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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

753.0. "Seeking Translation for Sean Michael" by GRANPA::TTAYLOR (I do not want what I haven't got) Fri May 04 1990 16:38

    I'd like to know what the name Sean Michael means in Gaelic, please!
    
    Can anyone give me a translation?
    
    Thanks!  Tammi (usually READ ONLY)
    
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753.1A fada makes all the differenceMACNAS::KELLYMike Kelly 822-6244Mon May 07 1990 07:2716
    
    Sean Michael	=	Old Michael
    
    Sean Miche�l	=	Old Michael
    
         Miche�l	=           Michael
    
    
    Now if it was..
    
    Se�n Michael	=	John Michael
    
    Sean is pronounced as "shan" and Se�n as "shawn".
    
    
    Mike.
753.2MACNAS::MHUGHESWed May 30 1990 07:0212
    Leaprechauns will assist further
    
    I'll presume that since the Michael was spelt in english then your
    Sean was the "Shawn" pronunciation.  Sean is already a gaelic word
    as pointed out correctly in .1
    
    The gaelic for Michael is Miche�l (note the ' over the a)
    It is pronounced Meehaul.  Is is a slightly less gutteral pronunciation
    of Mr. Gorbachev's first name.
    
    Snake was called after the archangel.
    
753.3Sean Patrick??KAOM25::RUSHTONUnscathed by inspired lunacyWed May 30 1990 14:2912
Would you entertain another request for the gaelic spelling and
pronunciation of my son's names?

Good!  My son has threatened me with the removal of certain parts
of my anatomy which are quite private unless I can produce the correct
gaelic spelling and pronunciation of his name - Sean Patrick. 

His case was made when he said, "Why give me a name that you can't spell
or pronounce correctly?".  Good point, so could you provide me with
the aforementioned and allow me to keep my proverbials intact?!

Pat (who's voice is about to go up in pitch by a few octaves)
753.4HILL16::BURNSBeer,NOT just for Breakfast anymoreWed May 30 1990 15:5912
    
    
    	HOW BOUT ...
    
    	SE�N P�DRAIG	(SHAWN PAW-RIG)
    
    	or
    
    	SHE�IN PH�DRAIG	
    
    
    
753.5From the frying pan into the fire??KAOM25::RUSHTONUnscathed by inspired lunacyThu May 31 1990 14:264
Great keVin!  But what if my son asks about the difference in spelling
of the two versions you gave me?  My manhood may still be at risk!

Pat
753.6Meallt�irMACNAS::KELLYMike Kelly 822-6244Tue Jun 05 1990 13:2041

re .1 and .2

Myself, snake, and the archangel all erred!

Corrected spelling  -->		M�che�l   
			         ^
(forgot the fada over the "i")

Now we have two Michaels who can't spell their own name!  
A response from the reptile is eagerly awaited.


re .5

Se�n P�draig 		--->	John Patrick

Se�n Ph�draig 		--->    John (of) Patrick 
				
				i.e. Patricks John...comes from rural
				tradition where a person can be identified
				through a relations name (e.g. father).
				Initial consonant (P) changes to Ph.


Muintir She�in Ph�draig --->    Relations (of) John (of) Patrick.
				
				Consonant changes in both names and
				additional "i" in Se�n.
				All to do with genitive relationships.


I would imagine "Se�n P�draig" adequately reflects the translation
of the young mans name.

Disclaimer.........I could be wrong of course...I was in .1!

Mike.


753.7Waht does it *mean*, though?GRANPA::TTAYLORI do not want what I haven't gotTue Jun 05 1990 15:518
    Thanks everyone.  But what I *really* want to know, is what do these
    names (Sean & Michael) *mean* in Gaelic?
    
    (Example, my name, Tammi, is a derivative of Tamara, "the palm tree",
    in Hebrew) - except it doesn't fit for me!  I'm not tall and slender,
    I'm short and curvy -- more like a shrub than a tree!
    
    Thanks!   Tammi
753.8Aaaahhh, that feels better...KAOM25::RUSHTONUnscathed by inspired lunacyTue Jun 05 1990 19:1210
Mike,

	My son and I thank you very much, but especially I because I can
now retain whatever vestiges that I have left of my manhood!

Pat




753.9"The palm tree" are innocent...... :-)RTOEU::RDELANEYAdam 'ad 'em.......Thu Jun 07 1990 10:056
>    (Example, my name, Tammi, is a derivative of Tamara, "the palm tree",
 
    And there I was thinking "Tamara" was the day after today or two
    days after yesterday. Ah well live and learn............
    
    	- Robin.........   
753.10MAMTS2::TTAYLORI do not want what I haven't gotThu Jun 07 1990 17:266
    HEE HEE!
    
    Ok, help me , you guys!  What does Sean mean at least?  It's one of my
    favorite names!
    
    Tammi (who's still cracking up)
753.11???KAOM25::RUSHTONUnscathed by inspired lunacyFri Jun 08 1990 11:356
<<What does Sean mean at least?  

I never know what he means, everytime I go to talk to him he says,
"Dad!  Go to your room!".

P�draig (father of Se�n P�draig)
753.12USEM::MCQUEENEYConduct unbecomingFri Jun 08 1990 14:106
    re: .10
    
    Sean = John
    
    McQ
    
753.13Just the facts, Ma'am (hope I got the facts right!)AIAG::GAVINFri Jun 08 1990 16:0611
Tammi,

enough nonsense from these lunatics, I will try my best to answer your
question. Fear not, I'm sure that Sean Michael's name suits him:

	Sean is Irish for John which is Hebrew for "God's gift"
	Michael is Hebrew for "Who is like God" which is both a statement
		and a question.

Michael Kevin Joseph Gavin, the brother of Sean Joseph MacDara, and son
of John Joseph William!