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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
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946.0. "Shoot to kill - BBC Documentary" by FORTY2::MOORE (Paul Moore, 7-830-4267, RE02 E/F2) Mon Sep 02 1991 07:45

This is my first opportunity to get into this notesfile for a while, but looking
back at earlier notes, I haven't seen any reference to this topic.

About 4 to 6 weeks back, Panorama I think it was, broadcast a documentary about 
how the BA shot at a car that I think had been stolen by three kids. At the 
time the BA claimed that they retaliated after the car had deliberately tried to
knock them down, and that one soldier had been injured in the incident. I thing
that one of the occupants, a young girl was shot dead, and another was wounded.

The BA's story began to fall apart when an eyewitness noticed after the incident
a soldier hitting another soldier in the leg, apparantly trying to simulate a
hit-and-run type car injury. I believe that the soldiers involved are about to
be prosecuted (if they haven't been already) for trying to obstruct the course
of the inquest that followed the incodent.

Sorry if the details are a bit hazy, but the part that stands out in my mind 
were the celebrations that took place in the barracks after the incident, where
on centre stage they had a car of the same type as that involved in the 
incident (a Vauxhall Astra), with simulated bullet holes and other special
effects, and a big banner overhead proclaiming:
         "Astra,
          Built by robots,
          Driven by joyriders,
          Stopped by C Company"

- Paul
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946.1DELNI::CULBERTFree Michael CulbertWed Sep 04 1991 14:159
    
    Paul,   
    
         I missed the film.  But it sounds like the BA may be up to some 
    'dirty tricks'.  Anyone else heard/seen anything on this.  Sure would
    be interesting to see the outcome.  Probably some promotions are about
    to be awarded again......
      
    paddy
946.2Legal ProblemsMEIS::HURLEYWed Sep 04 1991 15:2611
		IRISH EMIGRANT ISSUE No. 237

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     August 19, 1991          THE IRISH EMIGRANT          Issue No.237

     - RTE had to abandon its plans to screen the "Shoot-to-Kill" 
       documentary, first shown on the Independent Network in Britain 
       two months ago.  Legal action is pending against Yorkshire 
       Television, the makers of the four-hour programme, and it has 
       withdrawn permission for the screening here.
946.3Similar TopicsACTGSF::BURNSIn search of Eternal HoppinessWed Sep 04 1991 15:539
    
    
    	"Hidden Agena" was released on video in the States a few weeks ago.
    
    
    
    
	keVin
    
946.4Similar topicsWREATH::DROTTERThu Oct 24 1991 10:3976
         Ah yes, the putrid smell of Brit Gov. *Dishonesty* & Cover-up
in their never-ending quest to carry out their homicidal policies
in Ireland against the Irish nationalist community.


           Mass. DA, on panel in Ulster shooting, favors trial
                             
                  Kevin Cullen (Boston Globe 10/24/91)


   Essex County Attorney Kevin M. Burke, one of five
international lawyers who presided over an unofficial inquiry
into the shootings of two brothers in Northern Ireland, has
determined there is enough evidence to bring murder charges
against the British soldiers who shot them.

   Burke was one of two Americans on the five-member panel
appointed by a group of human rights lawyers to investigate
the Dec. 30, 1990, shootings of Fergal Caraher, who was killed,
and Michael Caraher, who was seriously wounded.

   The [British] army had initially said the Carahers were shot
because they had sped through a security checkpoint and knocked
down a soldier, but witnesses disputed that account. Many who
dispute the army account believe the brothers were shot because
Fergal Caraher was a member of Sinn Fein, the political party
that supports the Irish Republican Army.

   In his 35-page decision, the first to be rendered, burke not
only recommended that the three British Royal Marines who shot
the Carahers be indicted for murder, but also said the vague and
often contradictory laws and rulings put forth by the British
Government and Northern Irish courts have created an atmosphere
in which deadly force is used too frequently against civilians.

   "Why does the [British] government accept the police and army
standards for the use of deadly force, yet refuse to make the
necessary statutory changes to make the law and policy
consistent?" Burke asked.

   Burke also blamed judges and prosecutors for creating and
perpetuating a confusing body of law on the use of deadly force.

   "The effect of this statutory and case law is to vest
virtually unchecked discretion in the officer to decide whether
to use deadly force 'in the circumstances.' Furthermore, there is
no statement that recognizes the risk of not using deadly force
must outweigh the certain harm to the target of the officers
weapon. The law regarding the use of deadly force by police and
soldiers not only fails to provide protection to ordinary
citizens but may, in fact, jeopardize their lives and safety,"
his decision states.

   Although Burke's findings and those of French, German, and
English civil rights lawyers who presided over th inquiry are not
binding, they are expected to put additional pressure on those
conducting the official investigation into the shootings.

   A spokesman for the Northern Ireland Office, which administers
British governmnet policy, said there would be no comment on the
activities of the groups that organized the two-day hearing last
June in which Burke sat as a judge. Privately, some government
officials have complained that some of those taking part in the
inquiry are political enemies of Britian. 

   In a recent interview, Peter Brooke, the British secretary of
state for Northern Ireland, said he wanted to allow the official
investigation to take its natural course.
   Burke, however, said the failure of authorities to give an
explanation nearly a year after the shootings illustrates how the
Northern Irish justice system undermines its own credibility.

   "I've done literally hundreds of homicide investigations, and
there's just no need for an investigation like this to take this
long."
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