, Member of Congress
Richard Neal, Member of Congress
Christopher H. Smith, Member of Congress
George Brown, Jr., Member of Congress
Herb Klein, Member of Congress
Gary L. Ackerman, Member of Congress
Frank Pallone, Jr., Member of Congress
David A. Levy, Member of Congress
Martin T. Meehan, Member of Congress
Joseph P. Kennedy, II, Member of Congress
Eliot L. Engel, Member of Congress
Ronald K. Machtley, Member of Congress
Peter Blute, Member of Congress
Robert A. Borski, Member of Congress
Howard L. Berman, Member of Congress
William O. Lipinski, Member of Congress
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1252.56 | Republcan Roll of Honor/ Names and addresses of prisoners | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Mon Aug 29 1994 13:10 | 1025 |
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**Republican Roll of Honour**
An Phoblacht/Republican News Compiled April 5 1993
BELFAST BRIGADE
1st Battalion
Vol Tony Henderson Apr. 4th 1971
Vol Terence McDermott Oct. 2nd 1971
Vol Martin Forsythe Oct. 24th 1971
Vol Tony Jordan June 28th 1972
Vol John Finucane June 28th 1972
Vol Francis Hall Aug. 30th 1973
Vol Gerard Fennell Nov. 8th 1974
Vol John Rooney Nov. 5th 1974
Vol Sean McDermott Apr. 5th 1976
Vol Thomas Kane July 6th 1976
Vol Danny Lennon Aug. 10th 1976
Vol Brendan O'Callaghan Apr. 23rd 1977
Vol Dan Turley June 9th 1983
Vol Jim McKernan Sept. 14th 1986
Vol Margaret McArdle June 7th 1987
Vol Kevin McCracken Mar. 14th 1988
Vol Caoimhin Mac Bradaigh Mar. 16th 1988
Vol Patricia Black Nov. 15th 1991
Vol Frankie Ryan Nov. 15th 1991
2nd Battalion
Vol Liam McParland Nov. 6th 1969
Vol Jimmy Steele Aug. 9th 1970
Vol Peter Blake Oct. 27th 1970
Vol Tom McGoldrick Oct. 27th 1970
Vol Charles Hughes Mar. 8th 1971
Vol Seamus Simpson Aug. 11th 1971
Vol Danny O'Neill Jan. 7th 1972
Vol Albert Kavanagh Mar. 4th 1972
Vol Gerard Crossan Mar. 9th 1972
Vol Tony Lewis Mar. 9th 1972
Vol Sean Johnston Mar. 9th 1972
Vol Tom McCann Mar. 9th 1972
Vol Patrick Campbell Mar. 25th 1972
Vol Robert McCrudden Aug. 3rd 1972
Vol Michael Clarke Aug. 11th 1972
Vol Jimmy Quigley Sept. 29th 1972
Vol Daniel McAreavey Oct. 6th 1972
Vol Patrick Maguire Oct.10th 1972
Vol John Donaghy Oct. 10th 1972
Vol Joseph McKinney Oct. 10th 1972
Vol Stan Carberry Nov. 13th 1972
Vol Francis Liggett Jan. 18th 1973
Vol Edward O'Rawe Apr.12th 1973
Vol Patrick Mulvenna Aug. 31st 1973
Vol James Bryson Sept. 22nd 1973
Vol Martin Skillen Aug. 3rd 1974
Vol John Kelly Jan. 21st 1975
Vol John Stone Jan. 21st 1975
Vol Paul Fox Dec. 1st 1975
Vol Sean Bailey Feb. 13th 1976
Vol James McGrillen Feb. 15th 1976
Vol Paul Marlowe Oct. 16th 1976
Vol Tommy Tolan July 27th 1977
Vol Billy Carson Apr. 25th 1979
Vol Kevin Delaney Jan. 17th 1980
Vol Terence O'Neill July 1st 1980
Vol Liam Hannaway Feb. 2nd 1981
Vol James Burns Feb. 23rd 1981
Vol Tony Campbell Aug. 4th 1985
Vol Brian Dempsey June 25th 1986
Vol Finbarr McKenna May 2nd 1987
3rd Battalion
Vol Henry McIlhone June 27th 1970
Vol Michael Kane Sept. 4th 1970
Vol James Saunders Feb. 6th 1971
Vol Billy Reid May 15th 1971
Vol Patrick McAdorey Aug. 9th 1971
Vol Tony Nolan Dec. 8th 1971
Vol Gerald McDade Dec. 21st 1971
Vol Joseph Cunningham Feb. 10th 1972
Vol Gerard Bell Feb. 21st 1972
Vol Gerard Steele Feb. 21st 1972
Vol Robert Dorrian Feb. 21st 1972
Vol Joseph Magee Feb. 21st 1972
Vol Samuel Hughes Apr. 7th 1972
Vol Charles McCrystal Apr. 7th 1972
Vol John McErlean Apr. 7th 1972
Vol Edward McDonnell May 28th 1972
Vol Jackie McIlhone May 28th 1972
Vol Joseph Fitzsimmons May 28th 1972
Vol Martin Engelen May 28th 1972
Vol Louis Scullion July 14th 1972
Vol James Reid July 15th 1972
Vol Joseph Downey July 21st 1972
Vol Seamus Cassidy July 28th 1972
Vol James Sloan Feb. 3rd 1973
Vol Tony Campbell Feb. 4th 1973
Vol James McCann Feb. 4th 1973
Vol Patrick McCabe Mar. 27th 1973
Vol Brian Smyth Apr. 17th 1973
Vol Sean McKee May 18th 1973
Vol Frederick Leonard May 7th 1974
Vol Seamus McCusker Oct. 31st 1975
Vol Martin McDonagh Jan. 13th 1976
Vol Frank Fitzsimmons Oct. 16th 1976
Vol Joseph Surgenor Oct. 16th 1976
Vol Trevor McKibbin Apr. 17th 1977
Vol Jackie McMahon Jan. 18th 1978
Vol Jackie Mailey June 21st 1978
Vol Denis Brown June 21st 1978
Vol Jim Mulvenna June 21st 1978
Vol Laurence Montgomery Jan. 5th 1979
Vol Frankie Donnelly Jan 5th 1979
Vol Martin McKenna Oct. 23rd 1979
Vol Laurence Marley Apr. 2nd 1987
Vol Brendan Davison July 25th 1988
Vol Pearse Jordan Nov 25th 1992
Vol Thomas Begley Oct 23rd 1993
CLARE
Vol Hugh Hehir May 6th 1988
CORK
Vol Tony Ahern May 10th 1973
Vol Dermot Crowley June 25th 1973
CUMANN NA mBAN
BELFAST
Vol Dorothy Maguire Oct. 23rd 1971
Vol Maura Meehan Oct. 23rd 1971
Vol Anne Parker Aug. 11th 1972
Vol Anne Marie Petticrew Sept. 1st 1973
Vol Bridie Dolan Feb. 9th 1975
Vol Laura Crawford Dec. 1st 1975
Vol Rosemary Bleakley Jan. 13th 1976
DOWNPATRICK
Vol Vivien Fitzsimmons Feb. 10th 1973
NEWCASTLE
Vol Pauline Kane July 21st 1973
PORTADOWN
Vol Julie Dougan July 8th 1972
DERRY BRIGADE
Vol Thomas McCool June 27th 1970
Vol Joseph Coyle June 27th 1970
Vol Thomas Carlin July 8th 1970
Vol Eamonn Lafferty Aug. 18th 1971
Vol James O'Hagan Aug. 19th 1971
Vol Colm Keenan Mar. 14th 1972
Vol Eugene McGillan Mar. 14th 1972
Vol John Starrs May 13th 1972
Vol Seamus Bradley July 31st 1972
Vol Michael Quigley Sept.17th 1972
Vol John Brady Nov. 28th 1972
Vol James Carr Nov. 28th 1972
Vol James McDaid Dec. 29th 1972
Vol Joe Walker Dec. 3rd 1973
Vol Gerard Craig June 24th 1974
Vol David Russell June 24th 1974
Vol Michael Meenan Oct. 30th 1974
Vol John McDaid Dec. 7th 1974
Vol Ethel Lynch Dec. 7th 1974
Vol Jim Gallagher May 17th 1976
Vol Brian Coyle June 30th 1976
Vol Pat Harkin 1976
Vol Denis Heaney June 10th 1978
Vol Patrick Duffy Nov. 24th 1978
Vol George McBrearty May 28th 1981
Vol Charles Maguire May 28th 1981
Vol Eamonn Bradley Aug. 25th 1982
Vol Phil O'Donnell Dec. 24th 1982
Vol Richard Quigley Apr. 21st 1984
Vol Ciaran Fleming Dec. 2nd 1984
Vol Danny Doherty Dec. 6th 1984
Vol Willie Fleming Dec. 6th 1984
Vol Charles English Aug. 6th 1985
Vol Tony Gough Feb. 22nd 1986
Vol Philip McFadden May 31st 1986
Vol Patrick O'Hagan Aug. 9th 1986
Vol Gerard Logue Mar. 22nd 1987
Vol Paddy Deery Oct. 28th 1987
Vol Eddie McSheffrey Oct. 28th 1987
COUNTY DERRY
Vol Martin Lee Dec. 18th 1971
Vol John Bateson Dec. 18th 1971
Vol James Sheridan Dec. 18th 1971
Vol Danny McMullan Feb. 7th 1982
Vol Antoine
Mac Giolla Bhrighde Dec. 2nd 1984
Vol James Kelly Mar. 25th 1993
DONEGAL
Vol Peter McElcar July 17th 1976
Vol Raymond McLaughlin Sept. 9th 1985
DUBLIN
Vol Patrick Cannon July 17th 1976
Vol Colm Daltun Jan. 15th 1983
Vol Mick Timothy Jan. 26th 1985
Vol Christy Harford May 5th 1992
ENGLAND
Vol Michael Gaughan
(Parkhurst Prison) June 3rd 1974
Vol James McDade Nov. 14th 1974
Vol Brian Fox Dec. 21st 1974
Vol Francis Stagg
(Wakefield Prison) Feb. 12th 1976
FIANNA EIREANN
Fian Gerald McAuley Aug. 15th 1969
Fian Michael Sloan Jan. 11th 1972
Fian Eamon McCormick Jan. 16th 1972
Fian Gerry Donaghy Jan. 30th 1972
Fian David McAuley Feb. 19th 1972
Fian Sean O'Riordan Mar. 23rd 1972
Fian Michael Magee May 13th 1972
Fian Joseph Campbell June 11th 1972
Fian John Dougal July 9th 1972
Fian Tobias Molloy July 16th 1972
Fian Joseph McComiskey Sept. 20th 1972
Fian Bernard Fox Dec. 4th 1972
Fian Sean Hughes Dec. 4th 1972
Fian Michael Marley Nov. 24th 1973
Fian Robert Allsopp Mar. 23rd 1975
Fian Kevin McAuley Nov. 6th 1975
Fian James O'Neill Feb. 12th 1976
Fian Paul McWilliams Aug. 9th 1977
Fian John Dempsey July 8th 1981
GHQ STAFF
Vol Jack McCabe Dec. 27th 1971
Vol Thomas O'Donnell May 17th 1973
Vol Mairead Farrell Mar. 6th 1988
Vol Dan McCann Mar. 6th 1988
Vol Sean Savage Mar. 6th 1988
LAOIS
Vol Michael Motley June 12th 1993
LIMERICK
Vol Patrick Sheehy Jan. 2nd 1991
LONG KESH
Vol Francis Dodds Sept. 9th 1973
Vol Teddy Campbell May 3rd 1974
Vol Patrick Teer July 2nd 1974
Vol Hugh Coney Nov. 6th 1974
Vol James Moyne Jan. 13th 1975
Vol Henry Heaney June 4th 1978
Vol Sean Bateson June 7th 1990
H-BLOCK MARTYRS
Vol Bobby Sands May 5th 1981
Vol Francis Hughes May 12th 1981
Vol Raymond McCreesh May 21st 1981
Vol Patsy O'Hara (INLA) May 21st 1981
Vol Joe McDonnell July 8th 1981
Vol Martin Hurson July 13th 1981
Vol Kevin Lynch (INLA) Aug. 1st 1981
Vol Kieran Doherty Aug. 2nd 1981
Vol Thomas McElwee Aug. 8th 1981
Vol Mickey Devine (INLA) Aug. 20th 1981
MONAGHAN
Vol Sean McKenna June 5th 1975
Vol Peadar Mohan Feb. 1st 1981
NEWRY
Vol Colm Murtagh Aug. 9th 1972
Vol Patrick Hughes Aug. 22nd 1972
Vol Oliver Rowntree Aug. 22nd 1972
Vol Noel Madden Aug. 22nd 1972
Vol Brendan Quinn Dec. 24th 1973
Vol Edward Grant Dec. 24th 1973
Vol Patrick McKeown Aug. 27th 1974
Vol Michael Hughes Oct. 18th 1974
Vol Robert Carr Apr. 1st 1980
Vol Brendan Watters Aug. 8th 1984
NORTH ANTRIM
Vol Phelim Grant Feb. 5th 1972
Vol Charles McCann Feb. 5th 1972
Vol Henry Hogan Feb. 21st 1984
Vol Declan Martin Feb. 21st 1984
Vol Peter Rodden Dec. 7th 1987
Vol Gerard Casey Apr. 4th 1989
NORTH ARMAGH
Vol Michael Crossey Nov. 22nd 1971
Vol Charles Agnew Dec. 17th 1971
Vol John Francis Green Jan. 10th 1975
Vol Terry Brady Dec 5th 1975
Vol David Kennedy Dec. 10th 1975
Vol Sean Burns Nov. 11th 1982
Vol Gervase McKerr Nov. 11th 1982
Vol Eugene Toman Nov. 11th 1982
Vol Eddie Dynes Mar. 1st 1983
Vol Sean McIlvenna Dec. 17th 1984
PORTLAOISE
Vol Thomas Smith Mar. 17th 1975
Vol Brendan Seery Feb. 19th 1992
SLIGO
Vol Kevin Coen Jan. 20th 1975
Vol Joseph MacManus Feb. 5th 1992
SOUTH ARMAGH
Vol Michael McVerry Nov. 15th 1973
Vol Sean Boyle Feb. 1st 1975
Vol Francis Jordan June 4th 1975
Vol Sean Campbell Dec. 6th 1975
Vol James Lochrie Dec. 6th 1975
Vol Peter Cleary Apr. 15th 1976
Vol Seamus Harvey Jan. 16th 1977
Vol Peadar McElvanna June 9th 1979
Vol Brendan Burns Feb. 29th 1988
Vol Brendan Moley Feb. 29th 1988
SOUTH FERMANAGH
Vol Louis Leonard Dec. 15th 1972
Vol Seamus McElwain Apr. 26th 1986
SOUTH DOWN
Vol Peter McNulty Jan. 26th 1972
Vol James Carlin Aug. 26th 1972
Vol Martin Curran Aug. 26th 1972
Vol Leo O'Hanlon Feb. 10th 1973
Vol Francis Rice May 18th 1973
Vol Alphonsus Cunningham July 21st 1973
Vol Paul Magorrian Aug. 14th 1974
Vol Colum Marks Apr. 10th 1991
TYRONE
Vol Denis Quinn July 3rd 1972
Vol Hugh Heron Oct. 16th 1972
Vol John Patrick Mullan Oct. 16th 1972
Vol Eugene Devlin Dec. 27th 1972
Vol Kevin Kilpatrick May 13th 1973
Vol Sean Loughran June 25th 1973
Vol Patrick Carty June 25th 1973
Vol Gerard McGlynn Aug. 11th 1973
Vol Seamus Harvey Aug. 11th 1973
Vol Daniel McAnallen Aug. 16th 1973
Vol Patrick Quinn Aug. 16th 1973
Vol Desmond Morgan Nov. 26th 1973
Vol Jim McGinn Dec. 15th 1973
Vol Patrick McDonald Mar. 15th 1974
Vol Kevin Murray Mar. 15th 1974
Vol Eugene Martin May 13th 1974
Vol Sean McKearney May 13th 1974
Vol Paul Duffy Feb. 26th 1978
Vol Brian Campbell Dec. 4th 1983
Vol Colm McGirr Dec. 4th 1983
Vol William Price July 13th 1984
Vol Charlie Breslin Feb. 23rd 1985
Vol David Devine Feb. 23rd 1985
Vol Michael Devine Feb. 23rd 1985
Vol Declan Arthurs May 8th 1987
Vol Seamus Donnelly May 8th 1987
Vol Tony Gormley May 8th 1987
Vol Eugene Kelly May 8th 1987
Vol Paddy Kelly May 8th 1987
Vol Jim Lynagh May 8th 1987
Vol Padraig McKearney May 8th 1987
Vol Gerard O'Callaghan May 8th 1987
Vol Seamus Woods July 7th 1988
Vol Brian Mullin Aug. 30th 1988
Vol Gerard Harte Aug. 30th 1988
Vol Martin Harte Aug. 30th 1988
Vol James Joseph Connolly Feb. 6th 1989
Vol Liam Ryan Nov. 29th 1989
Vol Dessie Grew Oct. 9th 1990
Vol Martin McCaughey Oct. 9th 1990
Vol Noel Wilkinson Mar. 3rd 1991
Vol John Quinn Mar. 3rd 1991
Vol Malcolm Nugent Mar. 3rd 1991
Vol Dwayne O'Donnell Mar. 3rd 1991
Vol Tony Doris June 3rd 1991
Vol Lawrence McNally June 3rd 1991
Vol Pete Ryan June 3rd 1991
Vol Danny McCauley June 4th 1991
Vol Sean O'Farrell Feb. 16th 1992
Vol Kevin Barry O'Donnell Feb. 16th 1992
Vol Patrick Vincent Feb. 16th 1992
Vol Peter Clancy Feb. 16th 1992
SINN FEIN
Jim Murphy Apr. 24th 1974
Paul Best Feb. 18th 1976
Colm Mulgrew June 5th 1976
Noel Jenkinson (Leicester Prison) Oct. 9th 1976
Maire Drumm Oct. 28th 1976
Sean O Conaill (Parkhurst Prison) Oct. 1st 1977
Peter Corrigan Oct. 25th 1982
Jeff McKenna Nov. 8th 1982
Paddy Brady Nov. 16th 1984
John Davey Feb. 14th 1989
Tommy Casey Oct. 26th 1990
Fergal Caraher Dec. 30th 1990
Eddie Fullerton May 24th 1991
Padraig O Seanachain Aug. 12th 1991
Tommy Donaghy Aug. 16th 1991
Bernard O'Hagan Sept. 16th 1991
Pat McBride Feb. 4th 1992
Paddy Loughran Feb. 4th 1992
Sheena Campbell Oct. 16th 1992
Malachy Carey Dec 12th 1992
Peter Gallagher Mar. 23rd 1993
Alan Lundy May 1st 1993
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PRISON ADDRESSES IN IRELAND
CRUMLIN
H.M. Prison Belfast
Crumlin Road, Belfast
North Ireland BT14 6AE
MAGHABERRY
H.M. Prison Maghaberry
Old Mill Road
Ballinderry, county Antrim
North ireland BT28 2PT
DUBLIN
Mountjoy Prison
Dublin 7
Ireland
MOUNTJOY
Training Unit
Glengarriff PDE
NTH Circular Road
Dublin 7
Ireland
BELFAST CITY HOSPITAL
Tower Building
Lisburn Road
Belfast 9
North Ireland
HYDEBANK YOUNG OFFENDERS CENTRE
Hospital Road
Belfast 8
Northern Ireland
MAZE
H.M. Prison Maze
Lisburn, County Antrim
North Ireland BT24 5RP
MAGILLIGAN
H.M. Prison Magilligan
Magilligan Point
Limavady, County Derry
North Ireland
PORTLAOISE
Portlaoise Prison
Portlaoise, County Laoise
Ireland
LIMERICK
Limerick Prison
Limerick City
Co. Limerick
ARBOR HILL
Dublin
Ireland
MUSGRAVE PARK HOSPITAL
Ward 18
Stockmans Lane
Belfast BT11
North Ireland
DECEMBER BIRTHDAYS
ADAMS, SEAN
MAZE 12/22
BEGGS, ANTHONY
PORTLAOISE 12/24
BROWN, ROSENA
MAGHABERRY 12/9
CAMPBELL, BRENDAN
MAXE 12/21
CORBETT, KEVIN
MAZE 12/12
COSGROVE, THOMAS
MAZE 12/10
DAILY, MICHAEL
PORTLAOISE 12/11
DOHERTY, HUGH
FULL SUTTON 12/7
GAFFIN, SEAN
MAZE 12/12
JACKSON, ROBERT
MAZE 12/31
DOYLE, DANNY M.
MAZE 12/25
ECCLES, THOMAS
PORTLAOISE 12/23
ENNIS, SEAMUS
PORTLAOISE 12/14
GALLAGHER, OWEN
PORTLAOISE 12/4
GIBSON, NOEL
FRANKLAND 12/11
KELLY, MALACHY
MAZE 12/26
KINSELLA, LESLIE
PORTLAOISE 12/22
MADDEN, SEAMUS
MAZE 12/20
MAGUIRE, EAMONN
PORTLAOISE 12/14
MOLLOY, MARTIN
MAZE 12/4
MOORE, DERMOT
MAZE 12/1
MC CANN, HARRY P.
MAZE 12/12
MC DERMOTT, NIGEL
CRUMLIN 12/
MC DONNELL, GERARD
PARKHURST 12/19
MC FADDEN, JOHN PIUS
MAZE 12/19
MC GARRIGLE, JAMES
MAZE 12/11
MC KAY, DAVID
MAZE 12/25
MC KENNA, GERARD
MAZE 12/12
NICELL, DAMIAN
MAZE 12/24
O'BRIEN, JOHN
PORTLAOISE 12/4
O'DUIBHIR, LIAM
PARKHURST 12/14
QUIGG, RAYMOND
MAZE 12/27
VELLA, NATALINO
FRANKLAND 12/24
JANUARY BIRTHDAYS
BENNETT, MICHAEL
MAZE 1/18
BRADY, JOHN
MAZE 1/31
BROGAN, TOMMY
CRUMLIN 1/9
BULLOCK, MARTI
MAZE 1/20
BURKE, PASCHAL
PORTLAOISE 1/9
CAMPBELL, JAMES
MAZE 1/9
DEVINE, JOHN
MAZE 1/29
DOHERTY, JOSEPH P.
MAZE 1/20
GORMAN, MICHAEL
MAZE 1/1
HANRATTY, GERRY
MAZE 1/24
HARDY, LEONARD
PORTLAOISE 1/29
HEGARTY, NEILL
MAZE 1/11
HODGINS, GERARD
MAZE 1/30
FARRELL, MARK
PORTLAOISE 1/31
FOX, BERNARD
MAZE 1/27
GARLICK, NOEL
MAZE 1/5
KELLY6, ADRIAN
MAZE 1/18
KERR, ROBERT
MAZE 1/19
LLEWELLYN, BARRY
MAZE 1/9
LYNCH, PETER
PORTLAOISE 1/21
LYNCH, SEAN J.
MAZE 1/18
MAGEE, PAUL (DINGUS)
PARKHURST 1/20
MORRISON, DANNY
MAZE 1/10
MURRAY, KEVIN
MAZE 1/24
MC CANN, JAMES
MAZE 1/14
MC CAUGHLEY, KEVIN A.
MAZE 1/12
MC CONNELL, DAVID
MAZE 1/17
MC CORLEY, ROSALEEN
MAGHABERRY 1/14
MC COTTER, LEIAM
WHITEMOOR 1/2
MC CULLOUGH, BRIAN
MAZE 1/1
MC DEVITT, JOHN
MAGHABERRY 1/28
MC ERLEAN, JAMES
MAGHABERRY 1/3
MC GAHAN, BRONWYN
MAGHABERRY 1/24
MC GAHEY, WILLIAM
CRUMLIN 1/16
MC GIOLLA GUNNA, M.
MAZE 1/31
MC KEE, EUGENE
MAZE 1/23
MC KEOWN, MARTIN
MAZE 1/14
MC LARNON, THOMAS
MAZE 1/9
MC LAUGHLIN, JOHN
MAZE 1/15
MC QULLAN, JOSEPH
MAZE 1/14
MC SHANE, SEAMUS
TRNG. UNIT 1/10
ROONEY, FRANCIS
MAZE 1/24
TRAINOR, PATRICK J.
MAGHABERRY 1/11
PRISON ADDRESSES IN ENGLAND
ALBANY
H.M. Prison Albany
Newport, Isle of Wight
England PO305RS
ARMSLEY
H.M. Prison Armsley
Armley, Leeds
West Yorkshire LS1 22TJ1
England
BLUNDESTON
H.M. Prison Blundeston
Lowestoft, Suffolk
England
BRISTOL
H.M. Prison Bristol
Old Elvet
Cambridge Road
Durham DH1 3HU
England
BRIXTON
H.M. Prison Brixton
Jebb Avenue, Brixton
London, SW2 5XF
England
CANTERBURY
H.M. Prison Canterbury
Longport, Canterbury
Kent, CT1 1PH England
COOKHAM WOODS
H.M. Prion Cookham Woods
Rochester, Kent
England
LIVERPOOL
H.M. Prison Liverpool
68 Hornby Road
Liverpool L9 3DF
England
MAIDSTONE
H.M. Prison maidstone
County Road, Maidstone
Kent ME14 1UZ
England
DURHAM
H.M. Prison Durham
Old Elvet, Durham DH1 3HU
England
FRANKLAND
H.M. Prison Frankland
Finchale Avenue
Brasside, Low Newton
Durham DH1
England
FULL SUTTON
H.M. Prison Full Sutton
York YO4 1PS
England
GARTREE
H.M. Prison Gartree
Leicester Road
Market Harborough
Leicestershire LE16 7RP
England
HULL
H.M. Prison Hull
Hedon Rd., North Humberside
Yorkshire HU9 5LS
England
LEICESTER
H.M. Prison Leicester
Welford Road
Leicester LE2 7AJ
England
LINCOLN
H.M. Prison Lincoln
Greetwell Road
Lincoln LN2 4BD
England
LONG LARTIN
H.M. Prison Long lartin
south Littleton
Lower Evesham
Worcestershire, WR11 5TZ
England
WANDSWORTH
H.M. Prison Wandsorth
Heathfield Road
London SW18 3HSL
England
MANCHESTER
H.M. Prison Manchester
Southall Street
Manchester M60 9AM
England
PARKHURST
H.M. Prison Parkhurst
Newport
Isle of Wight PO3 05NX England
RISLEY
H.M. Prison Risley
Warrington Road
Risley, Cheshire WA3 6BD
England
STYAL
H.M. Prison Styal
Wilmslow
Cheshire SK9 4HR
England
BELMARSH
H.M. Prison Belmarsh
Western Way
Thames, Mead
London SE28
England
WAKEFIELD
H.M. Prison Wakefield
Love Lane, Wakefield
West Yorkshire WF2 9AJ
England
WHITEMOOR
H.M. Prison Whitemoor
Long Hill Road
March, Cambridgeshire PE1 50PR
England
WORMWOOD SCRUBS
P.O. Box 757
duncane Road
London S12 0AE
England
Old Cell
4 Strassenat
AM Schloosplatz 2
3100 Celle
Germany
NOVEMBER BIRTHDAYS
BOLGER, KEN
PORTLAOISE 11/13
CROSSAN, KARL
MAZE 11/25
DEVIN, GERRY
MAZE 11/24
HAMILTON, FRA
MAZE 11/23
HENNESSEY, MATT
PORTLAOISE 11/30
KEARNEY, GARY
MAZE 11/8
DOWD, BRENDAN
FRANKLAND 11/17
KELLY, SEAN
MAZE 11/7
KINSELLA, MICHAEL
CRUMLIN 11/1
KINSELLA, SEAN
PARKHURST 11/5
MASTERSON, OLIVER
MAZE 11/28
MULLIN, SEAMUS
MAZE 11/22
MURPHY, ALEX
MAZE 11/23
MURPHY, ROBERT
MAZE 11/9
MURRAY, PATRICK
MC CANN, KEVIN
CRUMLIN 11/15
MC CARTNEY, RAYMOND
MAZE 11/29
MC CAULEY, PEARSE
PORTLAOISE 11/9
MC COOL, ROY
MAZE 11/2
MC GURK, AIDAN
PORTLAOISE 11/19
MC KENNA, STEPHEN
MAZE 11/1
MC KIERNAN, CHARLIE
MAZE 11/6
MC LAUGHLIN, MARTIN
MAZE 11/7
MC SHANE, JIMMY
MAZE 11/11
NORNEY, PAUL
FRANKLAND 11/11
O'NEILL, JOE M.
MAZE 11/29
ROGAN, MARTIN
MAZE 11/9
WALKER, JIM
MAZE 11/15
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1252.57 | Hippocrit | AYOV20::MRENNISON | Waiting for hell to freeze over | Tue Aug 30 1994 08:29 | 10 |
| It's ironic, isn't it? If anyone else was to publish and distribute
alist of suspected or known Republicans itwould be
COLLUSION AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
When Mark does it, it's a ROLL OF HONOUR.
Do I smell a rat ?
|
1252.58 | | SUBURB::FRENCHS | Semper in excernere | Tue Aug 30 1994 09:13 | 11 |
| Mr Rennison,
What you have to remember is that these poor innocent souls are
political prisoners, locked up for nothing more than their beliefs.
At least, whilst in prison the nasty colluding security forces can't
get them.
YET :-)
|
1252.59 | TWO MORE OF BALLYMURPHY SEVEN GO FREE | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Tue Sep 20 1994 12:16 | 81 |
| TWO MORE OF BALLYMURPHY SEVEN GO FREE
After more than three years on remand, another two of the Ballymurphy
Seven walked free from Belfast Crown Court when their alleged confessions to an
IRA attack were thrown out by trial judge Justice Kerr.
Two other were acquitted earlier this year after their alleged
admissions were also rejected. leaving three others still on trial one year
and three days after the case first opened.
Mr. Stephen Macmullan (24). of New Barnsley Crescent, and Mr. Daniel
Anthony Pettigrew (19), of Divismore Park, who were released, said nothing as
they left the court. They were freed after Justice Kerr said there were
significant questions over the interrogation of the two, although he refused
to rule that they had been subjected to ill-treatment or the threat of
violence.
Earlier, they had hugged and shaken hands with the remaining three
defendants, Mr. Hugh McLaughlin (21), Mr. Anthony Garland (20), and Mr.
Michael Beck (21), who are still accused of attempting to kill troopers during
a coffee-jar device attack on Belfast's Springfield Road on August 2nd, 1991.
Dealing with Mr. McMullan, Kerr said that the "linchpin" of his case rested on
the evidence of a doctor as to his vulnerability during his "interviews."
Kerr said the doctor's evidence had "raised a significant question of
the accused's ability to present a normal defense to the interviewing
technique [sic] to which he was subjected." The judge added, however, that he
"hastened to reiterate, to make clear, that this conclusion is in no way
intended to be critical of the manner of the interviewing of the accused."
In regard to Mr. Pettigrew, Justice Kerr said that although the
accused's allegations of ill-treatment were "inherently plausible," he had no
reservation in rejecting them; nevertheless, a question mark still remained
over the taking of his alleged confession.
"I have not been brought to the point of conviction in his case that
the central allegation to the circumstances in which the alleged confession
were made are untrue. I have very grave reservation as to the truth of the
claims made by Pettigrew.
"But I cannot dismiss, with the requisite degree of confidence and
assurance, that [sic] would allow me to rule that his confessions are
admissible," added Kerr.
The case of the Ballymurphy Seven began with an IRA coffee-jar device
attack on British troopers in August 1991. The defendants were aged between 17
and 22 when first arrested in connection with the attack. Some have been in
custody since 1991. Two were arrested in April 1992.
Each of the seven faced charges of attempted murder arising from the
attack. The accused men poin t out, however, that they signed confessions
under duress at the RUC's holding center at Castlereagh, east Belfast.
The defendants have said that they were subjected to psychological and
emotional pressures and/or physical abuse while being detained for up to six
days at Castlereagh.
The first of the seven, Mr. Brendan Robert McCrory, was freed in
February following a prosecution application "to avoid unfairness and in the
interests of justice." The prosecution told the court that it no longer
accepted Mr. McCrory's confession.
The second defendant to be released was Mr. Ciaran McAllister. The
prosecution again told the court that it would "not now seek to rely on the
admissions made by McAllister."
The release of two more defendants, Mr. Stephen McMullan and Mr.
Daniel Anthony Pettigrew, after over three years on remand, followed a similar
pattern. They were freed after Mr. Kerr said there were significant questions
over the interrogation of the two, although he rejected allegations of
ill-treatment.
The other three defendants, Mr. Hugh McLaughlin, Mr. Anthony Garland
and Mr. Michael Beck, remain on trial, three years after the attack on the
British troopers and a year and three days after the case opened.
The case has attracted the attention of Amnesty International,
Helsinki Watch and the North's Committee for the Administration of Justice.
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1252.60 | Updated political prisoner and prisoners of war list | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Mon Oct 03 1994 14:26 | 1160 |
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IRISH REPUBLICAN POLITICAL PRISONERS
AND PRISONERS-OF-WAR
In addition to the sentenced republican prisoners listed here,
there are 150 remand prisoners. Full details on these and other
prisoners, and on prison issues and campaigns, can be obtained
from the Sinn Fein POW Department, 51/55 Falls Road, Belfast
(phone 249975) and 5 Blessington Street, Dublin (phone 308738)
People are encouraged to write and send cards to the prisoners.
**********
List provided by:
'The Writing Cmpaign'
4110 Farmdale Road
Philadelphia, PA 19154 USA
tel (215-637-3728)
Mike Duffy * Mary Cruz * Patricia Gatins
**********
included the numbers following prisoners names when writing
**********
Maghaberry Prison
Old Ballinderry Road,
Lisburn, County Antrim
name home area sentence
Shauneen Baker Ardoyne 10yrs
Rosena Brown Andersontown remand
Theresa Browne Poleglass 5yrs
Paula Burns Short Strand 8yrs
Mary Ellen Campbell New Lodge 6yrs
Alish Carroll Armagh 15yrs
Ann Cavanagh Derry 10yrs
Una Corr Poleglass remand
Patricia Deane Falls 10yrs
Geraldine Ferrity Tyrone life
Mary McArdle Turf Lodge life
Rosaleen McCorley Andersontown 22yrs
Bronwyn McGahan Tyrone 7yrs
Ann Marie McKee Lenadoon 5yrs
Agnes Marie McManus Andersonstown remand
Anna Moore Derry life
Louise Nash Derry City 5yrs
Karen Quinn Twinbrook 9yrs
Pat Semple-Moore Tyrone life
Frances Symington Poleglass remand
Marie Wright Andersontown 24yrs
**********
Male Special Category, Maghaberry
name home area sentence
Barbour, John J. Derry City
Francis Gillespie Omagh 12yrs
Gerry Lafferty Derry City 20yrs
Chris Montgomery Markets-A7916
Patrick Mullan Tyrone life
Ronnie McCartney Belfast life
John McDivitt Derry City-A491 life
James McErlean Toome-A550 life
Thomas McGrath Coalisland life
Patrick Mullin Tyrone life
Kevin O'Neill Coalisland life
Owen Roe O'Neill Dungannon-A499 life
Dominic Nicholl Tyrone-A1830 life
Patrick Trainor Crossmaglen life
Derek Shotters Derry City life
**********
Limerick Prison
Musgrave Street
Limerick City
Pamela Kane Dublin 10yrs
**********
H-Blocks
Long Kesh,
Lisburn, County Antrim
name home area sentence
Adams, Sean St. James 14rs
Agnew, Kieran Ahoghill 10yrs
Barkley, Danny New Barnsley 10yrs
Bateson, Peter Magherafelt 25yrs
Bennett, Michael Lenadoon 24yrs
Blakely, Jim Derry 9yrs
Bonnar, Stephen Strabane 7yrs
Brady, John Strabane life
Brannigan, Brendan Castlwellan 15yrs
Brannigan, Tim Beechmount 8yrs
Breslin, Gary Strabane 18yrs
Breslin, Michael Derry 25yrs
Browne, Donal Derry life
Bullock, Martin Tyrone life
Butler, Gerard Ballycastle-A7018 life
Caldwell, Danny Poleglass-A4299 10yrs
Campbell, Bernard Coalisland-A536 life
Campbell, Brendan Tyrone-A3494 20yrs
Campbell, James Tyrone 14yrs
Campbell, Kevin Derry 16yrs
Campbell, Sean New Lodge-A9392 14yrs
Carroll, Gregory Armagh 22yrs
Cartmill, Tony Armagh-A4474 life
Chambers, Robert Beechmount life
Clarke, Gary W. Ballymurphy-A6859 14yrs
Clinton, Terrence Ormeau Raod-A7883 14yrs
Collins, Mickey New Lodge 14yrs
Collins, Seamus Clonard 14yrs
Conlon, Steven Armagh-A1721 20yrs
Connolly, Andy Strabane 7yrs
Connolly, Sean Ballymurphy-A8525 20yrs
Connolly, Tarlac Armagh-A5526 life
Corbett, Kevin Ardoyne 12yrs
Corbett, Peter Ardoyne 17yrs
Corry, Francis Portadown-A262 life
Cosgrove, Kevin St James-A8709 21yrs
Cosgrove, Noel Paul Beechmount-A4297 14yrs
Cosgrove, Thomas Ardoyne-A1663 16yrs
Cosgrove, Thomas Beechmount 22yrs
Coyle, Dermot Tyrone-A4213 10yrs
Coyle, Kieran A Tyrone 17yrs
Crane, Jim Ballymurphy-A1018 20yrs
Creany, Martin Portadown-A2046 12yrs
Cross, Brian Derry City-A1848 7yrs
Crossan, Declan Strabane-A351 20yrs
Crossan, Karl Derry City-A8709 20yrs
Culbert, Michael Andersonstown life
Cunningham, Peter Short Strand-A383 20yrs
Devenny, Patrick Short Strand-A832 29yrs
Devine, John (Sleepy) Clonard life
Devine, Gerry Ballymurphy-A6065 8yrs
Devine, John Strabane 18yrs
Doherty, David Derry-A2983 10yrs
Doherty, Jimmy Derry-A1002 life
Doherty, John Ardoyne-A549 15yrs
Doherty, John Derry-A1478 life
Doherty, Liam J New Lodge-A2433 5yrs
Doherty, Michael Ardoyne-A1644 16yrs
Doherty, Joseph P. New Lodge-A8736 life
Doherty, Seamus Derry 20yrs
Doherty, William Derry City-A501 life
Donaghy, Brendan Galbally-A458 life
Donnelly, Jim Ballymurphy-A4388 22yrs
Doyle, Alphonses Derry-A2995 6yrs
Doyle, Daniel Martin Derry-A6166 8yrs
Duff, Michael Beechmount-A4674 14yrs
Duffin, James J. Tyrone-A5280 life
Duffy, Paul Lurgan 15yrs
Duffy, Paul Pius Andersonstown-A7587 10yrs
Duffy, Sean Benburg-A5481 17yrs
Farrell, Declan Newry-A2266 12yrs
Ferguson, Bredan Newry-A1193 7yrs
Ferguson, Liam Newry-A2271 10yrs
Fitzsimmons, Bobby Short Strand-A7553 20yrs
Fitzsimmons, Henry Whiterock-A6314 13yrs
Fleming, Leo Derry-A1783 9yrs
Flood, Paddy Ardoyne-A4795 12yrs
Flynn, Brendan Andersontown-A2106 19yrs
Forbes, Art Strabane-A1713 18yrs
Fox, Bernard St. James-A2105 22yrs
Fox, Patrick Tyrone 12yrs
Gallagher, Andy Strabane-A1111 20yrs
Gallagher, Barney Omagh 17yrs
Gallagher, Jimmy Strabane-A618 20yrs
Gallagher, Willie Strabane-A1121 20yrs
Garlick, Noel Newry-A661 20yrs
Gervin, Martin Coalisland life
Gillen, Brian Antrim-A1215 17yrs
Gillen, Tony Ballymurphy A-3635 14yrs
Gilmartin, Eugene Twinbrook-A303 life
Gilmore, Conor Ardoyne-A4161 20yrs
Gilmore, Johnny Derry City-A1968 16yrs
Glennon, Davy Ardoyne-A1288 18yrs
Gorman, Michael New Lodge-A375 life
Gormley, Brian Turf Lodge-A2325 7yrs
Grafinn, Sean Antrim-A5863 14yrs
Green, Leo Lurgan-A194 life
Grimes, Patrick Carrickmore-A570 life
Hagans, George Ballymurphy-A1266 12yrs
Hamilton, Fra Beechmount 16yrs
Hanratty, Gerry Andersonstown-A9606 8yrs
Harper, William Kikeel-A238 life
Healy, Noel P. Andersonstown-A6779 14yrs
Heaney, John Anthony Armagh-A3319 10yrs
Hegarty, Neill Derry-A1717 n/a
Henry, Brian Ardoyne-A4792 6yrs
Hill, Sean Ballycastle-A7017 16yrs
Hill, Stephen Ballycastle-A7019 10yrs
Hillen, Michael Newry-A5335 22yrs
Hillen, Michael Newry-A159 15yrs
Hillis, Gerard Paul New Barnsly 4yrs
Hodgins, Gerard Andersontown-A4298 12yrs
Hollywood, Tarlach Newry-A2267 n/a
Hughes, Danny New Lodge-A2060 10yrs
Hughes, Kevin Ballymurphy 10yrs
Hunter, Brian A Bone-A1057 life
Irvine, Louis Twinbrook-A556 14yrs
Jackson, Rab Andersonstown-A1017 20yrs
Johnston, Patrick New Lodge 3yrs
Jordan, Dave Tyrone 9yrs
Kane, Pat Andersonstown life
Kearney, Gary Clonard-A420 18yrs
Kelly, Adrian Derry City-A951 life
Kelly, Malachy Newry-A2272 12yrs
Kelly, Martin Derry City-A505 life
Kelly, Sean St. James-A2616 life
Kelly, Sean Antrim-A5862 24yrs
Kerr, Robert St. James-A207 life
Llewellyn, Barry Downpatrick-A1062 life
Louge, Eammon Strabane-A9059 3yrs
Loughlin, Thomas New Lodge-A873 life
Loughran, Paul Beechmount-A5356 9yrs
Lynch, Peter Andersonstown-A7715 24yrs
Lynch, Sean James Fermanagh-A586 25yrs
Madden, Desmond Beechmount-A8538 8yrs
Madden, Seamus Toome-A5882 24yrs
Magee, Gerard Antrim 23yrs
Magee, Kiernan Andersonstown-A6010 12yrs
Magee, Sam Newry 4yrs
Magorrian, Colm Castlewellan-A2157 10yrs
Maguire, Feargal Andersonstown-A2083 12yrs
Maguire, Gerry J Fermanagh-A1277 15yrs
Maguire, Harry Andersonstown-A1840 25yrs
Maguire, Thomas Ligioniel-A1056 18yrs
Mahon, Robert New Lodge-A9191 12yrs
Mailey, Stephen Ardoyne-A4794 12yrs
Mallon, Brian Tyrone-A1768 11yrs
Manning, Phillip Clonard life
Markey, Peter Warrenpoint-A1091 life
Marley, Emmanuel Ardoyne-A1757 20yrs
Martin, James Lenadoon-A4322 12yrs
Masterson, Oliver Andersonstown-A7716 24yrs
Mathers, Sean Newry 21yrs
Mead, Brendan St. James-A461 life
Meehan, Martin Jr. Ardoyne-A941 12yrs
Meehan, Martin, Sr. Ardoyne-A4718 15yrs
Meehan, Pat Derry City-A2118 20yrs
Mervyn, George Beechmount-A9196 14yrs
Miller, Anton Derry City-5184 24yrs
Moen, Declan Monaghan-A4163 15yrs
Molly, Martin Strabane-A619 26yrs
Molly, Martin Magerha-2984 10yrs
Molloy, Tommy Andersonstown-A122 life
Montgomery, Peter Markets 14yrs
Montgomery, Robin Ardoyne-A1015 20yrs
Montgomery, Sean Ardoyne-A802 10yrs
Moore, Dermott Tyrone life
Moore, Eamon Derry City-A597 life
Morgan, James K St. James-A7472 14yrs
Morgan, Leo A. New Lodge-A6242 6yrs
Morrison, Danny Beechmount-A4200 8yrs
Mulgrew, Mark Cookstown-2099 15yrs
Mulligan, Padraig Donagh-A7586 16yrs
Mullin, Seamus Co. Derry-A708 life
Mulvenna, Brendan Ballymurphy-A146 18yrs
Murdoch, Richard New Lodge-A616 6yrs
Murphy, Alex Andersonstown-A1839 LIFE
Murphy, Declan Camlough-A4616 22yrs
Murphy, Myles Falls-A2440 25yrs
Murphy, Robert Turf Lodge-A390 life
Murray, Barry Lisnaskea-A2089 18yrs
Murray, Brian Armagh-A2086 5yrs
Murray, Harry Lenadoon-A381 30yrs
Murray, John A. Andersonstown-A4297 8yrs
Murray, Kevin Strabane-A1832 18yrs
Murray, Kieran Lurgan-A722 life
McAleese, Pearse Portglenone-A2073 10yrs
McAllister, Rab Ormeau-A137 life
McAllister, Tom Lower Falls-A4184 16yrs
McCabe, Brendan Newry-A-1174 8yrs
McCafferty, Jimmy A. Strabane-A3877 5yrs
McCallan, Rory Ardoyne 27yrs
McCallion, Kevin Strabane-A620 16yrs
McCann, Harry P. Randalstown-A6269 15yrs
McCann, Jim Andersonstown-A515 30yrs
McCartan, Ronan Tyrone-A4153 12yrs
McCarthy, Ruari Twinnbrook-A-5017 10yrs
McCarthy, Henry Armagh-A5527 life
McCartney, Raymond Derry City-A129 25yrs
McCaughley, Kevin Andersonstown-A5160 7yrs
McClafferty, Edward Ardoyne 14yrs
McClelland, Eddie Armagh-A154 life
McClenaghan, Brendan Ardoyne-A1049 life
McConkey, Sean Divis-A114 life
McConnell, David Poleglass-A1907 9yrs
McCool, Roy Derry City-A3616 20yrs
McCorry, Liam Andersonstown
McCorry, Michael New Lodge 9yrs
McCotter, Patrick Ardoyne-A418 20yrs
McCotter, Sean Andersonstown-A2084 12yrs
McCready, Paul B. Strabane-A7326 12yrs
McCrory, Alec Andersonstown-A391 12yrs
McCrory, Gerard Ballymurphy-A9701 8yrs
McCrossan, Colman Strabane-A2555 14yrs
McCrystal, Tommy Omagh-A57 life
McCullough, Brian Andersontown-A2111 life
McDermott, Paul Derry City 6yrs
McDonald, Vivian Ballygawley n/a
McElkearney, Martin Divis-A723 life
McEvoy, Paul New Lodge 16yrs
McFadden, Gerard Derry City-A5184 17yrs
McFadden, Jimmy Derry City 4yrs
McFadden, John Pius Falls-A4414 15yrs
McFarlane, Brendan Ardoyne-A742 25yrs
McGarrigle, Edward Strabane-A2511 9yrs
McGarrigle, Gerard Strabane-A4360 14yrs
McGarrigle, James New Lodge-A1865 12yrs
McGennity, Pat Newry-A2156 17yrs
McGettigan, Paul J. Strabane-A1733 13yrs
McGilloway, Patrick Derry City-A2101 18yrs
Mac Giolla, Gunna M. Andersontown-A6064 14yrs
McGrath, Jimmy Andersontown-A975 16yrs
McGuinness, Kiernan Andersontown-A4183 7yrs
McGurk, Patrick Dungannon life
McHugh, Michael Andersonstown-A5606 14yrs
McHugh, Noel Lisnaskea-A7601 life
McKay, David Twinbrook-A1690 10yrs
McKay, Garry Tyrone 10yrs
McKay, Noel Falls-A5312 18yrs
McKee, Eugene Andersonstown-A4183 20yrs
McKee, Gerard Turf Lodge-A977 12yrs
McKee, Michael Ballymurphy 20yrs
McKenna, Gerard Lower Falls-A3421 7yrs
McKenna, John Lower Falls-A-870 n/a
McKenna, Stephen Fermanagh-A6358 12yrs
McKeown, Barry Newry-A651 17yrs
McKeown, Hugh Newry-A648 20yrs
McKeown, Martin Newry-A4964 5yrs
McKiernan, Charlie Markets-A1136 life
McKinley, Oliver Falls-A4734 25yrs
McKinley, Sean Divis-A601 life
McKinney, John New Lodge-A2037 18yrs
McLarnon, Brian Tyrone 18yrs
McLarnon, Paul Ardoyne-A4477 7yrs
McLarnon, Thomas Ligoniel-A2029 10yrs
McLaughlin, Ciaran Co. Derry-A258 13yrs
McLaughlin, John Derry City-A4113 14yrs
McLaughlin, John G. New Barnsley-A403 12yrs
McLaughlin, Martin P Derry-A615 life
McLaughlin, Sean Twinbrook-A611 life
McLoughlin, Patrick New Barnsley-A7875 7yrs
McMahon, John G Co. Derry 12yrs
McMahon, Kevin Poleglass-A2109 18yrs
McMahon, Patrick Falls-A8540 12yrs
McMonagle, Hugh Derry City-A583 14yrs
McMonagle, Sean M. Derry City-A5183 17yrs
McNally, Kevin Keady-A812 life
McNally, Louis Henry Dungannon-A2154 22yrs
McNulty, Samuel J. Strabane-A2901 12yrs
McParland, Joseph Newry 10yrs
McQuillian, Joe Beechmount-A1004 16yrs
McShane, Jimmy St. James-A4186 7yrs
McShane, Kevin Beechmount-A3561 16yrs
McSorley, Jim New Lodge 7yrs
McStravick, Steven Markets-A7905 14yrs
McStravogh, Hugh Coalisland-A1750 6yrs
McVeigh, Tom Andersonstown-A4185 16yrs
McVeigh, James Falls-A1127 24&7yrs
Nash, Noel Derry City-A1292 12yrs
Neeson, Brendan Tyrone-A1766 14yrs
Nelson, Martin Fermanagh-A4608 18yrs
Nesbitt, Arthur Turf Lodge 12yrs
Nicell, Damien Derry City-A1956 life
Nolan, Eamonn (Jimmy) Turf Lodge-A856 life
Nolan, Phillip Derry City-A1356 16yrs
Norney, John New Barnsley-A4182 12yrs
O'Carroll, Jim Andersonstown-A4303 10yrs
O'Connor, Eddie Keady-A826 life
O'Dowd, Patrick Lurgan-A768 25yrs
O'Dwyer, Thomas Beechmount-A1622 22yrs
O'Hagen, Felim Lurgan-A733 life
O'Hagan, John New Lodge-A733 12yrs
O'Hagan, Sean F. Dungannon-A2149 23yrs
O'Neill, Anthony St. James-A8390 20yrs
O'Neill, George Co. Derry-A1359 6yrs
O'Neill Gerard Lower Falls 12yrs
O'Neill, James Antrim-A679 14yrs
O'Neill, Joe M Turf Lodge-A2094 10yrs
O'Neill, Martin Strabane-A613 20yrs
O'Neill, Martin Ligoniel-A2027 12yrs
O'Neill, Martin Derry City-A4765 n/a
O'Neill, Raymond Antrim 14yrs
O'Neill, Michael Short Strand 8yrs
O'Neill, Phillip Strabane-A7340 6yrs
O'Neill, Raymonnd Antrim-A2153 14yrs
O'Reilly, Jim Falls-A679 17yrs
Patterson, Neill Strabane life
Owens, Anthony Falls-A7876 7yrs
Pattersonn, Neill Strabane-A1154 life
Pickering, John Andersonstown-A772 life
Quigg, Raymond Derry 15yrs
Quinn, Dermot Tyrone-A5456 25yrs
Quinn, Frankie Tyrone 15yrs
Rogan, Martin Belfast n/a
Rodgers, William R. Derry City 10yrs
Rooney, Danny St. James-A7374 16yrs
Rooney, Francis New Barnsley-A8539 12yrs
Roulston, Michael Strabane-A6990 18yrs
Russell, Joe Downpatrick-A1283 6yrs
Scott, Eamonn Poleglass-A448 life
Sheehan, Pat St. James's-A1871 24yrs
Storey, Bobby Andersonstown 18yrs
Thompson, Jimmy P New Lodge-A4658 12yrs
Thompson, Noel J. Andersonstown-A7734 12yrs
Timmons, Michael Twinbrook-A4530 life
Vallely, Michael Ballymurphy-A1225 12yrs
Walker, Jim Derry-A2102 12yrs
Walker, John J. Ballymurphy 7yrs
Walsh, Christopher Beechmount-A7341 14yrs
Walsh, Noel Co. Derry-A1292 n/a
Walsh, Sid Poleglass-A2107 22yrs
Ward, Patrick Down 10yrs
Weir, Albert Andersonstown-A1490 15yrs
Wilson, Padraig Andersonstown-A3881 24yrs
Wylie, Aidan Stewartstown-A7097 7yrs
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Portlaoise Prison
Portlaoise,
County Laois
name area sentence
Adams, Dominic Dublin 10yrs
Adams, Garry Dublin 10yrs
Beggs, Anthony Dublin 10yrs
Bolger, Kenneth Dublin 8yrs
Breen, Sean Limerick 8yrs
Burke, Michael Cork 12yrs
Burke, Paschal Dublin 6yrs
Burns, Gerard Dublin 6yrs
Carmody, John Limerick 10yrs
Carroll, Gregory Armagh 22yrs
Carroll, Niall Armagh 5yrs
Comerford, Seamus Laois 3yrs
Crawley, John Fermanagh 13yrs
Daly, Michael Cork 4yrs
Douglass, David Dublin 15yrs
Duffy, Patrick Dundalk LIFE
Eccles, Tommy Dundalk 40yrs
Ennis, Seamus Dublin 8yrs
Farrell, Mark Dublin 10yrs
Ferris, Mark Kerry 13yrs
Flanagan, Pat Laois 10yrs
Foley, Aran Dublin 8yrs
Fox, Jimmy Dundalk 7yrs
Gallagher, Owen Strabane 4yrs
Grew, Oliver Tyrone 6yrs
Griffin, Patrick J Keady 9yrs
Hamilton, Gerry Donegal 7yrs
Hardy, Leonard Dublin 5yrs
Hennessey, Matt Dublin 10yrs
Hughes, Jimmy Tyrone 12yrs
Kearney, Dermot Dublin
Kearns, Gerard Dublin 12yrs
Kelahan, John Dublin 7yrs
Kenna, Brian Dublin 10yrs
Kinsella, Leslie Dublin 9yrs
Lavin, Patrick Dublin 10yrs
Lynch, Peter Dublin 17yrs
Maguire, Eamonn Dublin awaiting extradition
McCauley, Pearse Strabane remand
McGurk, Aidan Tyrone 5yrs
McPhilips, Pat Dundalk 40yrs
McShane, Brian Dundalk 40yrs
Nolan, Eammon Waterford life
O Cleirigh, Eammon Dublin 8yrs
O'Connell, Aaron Cork life
O'Dwyer, Ciaran Limerick 10yrs
O'Neill, Connor Tyrone 12yrs
O'Neill, Declan Dublin 8yrs
O'Reilly, Mick Dublin 12yrs
O Treasaigh, Maitiu Dublin 8yrs
Phelan, Liam Kilkenny 5yrs
Parker, Joe Ardoyne 3yrs
Quinlivan, Nessan Limerick Remand
Rogers, Peter Wexford 40yrs
Sheey, Gerard Limerick 5yrs
Sloan, Eugene Dublin 10yrs
**********
Magilligan
Point Road
Limavady,
Co. Derry
Doherty, John Derry City 5yrs
Gorman, Paul Derry City
Hughes, Gerard Andersonstown-A5426 4yrs
Kane, Brendan Tyrone-A3866 4yrs
McCaughey, Peter Tyrone 4yrs
McDonnell, Edward Ballymurphy 5yrs
McKenna, Diarmuid Andersonstown 4yrs
O'Neill, Andrew F. Turf Lodge 3yrs
Waudby, Steven Anntrim-A4867 4yrs
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English Prisons
name sentence prison area
Martina Anderson life Durham Derry-D25134
Eddie Butler life Full Sutton Limerick
338637
Hugh Doherty life Albany Donegal-
338636
Vince Donnelly life Whitemoor Tyrone
274064
Brendan Dowd life Frankland Kerry
758662
Harry Duggan life Frankland Clare
338638
Noel Gibson life Parkhurst Laois
879225
Paul Kavanagh life Full Sutton Belfast
L31888
Sean Kinsella life Parkhurst Monaghan
758661
Damien McComb 30yrs Full Sutton Dundalk
MT248L
Liam McCotter 17yrs Leicester Belfast
LB83693
Gerry McDonnell life Leicester Belfast
B25882
Patrick Magee life Full Sutton Belfast-
B75881
Paul (Dingus) Magee 25yrs Parkhurst Tralee-
BR3738
Michael McKenna (Joe) 16yrs Frankland Downpat.
L46486
Patrick McLaughlin life Parkhurst Derry City
L43470
Patrick McLaughlin 20yrs Whitemoor Belfast
LB83694
Martin McNulty 4yrs Hydebank Tyrone
A6492
Stephen Nordone life Gartree Louth
758663
Paul Norney life Long Lartin Belfast
863532
Joe O'Connell life Full Sutton Clare
338635
Liam O'Duibhir 30yrs Parkhurst Dublin
MT2485
Ella O'Dwyer life Durham Tipperary
D25135
Tommy Quigley life Full Sutton Belfast
B69204
Liam Quinn life Albany San Francisco
(USA)
L49930
Peter Sherry life Parkhurst Tyrone
B75880
Natalino Vella 15yrs Frankland Dublin
B71644
HM Prison Gartree HM Prison Wandsworth
Market Harborough Heathfield Road
Leicester LE16 7RP London SW18 3HSL
HM Prison Wormwood Scrubs HM Prison Wakefield
Duncane Road Love Lane
London S12 OAE Wakefield, West Yorkshire
HM Prison Maidstone HM Prison Hull
County Road Hedon Road
Maidstone Hull
Kent ME14 1UZ
HM Prison Long Lartin HM Prison Frankland
Lower Evesham Brasside
Worcestershire Durham
HM Prison Full Sutton HM Prison Parkhurst
York Newport
YO3 1PS Isle of Wright
HM Prison Leicester HM Prison Brixton
Welford Road Jebb Avenue
Leicester LE2 7AJ London SW2 5XF
HM Prison Bristol
Cambridge Road
Bristol
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1252.61 | Take them down. | YELBUS::DSMITH | It's over the line... | Tue Oct 04 1994 04:02 | 13 |
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Of course, the British Government should immediately free all these
people from jail. They are after all "political prisoners and prisoners
of war", not people who have maimed and slaughtered hundreds of
innocent civilians over the past 20 years or so. Men, woman, little
children were murdered by these so called "soldiers". Let them serve
the full sentence.
Danny.
Now sit back and wait for the usual rantings of a certain well known
"knowledgeable and unbiased" American.
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1252.62 | Interference | HLDE01::STRETCH_M | | Tue Oct 04 1994 09:24 | 35 |
| re 1252.61
Here, are you saying Hooligan is an american?. I didn't realise.
So then, what's his problem? Why is he so bothered about
what happens between Britain and Ireland?
Don't tell me. Let me guess. He thinks that the Brits really want to
be in N.I. because its got so much going for it.
I've got to say this American interference is really beggining to
irritate me.
The other day I heard a piece on the BBC world service
(okay Brit bias, but) about an Irish-American group, based in Boston,
who claimed to supply cash to the IRA. So what, you may say. Anyway
the leaders went on about Ireland as if it was still in the 17th
Century. It was pathetic and frightening, because these people really
believe that the Brits have an invasion force in Ireland. They didn't
seem to distinguish between north and south either.
I really do get the impression from many Americans that they think that
Ireland is floating on Guinness and that In Scotland everyone is running
around in Kilts and claiming to be members of Clans. And, that the
English are all Red coats.
I think americans should concentrate on matters closer to their own home,
like the economic sanctions on Cuba for instance.
By the way, the BBC world service news on the same day claimed that
Al Gore took full credit for the ceasefire in N.I. Another Nobel
nominee - I don't think so.
rgds
Mark
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1252.63 | Guinness is good for you | TALLIS::DARCY | Alpha Migration Tools | Tue Oct 04 1994 11:28 | 23 |
| Mark,
The Clinton administration has helped along the ceasefire a bit,
though more credit should go to the 4 congressmen, especially Bruce
Morrisson from Connecticut. I would have preferred that Clinton met Adams,
but even a phone call from Gore at this point in time is welcomed
to keep Adams in the mainstream and continue the peace process.
Also, there are many groups raising money for the IRA and loyalist
paramilitary groups right in London. The amount of money raised
for the IRA in Boston is minor and has been declining over the years.
Instead of bemoaning American interference (which one could easily
argue is just as bad as British interference in Ireland) how about
working together and finding new ways to promote and continue the
peace process? i.e. lobbying for more integrated schooling and
housing in NI, more economic incentives and financial aid for NI,
reducing the military presence in NI, integrating the police force,
etc... We've got to look at peace in whatever form it takes as a
win-win situation for all parties, and not us against them.
regards,
george
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1252.64 | | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Tue Oct 04 1994 12:02 | 12 |
|
re. .61
Danny,
The British government seems to have little problem
with freeing British soldiers who have murdered
unarmed civilians in north east Ireland. Why would
they have a problem freeing men and women convicted
in jury-less trials, with forced confessions and
faked evidence?
Mark
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1252.65 | | FUTURS::GIDDINGS_D | Technoburnout | Tue Oct 04 1994 13:21 | 7 |
| > peace process? i.e. lobbying for more integrated schooling and
I seem to remember that when integrated schooling was being mooted in the
1960s the main opponent was the Catholic church. When the IRA campaign
started up that put the lid on it.
Dave
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1252.66 | | TALLIS::DARCY | Alpha Migration Tools | Tue Oct 04 1994 13:58 | 4 |
| Yes you're right Dave, we need to lobby both the government and
the Catholic Church to accept integrated schooling. Each year
there are more integrated schools starting up in NI. It can only
help the process of reconciliation.
|
1252.67 | | METSYS::THOMPSON | | Tue Oct 04 1994 14:26 | 32 |
|
re: .62
> The other day I heard a piece on the BBC world service
> (okay Brit bias, but) about an Irish-American group, based in Boston,
> who claimed to supply cash to the IRA. So what, you may say. Anyway
> the leaders went on about Ireland as if it was still in the 17th
> Century. It was pathetic and frightening, because these people really
The term "Irish-American" is a bit misleading, I think it gets over-used
and abused. In general the term "Americans of Irish Descent" is more
appropriate term - it covers all Americans that claim Irish ancestry.
"Irish-American" really refers to a smaller grouping of people, they
publicly acknowledge their status (often very visually via the symbol of
the crossed American and Irish Flags).
The real "Irish-Americans" almost regard themselves as being in Exile.
They are very well informed about affairs in Ireland and do support a
United Ireland.
>> They didn't seem to distinguish between north and south either.
That's quite deliberate, hence the term "North-East Ireland" that we
often see in this conference.
> I think americans should concentrate on matters closer to their own home,
> like the economic sanctions on Cuba for instance.
Most Americans do but the Irish-Americans form a unique group.
M
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1252.68 | BALLYMURPHY SEVEN MAN SPEAKS OUT FOR FRIENDS | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Thu Oct 06 1994 12:36 | 86 |
|
from AP/RN (29 Sept.)
BALLYMURPHY SEVEN MAN SPEAKS OUT FOR FRIENDS
by Liam O Coileain
One of two recently released Belfast miscarriage of justice victims has been
in Dublin this week campaigning to secure the release of three friends who
remain in prison.
Danny Pettigrew, one of the group of men known collectively as the Ballymurphy
Seven, was released recently, along with fellow accused Stephen McMullan, by a
Diplock Court judge in Belfast. Like two other members of the group before
them, Ciaran McAllister and Brendan McCrory, the judge ruled that the
statements which they were forced to sign in custody, the sole evidence
against them, could not be relied upon. The judge, however, was careful not
to criticise the interview techniques employed by the RUC in Castlereagh
Interrogation Centre. In an interview with AP/RN, Danny Pettigrew said of
this three friends who are in Long Kesh:
"What is holding them in jail is the same thing as what was holding me, forced
confessions in Castlereagh," he said. "But the British don't want to go away
with egg on their face. They are looking for a scapegoat. They want somebody
for it. They don't want to admit that they are in the wrong and these three
are just the unlucky ones."
Danny Pettigrew served over two and a half years in prison charged with
attempted murder. His release has left him a free man, but entitled to no
compensation for the time spent in prison.
All seven young men have from the very beginning protested their innocence of
any involvement in the coffee-jar attack on a RUC Land Rover in August 1991.
Three years after their arrest, Michael Beck, Hugh McLaughlin and Tony Garland
were all earlier this month ordered by the judge to stand trial for the
attack. On the opening day of that trial, on Monday, 19 September, an extra
34 charges were dropped against Hugh McLaughlin. All of these charges,
including one of IRA membership, had been held over him for three years on the
basis solely of his forced "confession". But despite this dramatic collapse
of charges against him, McLaughlin still faces the attempted murder charge.
The four who have been released won their freedom at the pre-trial stage,
which dragged on for three years. The young men and their families have won
the support of Amnesty International, Helsinki Watch, TDs, MPs, members of the
US Congress and other justice groups.
Two days after his 17th birthday, Danny Pettigrew was arrested and brought to
Castlereagh. He described to AP/RN something of his ordeal there in the two
days before he eventually signed a statement: "One of the RUC interrogators,
Richard Smyth, came into the interview room. He hung his coat on the camera
and told me,'I don't care if you stand, sit or stand on your head, I'm still
going to beat your bollocks in'."
Pettigrew continued to deny all involvement, but his interrogator insisted
that he was guilty. He says that he was physically assaulted by Smyth and his
co-interrogator, Carol McChesney, while another, Gary Kirkpatrick, following
the sectarian killing of a Belfast woman, implied to Pettigrew that his mother
could have been the victim.
"The worst of all was the mental," says Pettigrew. "Getting hit I could deal
with, but I was always thinking, what's going to happen next? You start
remembering all the horror stories you heard on the outside and put them all
together in your head."
Danny Pettigrew's most frightening moment in the Crumlin Road Jail was when
the loyalist prisoners went on a rampage and staged a rooftop protest.
Pettigrew was sharing a cell with Michael Beck at the time and they found
their cell surrounded by loyalists trying to get in at them. Just as the
loyalists were breaking in, with the two young nationalists holding picture
boards up against the wall in a last desperate bid to keep them out, they were
finally rescued by the screws. "I was really scared for my life at that time,"
he said.
Shortly afterwards the young men were moved to Long Kesh.
When Danny Pettigrew was released at Crumlin Road Courthouse earlier this month
he did not know until the screws went to lead his three friends away that he
had been freed. "It was hard seeing them. It should have been a time for
celebration, but at that time I could find no emotion for celebration because
I knew that they were going back to Long Kesh."
"For now it's just a case of fighting on until the lads are also released,"
said Danny Pettigrew. "They've been in jail for over three years now and they
are completely innocent."
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1252.69 | Letter from Senator Frank Lautenberg to Warren Christopher | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Fri Oct 07 1994 16:57 | 34 |
|
Letter from Senator Frank Lautenberg to Warren Christopher:
Dear Secretary Christopher:
"I am writing regarding Hugh McLaughlin, Michael beck and Anthony Murphy, the
remaining members of the original "Ballymurphy Seven" being held in
connection with a 1991 bomb attack on British security forces in Northern
Ireland.
Reports from respected international human rights organizations raise
disturbing allegations of legal and human rights violations surrounding the
arrest, interrogation and detention of these and other prisoners being held
by U.K. authorities in Northern Ireland. Like the four members of the
Ballymurphy seven already released by UK authorities, McLaughlin, Beck and
Murphy have recanted their confessions. These confessions, which form the
principal basis for their upcoming prosecution, allegedly were obtained at
Castlereigh Interrogation Center under physical and emotional duress.
I believe that the cause of peace in Northern Ireland is best served by
conciliation and political dialogue. Under the circumstances, I ask that you
instruct our Embassy in London and our Consulate General in Belfast to
inquire with UK authorities at appropriately high levels to determine what,
if anything, about the cases of McLaughlin, Beck and Murphy is materially
different from those of the other members of the Ballymurphy Seven released
earlier.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your
response.
Sincerely,
Frank R. Lautenberg
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1252.70 | BALLYMURPHY THREE RELEASED ON BAIL | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Wed Nov 02 1994 09:10 | 77 |
|
BALLYMURPHY THREE RELEASED ON BAIL
DUBLIN - After more than three years on remand, the Ballymurphy
Three walked out of court on bail yesterday. Belfast's Crumlin Road
courthouse erupted as they passed through, one by one, to finalize
the paperwork that would secure their release - for the time being
at least. Tearful campaigners and mothers hugged each other as they
waited to take the young men home.
Hugh Patrick McLaughlin and Michael Beck, both 21, and 20-year-old
Anthony Garland face charges of attempted murder relating to a
coffee jar bomb attack on a British army vehicle in August 1991.
They - along with four others released on two separate occasions
earlier this year - had pleaded not guilty to the allegations.
All the defendants claimed confessions had been obtained from them
after mistreatment during questioning by the RUC (Royal Ulster
Constabulary) at Castlereagh. They were christened the Ballymurphy
Seven by campaigners for their release.
The number dropped to three when four were acquitted after a court
ruling that the evidence against them was inadmissible.
Yesterday morning, the three remaining men had arrived in court half
expecting and half hoping that the case would Come to an end.
On Monday several boxes of documents and evidence which the
prosecution had stated earlier this year did not exist, were
produced in court. Lawyers for the three men told Mr, Justice Kerr
that, had they been given access to the evidence when it was asked
for, the whole complexion of the defense have been different.
On Tuesday, a formal application for acquittal was made following a
submission that the three defendants could not possibly receive a
fair trial.
In his ruling to the court, Mr. Justice Kerr said the failure to
disclose the documents had "raised serious concerns."
However, he would need to see examples of the documents to assess
whether or not their disclosure would have affected the course of
the case.
After an hour of consultation, defense lawyers argued it would take
quite some time as there were at least 10 boxes of statements and
documents to wade through.
Meanwhile, they applied for bait citing changes in the attitude of
the crown, which had opposed it on all previous occasions. Granting
bail, the judge said: It does appear to me to be in the interests of
justice to accede to the application which has been made.
"In the unique circumstances of the present case, it seems to me
that justice would be best served by the granting of bail."
Irish American Information Service
Offices:
Dublin: 4 Dame Court
Dublin 2 Ireland
Tel. 011-353-1-774072
Fax: 011-353-1-6793198
Washington: National Press Building
529 14th St., NW Suite 837
Washington, DC 20045 USA
Tel. 202-662-8830
Fax: 202-662-8831
Michigan: 35941 Six Mile Rd.
Livonia, MI 48152 USA
Tel. 313-464-4119
Fax: 313-464-4240
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1252.71 | Irish prisoners in the US | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Thu Dec 15 1994 12:10 | 104 |
|
from The Irish People
Dec. 13, 1994
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Adams to White House: "Release Irish Political Prisoners in U.S."
by Sandy Boyer
Throughout his Washington visit last week Gerry Adams urged
the Clinton Administration to move to free Irish political
prisoners in the United States. He made a presentation on the
prisoners to National Security Advisor Anthony Lake in their
White House meeting. He returned to the issue of the prisoners in
subsequent meetings at the State Department and with Senators
Kennedy and Dodd and Congressman Benjamin Gilman, the incoming
chair of the House Foreign Relations Committee.
Adams told everyone that the lack of progress for the
prisoners was very disturbing to the Irish community in America.
He said the treatment of the H-Block 4 and Mixey Martin, among a
number of other cases was sharply at odds with Clinton's campaign
promise that there would be no political interference in
extradition cases.
Appeal
The government is presently appealing Judge Barbara
Caulfield's ruling denying extradition for Jimmy Smyth of the
H-Block 4. In the past they repeatedly appealed decisions to
release him on $1.5 million bail.
Mixey Martin is presently imprisoned in London on a United
States extradition warrant. The government wants to try him for
allegedly attempting to purchase weapons for the IRA in Florida,
together withSeamus Moley and Kevin McKinley.
Bail has been repeatedly opposed "on behalf of the United
States government." Everyone familiar with the case agrees that
there is virtually no evidence against Martin.
Docket
Adams gave the government a detailed docket on nineteen
Irish political casses either in United States jails or pending
trial, extradition or deportation. In each case he provided the
name, the nature of the proceedings, the remedy being sought, and
the attorney's name, address and phone number.
Bad Faith
He cited numerous incidents of government bad faith. Judges
granted political asylum to both Jim Barr and Paul Campbell. The
government is appealing both cases, trying to deport them to the
North of Ireland. Patrick Maguire and his wife Mary lived in the
United States peacefully for over a decade. Their four children
were born here. Two months after the IRA cease fire, Ins agents
arrested him. The government arrested him.
The government initially succeeded in having him imprisoned
because he couldn't raise $100,000 bail. At both the White House
and the State Department Adams requested that the administration
prepare a detailed response so that the Irish community will know
exactly what they are prepared to do. He asked for a follow-up
meeting between Sinn Fein and the Justice Department to go over
each case individually.
Start
Gerry Adams' Washington visit represents an excellent start
to a concerted campaign to free all Irish political prisoners in
the United States. But those who care about the prisoners can't
just sit back and leave everything to the Sinn Fein president.
Before Christmas each of us needs to communicate with our
senators and our members of congress, asking them to request
Justice Department action on behalf of the prisoners. This is the
best present we can give these prisoners.
The House and Senate Judiciary Committees have special
influence with the Justice Department. Henry Hyde (R-IL) will be
the new chair of the House Committee, with Orin Hatch (R-UT)
taking over in the senate. If there is not substantial progress
by the new year, I believe we will have to plan for a long-term
campaign to free the prisoners. The kind of coordinated
demonstrations that helped free the "Guildford 4," the
"Birmingham 6," and the South African political prisoners should
be an important part of that effort.
Gerry Adams has put the administration and the congress on
notice. The Irish political prisoners in America cannot be
ignored!
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1252.72 | News on the last three members of the "Ballymurphy Seven" | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Wed Mar 08 1995 10:04 | 29 |
|
from the Irish Emigrant (3/6/95)
COURTS
-The last three members of the "Ballymurphy Seven" were acquitted at
Belfast Crown Court on Friday. Hugh McLaughlin (21), Tony Garland
(20) and Michael Beck (21) were freed by Justice Brian Kerr who,
according to an RTE reporter, acted in a "mean-spirited and
begrudging fashion". In his jugdement Justice Kerr dismissed the
allegations of ill-treatment by the RUC, accused the three of
"concocting" stories of maltreatment, and only acquitted them because
the prosecution had "inadvertently" failed to make ten boxes of
written case evidence available to counsel for the defence. Their
four co-accused were released at different times as the confessions
which they were alleged to have made were considered unsafe. All
seven were picked up because they were in the vicinity of an
attempted attack on the security forces. The RUC say that they
subsequently confessed to acting as lookouts for the IRA who carried
out the attack. The seven youths spent between 24 and 40 months in
custody.
-IRA jailbreaker Joe Doherty has lost his battle to have nine years
which he spent in custody in New York considered as part of his
sentence. Doherty was eventually extradited to the North in 1992 and
will not now be due for release until 2002.
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1252.73 | Address of Irish Political Prisoners & POWs in the USA | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Tue Apr 11 1995 10:49 | 98 |
|
FYI: In case any of you don't remember, Richard Johnson is a fellow engineer
who lived in the Nashua area (worked down at Mitre). The FBI tapped the
public phones at exit 1 (Royal Crest Mall) to entrap him, or so I've heard.
Mark
Address of Irish Political Prisoners & POWs in the USA
Kevin Barry Artt
33020-198
F.D.C. Camp Parks
5675 Eight Street
Dublin, CA 94568
*********
Pol Brennan
UGM 818
U.S. Marshall Prisoner
Oakland City Jail
611 Broadway DF13
Oakland, CA 94601
**********
Richard Johnson
17422-038
Allenwood F.C.I (Med.)
P.O Box 2000
Whitedeer, PA 17887
***********
Terry Kirby
88533-011
F.D.C. Camp Park
5675 Eight Street
Dublin, CA 94568
***********
Eamon McGuire
Allenwood F.C.I (Med.)
P.O. Box 2000
Whitedeer, PA 17887
************
Gerry McGeough
37768-053
F.C.I. Fairton
P.O. Box 420
Fairton, NJ 08320
*************
Martin Quigley
41064-066
Allenwood F.C.I. (med.)
P.O. Box 2000
Whitedeer, PA 17887
************
Michael Martin
03360-196
Federal Correction Institute
8901 So. Wilmot
Tucson, Arizona 86700
************
Jimmy Smyth
(free on bail. currently contesting extradition)
c/o San Francisco H-Block Defense Committee
546 Mission Street, Box 659
San Francisco, CA 94105
*************
for further information, contact:
The Writing Campaign
4110 Farmdale Road
Philadelphia, PA 19154
(215) 637-3728
Saoirse-Freedom
363 Seventh Ave
Suite 405
New York, New York 10001
(212) 726-1916
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1252.74 | who gives a toss? | CBHVAX::CBH | Lager Lout | Tue Apr 11 1995 14:45 | 0 |
1252.75 | | METSYS::THOMPSON | | Tue Apr 11 1995 15:24 | 6 |
|
Out of interested, what did Richard Johnson do to get into so much
trouble?
Thks
Mark
|
1252.76 | one for irish humour as well i think | KERNEL::BARTHUR | | Wed Apr 12 1995 07:48 | 4 |
| probably nothing according to Holohan! He was "entrapped" by the FBI.
tut tut what will they get up to next? imagine bugging a poor innocent
man and sending him to jail. In the land of the free as well? my
goodness me.
|
1252.77 | | KOALA::HOLOHAN | | Fri Apr 14 1995 09:47 | 6 |
|
He was taped by the FBI discussing the construction of surface to
air missiles with a friend from north east Ireland. For that he
was given 10 years.
Mark
|
1252.78 | | KIRKTN::SNEIL | J.A.F.O | Fri Apr 14 1995 17:31 | 7 |
|
....The wee soul.
|
1252.79 | Political prisoner, Jimmy Smyth | GYRO::HOLOHAN | | Wed Jun 26 1996 10:03 | 63 |
| [Friends of Sinn Fein]
25 June 1996
ACTION ALERT
CALLING ALL ACTIVISTS
The Supreme Court refused to hear escaped Irish political prisoner Jimmy
Smyth's appeal for asylum.
The decision means that the FBI could pick Jimmy up at any moment and send
him into the arms of the British forces in Belfast. A decision from Clinton
or Warren Christopher as Secretary of State are the only options to keep
Jimmy from being extradited.
Sinn Fein is issuing an urgent action alert calling for phone calls, faxes
and emails to the White House. Clinton can (and should be quoted by all
calling) as saying ``there will be no more Joe Doherty cases''
Adams appeals for Smyth
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Call the White House at: (202) 456-1414
Fax the White House at: (202) 456-2461
e-mail the President at: [email protected]
Mail your letters to:
President Bill Clinton,
The White House,
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue,
NW Washington, DC 20500
Make your voices heard!!!
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Please also Contact your Congresspeople and Senators asking them
to support Jimmy Smith.
Go raibh maith agat
Make Our Voices Heard!!!
SUPPORT JIMMY SMITH
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1252.80 | | CHEFS::COOPERT1 | tell mum before you go somewhere | Wed Jun 26 1996 10:08 | 4 |
| Can anybbody tell me what this bloke is wanted for?
CHARLEY
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1252.81 | | BIS1::MENZIES | Resume the Ceasefire!!! | Wed Jun 26 1996 10:31 | 8 |
| He admits to being a Nationalist and a memeber of Sinn Fein but he
denys membership of the IRA. He was arrested and sent to the maze
prison for his alleged involvement in the murder of a British Soldier,
killed during an IRA shootout. He escaped the maze along with 30 odd
others and was recaptured in America where he was married and living
under an assumed name. He has always protested his innocence.
Shaun.
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1252.82 | | CHEFS::COOPERT1 | tell mum before you go somewhere | Wed Jun 26 1996 10:50 | 1 |
| Thanks.
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