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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

1069.0. "What is the Violated Treaty?" by TUXEDO::MOREY () Thu Jun 11 1992 15:22

    
    
    	Would any of you history buffs know about a term I've
    	come by recently.....
    
    	       Limerick......city of the Violated Treaty.
    
    	I would love to know what it refers to and what is it's meaning?
    
    	Mary
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1069.1DELNI::CULBERTFree Michael CulbertThu Jun 11 1992 15:5118
    
    Actually the true spelling is 'violated tree tea'.  Limerick got the name
    when in 1766 the some highway men 'violated' some innocent irish gals that
    were drinking 'tea' under a 'tree' in town center...  big  8*)'s
    
    Only because it has gotten much to serious in here as of late and
    I wish ALL parties to calm down adn try to be civil.
    
    There is a point when all good works are destroyed by a few boiled over
    tempers and ego's that seem much to large.
    
    Sorry to use your note for this Mary.  Now maybe someone can give you
    the real answer.
    
    paddy 
    
    (who has been out of touch for too long, only because work got in the way)
    
1069.2If it were only treatiesSIOG::FARRELLFri Jun 12 1992 07:0515
    
    Good to see your back in action Paddy. If it was only treaties that
    they violated in Limerick, it would be ok. However, just take one look
    at that monster O'Sullivan and you'll see just how bad they violate
    things, then, listen to Master O'Sullivan attempting to play the tin
    whistle, now, thats violating. 
    
    What you you call a group of sheep tied to a pole in Limerick
    
    
    
    The Leisure Centre.
    
    - Joe
     
1069.3Does Dermot still have that ^&$#@ Tin Whistle !!HILL16::BURNSAn Cl�rFri Jun 12 1992 09:3312
    
    
    I think the Leisure Center was located in an area known as "The Palace"
    
    :-)
    
    
    
    
    
    keVin
    
1069.4LimerickMACNAS::TJOYCEMon Jun 15 1992 06:5939
    
    Mary,
    
    The Treaty referred to is the agreement that ended the Williamite
    Wars in Ireland of 1688-1691. This began with the deposition of
    Catholic James II as King of England in favour of his son-in-law
    William of Orange. 
    
    Highlights of the war in Ireland are the Siege of Derry, the
    Battle of the Boyne, the Siege of LImerick and the Battle of 
    Aughrim. This last battle spelt the decisive defeat of the 
    Jacobite forces, leading to surrender at Limerick later
    that year.
    
    The agreement (among other things) granted a measure of
    religious toleration to Catholics, but was never ratified
    by the victorious Williamites, who soon began to pass
    a vicious series of laws against Catholics (called the
    Penal Laws). Thus began the days of the Protestant
    Ascendancy in Ireland which were to last until Catholic 
    Emancipation in 1828 granted the vote to Catholics.
    Towards the end of 19th century the Land Acts passed
    by Gladstone and other enlightened English leaders
    also allowed Irish Catholic tenant farmers to gain
    ownership of most of the land of Ireland.
    
    The only mitigation for the Penal Laws is that every
    Catholic country in Europe at that time displayed similar
    intolerance to Protestants. However, this was small
    comfort to the Irish at that era who had fought a 
    good fight and deserved to retain the rights they
    had before James II became king.
    
    Limerick has always retained the name "City of the
    Broken Treaty". Last year it celebrated the 300th
    anniversary of the Siege and Treaty.
    
    Toby
    Toby
1069.5More violations by LimerickDBOSW2::BRENNAN_MFestina LenteMon Jun 15 1992 07:0510
You can add to that more violation. What Limerick did to poor Waterford 
yesterday comes under the same heading. Daylight highway robbery is perhaps
the best name for it.

I also noted theat CLARE "hurlers" are still suffering from that old disease -
namely they think a hurley is a pan-shovel. They got enough chances in the
junior Munster hurling championship in the last 10 minutes to win 3 matches. In
the end they only drew the match.

MBr