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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

1252.0. "Names & Addresses of Prisoners" by MPGS::RIORDAN () Thu Jul 29 1993 10:52


    Is there an organization in Ireland that we can write to and get a listing 
    of Irish Political Prisoners and their addresses?  My family has been 
    asking me if there is a listing of Irish Political Prisoners with 
    addresses.  We would like to write some letters of support to the 
    prisoners and were wondering if there were such a listing.  If there is 
    how would I go about getting a copy. 
                                                            
    Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Mary Riordan
MPGS::RIORDAN

    
    
    
    
    
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1252.1KOALA::HOLOHANThu Jul 29 1993 11:1920
Sinn Fein Head Office
44 Parnell Square
Dublin 1, Ireland

Sinn Fein Foreign Affairs Bureau
51/55 Falls Road
Belfast BT12
Ireland

The Pat Finucane Centre
1 Westend Park
Derry BT48 9JF
Derry, Ireland

Irish Northern Aid Committee
363 Seventh Ave
New York, NY  10001
tel 212-736-1916
fax 212-279-1916
1252.2VYGER::RENNISONMSpherical - and in the pluralFri Jul 30 1993 10:075
I suggest you find out if they are really political prisoners or just 
common criminals claiming to be freedom fighters first.

Just a suggestion,
Mark R.
1252.3KOALA::HOLOHANFri Jul 30 1993 11:5517
  re. .2
  That's easy, I gave the addresses of organizations
  that will only give you information on political
  prisoners.  The common criminals, on the other hand,
  tend to still be in uniform back in their old
  British regiments. 

  What's to fear with someone wanting information?
  Let Mary and her family write, get responses, and
  determine for themselves the status of these
  men and women.  Let them make their own decisions.

  Mary, I posted a letter from Danny Morrison (note 1229)
  that you might find interesting.

                               Mark
1252.4VYGER::RENNISONMSpherical - and in the pluralWed Aug 04 1993 08:3627
>  re. .2
>  That's easy, I gave the addresses of organizations
>  that will only give you information on political
>  prisoners.

No problem.
  

>           The common criminals, on the other hand,
>  tend to still be in uniform back in their old
>  British regiments.

Our definition of criminals must be different. Mine includes those who 
detonate bombs in town centres (on either side of the Irish Sea).
 

>  What's to fear with someone wanting information?
>  Let Mary and her family write, get responses, and
>  determine for themselves the status of these
>  men and women.  Let them make their own decisions.

Absolutely nothing to fear at all. I'm sure Mary can distinguish between 
propaganda and reality.


                               Mark
1252.5whats to fear of lies, deceit and muurder?MOVIES::BENSONI/O I/O, its off to disk I goWed Aug 04 1993 09:4645
    
    .3 writes
    
>>           The common criminals, on the other hand,
>>  tend to still be in uniform back in their old
>>  British regiments.
>
      .4 replies
    
>Our definition of criminals must be different. Mine includes those who 
>detonate bombs in town centres (on either side of the Irish Sea).
    
    
    I almost agree except that I think you've picked the groups on the basis on
    some particular nasty actions of theirs rather than a straighforward
    definition.
    
    How about if we say that a criminal is someone who flouts the law of the
    land which is supported my the majority of the people who live there. How
    about if we say that if it is the law of the land that it is illegal to
    plant explosive devices in public streets and buildings and if you go ahead
    an plant those bombs then you are a criminal. Lets leave out the term
    'common' for a moment. I wouldn't want to put a class distinction into such
    use. If you break the law then you are a criminal. If you kill people and
    there is _NO GOVERNMENT_ that supports you then you are not a soldier. You
    are not a political prisoner either (to be one of those you have to be
    arrested for saying the wrong things, not shooting people). You are simply
    and clearly a murderer. Say it again. Murderer. You have stolen the life of
    someone who may well have been enjoying it. You have no right to subltle
    distinctions of title based on twisted definitions, broken use of language
    and hatred.
    
    Before I loose it too much, let me point out that I apply this to lots of
    groups, IRA, INLA, IPLO, all of them. They ignore the law and kill people.
    They are all political prisoners. I suggest that the readers of this
    conference think hard about the difference.
    
    (think calmly colin)
    
    regards
    
    -colin
    
    
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1252.6And NOT all the prisons are located in Northern Ireland either.HILL16::BURNSANCL�RWed Aug 04 1993 10:2012
    
    NOT all prisoners are murderers and NOT all prisoners are members of
    the IRA !!
    
    
    
    Does the term "Supergrass" ring a bell with anyone ??
    
    
    
    keVin
    
1252.7my error.MOVIES::BENSONI/O I/O, its off to disk I goWed Aug 04 1993 10:3124
re .5, you said:

>>NOT all prisoners are murderers and NOT all prisoners are members of
>>the IRA !!
    
    
    
>>Does the term "Supergrass" ring a bell with anyone ??
    
on reflection and rereading  what I wrote:

>Before I loose it too much, let me point out that I apply this to lots of
>groups, IRA, INLA, IPLO, all of them. They ignore the law and kill people.
>They are all political prisoners. I suggest that the readers of this
>conference think hard about the difference.
    
I'd partly agree with you. Those people who kill others and claim to be
members of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) are murderers too. I should
have included them the first time.

regards

-colin
1252.8Why are there places like Castlerea ??HILL16::BURNSANCL�RWed Aug 04 1993 11:0215
    
    
    Re: .7
    
    Do you believe that ALL persons in prison have committed crimes ??
    
    
    Is there a chance that a few prisoners may have been wrongly convicted ??
    
    
    
    
    keVin
    
    
1252.9KOALA::HOLOHANWed Aug 04 1993 11:4539

 How can one determine guilt or innocence of a man
 or woman who has been put behind bars by a juryless
 trial, via a coerced confession?  

 How can a man or woman have their guilt or innocence
 determined, in a polic state, where silence alone is
 enough to assume guilt?  I suggest you read Amnesty 
 International, and the Helsinki Watch reports on 
 these kinds of "trials".

 Now, where does the British record of faked evidence
 and imprisonment of the innocent fit into your
 picture?  

 How does the fact that British Army members who
 commit murder are either never brought to trial, or
 given slaps on the wrists, fit into your picture?

 Where does the known collusion between the British
 Army and Loyalist terror groups fit into your picture?

 Where does the fact that the British SAS who aided in the
 bombing of Dublin, and who have never been brought to 
 trial, fit into your picture?  
 Would you call their crimes murder, or would you say
 that they were soldiers doing their duty, because they
 had the backing of the British government?
 Is a British soldier who shoots a twelve year old
 girl in the back with a plastic bullet a murderer,
 or just a soldier doing his duty?  After all he has
 the backing of the British government.

 Now, where do men and women who are willing to fight
 against this kind of injustice, fit into this picture?

 
                   Mark
1252.10NOVA::EASTLANDWed Aug 04 1993 12:1115
    
    You have no evidence that SAS aided bombing of Dublin. At this stage
    that story is a conspiracy theory still. Most of the 'facts' you deploy
    are at best speculation and are therefore best categorized as
    propaganda, for which you are a mouthpiece. And once again, I find your
    horror at the injustice of it all just so hyprocritical given your
    typical reaction to acts of terrorism in England. There is no doubt
    some element of oppression in Northern Ireland. There is a low level
    conflict going on which does not excuse it all, but makes it rather
    typical. Your case would be less transparent if you showed
    equanimity once in a while. By the way, if NI is a police state, what
    would you call Hitler's Germany or Saddam's Iraq by comparison.
    
    I don't expect an answer, just more hyperbole.
    
1252.11MOVIES::BENSONI/O I/O, its off to disk I goWed Aug 04 1993 12:1945
re .9


> Now, where do men and women who are willing to fight
> against this kind of injustice, fit into this picture?


Do they break the laws of the land as supported by the
majority of the population to do so? If the answer is yes
then they fit into the picture in the big box labeled 
criminal. If the laws they break are those regarding
use of violence then I think they get sub-classification 
'murderer.'

There are laws in Northern Ireland. They _ARE_ supported
and endorsed by the majority of the population in Northern
Ireland (and incidentally by the population of Great
Britain with whom they share nationality). If you are in
the minority and you don't like the way you're being
treated then British law offers two legal ways out.

1. Peaceful protest and campaigning. I'd go for this one. I
believe it can work.

2. Leave the country. If someone wants to be part of the
Republic of Ireland so badly then they should go and live
there. I think they'd be welcome.

If you are in the minority (I specifically refer to the
minority of the population regardless of religion who
embrace violence as a means to an end) and you  carry out
violent acts then you are a criminal.

Would you agree that people who have commited violent acts
against military and civilian targets are criminals?

Would you agree that criminals (reminder: thats folks who
break the laws of the place they live) should be punished
by imprisonment if their crimes are serious?

As a trailer I would say that I think that soldiers of the
British army who act outside the law (yes, it even applies
to them!!) should be punished too. The wonderful thing
about the law is that it can be applied to you know matter
how much right is on your side. I like it that way.
1252.12CLADA::DODONNELLNothing personal.It's just business.Wed Aug 04 1993 12:2612
    
re .11

>2. Leave the country. If someone wants to be part of the
>Republic of Ireland so badly then they should go and live
>there. I think they'd be welcome.

Yeah right, croppies lie down or else. It could also be said that if 
someone wants to be part of the United Kingdom so badly then they 
should go and live there. I think they'd be welcome.

Denis.
1252.13MOVIES::BENSONI/O I/O, its off to disk I goWed Aug 04 1993 12:3127
re .10 from NOVA::EASTLAND

While I agree with most of your sentiments I would say that
the definition of a police state is not at all clear to me
especially in the light of my (only 2) visits to Northern
Ireland.

What I saw was checkpoints with lots and lots of armed
soldiers and policemen. Mostly the police were carrying
very very big guns. Mostly they were pointing them directly
at my head. I found this a tad disconcerting.


If I lived there I think I might be a little happier with
the idea of all the guns. It messes up your daily life but
at least you get an outside chance of being alive to
complain about it tomorrow.

I don't know if things are better in the countryside. Most
of what I saw was in Belfast and Newry and it scared me.

To get back on form, I believe that those agents of the law
(you remember, its the thing that the majority of the
population voted for, in the Republic where I grew up we
called it democracy) are there to stop those people who
have decided that what they want is important enough to
kill people for.
1252.14NOVA::EASTLANDWed Aug 04 1993 12:3710
    
    I guess to my mind a police state is a place where due process if law
    is nonexistent, where the police can arrest anyone, anytime just
    because they feel like it. Then they can torture and kill their
    prisoners with impunity. I have no doubt there are abuses in Northern
    Ireland. I doubt that the abuses are anywhere near as widespread as is
    being maintained here. It's the old rub - security versus individual
    rights. As for the presence of weaponry, really what else would you
    expect. 
    
1252.15KOALA::HOLOHANWed Aug 04 1993 12:4315
 re. .11

>1. Peaceful protest and campaigning. I'd go for this one. I
>believe it can work.

 "non-violence presupposes that the oppressor has a
  conscience."
          - Nelson Mandela

 Now, what was it that happened to those civil rights
 marchers in Derry?


                     Mark
1252.16MOVIES::BENSONI/O I/O, its off to disk I goWed Aug 04 1993 12:4453
>Yeah right, croppies lie down or else. It could also be
>said that if 
>someone wants to be part of the United Kingdom so badly
>then they 
>should go and live there. I think they'd be welcome.


No, live with the rules here (which most of the people want
and vote for again and again to prove it) or go somewhere
that has rules you do like. Noone is stopping you from
leaving.

And lastly, they DO live in the united kingdom. Its all
called 'the united kingdom of great britain and northern
ireland'. They don't live in the republic of Ireland which
is a different country which shares a border with Northern
Ireland.

Why is it so hard to accept that someone who lives in one
place might have some right to vote on the fate of that
place. If most of the people who live there vote for
something then why should a minority of people who live
there have a right to force something different on the rest
of the populace of that place.

Now you've made me bring nationalism into it. I didn't want
to do that because thats not where the conflict in Northern
Ireland comes from. The current troubles (in my opinion and
those of the historians who's work I have taken the trouble
to read) stem from religious bigotries that existed in the
north in the 1960 (and before and after...)

Nationalism (on either sideis an excuse. It sounds a whole
lot better to say that you shot someone as part of a
rebellion to do something noble and patriotic than that you
killed them and deprived their family and children of them
because you didn't like the church they went to.

I have the distinction of being Irish and Jewish. I grew up
knowing all about religious bigotry and I can recognise it
when I see it. I also grew up in a country where religious
bigotry is an almost negligible facet of life. My
grandparents had stones thrown at them in the street. They
came to Ireland to escape that and they did.

I'm not filled with confidence that those who act violently
in northern ireland now would be quite so considerate.
Perhaps if they ran out of catholics/protestants to hate
they could turn on jews. After all, hatred is a habit that
dies hard.

-c
1252.17CLADA::DODONNELLNothing personal.It's just business.Wed Aug 04 1993 12:488
    
    It was the reaction by the state (Storment) and loyalists to peaceful
    demonstrations that started this whole mess. Nationalists decided to
    meet force with force. The present day IRA was created by the Storment 
    government.
    
    
    Denis.   
1252.18NOVA::EASTLANDWed Aug 04 1993 12:533
    
    Oh yes, quoting Nelson Mandela, a well known human rights hypocrite.
    Lots of blood on his hands.
1252.19MOVIES::BENSONI/O I/O, its off to disk I goWed Aug 04 1993 12:5340
My fingers are getting tired but...

re: .14  NOVA::EASTLAND

> It's the old rub - security versus individual rights. As
>for the presence of weaponry, really what else would you
>expect. 

I guess I was unclear. I didn't like what I saw in northern
ireland. If I lived there I'd vote for it though.

re: .15KOALA::HOLOHAN

> "non-violence presupposes that the oppressor has a
>  conscience."
>          - Nelson Mandela

> Now, what was it that happened to those civil rights
> marchers in Derry?

> 
Rubbish. non violence presupposes that the oppressor can be
given a conscience by gentle (and very very persistent)
reminders that they are oppressing. Try Gandhi, he managed
just fine without bullets (of course some religious zealot
showed him...)


What happened to the civil rights marchers in Derry was
that they got shot by bigots and fools. The poeple who did
the shooting should have been punished and weren't (so far
as I know, correct me if I'm wrong). That was wrong. They
broke the law and they didn't suffer the consequences and I
regret that. 

One day that might change. Of course we're unlikely to see
much of a softening of hearts so long as they along with a
majority of internal organs are covered with flak jackets.
get my drift?

1252.20MOVIES::BENSONI/O I/O, its off to disk I goWed Aug 04 1993 12:5814
re .17

>It was the reaction by the state (Storment) and loyalists
>to peaceful demonstrations that started this whole mess.
>Nationalists decided to meet force with force. The present
>day IRA was created by the Storment government.

Yes and you'll notice how long they lasted. Does anyone
know when the British parliament got around to making
Stormont a joke? I can't remember.


-c
    
1252.21CLADA::DODONNELLNothing personal.It's just business.Wed Aug 04 1993 13:1228
re.16

>No, live with the rules here (which most of the people want
>and vote for again and again to prove it) or go somewhere
>that has rules you do like. Noone is stopping you from
>leaving.

As I've said nationalists lived with the rules for fifty years.
when they tried to change the rules by peaceful demonstration
like you suggested, they were beaten and murdered.

>And lastly, they DO live in the united kingdom. Its all
>called 'the united kingdom of great britain and northern
>ireland'. They don't live in the republic of Ireland which
>is a different country which shares a border with Northern
>Ireland.

Oh yes the United Kingdom. Where you can be deported from one part
of the country to another even though you haven't been convicted of
any crime. The north of Ireland is an artificial state created on the
basis of a sectarian headcount. The size of this state was determined
by drawing a line on a map. This line can be redrawn at any time in 
the future. Do you think the map of Scotland or Wales can be redrawn?
To say that it's a completely different country to the rest of Ireland 
is rubbish.

Denis.

1252.22TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceWed Aug 04 1993 16:278
    RE: .14  by NOVA::EASTLAND 
    
    >I guess to my mind a police state is a place where due process if law
    >is nonexistent, where the police can arrest anyone, anytime just
    >because they feel like it. ...
    
    Glad to hear you see it that way.  I didn't think you'd admit it.
    
1252.23NOVA::EASTLANDWed Aug 04 1993 16:354
    
    ..whereas I did think you'd make your normal contribution Dennis - lift 
    something out of context and affix a snide comment.
    
1252.24reasoned debate implies intellectual honesty.MOVIES::BENSONI/O I/O, its off to disk I goThu Aug 05 1993 08:0634
    I'm going to make this short in the hope of not saying anything too job
    threatening.
    
    I came to this conference for the first time yesterday. I read one note
    and lost my temper and I started to write. I wrote several replies and
    now I pretty much give in. This is the noting equivalent of rolling up
    my newspaper and going home.
    
    You are mostly fools. I feel sorry for you. You use broken logic and
    half truths to bolster opinions that would get you laughed out of any
    court in the world (a jury would probably throw rotten fruit at you).
    
    That on its own is ok. Its not for me to live your lives. However,
    support for terrorism from a distance is just about the most dispicable
    piece of couch potato atitude I have ever seen. If you feel so strongly
    then go and risk your lives.
    
    Several weeks ago I was in an Irish pub in San Francisco. It was filled
    with republican memorabilia. Fair enough, every likes to romanticise
    about events of long ago (say 80 years). It also had posters espousing
    the cause of current known terrorists. It made me sick. These people
    who call themselves Irish and finance Noraid are dirt. I'm Irish, I was
    born in Ireland and I grew up there. One day I might even go back
    there. No one is killing anybody in my name. If you support it, if you
    pay for it, if you sympathise with it then as far as I'm concerned you
    have the blood on your hands and all the stupid name calling and sly
    propoganda in the world can't wash it off.
    
    I'm not religious to any great extent. I do hope though that there's a
    special place in hell for such people. They deserve worse.
    
    bye now
    
    -colin
1252.25PLAYER::BROWNLVideo ergo ludoThu Aug 05 1993 08:3813
    Well said that man. My sentiments entirely. If you want to be really
    sick, go look in ::SOAPBOX. By comparison, this place is positively
    pedestrian. I long ago gave up listening to ::HOLOHAN and his
    unlamented friend ::DROTTER. In SOAPBOX I recently re-asked them a
    question, repeatedly, which they refused to answer, nay, refused to
    acknowledge my having asked it. I said then, and I'll say now, they
    aren't worth listening to. Reading this topic, there seems to be an
    addition to the camp, and at least this one seems to live in Ireland.
    However, it seems already, that reasoned debate with them is more a
    case of self-flagellation. Nowadays, I'm mostly RO on these
    "discussions".
    
    Laurie$half_Irish.
1252.26CLADA::DODONNELLNothing personal.It's just business.Thu Aug 05 1993 08:5117
   Re .24

   I don't need you to feel sorry for me. Where have I used broken logic
   and half truths? And where have I stated support for terrorism? Truth
   is, I haven't. However you're another one who believes that questioning
   or disagreeing with British policy on the north or supporting the cause
   of nationalists equates to support for terrorism. That's OK, I'm used
   to that sort of crap. Constitutional nationalists in the six counties
   are also used to it and are paying the price for it. The homes of twelve
   members of the SDLP have been attacked this year. 

   Go if you want. I don't like been accused of intellectual dishonesty or
   being a supporter of terrorism just because I hold views different from
   your own. You won't be missed.

   Denis.   
1252.27CLADA::DODONNELLNothing personal.It's just business.Thu Aug 05 1993 08:577
    
    Re Laurie,
    
    So you too think that anyone who disagrees with you is not capable
    of reasonable debate? And aren't you ashamed of your 50% Irish?
    
    Denis.
1252.28WELSWS::HEDLEYConquistador Instant LeprosyThu Aug 05 1993 09:4120
Reasonable debate about a subject is fair enough.  I don't normally enter
into this particular one because I don't know enough about the subject
in question.

What I find objectionable is when this particular subject is used as an
excuse for certain individuals to express their more generalised anglophobic
sentiment, and the fact that said individuals, when approached by this,
often resort to petty personal attacks.

Anyway, I was under the impression that this conference was intended as
a discussion forum for Celtic issues, not some sort of heavily political
propaganda repository to promote the activities of certain groups and
engage in Brit bashing at any opportunity; a very significant proportion
of the base notes entered in the last few months unfortunately fall into
the latter camp.

Oh well, now I just need to wait for the usual comments calling me an
ignorant twat 'coz I object to being slagged off for being British.

Chris.
1252.29Owned by the former San Fransisco Police Chief.HILL16::BURNSANCL�RThu Aug 05 1993 09:4821
    
    
    
    I think the pub mentioned in .24 is called "Ireland's 32"  located at 
    3920 Geary Blvd. One of the best Irish Pubs in San Fransisco.
    
    
    
    keVin
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	A fine pub.
    
    
    
    
1252.30Don't hold your breath, Laurie...TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceThu Aug 05 1993 09:519
    RE: .25  by PLAYER::BROWNL 
    
    >I long ago gave up listening to ::HOLOHAN and his unlamented friend
    >::DROTTER. In SOAPBOX I recently re-asked them a question, repeatedly,
    >which they refused to answer, nay, refused to acknowledge my having
    >asked it. 
    
    ::DROTTER got TFSO'd the end of June and is in Ireland now.
    
1252.31KOALA::HOLOHANThu Aug 05 1993 10:008
  Brown, and Benson, 

  Try reading Amnesty International, and Helsinki
  Watch reports on British human rights violations in
  northern Ireland.

                     Mark
1252.32Gone for good?MACNAS::JDOOLEYOn the wayThu Aug 05 1993 11:185
    Where in Ireland is Joseph Drotter ?
    
    
    
    
1252.33NOVA::EASTLANDThu Aug 05 1993 11:502
    
    Why are we discussing El Drotter here. Is he a prisoner?
1252.34PLAYER::BROWNLVideo ergo ludoThu Aug 05 1993 13:069
RE: <<< Note 1252.27 by CLADA::DODONNELL "Nothing personal.It's just business." >>>

�    So you too think that anyone who disagrees with you is not capable
�    of reasonable debate? And aren't you ashamed of your 50% Irish?
    
    Your assumption, and incorrect. In answer to your question: No. should I
    be?
    
    Laurie.
1252.35PLAYER::BROWNLVideo ergo ludoThu Aug 05 1993 13:0912
RE: .28

     Well said. Once again, my sentiments.

RE:             <<< Note 1252.30 by TOPDOC::AHERN "Dennis the Menace" >>>
    
�    ::DROTTER got TFSO'd the end of June and is in Ireland now.
    
    The first part I knew, hence my use of the word "unlamented". The
    second I did not. I hope he enjoys it, I wish I could go.
    
    Laurie.
1252.36BERN02::OREILLYThere&#039;s a fish on top of Shandon swears he&#039;s Elvis.Fri Aug 06 1993 04:224
>    
>    Why are we discussing El Drotter here. Is he a prisoner?
>
Hope not. He'd enjoy it too much.
1252.37CLADA::DODONNELLNothing personal.It&#039;s just business.Fri Aug 06 1993 04:4921
    
    re .34 PLAYER::BROWNL
    
    No I don't think my assumption is incorrect. 
    
    >In answer to your question: No. should I be?
    
    See EF93 NOTE 52.55. You sign off that note -
    -            Laurie$ashamed_of_my_Irish_50%_AGAIN. This was because of
    the Warrington bombing. However, I don't recall you telling us how you
    were ashamed of your British 50% after a pro British group murdered five
    catholics in Castlerock in the name of the United Kingdom. But that's 
    alright, I'm quite used to your hypocrasy not to mention your whingeing
    and moaning. I'm sure you'll hop along to EF93 now and complain about
    the pro IRA terrorist who's giving you a hard time in CELT.
    
    What a plonker.
    
    Denis.
    
    
1252.38PLAYER::BROWNLCareful with those plums!Fri Aug 06 1993 05:2459
RE: <<< Note 1252.37 by CLADA::DODONNELL "Nothing personal.It's just business." >>>
    
�    What a plonker.
    
    Wasn't it you who said it was the last resort of a "Brit" on the run to
    resort to name-calling and maligning the messenger? Hello Pot, this is
    Kettle calling...
    
    In fact your assumption *is* incorrect. It is perfectly true that I
    was, and remain, ashamed of my Irish 50% when Irish people can find it
    in themselves to plant bombs in a shopping arcade, and cold-bloodedly
    attempt to kill and maim midday shoppers, including women and children.
    I make no apologies for that, and indeed, I wonder why someone else
    wouldn't feel the same way.
    
    I am also on record, and in case you missed it, I'll restate it, as
    saying that I abhor this killing, from wherever it comes. I condemn the
    killing of innocent people, whether by the Republicans or the
    Loyalists. I cannot see any justification for it whatsoever, full stop.
    
    My question to Drotter and Holohan, and one that remains unanswered by
    either of them, was "Do you condemn as a cowardly act, the planting and
    exploding of a bomb in Warrington"? Both refused to answer a simple yes
    or no. Will you? No waffle, "Yes" or "No".
    
    I unreservedly and roundly condemn the killing of the five Catholics to
    whom you refer, and if those people were British, (as opposed to
    pro-British, as you assert) then I am ashamed of my British 50% because
    of it. However, as you've already argued that no part of Ireland is
    British, then the killers must have been Irish, which makes me ashamed
    of my Irish 50% too. So I'm 100% ashamed that my "countrymen" can be so
    barbaric.
    
    Although you didn't ask me this, in that reasnable and friendly way of
    yours, I'll state this for the record, just so you know where I stand. I
    do not condemn the killing of known and proven terrorists caught in the
    act of perpetrating the making, planting or exploding of a bomb, or in
    attempting to avoid arrest with the aid of firearms, or who are caught
    with firearms. Such people deserve all they get. I make absolutely no
    distinction in this, between Loyalist and Republican; both parties are
    as bad as each other, they are scum.
    
    You accuse me of hypocrisy. Once again, I have made a clear statement
    of my beliefs. I have had the guts to lay all my cards on the table for
    examination, and I stand by my opinion as those of a reasonable man.
    Will you do the same? Can you see that the killings perpetrated by the
    Republicans are just the same as the killings perpetrated by the
    Loyalists? You, and others of your ilk persistantly refuse to condemn
    the Republican terrorists, and persistantly espouse their "cause". Can
    you not see that if *you* are able to gloss over the truth, which is
    that these people are barbaric murdering scum, not heroes, that there
    are people on the other "side" who feel exactly the same about their
    "heroes"? Can you not see that until the killing stops, and until there
    are no more people who can "justify" it, that there will never be
    peace?
    
    And *I'm* a plonker?
    
    Laurie.
1252.39CLADA::DODONNELLNothing personal.It&#039;s just business.Fri Aug 06 1993 06:4254
    Re .38 PLAYER::BROWNL
    
>    Wasn't it you who said it was the last resort of a "Brit" on the run to
>    resort to name-calling and maligning the messenger? Hello Pot, this is
>    Kettle calling...

     No it wasn't. I have, to my knowledge never used the term "Brit" in
     any notesfile.

     When the IRA carry out violent acts, they do not do so in my name.
     Therfore I do not feel ashamed to be Irish. I called you on the 
     Castlerock murders because I felt it was just as heinous a crime
     as the Warrington atrocity and waited with baited breath for you
     to declare how ashamed of your 50% British. You didn't. Double
     standard. Not that *I* believe you should be ashamed of it as I 
     didn't believe for a minute that the UVF (who are a pro British 
     group whether you or I like it or not) acted with your blessing.
    
     Just for the record, it was you and Benson who stated your 
     nationalities, both claiming to be Irish as if that bestowed some
     extra legitimacy to your beliefs. I couldn't give a crap what
     nationality you are. I believe that just spouting the same old
     "Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom so there" line
     is akin to brushing the shit under the carpet. There is a complexity
     to the situation which must be addressed to find a solution. John
     Hume calls it the "totality of relationships". The relationship
     between nationalist & unionist, between north & south and between
     Dublin & London. If a solution is to be found, then all the parties
     in these relationships must be involved. That is SDLP policy and it
     is a policy which I agree with.

    >Loyalists? You, and others of your ilk persistantly refuse to condemn
    >the Republican terrorists, and persistantly espouse their "cause". Can
    >you not see that if *you* are able to gloss over the truth, which is
    >that these people are barbaric murdering scum, not heroes, that there
    
     Excuse me? I *have* condemned republican terrorism. If you read this 
     note carefully you will see that I'm doing it here too. Now let's examine
     the phrase "persistantly espouse their "cause"". If I support the cause
     of nationalists to achieve their aims through peaceful means does that
     make me an espouser of the IRA cause. It probably does as the cause
     of both peaceful and violent nationalists is a united Ireland. But
     doesn't the same hold true for those who support the unionists cause.
     Those who support the unionists cause even peacefully, are also 
     espousing the cause of the UVF as their goal is to keep the north in the
     UK. Therfore you and your ilk are espousing the cause of the UVF. Whats
     sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander but you don't aknowledge this
     and that in my opinion is a double standard.

     Denis.

     ps. I now await notes claiming that John Hume and his ilk are 
     sectarian supporters of IRA terrorism. It's been done before.
1252.40Do not group ::Holohan and ::Drotter together.MACNAS::JDOOLEYOn the wayFri Aug 06 1993 06:529
    I do not see how one can group Drotter and Holohan as being similar in
    terms of the offensiveness of their contributions to this forum.
    Mark, to his credit, simply quotes other nationalist writers views in
    his reports. He does not reach the level of vitriolic hatred displayed
    by Joseph Drotter whose output, if it were directed at a recognised
    minority or other legally protected group, would warrant action under
    some race relations or incitement to hatred law.
    
    
1252.41I started in ClareSIOG::OSULLIVAN_DB� c�ramach, a leanbhFri Aug 06 1993 11:476
    re: .29
    
    keVin, I remember that bar now.  I once had 32 pints there, one for
    every...oh never mind!
    
    Dermot
1252.42I Love Ya' Mammy ............HILL16::BURNSANCL�RFri Aug 06 1993 12:073
    
    And no Danny Doyle in the Jukebox ..
    
1252.43KOALA::HOLOHANFri Aug 06 1993 14:068
 re. .35

  Laurie,
    What kind of man (if I may call you that), gets
  pleasure out of another man's job loss?

                    Mark 
1252.44Get as much pleasure out of this if you can.MACNAS::JDOOLEYOn the wayMon Aug 09 1993 04:276
    It should be noted that 780 people. including Denis and myself will be
    gone by next February in the great Galway Digital Disaster closedown.
    
    Laurie, as a contractor, could also be gone at any time.
    
    Nobodys job is safe, and they are out to get you...........
1252.45Plonker?TINCUP::AGUEDTN-592-4939, 719-598-3498(SSL)Mon Aug 09 1993 21:554
    What's a "plonker"?
    
    -- Jim
    
1252.46PLAYER::BROWNLWhat a week that was!Tue Aug 17 1993 11:124
    Where did I state that I got any pleasure out of any person's
    job-loss?
    
    Laurie.
1252.47NOVA::EASTLANDTue Aug 17 1993 11:204
    
    Personally I derive much pleasure from not having to read phrases like
    "neo-imperialist toadie boot-licking brit" :-) 
    
1252.48Addresses for political prisoners and prisoners of warKOALA::HOLOHANSat Oct 09 1993 23:36728
1252.49HILL16::BURNSANCL�RMon Oct 11 1993 09:3716
    
    
    Thankfully, you can remove one name from this list ....
    
    
    Culbert, Michael             Andersonstown                  life
    
    
    
    
    Michael was released last week.
    
    
    See note 923.7
    
    
1252.50Diplock FrameupsKOALA::HOLOHANFri Jun 17 1994 15:16214
                                *******************

                         Frame-ups of the Diplock system
                              Travesties of justice

EARLIER THIS YEAR, the issue of what have become known as miscarriages of
justice raised its ugly head again with the massive media coverage given to the
acquittal of Paul Hill in Belfast's appeal court for the killing of British
soldier Brian Shaw.

Following on from the well-publicised cases of the Birmingham Six, the
Guildford Four, the Maguires, Judith Ward, the UDR Four, and Nicky Kelly,
a lot of people must have wondered as they watched Paul Hill walk free from
the court, were there not many more similar cases among the nationalist
community in the Six Counties. Within the community that has borne the brunt
of repression and has seen so many of its men and women go to jail, can it
really be true that none of them have been framed in the same way as the
most famous frame-up cases in England?

Have none of them been convicted on the basis of false and perjured evidence
similar to that used against Paul Hill? Have they never been forced to sign
concocted statements?

Of course there are victims of frame-ups in jail in the Six Counties. Many of
them. The RUC has never had any qualms about fitting up an innocent
nationalist.

The Diplock system in essence is a counterinsurgency process. With a corrupt
and brutal police force, a lower standard of evidence required and a
case-hardened judge sitting without a jury, a conviction is much easier to
obtain in a Diplock Court. It is therefore much more difficult to prove a
convicted person innocent.

In order for a conviction to be overturned, an innocent person must furnish
new evidence or discredit the evidence on which they were convicted. This has
proven a difficult problem. For example, in 75-80% of cases it is estimated
that the prosecution case has depended wholly or substantially on
confession evidence.

However, over the last few years a number of events have come together to
change the climate for those campaigning against miscarriages of justice and
to give new hope to innocent people languishing in jail.

The first of these was the emergence of the ESDA testing. ESDA
Electro-Statis Document Analysis is a forensic technique which allows a
scientist to read indentations on paper. It is possible for a person to write

on the top sheet of a writing pad and for a scientist to read the
indentations on the sheet underneath. It is therefore possible to determine
whether RUC interrogation notes have been fabricated or parts of them
rewritten some time after the interrogation. ESDA testing helped secure the
release of the Birmingham Six, the Guildford Four and three of the UDR
Four.

A number of prisoners in Long Kesh have asked the RUC to release their
original interrogation notes to be ESDA tested. The replies have been
devastating to the credibility of the RUC and point towards a massive
cover-up.

The second climate-changing event was the incredible list of innocent people
(mainly in Britain) released over the past two years. After years of often
demoralising work by many dedicated campaigners, the judicial system finally
had to own up to blatant travesties of justice. No longer can campaigners
be dismissed as crypto-Provos who tell outlandish lies when they say that
British justice jails innocent people.

One major lesson from these successful campaigns is that each case must be
fought inch by inch. Even though the system is ultimately at fault,
overturning a conviction is a painstaking legal task in each individual case.
What is also clear, however, is that while the Diplock system remains in
place, such travesties of justice will continue.

A large number of cases from the Six Counties have been taken up by civil
liberties groups and below we highlight a selection of these.

There is a need for public support and widespread publicity for those wrongly
convicted. But for these cases to be properly aired there must be a few
ground rules. Firstly, gone are the days of behind-the-scenes influence
and cocktail party contacts favoured by figures in the Catholic church, the
SDLP and the nationalist middle class. Paul Hill, the Birmingham Six and
others know the bankruptcy of that approach. Only through maximum support
and publicity will justice be done.

Secondly, there needs to be some kind of impartial, independent body set up
to investigate travesties of justice like those mentioned below.

The following list of cases alleging that a miscarriage of justice has
occurred was given to the Sinn Fein Prisoner of War Department by the
republican prisoners in the H-Blocks at Long Kesh. Sinn Fein is not asking
people to automatically believe that these men are innocent just because they
say so. What they are asking journalists, civil liberties groups,
politicians, the clergy, trade unionists, women's groups and others to do is
to begin seriously to call for an independent tribunal where the truth or
otherwise of these allegations of a miscarriage of justice can be tested and
then everyone will be able to examine the evidence for themselves and draw
their own conclusions.

Barry Murray (Fermanagh) - Sentence: 18 years. Convicted solely on contested
'oral admission'. ESDA tests proved RUC rewrote interview notes. At least one

RUC man involved was also involved in the UDR Four case. Requested further
tests on all interview notes and informed by RUC that these and court
exhibits had 'gone missing'. He lost his appeal.

Michael Hillen, Seamus Mathers (Newry) - Sentence: 21 years. Convicted on
basis of forensic evidence. At trial serious irregularities regarding
forensic procedures were uncovered. Evidence such as photographs, vital to
their defence, were withheld.

Ned Maguire (Belfast) - Sentence: Life. Recently released on life licence
after serving 17 years. Conviction based on dubious and conflicting
identification evidence. Accused of shooting dead a judge. A girl
witness identified him as the person running away from the scene. This
witness had earlier picked out two other men (who had alibis) as being the
person responsible for the killing.

Gerry Magee (Antrim) - Sentence: 20 years. Convicted solely on basis of
signed RUC statement. Statement obtained through use of brutality. At trial,
ESDA tests proved rewriting of important interview notes and false
authentication of them by a senior RUC officer. The two RUC men involved in
this rewriting were proved, on an earlier occasion, via ESDA, to have
rewritten interview notes in the case of Liam McGrath. This led to
McGrath's acquittal.

Ronan McCartan, Gary McKay (Tyrone) - Sentence: 12 and 10 years respectively.

Convicted after a Diplock court judge drew inference of guilt from the fact
that both men maintained their 'right to silence' while under RUC
interrogation. This aspect was used to bolster a nonexistent case. Both men
were arrested along with another man who was forensically linked to an arms
find. There was no evidence to link Ronan or Gary to this find. The judge
used inference and their 'association' with this man to effect a
conviction.

Kevin Murray (Strabane). Sentence: 18 years. Forensic evidence claimed to
have linked him to a car which the prosecution asserted was used in an
attempt on the life of a UDR soldier. When the forensic evidence was
largely discredited, the trial judge relied on the fact that Kevin exercised
his 'right to silence' while in RUC custody in order to convict. A court
appeal, and an appeal to the British House of Lords, both failed.

Edward McClelland (Armagh). Sentence: Life. Convicted of involvement in the
killings of three RUC officers. Conviction was based solely on concocted
uncorroborated oral admissions. He claims that discredited RUC detectives
involved in the UDR 4 case 'verballed' him. When he applied for an ESDA test
on case papers he was informed that interview notes were 'missing'.

Christopher Walsh (Belfast) - Sentence: 14 years. After being arrested by
members of a British army patrol, close to where a 'coffee jar' bomb was
found, Christopher was convicted on the basis of lies told by the
arresting soldiers, and his failure to explain his circumstances early
enough, during RUC interrogation.

Peter Markey (Newry) - Sentence: Life. Convicted on a 'verbal' statement,
made under duress, 'admitting' peripheral involvement in a bombing in which
a security guard and RUC man died. This 'admission' was obtained after being
told that his pregnant girlfriend would be charged.

Brian McLarnon (Tyrone) - Sentence: Ten years. Convicted of possession of
weapons after calling at a house in which firearms were found concealed.
An otherwise unsustainable prosecution succeeded when the trial judge used
Brian's 'silence' while in RUC custody as evidence against him.

Bobby Fitzsimmons (Belfast) Sentence: 20 years. Convicted of possession of a
'coffee jar' bomb on basis of having been arrested in the vicinity of the
bomb and having decided not to cooperate with the RUC during interrogation.
Arresting officers claimed to have seen him act suspiciously. He disputes
their evidence of ''identification''.

Thomas O'Dwyer (Belfast) - Sentence: 22 years. Convicted on a number of
charges including attempted murder on basis of extracted 'confessions' by
use of RUC ill-treatment, injuries, including damage to this hand, was noted
by a doctor. At trial, the judge described the injuries as ''inconclusive''
and stated that they may have been self-inflicted.

Edmund Harkin (Derry) - Sentence: Life. Released in 1992 after serving life
sentence. Attempted to have ESDA tests done on 'confessions' which were the
sole basis of his conviction Informed by RUC that these notes cannot be
produced. His statements were obtained by use of severe ill-treatment which
was documented by two doctors, his family, and a friend who saw him in
custody.

Roy McCool (Derry) - Sentence: Convicted on the basis of conflicting
forensic and identification evidence (ID) of running from a van containing
mortars after a high-speed chase involving the British army. It is contended
that a forensic scientist testimony cut right across the prosecutions
assertion that Roy was the front-seat passenger in the van. This evidence
was stated in court. The trial judge glossed over this evidence and three
appeal court judges chose to ignore it.

Ciaran McAllister, Danny Pettigrew, Anthony Garland, Michael Hugh Beck, Hugh
McLaughlin, Stephen McMullan, Brendan McCrory (Belfast)
(The Ballymurphy Seven). In August 1991, a number of young people from the
greater Ballymurphy area of West Belfast were arrested and interrogated in
connection with an IRA attack. The youths, who ranged in age from 17 to 21
were taken to Castlereagh Interrogation Centre in Belfast and held for up to
six days where four of them alleged that they were forcibly coerced,
through mental and physical torture to sign written confessions prepared for
them by their interrogators. They were denied access to lawyers for the
first 72 hours.

The arresting offices made no attempt to collect forensic evidence and there
were no material witnesses. Among those also arrested at that time was Damien
Austin, whose case received international attention when Amnesty
International issued its first ever 'Urgent Action' notice in respect for
someone in Ireland. An 'Urgent Action' notice is only made by Amnesty when
they believe that someone is in imminent danger of torture or assassination.

The Diplock system was twice discredited in the Ballymurphy Seven case this
year when both Brendan McCrory and Ciaran McAllister were released by Belfast

Crown Curt. Charges against both were dropped after the RUC 'evidence' was
exposed as concocted.

1252.51probably the sunday sportSSMPRD::FSPAINI&#039;m the King of Wishful ThinkingTue Jun 21 1994 07:375
    re -1 
    
    You have not included the source for this report so I'll take it that
    you made this up yourself and will proceed quickly to the NEXT/UNSEEN
    key . 
1252.52BALLYMURPHY 7 BEGIN FOURTH YEAR OF WRONGFUL IMPRISONMENTKOALA::HOLOHANTue Jul 26 1994 12:3058
                                                     IRISH  ACTION  COALITION

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:                            Press Contact:
                                                                     James
Mullin
July 20th, 1994                                               757 Paddock Path
                                                                     Moorestown,
NJ 08057
                                                                     (609)
231-8606


            BALLYMURPHY 7 BEGIN FOURTH YEAR OF WRONGFUL IMPRISONMENT;
                LONGEST TIME 'ON REMAND' IN CRUMLIN ROAD JAIL HISTORY !

The five remaining members of the Ballymurphy 7 will begin their fourth year in
prison, without benefit of bail or trial, on August 2nd, 1994. The prosecution's
"case" does not rely on forensic evidence or eyewitness testimony: it rests
soley on "confessions" beaten out of the accused at the infamous Castlereagh
Interrogation Center. The boys were 17 when they were told that if they did not
confess, their family's name would be released to loyalist paramilitaries.

Friends of the Voice of the Innocent (Ballymurphy 7) will commerate this
deplorable anniversary by demonstrating in front of the British Consulate in New
York on August 2nd from noon to 2:00PM. The Consulate is located at 845 Third
Avenue., (Between 51st and 52nd Streets) in Manhattan.

Sir Alistair Hunter is HM Consul General. He can be reached at (212) 745-0200.
His FAX # is (212)745-0456.

In addition to picketing and leafleting at the Consulate , a delegation from the
Lawyers Alliance for Justice in Ireland will present a documentation of human
rights abuses in the Ballymurphy 7 case to the Consul General.

At the same time, a Congressional delegation will present a letter of protest to
Sir Robin Renwick, the British Ambassador, at the British Embassy in Washington,
DC. Your Representative may sign on by contacting the office of Robert Menendez:
(202) 225-7919.

Contact Sir Robin yourself by calling (202) 462-1340, or send him a FAX at (202)
898-4255.

You may also write letters of protest to:

Lord Chief Justice Brian Hutton, Royal Court of Justice, Chichester Street,
Belfast BT13JF.  Phone: 011 44 232 235 111

Sir Patrick Mayhew, c/o Northern Ireland Office, Stormont Castle, Belfast.
Phone:  011 232 520 700,
FAX:  011 44 232  768  938.

CONTACTS:

Lawyers Alliance:  Ed Lynch (201) 627-8511
Voice of the Innocent: Jean Forest (201659-3085
Irish Action Coalition: James Mullin (609) 231-8606

1252.53Patrick McLaughlinKOALA::HOLOHANThu Jul 28 1994 14:2589
from THE IRISH PEOPLE
7/26/94


1. Patrick McLaughlin - Another Innocent Victim of the Crown
                         by Sandy Boyer

     When Paul Hill walked free from that Belfast courtroom many
believed that the era when the British judicial system framed
innocent Irish people was over. After all, the "Guildford Four,"
the "Birmingham Six" and even Judith ward had been set free.

     But Patrick McLaughlin from Derry City is still serving a
life sentence in a British prison for an offense he did not
commit. He was convicted of conspiring to plant an INLA bomb
which never exploded outside the Chelsea army barracks in London.


                            DEPENDS

     The case against Patrick McLaughlin depends entirely on
three things:

1. The crown claims that his fingerprint was on a plastic garbage
bag they found surrounding the bomb, 2. A puzzle book with his
name in it was found in the van the crown say transported the
bomb and 3. The allegation that he told a crown officer that he
knew the bomb was being made at a party he attended the night
before it was planted. This may seem like a fairly strong case
but it falls apart completely the minute it is examined in any
detail.

     The fingerprint seemed like very strong evidence. But when
they got to court the crown could not even show the jury the
place on the garbage bag that they had lifted this fingerprint.
They claimed the identification sticker had been "lost."  So we
have only the word of the British crown that it was ever there at
all.

                             PLANTED

     Patrick McLaughlin says the crown planted the puzzle book in
the van. It was one of several with his name in it that he left
in the apartment where the party was held at which the police
claim the bomb was assembled. It strains credulity to  think that
an "INLA bomber" on his way to plant a bomb would conveniently
leave  a book with his name on it behind.

     The conversation where Patrick McLaughlin told a crown
officer about knowing the bomb was being made at the party just
never happened. This British constable assigned to interrogate a
suspect mysteriously never bothered to get this admission down on
paper or even ask who was assembling the bomb. Just as
mysteriously, his partner, who was present throughout the
interrogation, never heard the conversation. He testified at the
trial that he didn't remember McLaughlin saying anything about a
bomb being made.

                              OPEN

     Patrick McLaughlin hardly fitted the profile of someone on a
bombing mission. He lived in a church run hostel for Irish
people, signing in with his own name. He also signed on for the
dole, again, in his own name. Finally Patrick McLaughlin became
so broke that his wife had to come over from Derry
to bring him the money to go home. From the time he returned to
Derry until he was arrested he lived perfectly openly, signing on
regularly for the dole.

     In the face of all this it was only extreme pressure fro the
judge that secured a majority, 10 to 2, guilty verdict. He
introduced a highly emotional account of an IRA bombing where six
people were killed which had nothing to do with the case. When
the jury deadlocked he told them urgently that they had to reach
a verdict because a new trial would be "a terrible waste of tax
payers' money." Two jurors wept openly when the verdict was
announced.

     The INLA has repeatedly stated that Patrick McLaughlin was
never one of their members. They deny he had anything to do with
the Chelsea barracks bomb. Patrick McLaughlin is still
proclaiming that he is innocent. He is supported by his family
and friends in Derry who know that he was framed as certainly as
the "Guildford Four" and the "Birmingham Six" were framed. They
have formed a committee, The Friends of Patrick McLaughlin, to
work for his release. You can contact them at 1 West End Park,
Derry BT489JF or call (504) 268846.


1252.54Ballymurphy SevenKOALA::HOLOHANTue Aug 09 1994 13:38103


                                *******************

                                  The Guardian
                                  August  4, 1994

                       IMPRISONED SEVEN DISPUTE CONFESSIONS;
A group of Belfast youths have spent three years in jail accused of involvement

in an IRA attack without coming to trial. David Sharrock reports



    Tony Garland began his fourth year of imprisonment this week for a crime he

says he did not commit and of which he has not been found guilty. The only
evidence against him is a confession which he says was beaten out of him.

    Just 20 years old, he is bitter that he has grown from a boy into a man in
jail. There is no consolation in the fact that he has shared the experience
with six other young men from Ballymurphy in west Belfast.

   The case of the Ballymurphy Seven began with an IRA "coffee-jar bomb" attack
on a joint army-Royal Ulster Constabulary foot patrol, Mr Garland's mother,
Josie, recalled yesterday.

   "The people that did the attack at the top of the crescent ran down the side
of our house and out the back over the fence.  Within minutes about eight
soldiers and police were in our house. Tony answered the door and they searched

the place and left.

   "They were back again in 10 minutes and away again. Then back again an hour
later. This time they took Tony away."

   Mrs Garland did not see him again until the following Thursday. During seven
days of questioning at the Castlereagh holding centre he had been charged with
attempted murder. "He was gaunt and just lifeless, he'd lost a stone and a half.

I said to him, 'In the name of God Tony, what did you sign to get like that?'
and he said, 'Mummy, you don't know what they do to you in here. I would have
signed anything to get out of this place'."



    In all, seven boys were arrested, two of them four days after the IRA
attack.  The others were friends of Tony's who had been hanging around outside
his house while it was being searched. Three years on, the only evidence
against any of them is a series of disputed signed confessions.

    "The soldiers and police actually saw who did it, but as far as they're
concerned if they can't get the right people they'll get someone else," Mrs
Garland said. "If they had any concrete evidence on them it would have come to
court long, long ago."

    Even by the standards of the  Northern Ireland  judicial system, in which
trial delays of up to two years are commonplace for terrorism-related offences,

the case of the seven is unusual. It has been complicated by the number of
defendants and the fact that defence and prosecution lawyers are fighting every

inch of its progress.

    The case is currently at the stage of a voir dire - a preliminary trial
testing the admissibility of the confessions. One of the seven was acquitted
earlier this year because of his "mental state" during detention in Castlereagh.

Mr Justice Brian Kerr told Ciaran McAllister, aged 19: "I hope you can put the
past behind you and profit from your experience."

   "How can he say that when they've just wasted the best years of their lives,
locked up for 22 hours a day?" asked Mrs Garland. Her son had been training to
become a joiner. "Nobody's going to give him a job now, even if he is
acquitted."

    When the boys began their imprisonment a request that they be held at a
young offenders' centre was rejected because of the seriousness of the charges.

At the Crumlin Road jail they requested a transfer to the republican wing
because of threats made against them. They are now in the Maze.

    Mrs Garland and the other mothers fret the effect of their incarceration.
"You don't know what they've picked up in there, what's going through their
minds. They've been institutionalised by it."

    A support group for the seven has attracted considerable publicity in the
United States. The case has also focused attention on the issue of lengthy
detention on the basis of controversial confession evidence alone, and the
RUC's refusal to record police interviews.

    Six of the seven were offered plea-bargaining style deals at Christmas, in
which they were promised their release on the basis of a five-year jail term in

return for guilty pleas. All refused, in spite of facing sentences of up to 14
years.

    "It's bad enough that they've been held for so long for something the RUC
know they never did, and people's attitude in future is always going to be,
Well, you didn't get arrested for nothing. But they're going to come out as
innocent," Mrs Garland said.

1252.55A letter to John Major from U.S. CongressmenKOALA::HOLOHANMon Aug 15 1994 12:3295
from An Phoblacht/Republican News
August 4, 1994

                               ********************

a letter to John Major


John Major
Prime Minister
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
10 Downing Street
London, England

Dear Mr. Prime Minister:

On August 22, 1994 the case of the "Ballymurphy Seven" will belatedly resume
in Belfast, Northern Ireland. Seven young men from the greater Ballymurphy
area of West Belfast, ages 16 through 21 at the time of arrest, are apparent
victims of a miscarriage of justice perpetrated by the British system
operating in Ireland.

Seven of the boys were arrested in connection with a coffee-jar bomb attack
on security forces in August of 1991. No security forces were hurt, but a
civilian passerby was injured.

There are no eyewitnesses to identify the boys and no forensic evidence
exists to connect them to the incident. The boys continue to insist that the
only evidence were forced, coerced confessions. Amnesty International
notes concerns that all of the young men's confessions were obtained only
as a result of coercion and ill-treatment by the Royal Ulster Constabulary
(RUC) during interrogations at Castlereagh prison in Belfast. One boy claims
that he "confessed" when security officers threatened to kill his family.

These are not isolated instances. The Department of State's Country Reports
for Human Rights Practices for 1993 notes that British courts on several
occasions have denied citizens the right to a fair trial. A review of
individual cases ordered by the Office of the Home Secretary found that:
"...[the] lower courts often relied too heavily on uncorroborated confessions
and assumed the integrity of police was unreproachable; appellate court
judges tended to accept lower court rulings without closely examining
procedural flaws and new evidence and occasionally displayed open hostility
to the defense..."

Fortunately, two of the seven boys have been released after they were found
innocent in court for lack of idence. Ciaren McAllister was freed on bail
in December of 1992, and on May 24, 1994 was acquitted by Justice Kerr of
the Belfast Crown Court of charges of attempted murder. Brendan McRory was
also found innocent after Justice Kerr ruled his confession inadmissible due
to the circumstances of the interrogation.

Unfortunately, five of the boys remain in prison. They have been hold without
bail since August of 1991. August 2, 1994 will mark the third year and the
beginning of the fourth year of their detention. This is the longest period
any unconvicted suspect has been held on remand in the history of the Crumlin
Road Prison in Belfast.

We urge you to take the following measures:  expedite the pretrial hearing
process; determine whether the basis for prosecutions is adequate and the
trial is conducted in conformity with international judicial fair standards;
put an end to the routine denial of immediate legal assistance to Catholic
suspects in Northern Ireland, including having suspects' attorneys present
during interrogation; and permit video- and audio-taping during
interrogation. These modest measures would assist the British Government
in making credible their claim that justice is apportioned fairly in
Northern Ireland.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if we may be of assistance in this matter.

Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely yours,

Robert Menendez, Member of Congress
Thomas J. Manton, Member of Congress
Benjamin A. Gilman, Member of Congress
Hamilton Fish, Member of Congress
Peter T. King, Member of Congress
Richard Neal, Member of Congress
Christopher H. Smith, Member of Congress
George Brown, Jr., Member of Congress
Herb Klein, Member of Congress
Gary L. Ackerman, Member of Congress
Frank Pallone, Jr., Member of Congress
David A. Levy, Member of Congress
Martin T. Meehan, Member of Congress
Joseph P. Kennedy, II, Member of Congress
Eliot L. Engel, Member of Congress
Ronald K. Machtley, Member of Congress
Peter Blute, Member of Congress
Robert A. Borski, Member of Congress
Howard L. Berman, Member of Congress
William O. Lipinski, Member of Congress

1252.56Republcan Roll of Honor/ Names and addresses of prisonersKOALA::HOLOHANMon Aug 29 1994 13:101025


                     **Republican Roll of Honour**
     An Phoblacht/Republican News      Compiled April 5 1993

BELFAST BRIGADE

1st Battalion

Vol Tony Henderson      Apr. 4th        1971
 Vol Terence McDermott   Oct. 2nd        1971
 Vol Martin Forsythe     Oct. 24th       1971
 Vol Tony Jordan         June 28th       1972
 Vol John Finucane       June 28th       1972
 Vol Francis Hall        Aug. 30th       1973
 Vol Gerard Fennell      Nov. 8th        1974
 Vol John Rooney         Nov. 5th        1974
 Vol Sean McDermott      Apr. 5th        1976
 Vol Thomas Kane         July 6th        1976
 Vol Danny Lennon        Aug. 10th       1976
 Vol Brendan O'Callaghan Apr. 23rd       1977
 Vol Dan Turley          June 9th        1983
 Vol Jim McKernan        Sept. 14th      1986
 Vol Margaret McArdle    June 7th        1987
 Vol Kevin McCracken     Mar. 14th       1988
 Vol Caoimhin Mac Bradaigh       Mar. 16th       1988
 Vol Patricia Black      Nov. 15th       1991
 Vol Frankie Ryan        Nov. 15th       1991


2nd Battalion

Vol Liam McParland      Nov. 6th        1969
 Vol Jimmy Steele        Aug. 9th        1970
 Vol Peter Blake         Oct. 27th       1970
 Vol Tom McGoldrick      Oct. 27th       1970
 Vol Charles Hughes      Mar. 8th        1971
 Vol Seamus Simpson      Aug. 11th       1971
 Vol Danny O'Neill       Jan. 7th        1972
 Vol Albert Kavanagh     Mar. 4th        1972
 Vol Gerard Crossan      Mar. 9th        1972
 Vol Tony Lewis          Mar. 9th        1972
 Vol Sean Johnston       Mar. 9th        1972
 Vol Tom McCann          Mar. 9th        1972
 Vol Patrick Campbell    Mar. 25th       1972
 Vol Robert McCrudden    Aug. 3rd        1972
 Vol Michael Clarke      Aug. 11th       1972
 Vol Jimmy Quigley       Sept. 29th      1972
 Vol Daniel McAreavey    Oct. 6th        1972
 Vol Patrick Maguire     Oct.10th        1972
 Vol John Donaghy        Oct. 10th       1972
 Vol Joseph McKinney     Oct. 10th       1972
 Vol Stan Carberry       Nov. 13th       1972
 Vol Francis Liggett     Jan. 18th       1973
 Vol Edward O'Rawe       Apr.12th        1973
 Vol Patrick Mulvenna    Aug. 31st       1973
 Vol James Bryson        Sept. 22nd      1973
 Vol Martin Skillen      Aug. 3rd        1974
 Vol John Kelly          Jan. 21st       1975
 Vol John Stone          Jan. 21st       1975
 Vol Paul Fox            Dec. 1st        1975
 Vol Sean Bailey         Feb. 13th       1976
 Vol James McGrillen     Feb. 15th       1976
 Vol Paul Marlowe        Oct. 16th       1976
 Vol Tommy Tolan         July 27th       1977
 Vol Billy Carson        Apr. 25th       1979
 Vol Kevin Delaney       Jan. 17th       1980
 Vol Terence O'Neill     July 1st        1980
 Vol Liam Hannaway       Feb.  2nd       1981
 Vol James Burns         Feb. 23rd       1981
 Vol Tony Campbell       Aug. 4th        1985
 Vol Brian Dempsey       June 25th       1986
 Vol Finbarr McKenna     May 2nd         1987


3rd Battalion

Vol Henry McIlhone      June 27th       1970
 Vol Michael Kane        Sept. 4th       1970
 Vol James Saunders      Feb. 6th        1971
 Vol Billy Reid          May 15th        1971
 Vol Patrick McAdorey    Aug. 9th        1971
 Vol Tony Nolan          Dec. 8th        1971
 Vol Gerald McDade       Dec. 21st       1971
 Vol Joseph Cunningham   Feb. 10th       1972
 Vol Gerard Bell         Feb. 21st       1972
 Vol Gerard Steele       Feb. 21st       1972
 Vol Robert Dorrian      Feb. 21st       1972
 Vol Joseph Magee        Feb. 21st       1972
 Vol Samuel Hughes       Apr. 7th        1972
 Vol Charles McCrystal   Apr. 7th        1972
 Vol John McErlean       Apr. 7th        1972
 Vol Edward McDonnell    May 28th        1972
 Vol Jackie McIlhone     May 28th        1972
 Vol Joseph Fitzsimmons  May 28th        1972
 Vol Martin Engelen      May 28th        1972
 Vol Louis Scullion      July 14th       1972
 Vol James Reid          July 15th       1972
 Vol Joseph Downey       July 21st       1972
 Vol Seamus Cassidy      July 28th       1972
 Vol James Sloan         Feb. 3rd        1973
 Vol Tony Campbell       Feb. 4th        1973
 Vol James McCann        Feb. 4th        1973
 Vol Patrick McCabe      Mar. 27th       1973
 Vol Brian Smyth         Apr. 17th       1973
 Vol Sean McKee          May 18th        1973
 Vol Frederick Leonard   May 7th         1974
 Vol Seamus McCusker     Oct. 31st       1975
 Vol Martin McDonagh     Jan. 13th       1976
 Vol Frank Fitzsimmons   Oct. 16th       1976
 Vol Joseph Surgenor     Oct. 16th       1976
 Vol Trevor McKibbin     Apr. 17th       1977
 Vol Jackie McMahon      Jan. 18th       1978
 Vol Jackie Mailey       June 21st       1978
 Vol Denis Brown         June 21st       1978
 Vol Jim Mulvenna        June 21st       1978
 Vol Laurence Montgomery Jan. 5th        1979
 Vol Frankie Donnelly    Jan 5th         1979
 Vol Martin McKenna      Oct. 23rd       1979
 Vol Laurence Marley     Apr. 2nd        1987
 Vol Brendan Davison     July 25th       1988
 Vol Pearse Jordan       Nov 25th        1992
 Vol Thomas Begley       Oct 23rd        1993


CLARE

Vol Hugh Hehir  May 6th 1988


CORK

Vol Tony Ahern          May 10th        1973
 Vol Dermot Crowley      June 25th       1973


CUMANN NA mBAN
 BELFAST

Vol Dorothy Maguire       Oct. 23rd       1971
 Vol Maura Meehan          Oct. 23rd       1971
 Vol Anne Parker           Aug. 11th       1972
 Vol Anne Marie Petticrew  Sept. 1st       1973
 Vol Bridie Dolan          Feb. 9th        1975
 Vol Laura Crawford        Dec. 1st        1975
 Vol Rosemary Bleakley     Jan. 13th       1976

DOWNPATRICK

Vol Vivien Fitzsimmons    Feb. 10th       1973

NEWCASTLE

Vol Pauline Kane          July 21st       1973

PORTADOWN

Vol Julie Dougan          July 8th        1972

DERRY BRIGADE

Vol Thomas McCool         June 27th       1970
 Vol Joseph Coyle          June 27th       1970
 Vol Thomas Carlin         July 8th        1970
 Vol Eamonn Lafferty       Aug. 18th       1971
 Vol James O'Hagan         Aug. 19th       1971
 Vol Colm Keenan           Mar. 14th       1972
 Vol Eugene McGillan       Mar. 14th       1972
 Vol John Starrs           May 13th        1972
 Vol Seamus Bradley        July 31st       1972
 Vol Michael Quigley       Sept.17th       1972
 Vol John Brady            Nov. 28th       1972
 Vol James Carr            Nov. 28th       1972
 Vol James McDaid          Dec. 29th       1972
 Vol Joe Walker            Dec. 3rd        1973
 Vol Gerard Craig          June 24th       1974
 Vol David Russell         June 24th       1974
 Vol Michael Meenan        Oct. 30th       1974
 Vol John McDaid           Dec. 7th        1974
 Vol Ethel Lynch           Dec. 7th        1974
 Vol Jim Gallagher         May 17th        1976
 Vol Brian Coyle           June 30th       1976
 Vol Pat Harkin                            1976
 Vol Denis Heaney          June 10th       1978
 Vol Patrick Duffy         Nov. 24th       1978
 Vol George McBrearty      May 28th        1981
 Vol Charles Maguire       May 28th        1981
 Vol Eamonn Bradley        Aug. 25th       1982
 Vol Phil O'Donnell        Dec. 24th       1982
 Vol Richard Quigley       Apr. 21st       1984
 Vol Ciaran Fleming        Dec. 2nd        1984
 Vol Danny Doherty         Dec. 6th        1984
 Vol Willie Fleming        Dec. 6th        1984
 Vol Charles English       Aug. 6th        1985
 Vol Tony Gough            Feb. 22nd       1986
 Vol Philip McFadden       May  31st       1986
 Vol Patrick O'Hagan       Aug. 9th        1986
 Vol Gerard Logue          Mar. 22nd       1987
 Vol Paddy Deery           Oct. 28th       1987
 Vol Eddie McSheffrey      Oct. 28th       1987


COUNTY DERRY

Vol Martin Lee          Dec. 18th       1971
 Vol John Bateson        Dec. 18th       1971
 Vol James Sheridan      Dec. 18th       1971
 Vol Danny McMullan      Feb. 7th        1982
 Vol Antoine
 Mac Giolla Bhrighde     Dec. 2nd        1984
 Vol James Kelly         Mar. 25th       1993


DONEGAL

Vol Peter McElcar       July 17th       1976
 Vol Raymond McLaughlin  Sept. 9th       1985

DUBLIN
 Vol Patrick Cannon      July 17th       1976
 Vol Colm Daltun         Jan. 15th       1983
 Vol Mick Timothy        Jan. 26th       1985
 Vol Christy Harford     May 5th         1992

ENGLAND
 Vol Michael Gaughan
 (Parkhurst Prison)      June 3rd        1974
 Vol James McDade        Nov. 14th       1974
 Vol Brian Fox           Dec. 21st       1974
 Vol Francis Stagg
 (Wakefield Prison)      Feb. 12th       1976

FIANNA EIREANN
 Fian Gerald McAuley     Aug. 15th       1969
 Fian Michael Sloan      Jan. 11th       1972
 Fian Eamon McCormick    Jan. 16th       1972
 Fian Gerry Donaghy      Jan. 30th       1972
 Fian David McAuley      Feb. 19th       1972
 Fian Sean O'Riordan     Mar. 23rd       1972
 Fian Michael Magee      May 13th        1972
 Fian Joseph Campbell    June 11th       1972
 Fian John Dougal        July 9th        1972
 Fian Tobias Molloy      July 16th       1972
 Fian Joseph McComiskey  Sept. 20th      1972
 Fian Bernard Fox        Dec. 4th        1972
 Fian Sean Hughes        Dec. 4th        1972
 Fian Michael Marley     Nov. 24th       1973
 Fian Robert Allsopp     Mar. 23rd       1975
 Fian Kevin McAuley      Nov. 6th        1975
 Fian James O'Neill      Feb. 12th       1976
 Fian Paul McWilliams    Aug. 9th        1977
 Fian John Dempsey       July 8th        1981


GHQ STAFF

Vol Jack McCabe         Dec. 27th       1971
 Vol Thomas O'Donnell    May 17th        1973
 Vol Mairead Farrell     Mar. 6th        1988
 Vol Dan McCann          Mar. 6th        1988
 Vol Sean Savage         Mar. 6th        1988


LAOIS

Vol Michael Motley      June 12th       1993


LIMERICK

Vol Patrick Sheehy      Jan. 2nd        1991


LONG KESH

Vol Francis Dodds       Sept. 9th       1973
 Vol Teddy Campbell      May 3rd         1974
 Vol Patrick Teer        July 2nd        1974
 Vol Hugh Coney          Nov. 6th        1974
 Vol James Moyne         Jan. 13th       1975
 Vol Henry Heaney        June 4th        1978
 Vol Sean Bateson        June 7th        1990


H-BLOCK MARTYRS

Vol Bobby Sands           May 5th         1981
 Vol Francis Hughes        May 12th        1981
 Vol Raymond McCreesh      May 21st        1981
 Vol Patsy O'Hara (INLA)   May 21st        1981
 Vol Joe McDonnell         July 8th        1981
 Vol Martin Hurson         July 13th       1981
 Vol Kevin Lynch (INLA)    Aug. 1st        1981
 Vol Kieran Doherty        Aug. 2nd        1981
 Vol Thomas McElwee        Aug. 8th        1981
 Vol Mickey Devine (INLA)  Aug. 20th       1981



MONAGHAN

Vol Sean McKenna        June 5th        1975
 Vol Peadar Mohan        Feb. 1st        1981


NEWRY

Vol Colm Murtagh        Aug. 9th        1972
 Vol Patrick Hughes      Aug. 22nd       1972
 Vol Oliver Rowntree     Aug. 22nd       1972
 Vol Noel Madden         Aug. 22nd       1972
 Vol Brendan Quinn       Dec. 24th       1973
 Vol Edward Grant        Dec. 24th       1973
 Vol Patrick McKeown     Aug. 27th       1974
 Vol Michael Hughes      Oct. 18th       1974
 Vol Robert Carr         Apr. 1st        1980
 Vol Brendan Watters     Aug. 8th        1984


NORTH ANTRIM

Vol Phelim Grant        Feb. 5th        1972
 Vol Charles McCann      Feb. 5th        1972
 Vol Henry Hogan         Feb. 21st       1984
 Vol Declan Martin       Feb. 21st       1984
 Vol Peter Rodden        Dec. 7th        1987
 Vol Gerard Casey        Apr. 4th        1989


NORTH ARMAGH

Vol Michael Crossey     Nov. 22nd       1971
 Vol Charles Agnew       Dec. 17th       1971
 Vol John Francis Green  Jan. 10th       1975
 Vol Terry Brady         Dec 5th         1975
 Vol David Kennedy       Dec. 10th       1975
 Vol Sean Burns          Nov. 11th       1982
 Vol Gervase McKerr      Nov. 11th       1982
 Vol Eugene Toman        Nov. 11th       1982
 Vol Eddie Dynes         Mar. 1st        1983
 Vol Sean McIlvenna      Dec. 17th       1984


PORTLAOISE

Vol Thomas Smith        Mar. 17th       1975
 Vol Brendan Seery       Feb. 19th       1992


SLIGO

Vol Kevin Coen          Jan. 20th       1975
 Vol Joseph MacManus     Feb. 5th        1992


SOUTH ARMAGH

Vol Michael McVerry     Nov. 15th       1973
 Vol Sean Boyle          Feb. 1st        1975
 Vol Francis Jordan      June 4th        1975
 Vol Sean Campbell       Dec. 6th        1975
 Vol James Lochrie       Dec. 6th        1975
 Vol Peter Cleary        Apr. 15th       1976
 Vol Seamus Harvey       Jan. 16th       1977
 Vol Peadar McElvanna    June 9th        1979
 Vol Brendan Burns       Feb. 29th       1988
 Vol Brendan Moley       Feb. 29th       1988


SOUTH FERMANAGH

Vol Louis Leonard       Dec. 15th       1972
 Vol Seamus McElwain     Apr. 26th       1986


SOUTH DOWN

Vol Peter McNulty         Jan. 26th       1972
 Vol James Carlin          Aug. 26th       1972
 Vol Martin Curran         Aug. 26th       1972
 Vol Leo O'Hanlon          Feb. 10th       1973
 Vol Francis Rice          May 18th        1973
 Vol Alphonsus Cunningham  July 21st       1973
 Vol Paul Magorrian        Aug. 14th       1974
 Vol Colum Marks           Apr. 10th       1991


TYRONE

Vol Denis Quinn          July 3rd        1972
 Vol Hugh Heron           Oct. 16th       1972
 Vol John Patrick Mullan  Oct. 16th       1972
 Vol Eugene Devlin        Dec. 27th       1972
 Vol Kevin Kilpatrick     May 13th        1973
 Vol Sean Loughran        June 25th       1973
 Vol Patrick Carty        June 25th       1973
 Vol Gerard McGlynn       Aug. 11th       1973
 Vol Seamus Harvey        Aug. 11th       1973
 Vol Daniel McAnallen     Aug. 16th       1973
 Vol Patrick Quinn        Aug. 16th       1973
 Vol Desmond Morgan       Nov. 26th       1973
 Vol Jim McGinn           Dec. 15th       1973
 Vol Patrick McDonald     Mar. 15th       1974
 Vol Kevin Murray         Mar. 15th       1974
 Vol Eugene Martin        May 13th        1974
 Vol Sean McKearney       May 13th        1974
 Vol Paul Duffy           Feb. 26th       1978
 Vol Brian Campbell       Dec. 4th        1983
 Vol Colm McGirr          Dec. 4th        1983
 Vol William Price        July 13th       1984
 Vol Charlie Breslin      Feb. 23rd       1985
 Vol David Devine         Feb. 23rd       1985
 Vol Michael Devine       Feb. 23rd       1985
 Vol Declan Arthurs       May 8th         1987
 Vol Seamus Donnelly      May 8th         1987
 Vol Tony Gormley         May 8th         1987
 Vol Eugene Kelly         May 8th         1987
 Vol Paddy Kelly          May 8th         1987
 Vol Jim Lynagh           May 8th         1987
 Vol Padraig McKearney    May 8th         1987
 Vol Gerard O'Callaghan   May 8th         1987
 Vol Seamus Woods         July 7th        1988
 Vol Brian Mullin         Aug. 30th       1988
 Vol Gerard Harte         Aug. 30th       1988
 Vol Martin Harte         Aug. 30th       1988
 Vol James Joseph Connolly       Feb. 6th        1989
 Vol Liam Ryan            Nov. 29th       1989
 Vol Dessie Grew          Oct. 9th        1990
 Vol Martin McCaughey     Oct. 9th        1990
 Vol Noel Wilkinson       Mar. 3rd        1991
 Vol John Quinn           Mar. 3rd        1991
 Vol Malcolm Nugent       Mar. 3rd        1991
 Vol Dwayne O'Donnell     Mar. 3rd        1991
 Vol Tony Doris           June 3rd        1991
 Vol Lawrence McNally     June 3rd        1991
 Vol Pete Ryan            June 3rd        1991
 Vol Danny McCauley       June 4th        1991
 Vol Sean O'Farrell       Feb. 16th       1992
 Vol Kevin Barry O'Donnell       Feb. 16th       1992
 Vol Patrick Vincent     Feb. 16th       1992
 Vol Peter Clancy        Feb. 16th       1992


SINN FEIN

Jim Murphy               Apr. 24th       1974
 Paul Best                Feb. 18th       1976
 Colm Mulgrew             June 5th        1976
 Noel Jenkinson (Leicester Prison)       Oct. 9th        1976
 Maire Drumm              Oct. 28th       1976
 Sean O Conaill (Parkhurst Prison)       Oct. 1st        1977
 Peter Corrigan           Oct. 25th       1982
 Jeff McKenna             Nov. 8th        1982
 Paddy Brady              Nov. 16th       1984
 John Davey               Feb. 14th       1989
 Tommy Casey              Oct. 26th       1990
 Fergal Caraher           Dec. 30th       1990
 Eddie Fullerton          May 24th        1991
 Padraig O Seanachain     Aug. 12th       1991
 Tommy Donaghy            Aug. 16th       1991
 Bernard O'Hagan          Sept. 16th      1991
 Pat McBride              Feb. 4th        1992
 Paddy Loughran           Feb. 4th        1992
 Sheena Campbell          Oct. 16th       1992
 Malachy Carey            Dec 12th        1992
 Peter Gallagher          Mar. 23rd       1993
 Alan Lundy               May 1st         1993

===========
 PRISON ADDRESSES IN IRELAND


CRUMLIN
 H.M. Prison Belfast
 Crumlin Road, Belfast
 North Ireland  BT14 6AE

MAGHABERRY
 H.M. Prison Maghaberry
 Old Mill Road
 Ballinderry, county Antrim
 North ireland  BT28 2PT

DUBLIN
 Mountjoy Prison
 Dublin 7
 Ireland

MOUNTJOY
 Training Unit
 Glengarriff PDE
 NTH Circular Road
 Dublin 7
 Ireland

BELFAST CITY HOSPITAL
 Tower Building
 Lisburn Road
 Belfast 9
 North Ireland

HYDEBANK YOUNG OFFENDERS CENTRE
 Hospital Road
 Belfast 8
 Northern Ireland

MAZE
 H.M. Prison Maze
 Lisburn, County Antrim
 North Ireland  BT24 5RP

MAGILLIGAN
 H.M. Prison Magilligan
 Magilligan Point
 Limavady, County Derry
 North Ireland

PORTLAOISE
 Portlaoise Prison
 Portlaoise, County Laoise
 Ireland

LIMERICK
 Limerick Prison
 Limerick City
 Co. Limerick

ARBOR HILL
 Dublin
 Ireland

MUSGRAVE PARK HOSPITAL
 Ward 18
 Stockmans Lane
 Belfast BT11
 North Ireland

     DECEMBER BIRTHDAYS

ADAMS, SEAN
 MAZE 12/22

BEGGS, ANTHONY
 PORTLAOISE 12/24

BROWN, ROSENA
 MAGHABERRY 12/9

CAMPBELL, BRENDAN
 MAXE 12/21

CORBETT, KEVIN
 MAZE 12/12

COSGROVE, THOMAS
 MAZE 12/10

DAILY, MICHAEL
 PORTLAOISE 12/11

DOHERTY, HUGH
 FULL SUTTON 12/7

GAFFIN, SEAN
 MAZE 12/12

JACKSON, ROBERT
 MAZE 12/31

DOYLE, DANNY M.
 MAZE  12/25

ECCLES, THOMAS
 PORTLAOISE 12/23

ENNIS, SEAMUS
 PORTLAOISE 12/14

GALLAGHER, OWEN
 PORTLAOISE 12/4

GIBSON, NOEL
 FRANKLAND 12/11

KELLY, MALACHY
 MAZE 12/26

KINSELLA, LESLIE
 PORTLAOISE 12/22

MADDEN, SEAMUS
 MAZE 12/20

MAGUIRE, EAMONN
 PORTLAOISE 12/14

MOLLOY, MARTIN
 MAZE 12/4

MOORE, DERMOT
 MAZE  12/1

MC CANN, HARRY P.
 MAZE  12/12

MC DERMOTT, NIGEL
 CRUMLIN 12/

MC DONNELL, GERARD
 PARKHURST 12/19

MC FADDEN, JOHN PIUS
 MAZE 12/19

MC GARRIGLE, JAMES
 MAZE 12/11

MC KAY, DAVID
 MAZE  12/25

MC KENNA, GERARD
 MAZE  12/12

NICELL, DAMIAN
 MAZE 12/24

O'BRIEN, JOHN
 PORTLAOISE 12/4

O'DUIBHIR, LIAM
 PARKHURST 12/14

QUIGG, RAYMOND
 MAZE 12/27

VELLA, NATALINO
 FRANKLAND 12/24

    JANUARY BIRTHDAYS

BENNETT, MICHAEL
 MAZE 1/18

BRADY, JOHN
 MAZE 1/31

BROGAN, TOMMY
 CRUMLIN 1/9

BULLOCK, MARTI
 MAZE 1/20

BURKE, PASCHAL
 PORTLAOISE 1/9

CAMPBELL, JAMES
 MAZE 1/9

DEVINE, JOHN
 MAZE 1/29

DOHERTY, JOSEPH P.
 MAZE 1/20

GORMAN, MICHAEL
 MAZE 1/1

HANRATTY, GERRY
 MAZE 1/24

HARDY, LEONARD
 PORTLAOISE 1/29

HEGARTY, NEILL
 MAZE 1/11

HODGINS, GERARD
 MAZE 1/30

FARRELL, MARK
 PORTLAOISE 1/31

FOX, BERNARD
 MAZE 1/27

GARLICK, NOEL
 MAZE 1/5

KELLY6, ADRIAN
 MAZE 1/18

KERR, ROBERT
 MAZE 1/19

LLEWELLYN, BARRY
 MAZE 1/9

LYNCH, PETER
 PORTLAOISE 1/21

LYNCH, SEAN J.
 MAZE 1/18

MAGEE, PAUL (DINGUS)
 PARKHURST 1/20

MORRISON, DANNY
 MAZE 1/10

MURRAY, KEVIN
 MAZE 1/24

MC CANN, JAMES
 MAZE 1/14

MC CAUGHLEY, KEVIN A.
 MAZE 1/12

MC CONNELL, DAVID
 MAZE 1/17

MC CORLEY, ROSALEEN
 MAGHABERRY 1/14

MC COTTER, LEIAM
 WHITEMOOR 1/2

MC CULLOUGH, BRIAN
 MAZE 1/1

MC DEVITT, JOHN
 MAGHABERRY 1/28

MC ERLEAN, JAMES
 MAGHABERRY 1/3

MC GAHAN, BRONWYN
 MAGHABERRY 1/24

MC GAHEY, WILLIAM
 CRUMLIN 1/16

MC GIOLLA GUNNA, M.
 MAZE 1/31

MC KEE, EUGENE
 MAZE 1/23

MC KEOWN, MARTIN
 MAZE 1/14

MC LARNON, THOMAS
 MAZE 1/9

MC LAUGHLIN, JOHN
 MAZE 1/15

MC QULLAN, JOSEPH
 MAZE 1/14

MC SHANE, SEAMUS
 TRNG. UNIT 1/10

ROONEY, FRANCIS
 MAZE 1/24

TRAINOR, PATRICK J.
 MAGHABERRY 1/11


  PRISON ADDRESSES IN ENGLAND

ALBANY
 H.M. Prison Albany
 Newport, Isle of Wight
 England  PO305RS

ARMSLEY
 H.M. Prison Armsley
 Armley, Leeds
 West Yorkshire LS1 22TJ1
 England

BLUNDESTON
 H.M. Prison Blundeston
 Lowestoft, Suffolk
 England

BRISTOL
 H.M. Prison Bristol
 Old Elvet
 Cambridge Road
 Durham DH1 3HU
 England

BRIXTON
 H.M. Prison Brixton
 Jebb Avenue, Brixton
 London, SW2 5XF
 England

CANTERBURY
 H.M. Prison Canterbury
 Longport, Canterbury
 Kent, CT1 1PH England

COOKHAM WOODS
 H.M. Prion Cookham Woods
 Rochester, Kent
 England

LIVERPOOL
 H.M. Prison Liverpool
 68 Hornby Road
 Liverpool L9 3DF
 England

MAIDSTONE
 H.M. Prison maidstone
 County Road, Maidstone
 Kent  ME14 1UZ
 England

DURHAM
 H.M. Prison Durham
 Old Elvet, Durham  DH1 3HU
 England

FRANKLAND
 H.M. Prison Frankland
 Finchale Avenue
 Brasside, Low Newton
 Durham DH1
 England

FULL SUTTON
 H.M. Prison Full Sutton
 York  YO4 1PS
 England

GARTREE
 H.M. Prison Gartree
 Leicester Road
 Market Harborough
 Leicestershire  LE16 7RP
 England

HULL
 H.M. Prison Hull
 Hedon Rd., North Humberside
 Yorkshire HU9 5LS
 England

LEICESTER
 H.M. Prison Leicester
 Welford Road
 Leicester  LE2 7AJ
 England

LINCOLN
 H.M. Prison Lincoln
 Greetwell Road
 Lincoln  LN2 4BD
 England

LONG LARTIN
 H.M. Prison Long lartin
 south Littleton
 Lower Evesham
 Worcestershire, WR11 5TZ
 England

WANDSWORTH
 H.M. Prison Wandsorth
 Heathfield Road
 London  SW18 3HSL
 England

MANCHESTER
 H.M. Prison Manchester
 Southall Street
 Manchester M60 9AM
 England

PARKHURST
 H.M. Prison Parkhurst
 Newport
 Isle of Wight  PO3 05NX England

RISLEY
 H.M. Prison Risley
 Warrington Road
 Risley, Cheshire  WA3 6BD
 England

STYAL
 H.M. Prison Styal
 Wilmslow
 Cheshire  SK9 4HR
 England

BELMARSH
 H.M. Prison Belmarsh
 Western Way
 Thames, Mead
 London SE28
 England

WAKEFIELD
 H.M. Prison Wakefield
 Love Lane, Wakefield
 West Yorkshire  WF2 9AJ
 England

WHITEMOOR
 H.M. Prison Whitemoor
 Long Hill Road
 March, Cambridgeshire PE1 50PR
 England

WORMWOOD SCRUBS
 P.O. Box 757
 duncane Road
 London S12 0AE
 England



 Old Cell
 4 Strassenat
 AM Schloosplatz 2
 3100 Celle
 Germany


   NOVEMBER BIRTHDAYS

BOLGER, KEN
 PORTLAOISE  11/13

CROSSAN, KARL
 MAZE  11/25

DEVIN, GERRY
 MAZE  11/24

HAMILTON, FRA
 MAZE  11/23

HENNESSEY, MATT
 PORTLAOISE  11/30

KEARNEY, GARY
 MAZE 11/8

DOWD, BRENDAN
 FRANKLAND  11/17

KELLY, SEAN
 MAZE  11/7

KINSELLA, MICHAEL
 CRUMLIN  11/1

KINSELLA, SEAN
 PARKHURST  11/5

MASTERSON, OLIVER
 MAZE  11/28

MULLIN, SEAMUS
 MAZE 11/22

MURPHY, ALEX
 MAZE  11/23




MURPHY, ROBERT
 MAZE  11/9

MURRAY, PATRICK

MC CANN, KEVIN
 CRUMLIN  11/15

MC CARTNEY, RAYMOND
 MAZE  11/29

MC CAULEY, PEARSE
 PORTLAOISE  11/9

MC COOL, ROY
 MAZE  11/2

MC GURK, AIDAN
 PORTLAOISE  11/19

MC KENNA, STEPHEN
 MAZE  11/1

MC KIERNAN, CHARLIE
 MAZE  11/6

MC LAUGHLIN, MARTIN
 MAZE  11/7

MC SHANE, JIMMY
 MAZE  11/11

NORNEY, PAUL
 FRANKLAND  11/11

O'NEILL, JOE M.
 MAZE 11/29

ROGAN, MARTIN
 MAZE  11/9

WALKER, JIM
 MAZE  11/15


1252.57HippocritAYOV20::MRENNISONWaiting for hell to freeze overTue Aug 30 1994 08:2910
    It's ironic, isn't it?  If anyone else was to publish and distribute
    alist of suspected or known Republicans itwould be
    
    COLLUSION AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
    
    
    When Mark does it, it's a ROLL OF HONOUR.  
    
    
    Do I smell a rat ?
1252.58SUBURB::FRENCHSSemper in excernereTue Aug 30 1994 09:1311
    Mr Rennison,
    
    
    What you have to remember is that these poor innocent souls are
    political prisoners, locked up for nothing more than their beliefs.
    
    At least, whilst in prison the nasty colluding security forces can't
    get them.
    
    
    YET    :-) 
1252.59TWO MORE OF BALLYMURPHY SEVEN GO FREEKOALA::HOLOHANTue Sep 20 1994 12:1681
TWO MORE OF BALLYMURPHY SEVEN GO FREE

    After more than three years on remand, another two of the Ballymurphy
Seven walked free from Belfast Crown Court when their alleged confessions to an
IRA attack were thrown out by trial judge Justice Kerr.

    Two other were acquitted earlier this year after their alleged
admissions were also rejected. leaving three others still on trial one year
and three days after the case first opened.

        Mr. Stephen Macmullan (24). of New Barnsley Crescent, and Mr. Daniel
Anthony Pettigrew (19), of Divismore Park, who were released, said nothing as
they left the court. They were freed after Justice Kerr said there were
significant questions over the interrogation of the two, although he refused
to rule that they had been subjected to ill-treatment or the threat of
violence.

        Earlier, they had hugged and shaken hands with the remaining three
defendants, Mr. Hugh McLaughlin (21), Mr. Anthony Garland (20), and Mr.
Michael Beck (21), who are still accused of attempting to kill troopers during
a coffee-jar device attack on Belfast's Springfield Road on August 2nd, 1991.
Dealing with Mr. McMullan, Kerr said that the "linchpin" of his case rested on
the evidence of a doctor as to his vulnerability during his "interviews."

        Kerr said the doctor's evidence had "raised a significant question of
the accused's ability to present a normal defense to the interviewing
technique [sic] to which he was subjected." The judge added, however, that he
"hastened to reiterate, to make clear, that this conclusion is in no way
intended to be critical of the manner of the interviewing of the accused."

        In regard to Mr. Pettigrew, Justice Kerr said that although the
accused's allegations of ill-treatment were "inherently plausible," he had no
reservation in rejecting them; nevertheless, a question mark still remained
over the taking of his alleged confession.

        "I have not been brought to the point of conviction in his case that
the central allegation to the circumstances in which the alleged confession
were made are untrue. I have very grave reservation as to the truth of the
claims made by Pettigrew.

        "But I cannot dismiss, with the requisite degree of confidence and
assurance, that [sic] would allow me to rule that his confessions are
admissible," added Kerr.

        The case of the  Ballymurphy Seven began with an IRA coffee-jar device
attack on British troopers in August 1991. The defendants were aged between 17
and 22 when first arrested in connection with the attack. Some have been in
custody since 1991. Two were arrested in April 1992.

        Each of the seven faced charges of attempted murder arising from the
attack. The accused men  poin t out, however, that they signed confessions
under duress at the RUC's holding center at Castlereagh, east Belfast.

        The defendants have said that they were subjected to psychological and
emotional pressures and/or physical abuse while being detained for up to six
days at Castlereagh.

        The first of the seven, Mr. Brendan Robert McCrory, was freed in
February following a prosecution application "to avoid unfairness and in the
interests of justice." The prosecution told the court that it no longer
accepted Mr. McCrory's confession.

        The second defendant to be released was Mr. Ciaran McAllister. The
prosecution again told the court that it would "not now seek to rely on the
admissions made by McAllister."

        The release of two more defendants, Mr. Stephen McMullan and Mr.
Daniel Anthony Pettigrew, after over three years on remand, followed a similar
pattern. They were freed after Mr. Kerr said there were significant questions
over the interrogation of the two, although he rejected allegations of
ill-treatment.

        The other three defendants, Mr. Hugh McLaughlin, Mr. Anthony Garland
and Mr. Michael Beck, remain on trial, three years after the attack on the
British troopers and a year and three days after the case opened.

        The case has attracted the attention of Amnesty International,
Helsinki Watch and the North's Committee for the Administration of Justice.



1252.60Updated political prisoner and prisoners of war listKOALA::HOLOHANMon Oct 03 1994 14:261160
              IRISH REPUBLICAN POLITICAL PRISONERS
                      AND PRISONERS-OF-WAR

In addition to the sentenced republican prisoners listed here,
there are 150 remand prisoners. Full details on these and other

prisoners, and on prison issues and campaigns, can be obtained
from the Sinn Fein POW Department, 51/55 Falls Road, Belfast
(phone 249975) and 5 Blessington Street, Dublin (phone 308738)
People are encouraged to write and send cards to the prisoners.


                           **********

List provided by:
                      'The Writing Cmpaign'
                       4110 Farmdale Road
                   Philadelphia, PA 19154 USA
                       tel (215-637-3728)

            Mike Duffy * Mary Cruz * Patricia Gatins

                           **********

   included the numbers following prisoners names when writing

                           **********

Maghaberry Prison
Old Ballinderry Road,
Lisburn, County Antrim

name                          home area                sentence


Shauneen Baker                Ardoyne                     10yrs

Rosena Brown                  Andersontown               remand

Theresa Browne                Poleglass                    5yrs
Paula Burns                   Short Strand                 8yrs
Mary Ellen Campbell           New Lodge                    6yrs

Alish Carroll                 Armagh                      15yrs
Ann Cavanagh                  Derry                       10yrs

Una Corr                      Poleglass                  remand
Patricia Deane                Falls                       10yrs
Geraldine Ferrity             Tyrone                       life

Mary McArdle                  Turf Lodge                   life

Rosaleen McCorley             Andersontown                22yrs

Bronwyn McGahan               Tyrone                       7yrs

Ann Marie McKee               Lenadoon                     5yrs
Agnes Marie McManus           Andersonstown              remand


Anna Moore                    Derry                        life

Louise Nash                   Derry City                   5yrs
Karen Quinn                   Twinbrook                    9yrs

Pat Semple-Moore              Tyrone                       life

Frances Symington             Poleglass                  remand


Marie Wright                  Andersontown                24yrs


                           **********

Male Special Category, Maghaberry

name                          home area                 sentence


Barbour, John J.              Derry City
Francis Gillespie             Omagh                        12yrs

Gerry Lafferty                Derry City                   20yrs

Chris Montgomery              Markets-A7916

Patrick Mullan                Tyrone                       life

Ronnie McCartney              Belfast                      life

John McDivitt                 Derry City-A491              life
James McErlean                Toome-A550                   life
Thomas McGrath                Coalisland                   life
Patrick Mullin                Tyrone                       life

Kevin O'Neill                 Coalisland                   life

Owen Roe O'Neill              Dungannon-A499               life
Dominic Nicholl               Tyrone-A1830                 life
Patrick Trainor               Crossmaglen                  life

Derek Shotters                Derry City                   life


                            **********

Limerick Prison
Musgrave Street
Limerick City

Pamela Kane                   Dublin                        10yrs



                           **********

H-Blocks
Long Kesh,
Lisburn, County Antrim

name                         home area                   sentence


Adams, Sean                  St. James                      14rs

Agnew, Kieran                Ahoghill                       10yrs

Barkley, Danny               New Barnsley                   10yrs

Bateson, Peter               Magherafelt                    25yrs

Bennett, Michael             Lenadoon                       24yrs


Blakely, Jim                 Derry                           9yrs

Bonnar, Stephen              Strabane                        7yrs

Brady, John                  Strabane                        life

Brannigan, Brendan           Castlwellan                    15yrs

Brannigan, Tim               Beechmount                      8yrs


Breslin, Gary                Strabane                       18yrs

Breslin, Michael             Derry                          25yrs

Browne, Donal                Derry                           life

Bullock, Martin              Tyrone                          life

Butler, Gerard               Ballycastle-A7018               life


Caldwell, Danny              Poleglass-A4299                10yrs

Campbell, Bernard            Coalisland-A536                 life

Campbell, Brendan            Tyrone-A3494                   20yrs

Campbell, James              Tyrone                         14yrs

Campbell, Kevin              Derry                          16yrs


Campbell, Sean               New Lodge-A9392                14yrs

Carroll, Gregory             Armagh                         22yrs

Cartmill, Tony               Armagh-A4474                    life

Chambers, Robert             Beechmount                      life

Clarke, Gary W.              Ballymurphy-A6859              14yrs


Clinton, Terrence            Ormeau Raod-A7883              14yrs

Collins, Mickey              New Lodge                      14yrs

Collins, Seamus              Clonard                        14yrs

Conlon, Steven               Armagh-A1721                   20yrs

Connolly, Andy               Strabane                        7yrs


Connolly, Sean               Ballymurphy-A8525              20yrs

Connolly, Tarlac             Armagh-A5526                    life

Corbett, Kevin               Ardoyne                        12yrs

Corbett, Peter               Ardoyne                        17yrs

Corry, Francis               Portadown-A262                  life


Cosgrove, Kevin              St James-A8709                 21yrs

Cosgrove, Noel Paul          Beechmount-A4297               14yrs

Cosgrove, Thomas             Ardoyne-A1663                  16yrs

Cosgrove, Thomas             Beechmount                     22yrs


Coyle, Dermot                Tyrone-A4213                   10yrs

Coyle, Kieran A              Tyrone                         17yrs

Crane, Jim                   Ballymurphy-A1018              20yrs

Creany, Martin               Portadown-A2046                12yrs

Cross, Brian                 Derry City-A1848                7yrs


Crossan, Declan              Strabane-A351                  20yrs

Crossan, Karl                Derry City-A8709               20yrs

Culbert, Michael             Andersonstown                  life

Cunningham, Peter            Short Strand-A383              20yrs

Devenny, Patrick             Short Strand-A832              29yrs


Devine, John (Sleepy)        Clonard                         life

Devine, Gerry                Ballymurphy-A6065               8yrs

Devine, John                 Strabane                       18yrs

Doherty, David               Derry-A2983                    10yrs

Doherty, Jimmy               Derry-A1002                     life


Doherty, John                Ardoyne-A549                   15yrs

Doherty, John                Derry-A1478                     life

Doherty, Liam J              New Lodge-A2433                 5yrs

Doherty, Michael             Ardoyne-A1644                  16yrs

Doherty, Joseph P.           New Lodge-A8736                 life


Doherty, Seamus              Derry                          20yrs

Doherty, William             Derry City-A501                 life

Donaghy, Brendan             Galbally-A458                   life

Donnelly, Jim                Ballymurphy-A4388              22yrs


Doyle, Alphonses             Derry-A2995                     6yrs

Doyle, Daniel Martin         Derry-A6166                     8yrs

Duff, Michael                Beechmount-A4674               14yrs

Duffin, James J.             Tyrone-A5280                    life

Duffy, Paul                  Lurgan                         15yrs


Duffy, Paul Pius             Andersonstown-A7587            10yrs

Duffy, Sean                  Benburg-A5481                  17yrs

Farrell, Declan              Newry-A2266                    12yrs

Ferguson, Bredan             Newry-A1193                     7yrs

Ferguson, Liam               Newry-A2271                    10yrs


Fitzsimmons, Bobby           Short Strand-A7553             20yrs

Fitzsimmons, Henry           Whiterock-A6314                13yrs

Fleming, Leo                 Derry-A1783                     9yrs

Flood, Paddy                 Ardoyne-A4795                  12yrs

Flynn, Brendan               Andersontown-A2106             19yrs


Forbes, Art                  Strabane-A1713                 18yrs

Fox, Bernard                 St. James-A2105                22yrs

Fox, Patrick                 Tyrone                         12yrs

Gallagher, Andy              Strabane-A1111                 20yrs

Gallagher, Barney            Omagh                          17yrs


Gallagher, Jimmy             Strabane-A618                  20yrs

Gallagher, Willie            Strabane-A1121                 20yrs

Garlick, Noel                Newry-A661                     20yrs

Gervin, Martin               Coalisland                      life

Gillen, Brian                Antrim-A1215                   17yrs


Gillen, Tony                 Ballymurphy A-3635             14yrs

Gilmartin, Eugene            Twinbrook-A303                  life

Gilmore, Conor               Ardoyne-A4161                  20yrs

Gilmore, Johnny              Derry City-A1968               16yrs

Glennon, Davy                Ardoyne-A1288                  18yrs


Gorman, Michael              New Lodge-A375                  life

Gormley, Brian               Turf Lodge-A2325                7yrs

Grafinn, Sean                Antrim-A5863                   14yrs

Green, Leo                   Lurgan-A194                     life

Grimes, Patrick              Carrickmore-A570                life


Hagans, George               Ballymurphy-A1266              12yrs

Hamilton, Fra                Beechmount                     16yrs

Hanratty, Gerry              Andersonstown-A9606             8yrs

Harper, William              Kikeel-A238                     life

Healy, Noel P.               Andersonstown-A6779            14yrs


Heaney, John Anthony         Armagh-A3319                   10yrs

Hegarty, Neill               Derry-A1717                      n/a

Henry, Brian                 Ardoyne-A4792                   6yrs

Hill, Sean                   Ballycastle-A7017              16yrs

Hill, Stephen                Ballycastle-A7019              10yrs


Hillen, Michael              Newry-A5335                    22yrs

Hillen, Michael              Newry-A159                     15yrs

Hillis, Gerard Paul          New Barnsly                     4yrs

Hodgins, Gerard              Andersontown-A4298             12yrs

Hollywood, Tarlach           Newry-A2267                      n/a


Hughes, Danny                New Lodge-A2060                10yrs

Hughes, Kevin                Ballymurphy                    10yrs

Hunter, Brian A              Bone-A1057                      life

Irvine, Louis                Twinbrook-A556                 14yrs

Jackson, Rab                 Andersonstown-A1017            20yrs


Johnston, Patrick            New Lodge                       3yrs

Jordan, Dave                 Tyrone                          9yrs

Kane, Pat                    Andersonstown                   life

Kearney, Gary                Clonard-A420                   18yrs

Kelly, Adrian                Derry City-A951                 life


Kelly, Malachy               Newry-A2272                    12yrs

Kelly, Martin                Derry City-A505                 life

Kelly, Sean                  St. James-A2616                 life

Kelly, Sean                  Antrim-A5862                   24yrs

Kerr, Robert                 St. James-A207                  life


Llewellyn, Barry             Downpatrick-A1062               life

Louge, Eammon                Strabane-A9059                  3yrs

Loughlin, Thomas             New Lodge-A873                  life

Loughran, Paul               Beechmount-A5356                9yrs

Lynch, Peter                 Andersonstown-A7715            24yrs


Lynch, Sean James            Fermanagh-A586                 25yrs

Madden, Desmond              Beechmount-A8538                8yrs

Madden, Seamus               Toome-A5882                    24yrs

Magee, Gerard                Antrim                         23yrs

Magee, Kiernan               Andersonstown-A6010            12yrs


Magee, Sam                   Newry                           4yrs

Magorrian, Colm              Castlewellan-A2157             10yrs

Maguire, Feargal             Andersonstown-A2083            12yrs

Maguire, Gerry J             Fermanagh-A1277                15yrs

Maguire, Harry               Andersonstown-A1840            25yrs


Maguire, Thomas              Ligioniel-A1056                18yrs

Mahon, Robert                New Lodge-A9191                12yrs

Mailey, Stephen              Ardoyne-A4794                  12yrs

Mallon, Brian                Tyrone-A1768                   11yrs

Manning, Phillip             Clonard                         life


Markey, Peter                Warrenpoint-A1091               life

Marley, Emmanuel             Ardoyne-A1757                  20yrs

Martin, James                Lenadoon-A4322                 12yrs

Masterson, Oliver            Andersonstown-A7716            24yrs

Mathers, Sean                Newry                          21yrs


Mead, Brendan                St. James-A461                 life

Meehan, Martin Jr.           Ardoyne-A941                  12yrs

Meehan, Martin, Sr.          Ardoyne-A4718                 15yrs

Meehan, Pat                  Derry City-A2118              20yrs

Mervyn, George               Beechmount-A9196              14yrs


Miller, Anton                Derry City-5184               24yrs

Moen, Declan                 Monaghan-A4163                15yrs

Molly, Martin                Strabane-A619                 26yrs

Molly, Martin                Magerha-2984                  10yrs

Molloy, Tommy                Andersonstown-A122             life


Montgomery, Peter            Markets                        14yrs

Montgomery, Robin            Ardoyne-A1015                  20yrs

Montgomery, Sean             Ardoyne-A802                   10yrs

Moore, Dermott               Tyrone                          life

Moore, Eamon                 Derry City-A597                 life


Morgan, James K              St. James-A7472                14yrs

Morgan, Leo A.               New Lodge-A6242                 6yrs

Morrison, Danny              Beechmount-A4200                8yrs

Mulgrew, Mark                Cookstown-2099                 15yrs

Mulligan, Padraig            Donagh-A7586                   16yrs


Mullin, Seamus               Co. Derry-A708                  life

Mulvenna, Brendan            Ballymurphy-A146               18yrs

Murdoch, Richard             New Lodge-A616                  6yrs

Murphy, Alex                 Andersonstown-A1839             LIFE

Murphy, Declan               Camlough-A4616                 22yrs


Murphy, Myles                Falls-A2440                    25yrs

Murphy, Robert               Turf Lodge-A390                 life

Murray, Barry                Lisnaskea-A2089                18yrs

Murray, Brian                Armagh-A2086                    5yrs

Murray, Harry                Lenadoon-A381                  30yrs


Murray, John A.              Andersonstown-A4297             8yrs

Murray, Kevin                Strabane-A1832                 18yrs

Murray, Kieran               Lurgan-A722                    life


McAleese, Pearse             Portglenone-A2073              10yrs

McAllister, Rab              Ormeau-A137                     life

McAllister, Tom              Lower Falls-A4184              16yrs

McCabe, Brendan              Newry-A-1174                    8yrs

McCafferty, Jimmy A.         Strabane-A3877                  5yrs


McCallan, Rory               Ardoyne                        27yrs

McCallion, Kevin             Strabane-A620                  16yrs

McCann, Harry P.             Randalstown-A6269              15yrs

McCann, Jim                  Andersonstown-A515             30yrs

McCartan, Ronan              Tyrone-A4153                   12yrs


McCarthy, Ruari              Twinnbrook-A-5017              10yrs

McCarthy, Henry              Armagh-A5527                   life

McCartney, Raymond           Derry City-A129                25yrs

McCaughley, Kevin            Andersonstown-A5160            7yrs

McClafferty, Edward          Ardoyne                        14yrs


McClelland, Eddie            Armagh-A154                    life

McClenaghan, Brendan         Ardoyne-A1049                  life

McConkey, Sean               Divis-A114                     life

McConnell, David             Poleglass-A1907                9yrs

McCool, Roy                  Derry City-A3616              20yrs


McCorry, Liam                Andersonstown
McCorry, Michael             New Lodge                       9yrs

McCotter, Patrick            Ardoyne-A418                   20yrs

McCotter, Sean               Andersonstown-A2084            12yrs

McCready, Paul B.            Strabane-A7326                 12yrs


McCrory, Alec                Andersonstown-A391             12yrs

McCrory, Gerard              Ballymurphy-A9701               8yrs

McCrossan, Colman            Strabane-A2555                 14yrs

McCrystal, Tommy             Omagh-A57                       life

McCullough, Brian            Andersontown-A2111              life


McDermott, Paul              Derry City                      6yrs

McDonald, Vivian             Ballygawley                     n/a

McElkearney, Martin          Divis-A723                     life

McEvoy, Paul                 New Lodge                      16yrs

McFadden, Gerard             Derry City-A5184               17yrs


McFadden, Jimmy              Derry City                      4yrs

McFadden, John Pius          Falls-A4414                    15yrs

McFarlane, Brendan           Ardoyne-A742                   25yrs

McGarrigle, Edward           Strabane-A2511                  9yrs

McGarrigle, Gerard           Strabane-A4360                 14yrs


McGarrigle, James            New Lodge-A1865                12yrs

McGennity, Pat               Newry-A2156                    17yrs

McGettigan, Paul J.          Strabane-A1733                 13yrs

McGilloway, Patrick          Derry City-A2101               18yrs


Mac Giolla, Gunna M.         Andersontown-A6064             14yrs

McGrath, Jimmy               Andersontown-A975              16yrs

McGuinness, Kiernan          Andersontown-A4183              7yrs

McGurk, Patrick              Dungannon                       life

McHugh, Michael              Andersonstown-A5606            14yrs


McHugh, Noel                 Lisnaskea-A7601                 life

McKay, David                 Twinbrook-A1690                10yrs

McKay, Garry                 Tyrone                         10yrs

McKay, Noel                  Falls-A5312                    18yrs

McKee, Eugene                Andersonstown-A4183            20yrs


McKee, Gerard                Turf Lodge-A977                12yrs

McKee, Michael               Ballymurphy                    20yrs

McKenna, Gerard              Lower Falls-A3421               7yrs

McKenna, John                Lower Falls-A-870               n/a

McKenna, Stephen             Fermanagh-A6358               12yrs


McKeown, Barry               Newry-A651                    17yrs

McKeown, Hugh                Newry-A648                    20yrs

McKeown, Martin              Newry-A4964                    5yrs

McKiernan, Charlie           Markets-A1136                  life

McKinley, Oliver             Falls-A4734                   25yrs


McKinley, Sean               Divis-A601                    life
McKinney, John               New Lodge-A2037               18yrs

McLarnon, Brian              Tyrone                        18yrs

McLarnon, Paul               Ardoyne-A4477                  7yrs

McLarnon, Thomas             Ligoniel-A2029                10yrs


McLaughlin, Ciaran           Co. Derry-A258                13yrs

McLaughlin, John             Derry City-A4113              14yrs

McLaughlin, John G.          New Barnsley-A403             12yrs

McLaughlin, Martin P         Derry-A615                     life

McLaughlin, Sean             Twinbrook-A611                 life


McLoughlin, Patrick          New Barnsley-A7875             7yrs

McMahon, John G              Co. Derry                      12yrs

McMahon, Kevin               Poleglass-A2109               18yrs

McMahon, Patrick             Falls-A8540                   12yrs

McMonagle, Hugh              Derry City-A583               14yrs


McMonagle, Sean M.           Derry City-A5183              17yrs

McNally, Kevin               Keady-A812                     life

McNally, Louis Henry         Dungannon-A2154               22yrs

McNulty, Samuel J.           Strabane-A2901                12yrs

McParland, Joseph            Newry                         10yrs


McQuillian, Joe              Beechmount-A1004              16yrs

McShane, Jimmy               St. James-A4186                7yrs

McShane, Kevin               Beechmount-A3561              16yrs

McSorley, Jim                New Lodge                      7yrs

McStravick, Steven           Markets-A7905                 14yrs


McStravogh, Hugh             Coalisland-A1750               6yrs

McVeigh, Tom                 Andersonstown-A4185           16yrs

McVeigh, James               Falls-A1127                 24&7yrs

Nash, Noel                   Derry City-A1292               12yrs

Neeson, Brendan              Tyrone-A1766                   14yrs


Nelson, Martin               Fermanagh-A4608                18yrs

Nesbitt, Arthur              Turf Lodge                     12yrs

Nicell, Damien               Derry City-A1956               life

Nolan, Eamonn (Jimmy)        Turf Lodge-A856                life

Nolan, Phillip               Derry City-A1356              16yrs


Norney, John                 New Barnsley-A4182            12yrs

O'Carroll, Jim               Andersonstown-A4303           10yrs

O'Connor, Eddie              Keady-A826                     life

O'Dowd, Patrick              Lurgan-A768                   25yrs

O'Dwyer, Thomas              Beechmount-A1622              22yrs


O'Hagen, Felim               Lurgan-A733                    life

O'Hagan, John                New Lodge-A733                12yrs

O'Hagan, Sean F.             Dungannon-A2149               23yrs

O'Neill, Anthony             St. James-A8390               20yrs

O'Neill, George              Co. Derry-A1359                6yrs


O'Neill Gerard               Lower Falls                   12yrs

O'Neill, James               Antrim-A679                   14yrs

O'Neill, Joe M               Turf Lodge-A2094              10yrs

O'Neill, Martin              Strabane-A613                 20yrs

O'Neill, Martin              Ligoniel-A2027                12yrs


O'Neill, Martin              Derry City-A4765               n/a

O'Neill, Raymond             Antrim                        14yrs

O'Neill, Michael             Short Strand                   8yrs

O'Neill, Phillip             Strabane-A7340                 6yrs

O'Neill, Raymonnd            Antrim-A2153                  14yrs


O'Reilly, Jim                Falls-A679                    17yrs

Patterson, Neill             Strabane                       life

Owens, Anthony               Falls-A7876                    7yrs

Pattersonn, Neill            Strabane-A1154                 life

Pickering, John              Andersonstown-A772             life


Quigg, Raymond               Derry                          15yrs

Quinn, Dermot                Tyrone-A5456                   25yrs

Quinn, Frankie               Tyrone                         15yrs

Rogan, Martin                Belfast                        n/a

Rodgers, William R.          Derry City                     10yrs


Rooney, Danny                St. James-A7374                16yrs

Rooney, Francis              New Barnsley-A8539             12yrs

Roulston, Michael            Strabane-A6990                 18yrs

Russell, Joe                 Downpatrick-A1283               6yrs

Scott, Eamonn                Poleglass-A448                  life


Sheehan, Pat                 St. James's-A1871              24yrs

Storey, Bobby                Andersonstown                  18yrs

Thompson, Jimmy P            New Lodge-A4658                12yrs

Thompson, Noel J.            Andersonstown-A7734            12yrs

Timmons, Michael             Twinbrook-A4530                 life


Vallely, Michael             Ballymurphy-A1225              12yrs

Walker, Jim                  Derry-A2102                    12yrs

Walker, John J.              Ballymurphy                     7yrs

Walsh, Christopher           Beechmount-A7341               14yrs

Walsh, Noel                  Co. Derry-A1292                 n/a


Walsh, Sid                   Poleglass-A2107                22yrs

Ward, Patrick                Down                           10yrs

Weir, Albert                 Andersonstown-A1490            15yrs

Wilson, Padraig              Andersonstown-A3881            24yrs

Wylie, Aidan                 Stewartstown-A7097              7yrs



                            *********

Portlaoise Prison
Portlaoise,
County Laois

name                         area                        sentence



Adams, Dominic               Dublin                         10yrs

Adams, Garry                 Dublin                         10yrs

Beggs, Anthony               Dublin                         10yrs

Bolger, Kenneth              Dublin                          8yrs

Breen, Sean                  Limerick                        8yrs


Burke, Michael               Cork                           12yrs

Burke, Paschal               Dublin                          6yrs

Burns, Gerard                Dublin                          6yrs


Carmody, John                Limerick                       10yrs

Carroll, Gregory             Armagh                         22yrs

Carroll, Niall               Armagh                          5yrs


Comerford, Seamus            Laois                           3yrs

Crawley, John                Fermanagh                      13yrs

Daly, Michael                Cork                            4yrs

Douglass, David              Dublin                        15yrs

Duffy, Patrick               Dundalk                        LIFE


Eccles, Tommy                Dundalk                       40yrs

Ennis, Seamus                Dublin                         8yrs

Farrell, Mark                Dublin                        10yrs

Ferris, Mark                 Kerry                         13yrs

Flanagan, Pat                Laois                         10yrs


Foley, Aran                  Dublin                         8yrs

Fox, Jimmy                   Dundalk                        7yrs

Gallagher, Owen              Strabane                       4yrs

Grew, Oliver                 Tyrone                         6yrs

Griffin, Patrick J           Keady                          9yrs


Hamilton, Gerry              Donegal                        7yrs

Hardy, Leonard               Dublin                         5yrs

Hennessey, Matt              Dublin                        10yrs

Hughes, Jimmy                Tyrone                        12yrs

Kearney, Dermot              Dublin
Kearns, Gerard               Dublin                        12yrs

Kelahan, John                Dublin                         7yrs



Kenna, Brian                 Dublin                        10yrs

Kinsella, Leslie             Dublin                         9yrs

Lavin, Patrick               Dublin                        10yrs

Lynch, Peter                 Dublin                        17yrs

Maguire, Eamonn              Dublin         awaiting extradition


McCauley, Pearse             Strabane                     remand

McGurk, Aidan                Tyrone                         5yrs

McPhilips, Pat               Dundalk                       40yrs

McShane, Brian               Dundalk                       40yrs


Nolan, Eammon                Waterford                      life

O Cleirigh, Eammon           Dublin                          8yrs

O'Connell, Aaron             Cork                           life

O'Dwyer, Ciaran              Limerick                       10yrs

O'Neill, Connor              Tyrone                         12yrs


O'Neill, Declan              Dublin                          8yrs

O'Reilly, Mick               Dublin                         12yrs

O Treasaigh, Maitiu          Dublin                          8yrs

Phelan, Liam                 Kilkenny                        5yrs

Parker, Joe                  Ardoyne                         3yrs


Quinlivan, Nessan            Limerick                      Remand

Rogers, Peter                Wexford                        40yrs

Sheey, Gerard                Limerick                        5yrs

Sloan, Eugene                Dublin                         10yrs


                           **********

Magilligan
Point Road
Limavady,
Co. Derry

Doherty, John                Derry City                    5yrs

Gorman, Paul                 Derry City
Hughes, Gerard               Andersonstown-A5426           4yrs
Kane, Brendan                Tyrone-A3866                  4yrs
McCaughey, Peter             Tyrone                        4yrs
McDonnell, Edward            Ballymurphy                   5yrs
McKenna, Diarmuid            Andersonstown                 4yrs
O'Neill, Andrew F.           Turf Lodge                    3yrs
Waudby, Steven               Anntrim-A4867                 4yrs

                           **********

English Prisons

name                    sentence      prison        area

Martina Anderson           life       Durham        Derry-D25134


Eddie Butler               life       Full Sutton   Limerick
                                                    338637


Hugh Doherty               life       Albany        Donegal-

                                                    338636

Vince Donnelly             life       Whitemoor     Tyrone
                                                    274064

Brendan Dowd               life       Frankland     Kerry
                                                    758662

Harry Duggan               life       Frankland     Clare
                                                    338638

Noel Gibson                life       Parkhurst     Laois
                                                    879225

Paul Kavanagh              life       Full Sutton   Belfast
                                                    L31888

Sean Kinsella              life       Parkhurst     Monaghan
                                                    758661

Damien McComb              30yrs      Full Sutton   Dundalk
                                                    MT248L

Liam McCotter              17yrs      Leicester     Belfast
                                                    LB83693

Gerry McDonnell            life       Leicester     Belfast
                                                    B25882

Patrick Magee              life       Full Sutton   Belfast-

                                                    B75881

Paul (Dingus) Magee        25yrs      Parkhurst     Tralee-

                                                   BR3738

Michael McKenna (Joe)      16yrs      Frankland     Downpat.
                                                    L46486

Patrick McLaughlin         life       Parkhurst     Derry City
                                                    L43470

Patrick McLaughlin         20yrs      Whitemoor     Belfast
                                                    LB83694


Martin McNulty             4yrs       Hydebank      Tyrone
                                                    A6492

Stephen Nordone            life       Gartree       Louth
                                                    758663

Paul Norney                life       Long Lartin   Belfast
                                                    863532

Joe O'Connell              life       Full Sutton   Clare
                                                    338635

Liam O'Duibhir             30yrs      Parkhurst     Dublin
                                                    MT2485

Ella O'Dwyer               life       Durham        Tipperary
                                                    D25135

Tommy Quigley              life       Full Sutton   Belfast
                                                    B69204

Liam Quinn                 life       Albany        San Francisco

                                                    (USA)
                                                    L49930

Peter Sherry               life       Parkhurst     Tyrone
                                                    B75880

Natalino Vella             15yrs      Frankland     Dublin
                                                    B71644



HM Prison Gartree          HM Prison Wandsworth
Market Harborough          Heathfield Road
Leicester LE16 7RP         London SW18 3HSL


HM Prison Wormwood Scrubs         HM Prison Wakefield
Duncane Road                      Love Lane
London S12 OAE                    Wakefield, West Yorkshire


HM Prison Maidstone               HM Prison Hull
County Road                       Hedon Road
Maidstone                         Hull
Kent  ME14 1UZ


HM Prison Long Lartin        HM Prison Frankland
Lower Evesham                Brasside
Worcestershire               Durham


HM Prison Full Sutton        HM Prison Parkhurst
York                         Newport
YO3 1PS                      Isle of Wright

HM Prison Leicester          HM Prison Brixton
Welford Road                 Jebb Avenue
Leicester LE2 7AJ            London  SW2 5XF

HM Prison Bristol
Cambridge Road
Bristol





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1252.61Take them down.YELBUS::DSMITHIt&#039;s over the line...Tue Oct 04 1994 04:0213
    
    
     Of course, the British Government should immediately free all these
    people from jail. They are after all "political prisoners and prisoners
    of war", not people who have maimed and slaughtered hundreds of
    innocent civilians over the past 20 years or so. Men, woman, little
    children were murdered by these so called "soldiers". Let them serve 
    the full sentence.
    
     Danny.
    
     Now sit back and wait for the usual rantings of a certain well known
    "knowledgeable and unbiased" American.
1252.62InterferenceHLDE01::STRETCH_MTue Oct 04 1994 09:2435
    re 1252.61
    Here, are you saying Hooligan is an american?. I didn't realise. 
    So then, what's his problem? Why is he so bothered about
    what happens between Britain and Ireland?
    
    Don't tell me. Let me guess. He thinks that the Brits really want to
    be in N.I. because its got so much going for it.
    
    I've got to say this American interference is really beggining to
    irritate me.
    
    The other day I heard a piece on the BBC world service
    (okay Brit bias, but) about an Irish-American group, based in Boston,
    who claimed to supply cash to the IRA. So what, you may say. Anyway
    the leaders went on about Ireland as if it was still in the 17th
    Century. It was pathetic and frightening, because these people really
    believe that the Brits have an invasion force in Ireland. They didn't
    seem to distinguish between north and south either.
    
    I really do get the impression from many Americans that they think that
    Ireland is floating on Guinness and that In Scotland everyone is running
    around in Kilts and claiming to be members of Clans. And, that the
    English are all Red coats.
    
    I think americans should concentrate on matters closer to their own home, 
    like the economic sanctions on Cuba for instance.
    
    By the way, the BBC world service news on the same day claimed that 
    Al Gore took full credit for the ceasefire in N.I. Another Nobel
    nominee - I don't think so.
    
    rgds
    Mark
    
    
1252.63Guinness is good for youTALLIS::DARCYAlpha Migration ToolsTue Oct 04 1994 11:2823
    Mark,
    
    The Clinton administration has helped along the ceasefire a bit,
    though more credit should go to the 4 congressmen, especially Bruce
    Morrisson from Connecticut. I would have preferred that Clinton met Adams,
    but even a phone call from Gore at this point in time is welcomed
    to keep Adams in the mainstream and continue the peace process.
    
    Also, there are many groups raising money for the IRA and loyalist 
    paramilitary groups right in London.  The amount of money raised
    for the IRA in Boston is minor and has been declining over the years.
    
    Instead of bemoaning American interference (which one could easily
    argue is just as bad as British interference in Ireland) how about
    working together and finding new ways to promote and continue the
    peace process? i.e. lobbying for more integrated schooling and
    housing in NI, more economic incentives and financial aid for NI,
    reducing the military presence in NI, integrating the police force,
    etc...  We've got to look at peace in whatever form it takes as a
    win-win situation for all parties, and not us against them.
    
    regards,
    george
1252.64KOALA::HOLOHANTue Oct 04 1994 12:0212
 re. .61

 Danny,
  The British government seems to have little problem
 with freeing British soldiers who have murdered
 unarmed civilians in north east Ireland.  Why would
 they have a problem freeing men and women convicted
 in jury-less trials, with forced confessions and
 faked evidence?

                  Mark
1252.65FUTURS::GIDDINGS_DTechnoburnoutTue Oct 04 1994 13:217
    > peace process? i.e. lobbying for more integrated schooling and
    
    I seem to remember that when integrated schooling was being mooted in the
    1960s the main opponent was the Catholic church. When the IRA campaign 
    started up that put the lid on it.
    
    Dave
1252.66TALLIS::DARCYAlpha Migration ToolsTue Oct 04 1994 13:584
    Yes you're right Dave, we need to lobby both the government and
    the Catholic Church to accept integrated schooling.  Each year
    there are more integrated schools starting up in NI.  It can only
    help the process of reconciliation.
1252.67METSYS::THOMPSONTue Oct 04 1994 14:2632
re: .62
    
>    The other day I heard a piece on the BBC world service
>    (okay Brit bias, but) about an Irish-American group, based in Boston,
>    who claimed to supply cash to the IRA. So what, you may say. Anyway
>    the leaders went on about Ireland as if it was still in the 17th
>    Century. It was pathetic and frightening, because these people really

The term "Irish-American" is a bit misleading, I think it gets over-used
and abused. In general the term "Americans of Irish Descent" is more
appropriate term - it covers all Americans that claim Irish ancestry.
"Irish-American" really refers to a smaller grouping of people, they 
publicly acknowledge their status (often very visually via the symbol of
the crossed American and Irish Flags). 

The real  "Irish-Americans" almost regard themselves as being in Exile.
They are very well informed about affairs in Ireland and do support a
United Ireland. 


>> They didn't seem to distinguish between north and south either.

That's quite deliberate, hence the term "North-East Ireland" that we 
often see in this conference.

>    I think americans should concentrate on matters closer to their own home, 
>    like the economic sanctions on Cuba for instance.

Most Americans do but the Irish-Americans form a unique group.

M
1252.68BALLYMURPHY SEVEN MAN SPEAKS OUT FOR FRIENDSKOALA::HOLOHANThu Oct 06 1994 12:3686
from AP/RN   (29 Sept.)


BALLYMURPHY SEVEN MAN SPEAKS OUT FOR FRIENDS
by Liam O Coileain


One of two recently released Belfast miscarriage of justice victims has been
in Dublin this week campaigning to secure the release of three friends who
remain in prison.

Danny Pettigrew, one of the group of men known collectively as the Ballymurphy
Seven, was released recently, along with fellow accused Stephen McMullan, by a
Diplock Court judge in Belfast.  Like two other members of the group before
them, Ciaran McAllister and Brendan McCrory, the judge ruled that the
statements which they were forced to sign in custody, the sole evidence
against them, could not be relied upon.  The judge, however, was careful not
to criticise the interview techniques employed by the RUC in Castlereagh
Interrogation Centre.  In an interview with AP/RN, Danny Pettigrew said of
this three friends who are in Long Kesh:

"What is holding them in jail is the same thing as what was holding me, forced
confessions in Castlereagh," he said.  "But the British don't want to go away
with egg on their face.  They are looking for a scapegoat.  They want somebody
for it.  They don't want to admit that they are in the wrong and these three
are just the unlucky ones."

Danny Pettigrew served over two and a half years in prison charged with
attempted murder.  His release has left him a free man, but entitled to no
compensation for the time spent in prison.

All seven young men have from the very beginning protested their innocence of
any involvement in the coffee-jar attack on a RUC Land Rover in August 1991.

Three years after their arrest, Michael Beck, Hugh McLaughlin and Tony Garland
were all earlier this month ordered by the judge to stand trial for the
attack.  On the opening day of that trial, on Monday, 19 September, an extra
34 charges were dropped against Hugh McLaughlin.  All of these charges,
including one of IRA membership, had been held over him for three years on the
basis solely of his forced "confession".  But despite this dramatic collapse
of charges against him, McLaughlin still faces the attempted murder charge.
The four who have been released won their freedom at the pre-trial stage,
which dragged on for three years.  The young men and their families have won
the support of Amnesty International, Helsinki Watch, TDs, MPs, members of the
US Congress and other justice groups.

Two days after his 17th birthday, Danny Pettigrew was arrested and brought to
Castlereagh.  He described to AP/RN something of his ordeal there in the two
days before he eventually signed a statement: "One of the RUC interrogators,
Richard Smyth, came into the interview room.  He hung his coat on the camera
and told me,'I don't care if you stand, sit or stand on your head, I'm still
going to beat your bollocks in'."

Pettigrew continued to deny all involvement, but his interrogator insisted
that he was guilty.  He says that he was physically assaulted by Smyth and his
co-interrogator, Carol McChesney, while another, Gary Kirkpatrick, following
the sectarian killing of a Belfast woman, implied to Pettigrew that his mother
could have been the victim.

"The worst of all was the mental," says Pettigrew.  "Getting hit I could deal
with, but I was always thinking, what's going to happen next?  You start
remembering all the horror stories you heard on the outside and put them all
together in your head."

Danny Pettigrew's most frightening moment in the Crumlin Road Jail was when
the loyalist prisoners went on a rampage and staged a rooftop protest.
Pettigrew was sharing a cell with Michael Beck at the time and they found
their cell surrounded by loyalists trying to get in at them.  Just as the
loyalists were breaking in, with the two young nationalists holding picture
boards up against the wall in a last desperate bid to keep them out, they were
finally rescued by the screws.  "I was really scared for my life at that time,"
he said.

Shortly afterwards the young men were moved to Long Kesh.

When Danny Pettigrew was released at Crumlin Road Courthouse earlier this month
he did not know until the screws went to lead his three friends away that he
had been freed.  "It was hard seeing them.  It should have been a time for
celebration, but at that time I could find no emotion for celebration because
I knew that they were going back to Long Kesh."

"For now it's just a case of fighting on until the lads are also released,"
said Danny Pettigrew.  "They've been in jail for over three years now and they
are completely innocent."

1252.69Letter from Senator Frank Lautenberg to Warren ChristopherKOALA::HOLOHANFri Oct 07 1994 16:5734
Letter from Senator Frank Lautenberg to Warren Christopher:

Dear Secretary Christopher:

"I am writing regarding Hugh McLaughlin, Michael beck and Anthony Murphy, the
remaining members of the original "Ballymurphy Seven" being held in
connection with a 1991 bomb attack on British security forces in Northern
Ireland.

Reports from respected international human rights organizations raise
disturbing allegations of legal and human rights violations surrounding the
arrest, interrogation and detention of these and other prisoners being held
by U.K. authorities in Northern Ireland.  Like the four members of the
Ballymurphy seven already released by UK authorities, McLaughlin, Beck and
Murphy have recanted their confessions.  These confessions, which form the
principal basis for their upcoming prosecution, allegedly were obtained at
Castlereigh Interrogation Center under physical and emotional duress.

I believe that the cause of peace in Northern Ireland is best served by
conciliation and political dialogue.  Under the circumstances, I ask that you
instruct our Embassy in London and our Consulate General in Belfast to
inquire with UK authorities at appropriately high levels to determine what,
if anything, about the cases of McLaughlin, Beck and Murphy is materially
different from those of the other members of the Ballymurphy Seven released
earlier.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.  I look forward to your
response.

                                                               Sincerely,

                                                        Frank R. Lautenberg

1252.70BALLYMURPHY THREE RELEASED ON BAILKOALA::HOLOHANWed Nov 02 1994 09:1077


               BALLYMURPHY THREE RELEASED ON BAIL

DUBLIN - After more than three years on remand, the Ballymurphy
 Three walked out of court on bail yesterday. Belfast's Crumlin Road
 courthouse erupted as they passed through, one by one, to finalize
 the paperwork that would secure their release - for the time being
 at least.  Tearful campaigners and mothers hugged each other as they
 waited to take the young men home.

Hugh Patrick McLaughlin and Michael Beck, both 21, and 20-year-old
 Anthony Garland face charges of attempted murder relating to a
 coffee jar bomb attack on a British army vehicle in August 1991.
 They - along with four others released on two separate occasions
 earlier this year - had pleaded not guilty to the allegations.

All the defendants claimed confessions had been obtained from them
 after mistreatment during questioning by the RUC (Royal Ulster
 Constabulary) at Castlereagh. They were christened the Ballymurphy
 Seven by campaigners for their release.

The number dropped to three when four were acquitted after a court
 ruling that the evidence against them was inadmissible.

Yesterday morning, the three remaining men had arrived in court half
 expecting and half hoping that the case would Come to an end.

On Monday several boxes of documents and evidence which the
 prosecution had stated earlier this year did not exist, were
 produced in court. Lawyers for the three men told Mr, Justice Kerr
 that, had they been given access to the evidence when it was asked
 for, the whole complexion of the defense have been different.

On Tuesday, a formal application for acquittal was made following a
 submission that the three defendants could not possibly receive a
 fair trial.

In his ruling to the court, Mr. Justice Kerr said the failure to
 disclose the documents had "raised serious concerns."

However, he would need to see examples of the documents to assess
 whether or not their disclosure would have affected the course of
 the case.

After an hour of consultation, defense lawyers argued it would take
 quite some time as there were at least 10 boxes of statements and
 documents to wade through.

Meanwhile, they applied for bait citing changes in the attitude of
 the crown, which had opposed it on all previous occasions. Granting
 bail, the judge said: It does appear to me to be in the interests of
 justice to accede to the application which has been made.

"In the unique circumstances of the present case, it seems to me
 that justice would be best served by the granting of bail."
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1252.71Irish prisoners in the USKOALA::HOLOHANThu Dec 15 1994 12:10104

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Dec. 13, 1994

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Adams to White House: "Release Irish Political Prisoners in U.S."
                         by Sandy Boyer

     Throughout his Washington visit last week Gerry Adams urged
the Clinton Administration to move to free Irish political
prisoners in the United States. He made a presentation on the
prisoners to National Security Advisor Anthony Lake in their
White House meeting. He returned to the issue of the prisoners in
subsequent meetings at the State Department and with Senators
Kennedy and Dodd and Congressman Benjamin Gilman, the incoming
chair of the House Foreign Relations Committee.

     Adams told everyone that the lack of progress for the
prisoners was very disturbing to the Irish community in America.
He said the treatment of the H-Block 4 and Mixey Martin, among a
number of other cases was sharply at odds with Clinton's campaign
promise that there would be no political interference in
extradition cases.

                             Appeal

     The government is presently appealing Judge Barbara
Caulfield's ruling denying extradition for Jimmy Smyth of the
H-Block 4. In the past they repeatedly appealed decisions to
release him on $1.5 million bail.

     Mixey Martin is presently imprisoned in London on a United
States extradition warrant. The government wants to try him for
allegedly attempting to purchase weapons for the IRA in Florida,
together withSeamus Moley and Kevin McKinley.

     Bail has been repeatedly opposed "on behalf of the United
States government." Everyone familiar with the case agrees that
there is virtually no evidence against Martin.

                             Docket

     Adams gave the government a detailed docket on nineteen
Irish political casses either in United States jails or pending
trial, extradition or deportation. In each case he provided the
name, the nature of the proceedings, the remedy being sought, and
the attorney's name, address and phone number.

                           Bad Faith

     He cited numerous incidents of government bad faith. Judges
granted political asylum to both Jim Barr and Paul Campbell. The
government is appealing both cases, trying to deport them to the
North of Ireland. Patrick Maguire and his wife Mary lived in the
United States peacefully for over a decade. Their four children
were born here. Two months after the IRA cease fire, Ins agents
arrested him. The government arrested him.

     The government initially succeeded in having him imprisoned
because he couldn't raise $100,000 bail. At both the White House
and the State Department Adams requested that the administration
prepare a detailed response so that the Irish community will know
exactly what they are prepared to do. He asked for a follow-up
meeting between Sinn Fein and the Justice Department to go over
each case individually.

                             Start

     Gerry Adams' Washington visit represents an excellent start
to a concerted campaign to free all Irish political prisoners in
the United States. But those who care about the prisoners can't
just sit back and leave everything to the Sinn Fein president.

     Before Christmas each of us needs to communicate with our
senators and our members of congress, asking them to request
Justice Department action on behalf of the prisoners. This is the
best present we can give these prisoners.

     The House and Senate Judiciary Committees have special
influence with the Justice Department. Henry Hyde (R-IL) will be
the new chair of the House Committee, with Orin Hatch (R-UT)
taking over in the senate. If there is not substantial progress
by the new year, I believe we will have to plan for a long-term
campaign to free the prisoners. The kind of coordinated
demonstrations that helped free the "Guildford 4," the
"Birmingham 6," and the South African political prisoners should
be an important part of that effort.

     Gerry Adams has put the administration and the congress on
notice. The Irish political prisoners in America cannot be
ignored!

1252.72News on the last three members of the "Ballymurphy Seven"KOALA::HOLOHANWed Mar 08 1995 10:0429

from the Irish Emigrant (3/6/95)

COURTS

-The last three members of the "Ballymurphy Seven" were acquitted at
 Belfast Crown Court on Friday.  Hugh McLaughlin (21), Tony Garland
 (20) and Michael Beck (21) were freed by Justice Brian Kerr who,
 according to an RTE reporter, acted in a "mean-spirited and
 begrudging fashion".  In his jugdement Justice Kerr dismissed the
 allegations of ill-treatment by the RUC, accused the three of
 "concocting" stories of maltreatment, and only acquitted them because
 the prosecution had "inadvertently" failed to make ten boxes of
 written case evidence available to counsel for the defence.  Their
 four co-accused were released at different times as the confessions
 which they were alleged to have made were considered unsafe.  All
 seven were picked up because they were in the vicinity of an
 attempted attack on the security forces.  The RUC say that they
 subsequently confessed to acting as lookouts for the IRA who carried
 out the attack.  The seven youths spent between 24 and 40 months in
 custody.

-IRA jailbreaker Joe Doherty has lost his battle to have nine years
 which he spent in custody in New York considered as part of his
 sentence.  Doherty was eventually extradited to the North in 1992 and
 will not now be due for release until 2002.


1252.73Address of Irish Political Prisoners & POWs in the USAKOALA::HOLOHANTue Apr 11 1995 10:4998
  FYI:  In case any of you don't remember, Richard Johnson is a fellow engineer
  who lived in the Nashua area (worked down at Mitre).  The FBI tapped the
  public phones at exit 1 (Royal Crest Mall) to entrap him, or so I've heard.

                               Mark



     Address of Irish Political Prisoners & POWs in the USA


                        Kevin Barry Artt
                            33020-198
                        F.D.C. Camp Parks
                        5675 Eight Street
                        Dublin, CA  94568

                            *********

                           Pol Brennan
                             UGM 818
                     U.S. Marshall Prisoner
                        Oakland City Jail
                        611 Broadway DF13
                       Oakland, CA  94601

                           **********

                         Richard Johnson
                            17422-038
                     Allenwood F.C.I (Med.)
                          P.O Box 2000
                      Whitedeer, PA  17887

                           ***********

                           Terry Kirby
                            88533-011
                        F.D.C. Camp Park
                        5675 Eight Street
                        Dublin, CA  94568

                           ***********

                          Eamon McGuire
                     Allenwood F.C.I (Med.)
                          P.O. Box 2000
                      Whitedeer, PA  17887

                          ************

                         Gerry McGeough
                            37768-053
                         F.C.I. Fairton
                          P.O. Box 420
                       Fairton, NJ  08320

                          *************

                         Martin Quigley
                            41064-066
                     Allenwood F.C.I. (med.)
                          P.O. Box 2000
                      Whitedeer, PA  17887

                          ************

                         Michael Martin
                            03360-196
                  Federal Correction Institute
                         8901 So. Wilmot
                      Tucson, Arizona 86700

                          ************

                           Jimmy Smyth
        (free on bail. currently contesting extradition)
           c/o San Francisco H-Block Defense Committee
                   546 Mission Street, Box 659
                    San Francisco, CA  94105

                          *************

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1252.74who gives a toss?CBHVAX::CBHLager LoutTue Apr 11 1995 14:450
1252.75METSYS::THOMPSONTue Apr 11 1995 15:246
Out of interested, what did Richard Johnson do to get into so much
trouble?

Thks
Mark
1252.76one for irish humour as well i thinkKERNEL::BARTHURWed Apr 12 1995 07:484
    probably nothing according to Holohan! He was "entrapped" by the FBI.
    tut tut what will they get up to next? imagine bugging a poor innocent
    man and sending him to jail. In the land of the free as well? my
    goodness me.
1252.77KOALA::HOLOHANFri Apr 14 1995 09:476
  He was taped by the FBI discussing the construction of surface to
  air missiles with a friend from north east Ireland.  For that he
  was given 10 years.

                    Mark
1252.78KIRKTN::SNEILJ.A.F.OFri Apr 14 1995 17:317
    
    
    ....The wee soul.
    
    
    
    
1252.79Political prisoner, Jimmy SmythGYRO::HOLOHANWed Jun 26 1996 10:0363
                           [Friends of Sinn Fein]

                                25 June 1996

                                ACTION ALERT

                            CALLING ALL ACTIVISTS

The Supreme Court refused to hear escaped Irish political prisoner Jimmy
Smyth's appeal for asylum.

The decision means that the FBI could pick Jimmy up at any moment and send
him into the arms of the British forces in Belfast. A decision from Clinton
or Warren Christopher as Secretary of State are the only options to keep
Jimmy from being extradited.

Sinn Fein is issuing an urgent action alert calling for phone calls, faxes
and emails to the White House. Clinton can (and should be quoted by all
calling) as saying ``there will be no more Joe Doherty cases''

                           Adams appeals for Smyth

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                  Call the White House at: (202) 456-1414

                   Fax the White House at: (202) 456-2461

             e-mail the President at: [email protected]

                           Mail your letters to:

                           President Bill Clinton,
                              The White House,
                          1600 Pennsylvania Avenue,
                          NW Washington, DC 20500

                         Make your voices heard!!!

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     Please also Contact your Congresspeople and Senators asking them
     to support Jimmy Smith.

                             Go raibh maith agat

                          Make Our Voices Heard!!!

                             SUPPORT JIMMY SMITH

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1252.80CHEFS::COOPERT1tell mum before you go somewhereWed Jun 26 1996 10:084
    Can anybbody tell me what this bloke is wanted for?
    
    
    CHARLEY
1252.81BIS1::MENZIESResume the Ceasefire!!!Wed Jun 26 1996 10:318
    He admits to being a Nationalist and a memeber of Sinn Fein but he
    denys membership of the IRA. He was arrested and sent to the maze
    prison for his alleged involvement in the murder of a British Soldier,
    killed during an IRA shootout. He escaped the maze along with 30 odd
    others and was recaptured in America where he was married and living
    under an assumed name. He has always protested his innocence.
    
    Shaun.
1252.82CHEFS::COOPERT1tell mum before you go somewhereWed Jun 26 1996 10:501
    Thanks.