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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

755.0. "Tom's gone....." by TRIBES::CREAN (Niepriklauskoma Lietuva!) Wed May 09 1990 04:54

    Cardinal Tom�s � Fiaich, Roman Catholic primate of Ireland, died
    suddenly in France yesterday.
    
    He was made primate in 1979. Formerly he was a professor of history.
    He loved every aspect of Ireland: language, literature, music, Gaelic
    games, Guinness, ballads, everything. And the London gutter journalists
    HAAAAATED him.
    
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755.1USWAV1::CHAPLAINWed May 09 1990 05:516
    
     If the London journalists hated him, then he must have been a fine
    fellow.
    
     Here's a glass to him...
    
755.2KAOM25::RUSHTONSupport the Grand Canal!Wed May 09 1990 10:289
My brother, he the priest, knew the primate.  We were hoping to meet him
when we go to Ireland next Spring with my mother.  Rather sad...


Isn't 'London journalists' an oxymoron?


Pat

755.3RUTILE::AUNGIERRen� Aungier, Site Telecoms Manager, DTN 885-6901, @FYOThu May 10 1990 06:057
    I still remember him as walking along with a wounded person on Bloody
    Sunday with a white hankerchief in his hand. He was one of the best
    Ireland have had in a long time.
    
    Go raibh saoirse ar anam.
    
    Ren�
755.4It wasn't him.....TRIBES::CREANNiepriklauskoma Lietuva!Thu May 10 1990 08:155
    Actually, the priest in the 'Bloody Sunday' incident was
    Edward Daly, now bishop of Derry, who indeed resembles
    the late cardinal and who is considered a likely replacement
    for him.
    
755.5USWAV1::CHAPLAINThu May 10 1990 13:4251
    Reprinted from this morning's Boston Herald:
    
    Cardinal Tomas O'Fiaich, primate of Ireland, at 66
    
      Belfast, Northern Ireland - Roman Catholic Cardinal Tomas O'Fiaich,
    the primate of all Ireland and an ardent nationalist, died Tuesday
    after falling ill on a pilgrimage to Lourdes, France, the church
    announced.  He was 66.
      The cardinal, who was head of the church in both the Republic of
    Ireland and Protestant-dominated Northern Ireland, died of cardiac
    arrest in a hospital at Toulouse, 95 miles from Lourdes, officials
    said.
      An announcement of the death, issued by the church's press office
    in both Belfast and Dublin, said Cardinal O'Fiaich had appeared unwell
    to doctors accompanying the group of 600 pilgrims from his seat at
    Armagh in Northern Ireland.
      The cardinal was admitted first to a hospital in Lourdes, then flown
    by helicopter to Toulouse.  Philippe Giovanni, director of the Rangueil
    Hospital there, said Cardinal O'Fiaich died of a "brutal cardiac
    arrest" soon after being admitted.
      While calling for a unified Ireland and criticizing British policy in
    Northern Ireland, Cardinal O'Fiaich, whose name was pronounced O'Fee,
    also castigated the violence of the Irish Republican Army.
      The predominantly Catholic outlawed guerilla army seeks to end
    British rule in Northern Ireland and unite it with the Irish Republic.
    
    [If I hear that sentence one more time I'm gonna spit]
    
      "You can't unite people with bombs and bullets", the cardinal once
    said.
      He was appointed spiritual leader of Ireland's 4 million Catholics in
    1977.  Two years later, Pope John Paul II made Cardinal O'Fiaich one
    of the first cardinals of his papacy.
      In Belfast, Ulster Television suspended scheduled programs for an
    hour and aired a religious program and a news program about the
    cardinal.
      Cardinal O'Fiaich was born Thomas Fee in Cullyhanna, in south Armagh,
    within sight of the border with the Irish Republic.  He changed his
    name to the Gaelic form as his love of the Irish language and nation-
    alist sentiments developed.
      Cardinal O'Fiaich retained close ties to Armagh, which has been
    dubbed "bandit country" because of the IRA activity.
      From the time he became primate, he spoke publicly of his wishes for
    a united Ireland.  He visited IRA guerillas in jail, called the
    British Army's fatal shooting of an Irish civilian murder, and said 
    the border dividing Ireland was "unnatural".
    
    
    The obituary is only semi-literate, I know, but it's only the Herald.
    
                                  
755.6damn squib...MACNAS::DKEATINGCelibacy is NOT Hereditary!Fri May 11 1990 05:3812
    Loyalist and Republican,Catholic and Protestant alike have been
    paying tribute to Cardinal O'Fiaich...with one *noted* exception
    
    
    
    Yup, you've guessed it...Ian Paisley after hearing of his death
    commented "He was the mallet of Rome against the Protestant community
    in Norther Ireland"
    
    Good man Ian...you're day will come!
    
    - Dave K.
755.7Dealers in death!BIRMVX::LONERGANFri May 18 1990 11:4323
    
    
    We"ve come to expect this of Paisley , no one bothers about it or
    him anymore do they?
    
    It sickens me a little however , watching the ceremony in Armagh 
    Cathedral on TV, to see the pious Gerry Burns and Martin McGuinness
    listening avidly to Bishop Cathal Daly as he calls for an end to the
    senseless violence and then holier than thou receiving communion.....
    
    and then next day....
    
    condoning the cowardly blowing of the brains out of some recruiting 
    sargeant in Wembley (leaving behind a wife and 2 small kids)
    
    What hypocrits...........
    
    
    Se�n
    
    
     
    
755.8I wouldn't know the man from Adam(s) ...HILL16::BURNSBeer,NOT just for Breakfast anymoreFri May 18 1990 11:5911
    
    
    	>> the pious Gerry Burns  ????
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	keVin
    
755.9Seems like a reasonable response..SIOG::TINNELLYEIS Dublin IrelandWed May 23 1990 07:5922
Hello folks,

In an interview in the Sunday Tribune Newspaper with Gerry Adams, the 
reporter asked him the following:

"Many people have commented about you taking the Eucharist and said that
there was a hypocrisy in you doing so given your support for violence"

reply

"First of all my taking the Eucharist or not taking the Eucharist is 
nobody else's business. I contemplated not going to communion because of 
the possibility that it would cause a public controversy but then I
felt that I should not be dictated to on what is essentially a private 
matter by the opinions of others.
I wanted to offer up my communion for the repose of the soul of someone
I admired. It was as simple as that.
I do my best in my lights and I do not make my religious practices a matter
of public policy. I greatly resent the judgemental nature of some  of the
comments that heve been made about this".

REGARDS peter.
755.10USWAV1::CHAPLAINThu May 24 1990 10:4112
    re .6 (Dave K)
    
     Aside from 1. A firecracker, esp. one that burns but does not explode.
             or 2. A brief sometimes witty literary effort.  
    
    
                           What's a SQUIB?
    
                                 :-)
    
    Frank
    
755.11Holy MisnomersIVXXXX::LONERGANWed May 30 1990 07:5612
    
    Re .7 & .8
    
    Mea culpa........
    
    Must have that sainted fellow from Clare on the brain...
    
    Now whats his name .....St James Gate or something like that!!
    
    Anyway you know who I meant.
    
    Se�n