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Title: | Celt Notefile |
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Created: | Wed Feb 19 1986 |
Last Modified: | Tue Jun 03 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1632 |
Total number of notes: | 20523 |
1115.0. ""Swell place, got oppressed ...... "" by MACNAS::TJOYCE () Fri Aug 21 1992 06:22
"SWELL PLACE, GOT OPPRESSED, WISH YOU WERE HERE"
Jack Holland
Many years ago, in a facetious mood, I concocted an idea for attracting
visitors to Northern Ireland - a sort of Revolutionary Tours scheme.
Revolutionary tourists would be taken on a tour of the republican
"ghettos", provided with a revolutionary tourist kit which would
include bomb-making equipment. The guarantee that there would be
at least one riot in which visitors could participate. And, with
the co-operation of the RUC, the tourists could experience a
little bit of oppression.
Mind you, nothing too hurtful, involving lesions, broken bones,
or serious bruises. No - I was thinking on nothing more that a
rougher-than-usual search that would enable the revolutionary
tourist to include on his or her postcard home: "Was on Falls
Road today - swell place - got oppressed - wish you were here."
I never did approach the Northern Ireland Tourist Board with
this scheme. But it still comes to mind every August with the
Irish Northern Aid Committee (Noraid) tour group arrives from
the United States. In fact, when I look at the itinerary, I
think someone from Noraid has stolen my idea.
Not for the Noraid people the glories of the Giant's Causeway,
the Mountains of Mourne, or Fermanagh's lakes. Nor do they get
their thrills crossing Carrick-a-Rede rope bridge. They get
their excitement elsewhere.
They hit all the Republican hot spots - places such as West Belfast,
South Armagh and the Bogside. Eschewing B&Bs they board with
republican families in republican areas. They are feted at
republican drinking clubs, where they can listen to rousing
songs of rebellion into the wee hours. They get a chance to meet
the likes of Gerry Adams and other Sinn Fein bigwigs to hear
how the struggle is getting along.
Though normally they don't get involved in riots - which are,
after all, a thing of the past - they do enjoy some "special
features" now and again. On one occasion some years back,
as the tour bus drove through a stretch of "bandit country",
it was stopped at a Provisional IRA checkpoint and a masked
and armed member of that organisation boarded the bus to
pose for photographs.
Radical chic, Noraid style. There are, I suppose, vicarious
thrills to be derived from being close to a real gunman,
however staged the circumstances. One can imagine the
happy Noraid tourist opening the family photograph album
to display the memories of the Irish tour:
"This one's our favourite. That's me next to one of the boys.
It was so exciting! Being real close like that, you know,
you feel like part of the struggle. And he was such a sweet
guy! I asked him for his autograph, you know, but for security
reasons he couldn't give it. I mean - those guys know how to
operate."
Travel, they say, broadens the mind. However, in this case,
it might just be having the opposite effect. It prompts
one to ask just how much a learning experience for Irish-Americans
this sort of trip is.
There is nothing wrong with Irish-Americans seeing for themselves
what places are really like which are usually only in the news
when political and sectarian violence has claimed another victim.
For a start, unless they are completely blinkered they will
come away agreeing that the Falls Road area is not as awful a
place as they might have thought.
A few hundred yards beyond the sinister fortress that is the
Andersonstown police station, bristling as it is with the
best in high-tech spying devices, are two huge shopping
malls, the Kennedy Centre and Westwoods. They serve the
Andersonstown area, which is mainly working-class and
Catholic. One contains a complex of cinemas and both offer
as impressive a array of goods and services as could be
found in a typical suburb of New York or New Jersey.
Of the two, the Kennedy Centre seem to do the most business.
Any time I have been there, it is swarming with shoppers
whose trolleys are laden with goods. Yet, it is in the
heart of West Belfast, the homeland of the Provisional
IRA and the powerbase for Sinn Fein, a "ghetto" that some
people would have you believe is a scene of unrelieved
economic desolation and human misery.
That is not to say that economic hardship is not real, that
oppression and suffering don't exist on the Falls. But they
are part of a much larger picture, which Irish-Americans
have to see in its entirety if they are to get a balanced
view of life in Northern Ireland.
How would Americans feel about a bunch of Europeans arriving
on an "American tour" only to restrict their excursions to
the South Bronx and Harlem? Probably they would not be too
happy. They would quite legitimately point out that a
visitor who confined himself to New York's worst ghettos
could not be said to have obtained a balanced idea of what
life was like throughout the the rest of New York, never
mond the whole country, though they are indeed an important
part of that reality.
Likewise, the reality of Northern Ireland consists of more
than what the visitors might see on the Falls Road or in
South Armagh.
If they see nothing but nationalist enclaves, regardless of
how pleasant or unpleasant they turn out to be, obviously
they will emerge from their visit with a very narrow view
of life there. Unfortunately it is one which conforms with
the rather simplistic analysis of the Northern Ireland
problem that goes down all too well in certain Irish-American
circles. The political struggle is seen as merely a continuation
of the war of 1919 to 1921, another phase in the struggle
between the Boys of the Old Brigade and the Black and Tans.
In this view of things, Northern Protestants don't figure,
except as pawns manipulated by the British. Loyalist
hostility to republicanism is not regarded as an
independent factor in the Northern equation. Perhaps if the
Noraid tour organisers stopped off on the Shankill road for
a few hours they'd be less likely to discount that
hostility in future.
Recently, I took some French friends on a trip around Belfast.
We visited Castlecourt shopping centre on Royal Avenue in the
heart of the city. One of them, an architect, was most impressed,
saying he had seen nothing quite as nice in France. Yet he was
also jarred by the presence of armed soldiers on the streets.
Both are part of Northern Ireland's strange reality. To pretend
one or other does not exist is like ignoring the realities of
loyalism: it leads to gross distortion of the Northern situation.
In Maurice O'Sullivan's "Twenty Years A-Growing", an old island
lady, after taking her first trip to the mainland, is quoted
as saying: "He who travels has tales to tell." Unfortunately,
those travellers who set out with fixed ideas about what they
are going to see usually have only one tale to tell and it
invariably turns out to be a most unbalanced one.
[Jack Holland is the author of several books on Northern Ireland,
including "The American Connection: US Guns, Money and Influence
in Northern Ireland" (Poolbeg Press). His latest novel "The Eire
Queen" was published by the ROC imprint of Viking Penguin in
New York last month.]
- IRISH TIMES, 13/8/92
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1115.1 | | TOPDOC::AHERN | Dennis the Menace | Fri Aug 21 1992 09:29 | 11 |
| Having discovered that my Mother's people came from Co. Antrim, I fully
intend to visit the North on my next journey. This could be as early
as a week from tomorrow, depending on what happens Monday morning when
our group expects to get whacked.
Seeing as how this trip will likely be of an extended duration, I will
no doubt visit many areas that the average tourist avoids.
Unfortunately, circumstance may preclude my reporting back on what I
find.
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1115.2 | Does Jack Holland work for the British Tourist Board, do you Toby? | EPIK::HOLOHAN | | Fri Aug 21 1992 13:01 | 50 |
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Northern Ireland Tourist Board:
Part of Britain's Anti-Irish Counter-Insurgency Strategy
By Sandy Carlson
Earlier this year, the Northern Ireland Tourist Board, a semi-state
British government-funded body, announced that "unique selling points
must be developed" within the industry to attract tourist to the north.
The Board identifies international interest in the conflict in Ireland
as one such unique point. The Tourist Board has said, "The opportunity
to harness this 'curiousity factor' should not be overlooked as a
positive factor in encouraging people to visit and understand Northern
Ireland." Thus the Tourist Board hopes to turn the largest deterent to
tourism into a tourist attraction. The tourist Board says that the
image of Northern Ireland as a "troubled area" is "undoubtedly the
primary weakness" to hinder the growth of tourism.
While the Board's interest in creating jobs may be viewed as admirable,
their desire to exploit human suffering to bring in tourist dollars is
reprehensible, at best.
This proposal must also be viewed in the context of British
counter-insurgency in Ireland. In other words, how would such a project
promote a positive view of British participation in Irish affairs? If
the Tourist Board follows the example of the British-government-funded
University of Ulster's approach to attracting foreign students, the
Board will promote the point that the war in Ireland is more hype than
reality. The Board, like the university, will suggest that all this
talk of conflict and danger and "troubles" is no more than rumor. The
Board will also suggest that those who oppose the government's
undemocratic violations of civil, human, and national rights are a mere
fringe group without any real argument or reason for complaint.
It is very likely that the Board's approach to the fringe benefit of
such tourist income -- an increase public "understanding" of "Northern
Ireland" -- will fit in very neatly with the British government's
counter-insurgency strategy; sap the government's opponents of their
support so that those opponents will lose support and strength and fade
away.
When the British government implements this "come see the troubles"
strategy, all individuals and groups who have campaigned for human
rights, fair employment legislation, and an honest understanding of
Ireland's past and present should be prepared to be classified as
fanatics on the fringe, IRA supporters, and the uninformed. After all,
we, as supporters of human rights and good government, are part of
Britain's opposition and, therefore, the subjects of British
counter-insurgency.
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1115.3 | References? | ABSISG::MORRIS | Tom Morris - IVV Voice Engineering | Fri Aug 21 1992 22:54 | 5 |
| It would be useful to have references for the publications that
articles are extracted from. A couple of words on the author's
background would help for those of us who aren't familiar with them.
Tom
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1115.4 | More Nutters .... | MACNAS::TJOYCE | | Mon Aug 24 1992 06:39 | 61 |
| NEW YORK PRAYERS FOR THE "FIGHTING MEN OF IRELAND"
From Joe O'Connor, New York
An anniversary Mass for Bobby Sands and the other nine republican
hunger strikers who died 11 years ago was held in St Patrick's
Cathedral on Fifth Avenue last Thursday.
The highlight of the event, organised by Cody McColohan a senior
figure in New York's Brehon Law Society, was a sermon by Limerick
born Fr Pat Moloney:
"I want to pray this evening for those ten brave men who were
MURDERED, " - he raised his voice and all the homeless people
dozing at the back woke up - "MURDERED by British tyranny."
He wanted us to pray "for the fighting men of Ireland who are
our last hope against British wickedness." He railed against
the "puppet politicians in the so-called Free State, putting on
their dirty, stinking happy smiles."
Then ne remembered ANOTHER jail: "And may Christ destroy that
Bastille in the heart of Ireland, Port Laoise Prision." Fr
Moloney bashed the pulpit before ending with a final prayer
for the IRA: "that god may give strength to their arms."
and returned to the altar and resumed saying Mass.
The event was followed by a reception (with more speakers)
in the Manhattan Club on Seventh Avenue. A young man from
Co. Tyrone who said he had been arrested in Germany for
alleged terrorist activities and had been beaten up and
falsely imprisoned, used the religious imagery once
favoured by Patrick Pearse. "Like Christ," he said
"the Irish people will rise again." There were cheers.
"Like Mary, Queen of the Gael," he cried out "we will
crush the serpent of British tyranny." (more cheers)
"The spawn of Satan, Margaret Hilda Thatcher, was nearly
flushed out of her hotel and into the English channel."
The little crowd erupted. "There will be more surprises
for the Brits in the months to come" he assured us
"please be to God."
Fr Moloney seemed to be enjoying the speech . When it
was put to him that his views were arguably contrary to
Christianity, and would almost certainly be anathema to
the vast majority of the Irish people, north and south,
he shook his head sadly.
He had been in the "Free State" a year ago and spent a
good deal of time driving around and picking up hitchhikers.
"And I asked them all what they thought about a United
Ireland, and, do you know, they nearly all agreed with
me."
How many hitchhikers had he picked up during his investigation
of Irish opinion? "Over 500." he said "504 to be precise and
they nearly all agreed with me".
- Sunday Tribune, 23/8/92
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1115.5 | A comment | MACNAS::TJOYCE | | Mon Aug 24 1992 06:47 | 21 |
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Jack Holland is a free-lance writer, and personally I found his
article so witty and provocative that I though it deserved to
be inserted here.
After all we have seen plenty of "Been there, was oppressed.."
stories in these notes, and I am just wondering how seriously
we should take them.
After all it is oh so easy to come to a place like Northern
Ireland with a major chip on your shoulder, spend your
time collecting oppression stories (I believe behavioural
psychologists call this "stamp collecting") and return
with that chip, which may have been slipping, nice
and firmly in place again.
The Sunday Tribune piece is just a reminder that a minority
of Irish people and Irish-Americans are as fanatical, bigoted
and dangerous as the Nazis or the Ku Klux Klan.
Toby
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1115.6 | | BONKIN::BOYLE | | Mon Aug 24 1992 08:46 | 15 |
| Toby,
I go away for a week and come back to find you've been on a typing
frenzy. Is this a last ditch attack on all those who hold opposite views
to yours or have you suddenly found a heap of 'funny' articles that
you'd like to share.
>The Sunday Tribune piece is just a reminder that a minority
>of Irish people and Irish-Americans are as fanatical, bigoted
>and dangerous as the Nazis or the Ku Klux Klan.
Just glad there are no English people like that.
Tony :-)
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1115.7 | Yes, .... | MACNAS::TJOYCE | | Tue Aug 25 1992 06:37 | 16 |
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Tony,
Alas you are correct on both counts - I have a lot of time
on my hands and the hour may soon be nigh when I switch
off my terminal for the last time.
However, I like to think I am not attacking anyone. I believe
that CELT noters are capable of rational argument, and like
a reasoned case, spiced with some wit and plenty of vigour.
Their minds are capable of change, and so I believe is mine.
So why not try to change minds, and discuss the points made,
instead of worrying about who made them?
Toby
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1115.8 | | BONKIN::BOYLE | | Tue Aug 25 1992 08:41 | 23 |
| Toby,
>Alas you are correct on both counts - I have a lot of time
>on my hands and the hour may soon be nigh when I switch
>off my terminal for the last time.
Lets hope that doesn't come for a long time. I've seen so many noters
go in the last 12 months that I'm beginning to think it's a conspiracy
to get rid of employee-intrest notesfiles.
>However, I like to think I am not attacking anyone. I believe
I don't think you are either. I enjoy reading your notes, even those I
don't agree with.
>So why not try to change minds, and discuss the points made,
>instead of worrying about who made them?
I agree with you. I just wanted to provide you with some feedback
otherwise you might think that no one is reading your notes and stop
entering them, thus depriving us of your wit and wisdom :-)
Tony.
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