Conference tallis::celt

The best advice I can give you is to aviod Cork altogether. The place is full
of Corkmen, conmen  and other undesirables.

Seriously though it really is up to you. There are lots of places to visit
in the Cork area. Also Kerry is only about an hours drive away. Lots of beaches 
etc and lovely scenery.

Again there is lots to visit on a trip from Dublin to Cork. Cashel in particular
is quite nice. There is a marvellous pub (I could pass one of those) in a little
town called Abbeyleix which is about half way from Cork. Its called Morrisseys. 
Abbeyleis also has a beautiful Gaerdns belonging to the DeVesci Family. They are
cousins of HRH QE2.

Kildare is also worth a visit with Japanese gardens National Stud and lots more
to See.

As to taking six hours to get from Dublin to Cork what are you driving. Dessie 
Fitzgerald here can do it in 1 hour 40 minutes. Only someone as crazy as me 
would get into the car with him though.

Mbr

    
    fwiw......fly to Cork and spend your time touring Cork/Kerry.  The area
    well justifies spending a few days exploring the outstanding scenery. 
    Galway is probably a bit far away (3 hours) unless you intend spending
    a lot of time driving, however, it does justify a seperate trip!  It,
    like Cork, has outstanding scenery and friendly people!
    
    Dublin on the other hand is a large city inhabited by some nice people,
    breweries, bowsies and gurriers.
    
    Mike.
    

Ignore what Mbr said about Cork and Corkmen, and drive from Dublin to
Cork.  I took that route in '88 and made it from Dublin (Raheny) to
Skibbereen in 4.25 hours.  

You might want to take a look at the prison in Portlaoise before you
excessively exceed the speed limit though!  The Rock of Cashel is a must.
Definitely, spend some time in Cork City and see (and hear)'The Bells of 
Shandon', visit the Old Market in Cornmarket Street, and the ambiance of
St. Patrick's Street.

Then head west towards Macroom and Bantry, and travel the Ring of Kerry
and the Dingle peninsula.  Well worth the drive.

I'll be doing the same in June.

Pat

    Play the Bells of Shandon.....  I don't know how the neighbors put
    up with us tourists.....
    
    Dick (who's daughter drove me buggy on the bells....)
    

    If you go to Kerry, there is a lovely beach and golf club overlooking
    the beach.   It is in a place called Barrow, just 8 miles outside
    Tralee.   When you get to Tralee, just follow the sign post to
    Fenit, approx. 4 miles outside Tralee on the Fenit road, you will
    see the sign post for the golf club, just follow the sign posts and
    you will get there with no bother.   The scenery is simply beautiful.
    There is no shortage of B & B'S, also plenty of good pubs.
    
    
    Bernie 

    Thank you all for the information. At this point I don't know if I
    will be going in May or June, but I decided to fly into Cork, and
    advoid the big city of Dublin.
    Pat

    Gru� Di' Pat,
    
    A wise decision indeed........
    
    	- Bernie Murph.....

    
    re: .0
    
    See note 495.17 about all the things you can do or see in Cork.
    
    And as Pat Rushton advised, don't pay any attention to Mbr's note!
    
    Mbr is a good example of what I've said before: there are only two
    kinds of people in the world (and in Ireland for that fact!), 
    
     Those that hail from Cork, and those that wished they did!  :->
    

Q: 	What is the first thing a Cork person does when he/she arrives in Dublin

A	Throw a stone in the Liffey.
	If it floats - said person goes back to Cork.

		Mbr

    
    
    	Mbr: Did you see the Corkman on the Late Late Quizshow last night ??
    
    
    
    	Quizmaster: Johnny if I give you 2 rabbits, a couple of rabbits,
                    and pair of rabbits, how many rabbits would you have ??
    
    
    	Johhny:		7
    
    
    
    	Quizmaster: Let's try this once again ...
    
    
    	If I give you 2 rabbits, a couple of rabbits, and a pair of
        rabbits, how many rabbits would you have ??
    
    
    	Johhny:		7
    
    
    	Quizmaster: Jaysus, lets try to make this simple for you....
    
    	If I gave you 2 pints of Murpyh's, a couple of pints of Murphy's,
    	and a pair of Murpyh's pints, how many pints would you have ??
    
    
    	Johnny:		6
    
    
    	Quizmaster:   CORRECT !!!!
    
    	              Now why is is that when I give you 2 rabbits, a
    	              couple of rabbits and a pair of rabbits you say
                      it equals 7 rabbits ???
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	Johnny: Because I have one rabbit at home      !!!!!!
     
    
    
    
    

    
    
    Well Pat, to be honest, I think it best you avoid Dublin altogether, 
    its big, dirty, noisy, traffic congested, serious lack of pubs, and 
    for the time you have here not worth a day or two. Fly directly to
    Cork, and head off west to West Cork and Kerry, some of the
    beautifulest parts of Ireland. I'd hate to advise you what to do, I
    mean half the fun in travel is discovery. Just wander at a leisurly
    pace, you'd be amazed what you would find.
    
    Have fun....
    
    
            Paul...
    
    

<<and head off west to West Cork and Kerry...

...to the centre of the universe, Ballydehob!

There's a signpost near this village that exemplifies the Celtic way of think-
ing, that there are no straight lines in nature.  On the signpost are two
direction indicators, both for Ballydehob and both for 5 miles in distance,
but in the opposite directions.  So, you can go left or you can go right
and you'll still end up in Ballydehob after 5 miles.  I like that; what goes
round, comes back.
    

Pat,

Obviously you were seeing double on both those nights. I warned you to keep away
from the poteen. It burns brain cells at a tremendous rate.

		MBr

MBr,

	I'll be passing through Kill on my way to West Cork on Sunday,
2 June...you better leave town and seek shelter in Portlaoise.


Pat (the poteen was good, I just couldn't see for days) 

	

One more day and I'll be in Dublin, heading for the best part of Ireland - Cork!

Oh, keVin, I will be flying OVER Clare.  That's good enough, eh?

Joe, I'll hoist a pint in Bishopstown to you.

Paddy, my schedule has been screwed up so this time 'round I'll not be going
to Belfast.

Back on 25 June.


Slan,

Pat

     re: .15
    
     Good man, Pat!!!
    
    
        Make sure it's a pint of MURPHY's Stout, the only *real* Irish
    stout in Ireland. That "Liffy water" *Pales* by comparison (no pun
    intended!) ;^>
    

If that person Rushdon is in Ireland its time for me to get out.

As for that swill MURPHYS its what you get when you pass Guinness through
an Irishman

	MBr

P.S.

KeVin,

I hope you are not leading those two young innocent lads astray now.

    
    
    Mbr: They were well "astray" long before I ever met them !!  :-)
    
    (Ian is actually in the video that was made in Hanlons a few years ago)
    
    The food at Tortilla Flats was not hot enough for them either ...  :-)
    
    
    keVin
    
    

They let me leave Corcaigh airport with all of my luggage!!

I'll post a very short note on my sojorn through Dublin, Cork and Kerry
once I catch up on my work.

You might find the 'bar crawl' through Skibbereen of some interest!

Still recovering...

Pat

    Could somebody post the train times for the Dublin/Cork route for
    Wednesday 23rd December please ?
    
    I need this info today before 2 o'clock please !!!
    
    
    Therese