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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

1028.0. "WHAT RIGHT" by WMOIS::BURGESS_R () Fri Mar 27 1992 16:16

    I am problly going to take a lot of flack for this but I really feel
    the need to say this so here goes.
    
    I beleive that the entier issue of abortions is a womens issue and that
    men have no right interferring in it, after all its not my body that
    get blown out of shape hell it not my body that bleeds every month so
    what right do we have as men to tell women what they can do and can't
    do with it.  Fore god sake what is next men regulating the size of a
    womens breast implant.  I also beleive that no has the right to impose
    there opinion on anyone else as to when life begins this is totally an
    indiviaul belief and should be left up to the women to diside when they
    beleive live begins because after all ultimatelly she is the one that
    will have to live with that dission.
    
    Bob
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1028.1Where life begins is questionable...TALLIS::DARCYSat Mar 28 1992 14:497
    The problem with that argument is that nobody is protecting the
    unborn baby's rights.  It's very possible for children to be born
    several months premature and yet still live.  Would you want to
    abort a pregnancy in the third trimester?  The issue of abortion
    is just not as clear cut as that.
    
    /George
1028.2what IS life?SUPER::DENISEshe stiffed me out of $20.!!!Mon Mar 30 1992 12:2824
    
    	this brings up an interesting occurence....
    	in philadelphia about a week and a half ago the
    	child of a couple was born withough a brain...
    	just a stump at the top of the spinal column, and
    	no skull.
    	there was enough brain stimulation to have the baby's
    	heartbeat continue for an undertermined period of time
    	without assistance.
    	the parents petitioned the court to allow them to have 
    	the baby be available for organ donorship. they weren't
    	permitted as the baby was recording a heartbeat and had
    	been breathing with assistance. doctor's testified on behalf
    	of the parents saying that the child was doomed to die soon
    	and it was only in a vegetative state for an undetermined
    	period of time. the respirator was taken away (court's decision)
    	but now due to medical reasons (atrophy??? it wasn't specified)
    	the organs are not going to be useful to anybody.
    
    	the question that remains is: the parents knew about the extent 
     	of deformity in the third trimester stage.... could they have opted 
    	for a third trimester abortion, knowing in advance that the baby
    	would be refused as a organ donor (as it happened)?
    	
1028.3TIMBER::DENISEshe stiffed me out of $20.!Thu Apr 02 1992 12:424
    
    	re .2
    
    	small correction.... it was in florida, not philadelphia.