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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
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1029.0. "Sinn Fein back off from IRA campaign" by MACNAS::TJOYCE () Tue Mar 31 1992 05:38

    
    "Adams says old phrase is out of date"
    
    Mark Brennock, Northern Editor, Irish Times, 31/3/92
    
    The famous phrase about the Armalite and the ballot box is out of date,
    Mr. Gerry Adams explained during yet another heavy questioning session
    about his and his party's attitude violence yesterday.
    
    The occasion was the launch of Sinn Fein's election manifesto. Two 
    dozen journalists and technicians gathered in West Belfast for the
    familiar jousting and tortuous intellectual gymnastics about the
    support (or otherwise) given to the IRA and the right (or otherwise) 
    of Sinn Fein to be involved in talks.
    
    Those press conferences follow a familiar circuituous route. 
    The only unfamiliar sight was the plethora of microphones and 
    cameras. The broadcasting ban is lifted in NI and Britain for 
    the duration of the campaign. For these 3 weeks, Sinn Fein gets
    to be seen and heard.
    
    After brief introductory remarks from Mr Adams and Mr Martin
    McGuinness, the journalists settled down to the usual line of
    questioning, and the usual line of answers:
    
    Q:	Does Sinn Fein support the IRA?
    
    A:	We believe that Irish people have the right to resort to armed 
        struggle in the circumstances that exist in Northern Ireland, but
        we do not advocate violence.
    
    Q:  Does Sinn Fein want the IRA to stop its campaign of violence?
    
    A: 	We want to see the end of all violence whatever its source.
    
    Q: 	What about the barman in Robinsons' who lost his job as a result
        of an IRA bomb attack?
    
    A:	That's regrettable, but our voters or Sinn Fein can't be made
        accountable for IRA actions.
    
    Q:	But would you like to see such actions stop?
    
    A:	We would like to see an end to all violence, whatever its
        source.
    
    And so it goes on. And so it went on for over 45 minutes.
    
    Mr Morrison's phrase about the Armalite and the ballot box,
    uttered some 10 years ago, is thrown at the party every time
    it tries to distance itself from IRA violence.
    
    It was, Mr Adams declared, out of date. "It wasn't and expression
    of Sinn Fein policy. It was a Sinn Fein Ard Fheis. We were going
    there to argue the need to be involved in electoralism.
    
    "That phrase wasn't voted on. The important thing is that the party
    took an historic decision to get involved in electoral politics."
    
    But after that we went back to the usual stuff. Sinn Fein does not
    support IRA violence, it does not condemn IRA violence. Round
    and round we went while the party's manifesto with policies on 
    nursery education, centralisation of maternity units in NI,
    the European Social Charter, the elderly and other issues remained
    unopened.........
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1029.1CommentMACNAS::TJOYCETue Mar 31 1992 05:4630
    
    While we could get cynical about the above note, I see it as a sign
    of hope.
    
    After all, 10 years ago people like Adams and McGuinness were
    loudly proclaiming unequivocal support for the IRA campaign.
    
    They also regularly call on splinter group like the Irish 
    National Liberation Army (INLA) and the Irish People's 
    Liberation Organisation (IPLO) to cease from violence because
    they have "no mandate". What mandate has the IRA?
    
    A couple of years ago, Martin McGuinness transmited two messages
    which he said came from the IRA high command: there would be
    no more "punishment beatings" in Catholic areas, and no more
    bombings on "economic targets". McGuiness has been made look 
    a fool on both counts, as the IRA has stepped up bombing
    shops, pubs and factories, and punishment attacks ahve not
    abated.
    
    Personally, I think Adams is on the "two steps forward, one
    step back" road to condemning the IRA. After all it is an 
    honourable path in Irish politics, being trod by such men
    as Michael Collins, Eamon De Valera, Sean McBride, and
    Thomas Mac Giolla. 
    
    The sooner the better. The carrot for Sinn Fein is to be
    involved in talks.
    
    Toby
1029.2WMOIS::CHAPLAIN_FTempus Omnia VincitTue Mar 31 1992 08:466
    
    re .0
    
     It seems as though the press are making utter fools of themselves,
    focusing on old inciteful words instead of substantive issues.
    
1029.3Hmmm, look at the U.S. election .....MACNAS::TJOYCESat Apr 04 1992 09:5512
    
    The press in Northern Ireland are more to the point that those
    graduates of the School of Negative Journalism who peddled the
    Gennifer Flowers story about Bill Clinton.
    
    Whether or not you support a violent organisation is a lot
    more relevant that who you slept with.
    
    So I wouldn't think too badly about Mark Brennock and his
    peers. It could be a lot worse.
    
    Toby
1029.4EPIK::HOLOHANMon Apr 06 1992 12:006
  re. .3
   As regarding the British controlled press in
   northern Ireland being to the point (the British
   point that is) they sure are toby.
                            Mark
1029.5!~!!???MACNAS::TJOYCEMon Apr 06 1992 12:537
    
    WHAT! The Irish Times, Press and Independent, as well as RTE, Irish
    News, Cork Examiner, Belfast Newsletter etc........ British controlled?
    
    Is this another bout of paranoia a la  Reverend Des Wilson?
    
    Toby
1029.6WMOIS::CHAPLAIN_FTempus Omnia VincitMon Apr 06 1992 16:0916
    
    re .3
    
     Sorry Toby, yer full of crap.  Justifying stupidity by juxtaposing it
    with ANOTHER stupidity is flawed logic.
    
     And since when did ANYONE claim the American press is any less adept
    at making fools of themselves than their Irish counterparts?  While
    surely Bill Clinton's paramours are an integral part of the American
    approach to achieving global economic parity, the press might miss the
    link and make the story into a lurid tabloid headline. :)
    
     Anyway...I'd be far less inclined to go for sensationalism in the
    north of Ireland than a serious attempt to achieve some lasting peace.
    There's no shortage of lurid headlines there.
     
1029.7Farther away than ever ....MACNAS::TJOYCESun Apr 12 1992 13:5352
    
    Now that the dust has settled and Gerry Adams has to set about
    re-gaining his seat, it must be asked whatever did happen to 
    Sinn Fein?
    
    Ten years ago in the bitter aftermath of the Maze Hunger Strikes,
    Sinn Fein were able to garner 40% of Nationalist votes, something
    like 14-15% of all votes cast in Northern Ireland. Since then 
    their votes have just about halved ........
    
    In retrospect, it can be seen that Sinn Fein needed the emotional
    high of the Hunger Strikes to get off to a flying start. Since
    then it could only go backwards. The strategy of Adams and his
    lieutenants was to capture seats in the Republic's parliament
    and hold a balance of power there. Danny Morrison said "The
    Free State will be decisive ........".
    
    Unfortunately, citizens of the Republic don't like hearing their
    country misnamed ("Free State" is often used in a derogatory sense
    by self-styled "Republicans"). They also disliked a party which
    condoned the IRA - unlike some correspondents to this topic, who
    seem to think this matter irrelevant. HOwever, when two recruits
    to the Irish security forces were killed trying to free a business
    executive who had been kidnapped by the IRA, Adams clearly 
    signalled his position by saying that the IRA were "doing their
    duty", implying somehow that the Irish security forces should
    turn a bling eye to kidnappings for the IRA cause.
    
    To be fair to Adams, it was a real dilemma for him. But he made a
    wrong choice ... perhaps he was ignorant of the attachment that
    the Southern people now have to the institutions of the Irish
    Republic. Since then Sinn Fein was a major loser in the Republic,
    and in election after election its vote has shrunk. Groups like
    New Consensus challenged its authority to speak for Irish people
    anywhere, it is now somehwere on the outer fringe of political 
    acceptability.
    
    As the party's strategy in the South failed and morale slumped,
    so also in the North morale inevitably suffered. By its strategy
    committed to abstention, Sinn Fein was vulnerable to a party
    like the SDLP who could actually get benefits for their 
    constituents. Hence the desperate posturing of Adams in the last
    weeks in sending letters to the UN and the EC, in an effort to
    show progress outside local affairs. But cut off from Inter-Party
    talks by its support for the IRA, and carring the ball and chain of
    IRA atrocities, Sinn Fein has neatly painted itself into a corner.
    
    The motto of Sinn Fein has been "Tiocfaidh ar la" - " Our day will
    come". Come it may, but at the moment it seems farther away than
    ever.
    
    Toby