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752.1 | Guesstimate... | USEM::MCQUEENEY | Texas bound! | Thu May 03 1990 12:46 | 13 |
| I only remember the first verse from (dim) memory...
I wish I was in Carrickfergus,
only for nights in Ballygrand.
I would swim over the deepest ocean
only for nights in Ballygrand.
I'll do some diggin' in the McQueeney library to see if I can
find the lyrics. Will post as soon as I find 'em.
McQ
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752.2 | part two | FORTY2::DONOVAN | | Thu May 03 1990 13:58 | 22 |
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Hello Gerry, here are some of the rest of the words, from my
unreliable memory. There are many recorded versions, the one that
sticks in my is the one by Luke Kelly.
John
But the sea is wide, and I can't swim over
And neither have I the wings to fly
I wish I had me a handsome boatman
To ferry me over, my love and I.
Now in Kilkenny it is recorded
On marble stone there as black as ink
With gold and silver <de dum de dum de dum>
But I'll say no more now till I get a drink
For I'm drunk today, and I'm seldom sober
A handsome rover from town to town
Oh but I'm sick now, my days are numbered
Come all you young men and lay me down
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752.3 | More fuel for the fire .... | HILL16::BURNS | A fool and his money are some Party | Thu May 03 1990 14:34 | 17 |
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} With gold and silver <de dum de dum de dum> <I would support her>
} But I'll say no more now till I get a drink
<sing>
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752.4 | Great song, Baez sings it well | RUTILE::AUNGIER | Ren� Aungier, Site Telecoms Manager, DTN 885-6901, @FYO | Fri May 04 1990 05:00 | 5 |
| It is a sad song but I like it. A guy in work has the tape of Joan
Baez and when I heard the song I almost went crazy, she sings it
very well, we played it about 30 times.
Ren�
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752.5 | And when you put them all together they spell I R E L A N D | HILL16::BURNS | A fool and his money are some Party | Fri May 04 1990 08:39 | 42 |
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I wish I was in Carrickfergus,
only for nights in Ballygrand.
I would swim over the deepest ocean
THE DEEPEST OCEAN, FOR MY LOVE TO FIND.
But the sea is wide, and I can't swim over
And neither have I the wings to fly
I wish I had me a handsome boatman
To ferry me over, my love and I.
MY CHILDHOOD DAYS BRING BACK SAD REFLECTIONS
OF HAPPY TIMES I SPENT SO LONG AGO
MY BOYHOOD FRIENDS AND MY OWN REFLECTIONS
HAVE ALL PASSED ON NOW LIKE THE MELTING SNOW
BUT I'LL SPEND MY DAYS IN ENDLESS ROAMING
SOFT IS THE GRASS, MY BED IF FREE
AH, TO BE BACK NOW IN CARRICKFERGUS
ON THAT LONG ROAD DOWN TO THE SEA
Now in Kilkenny it is recorded
On marble stone there, as black as ink
With gold and silver , I WOULD SUPPORT HER
But I'll SING no more now till I get a drink
For I'm drunk today, and I'm seldom sober
A handsome rover from town to town
Oh but I'm sick now, my days are numbered
Come all you young men and lay me down
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752.6 | merci | ULYSSE::COADY | | Fri May 04 1990 09:06 | 14 |
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Ok, thanks Kev/Bob, looks like I owe a few pints in the Boston area in
June.
John - I'll catch you in REO on my next trip.
Anyone any idea on the story behind it - I was told that it was a guy
from Northern Ireland ( Norn Iron ), who went to Scotland as a Potato
picker and never returned. In this song (poem) he was thinking about
his life and love back home in Carrickfergus.
Sounds possible - anyone any other idea ?
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752.7 | | PENUTS::KSULLIVAN | | Fri May 04 1990 10:35 | 5 |
| His name wouldn't happen to have been Burns, would it, whose decendants
went on to work for the S.P.S. (Scottish Postal Services). By all
accounts, his grief expressed in the poem was only the tip of the
iceberg.
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752.8 | Scottish/New Hampshire connection | ULYSSE::COADY | | Fri May 04 1990 10:46 | 13 |
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No, I dinna kin that Rabbie Burns and the said Burns from 'Live free
or die' state are connected.
But then if one saw Kev in a kilt, maybe there is a connection.
I know they are both poets, and indeed legends in this life :+).
Maybe John Donovan would know if 'Rabbie Burns' had Irish ancestors ?
GC
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752.9 | exit | ULYSSE::COADY | | Fri May 04 1990 10:57 | 15 |
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re .4
Rene,
Has Joan Baez officially recorded it and if so what tape is it on ?.
If its not an official recording, any idea on how a copy could reach
Valbonne - maybe a rare bottle of beverage in France like
a six pack of rare 1990 Guinness ?
GC
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752.10 | He's not a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad guy | HILL16::BURNS | A fool and his money are some Party | Fri May 04 1990 11:14 | 11 |
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Leave "Cuz'n Rabbie" out of this !!!! :-)
Clan Burns
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752.11 | | FORTY2::DONOVAN | | Fri May 04 1990 12:48 | 19 |
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Re .6: That's a common theme; as recently as the late 1940s people
were brought over from Antrim as cheap seasonal labour to work picking
potatoes in South West Scotland. Since the second world war, the
decline in the need for farm workers has seen a lot of the poorer
people from rural N.I. move across the water to Scotland; In my own
family most of those still in Ireland are over sixty, with the
others all moved away to Glasgow or Coatbridge; a lot of it has to
do with having big families on limited land I suppose.
On that particular song, he must have been pretty unimaginative if he
couldn't scrounge the fare from Stranraer to Larne ! Great song
though; the air to which it is sung is a beautiful tune.
As for Rabbie, well let's just say that Scotland's greatest poet is
Ewan McColl, no contest ! Burns is one of those names like MacNeill
or Gallagher that's common to both countries.
John
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752.12 | Ewan Who ?? :-) | HILL16::BURNS | A fool and his money are some Party | Fri May 04 1990 14:23 | 8 |
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I always thought Scotland's greatest poet was Billy Connolly !! :-)
keVin Byrnes
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752.13 | Is there three o's in noo??? | PENUTS::KSULLIVAN | | Fri May 04 1990 14:34 | 5 |
| Hey keVin, I hope you're not going to take a remark like that lying
down. Where's your pride? Clans have gone to war for less. Outrageous!!!!
Burns....common, out wi yer sword laddie and have at him, a duel to the
death....it's the way these things are done.....din ye noo?
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752.14 | As I recall... | TRIBES::CREAN | Niepriklauskoma Lietuva! | Mon May 07 1990 04:44 | 6 |
| More info on Carrickfergus.
The song is made up of English-language verses embedded in a much
longer poem in Irish called "A bh� bean-uasail" ("There is a Lady")
by the Cavan poet Cathal Bu� Mac Giolla Gunna (c 1750).
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752.15 | I will tape it for u and send it | RUTILE::AUNGIER | Ren� Aungier, Site Telecoms Manager, DTN 885-6901, @FYO | Thu May 10 1990 04:31 | 9 |
| < Note 752.9 by ULYSSE::COADY >
-< exit >-
I will find out what the name of her latest album is and normally
I buy all of Joan Baez's stuff. She officially recorded it.
I will tape it from the CD and send it to you soon.
Ren�
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752.16 | | COOKIE::WITHERS | Slipping into madness is good for the sake of comparison | Mon May 21 1990 18:52 | 2 |
| Its on Joan Baez' _Speaking_of_Dreams_ and also the Chieftans album with Van
Morrison.
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752.17 | leaves on the track | CHEST::DUGGAN | Do what ! | Fri Jun 29 1990 13:29 | 2 |
| There's another version by Bryan Ferry (from the album "the bride
stripped bare" ?). Sounds good too.
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