Title: | Celt Notefile |
Moderator: | TALLIS::DARCY |
Created: | Wed Feb 19 1986 |
Last Modified: | Tue Jun 03 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1632 |
Total number of notes: | 20523 |
I wrote a note some years ago, or at least it seems like years ago about the past, the 50's and 60's. Well the other day I was trying to decide where I will go on holidays. I have 15 days left which I have to take before the end of May. The Irish Tourist Board are showing advertisements on French television here and it started me thinking about Ireland and especially Dublin, where I grew up. Also my parents sent me a St Patrick's days card and my father said "remember the good old days you spent in Dublin". I would like to tell you about the seventies and what happened to me and around me during that decade. The seventies were the years I was in secondary school, O'Connels Schools. It must have been 69 when I went to secondary school, I have forgotten exactly what year. I remember my first day in secondary school, anybody out there that went to O'Connells will no doubt remember the HUTS in the middle of the school, and the handball allies down the end. I believe I went into 1B, in those days, the class went from A to G, A was generally the class where all subjects were taught through Irish and also it had another distinction, they were supposedly the brainier and so on down to G, so you can imagine, based on this system, the people in the G class might as well not have been in school, this is not a serious comment I am making. We had a a number of teachers in secondary school, I remember some of their names. I was back in Ireland last year and I brought my children along to the school for a visit and some of the same old teachers were there, some seemed not to have changed in all those years. The was Ben Finnucan (Commerce), Larry Logan (French), Sean Conlon (??), Josh (Maths + English), Larry Logan (Geography) and the other teachers names escape my mind for the moment. They were all a great bunch of teachers with the exception of Josh, a real out and out murderer. I remember one day in class he slapped 3 boys and 2 of them fainted and the other almost from the force of the slaps, they had to be brought out into the yard and helped to walk around while someone else went to the lab to get smelling salts. This teacher used to run something the equivalent of a government which was elected every month by the class, I was president twice. It was in reality, more like a dictatorship. You had to appoint a minister of justice, his job was to stand up the top of the class when Josh was out and if anybody made noise he wrote their names down. The unfortunates whose names were down were slapped, you became very unpopular quickly. If the minister of justice had no names down he got slapped, so there was always at least one or two names. It was not all bad, there was Larry Logan who would start whistling when somebody said "LE FEMME", and start making shapes to indicate that it was feminine so that the student would correct himself and say "LA FEMME". He was also the one that tried to introduce rugby into the school. I played a few times and gave up. I played on the school Gaelic team, some of the lads of my year went on to play for the Dublin minors and seniors, guys like John Thompson. Dublin was a great place then. O'Connells was close enough to the city centre that sometimes we would walk down Summerhill to the Ambassador cinema. Finlaters was on the corner of Cathal Brugha street and O'Connell's street, it is gone a long time now. They were once the bottlers of XXX Guiness in Dublin. The old Carlton cinema was nothing like it is today. Further down O'Connell Street and a place I loved was the Capital cinema along side the Irish Press. Close beside that was the Metropole, this was a great Dublin spot, there was a cinema, dance hall and restaurant, it was a great shame that they got rid of these 2 cinemas and replaced them with a ugly looking shop. On Saturdays I used to go to the Metropole and anybody out there that knew it will remember that the entry was a massive size as there was the entry to the cinema, restaurant and dance hall all together. I used to buy a ice cream at the entry and then walk into the cinema without paying as if I had just come out for an ice cream, it makes me laugh, the only problem was that they only changed the film every 2 or 3 weeks but sometimes I would go the following Saturday and watch the same film. They had some quantness that the cinemas of today do not have. Nelson's Pillar was still there as far as I can remember. It was a meeting point, everybody met at Nelsons Pillar in those days. I cannot remember going up there. Now a days it is Cleary's clock that is the meeting point, sometimes the GPO. In Henry Street the was just Roches Stores at the time, it was one of the first shops in Dublin to install an elevator, I used to just go in there to go up and down the elevator. The dealers in Moore Street were there at the time but it has changed a lot over the years, Queeny is dead, there were a few famous characters along Moore Street. People like my grandmother went there once a week to buy their fruit and vegetables and of course an old chat, my grandmother knew all the dealers and they knew her. Hanlon's in Moore Street was the place for fish, it is still there. Less people now go to Moore Street to buy their vegetables. In those days supermarkets were not too widespread and so the pilgrimage to Moore Street was a weekly one. In Raheny where I lived there was only 2 shops where you could buy food, Walsh's and Cronins. Cronins is gone but Walsh's is still there plus a few dozen supermarkets with a 2 mile radius. I have to go home now but if anybody has any old memories of Dublin and what they remember of it in the 70's, please do not hesitate to add it. I always play the song "Dublin in the rare old times" by the Dublin City Ramblers and it is true, Dublin has changed for the worst in my opinion. Mc Donalds, PizzaHut etc have taken away the really pretty old fronts that O'Connell Street had back then. Sometimes old is beautiful. I am not one that would like to halt progress as long as progress does not destroy the beauty of the city. Rene
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725.1 | Ramblings of a madman | RUTILE::AUNGIER | Ren� Aungier, Site Telecoms Manager, DTN 885-6901, @FYO | Wed Mar 14 1990 17:55 | 91 |
The other day I was driving through Geneva and came across a scene which reminded me of O'Connell Street back in the early 70's. The motor show is on in Geneva and the army are directing traffic. There was an army man in a box marked red and white and it reminded me of the pointsmen (thats what we called them in Dublin) on the bridge directing traffic before they put up traffic lights in O'Connell Street. There was also the Tara Street swimming baths, long since gone. This is where I learned to swim. Way back then there was not very many swimming pools in the city and hardly any outside the city centre. I used to walk by them and it would bring back the noise of all use kids shouting and screaming as we learned to swim. The person that taught me to swim was Paddy Phips and Nick Corish, they are both well known for their involvement in swimming. I believe one of them is dead now, God rest his soul. We occassionally swan in the Clontarf baths, these were open air and sea water, you would probably not call them swimming baths now a days but then they were magic. There was a famous jewelery shop on the corner of O'Connel Street and Burgh Quay, I cannot remember the name now, it is now a building society. There is the cinema just beside it, its name escapes me now. Along Summerhill at the time there were tenements, I remember these well, as you walked by the stench of urine and other smells made you sick, people lived in them, they dated back to the 1800's. The living conditions were appalling, you could see the kids in the rooms from the street and with as many as ten to a room, it was definetly not the best of hygenic conditions. They have since been pulled down and nice new town houses built. They look a lot better and from what I hear, people are glad to stay in the city. The tenants seem to have more respect for them that they seemingly did for the tenements. The Savoy cinema was there way back, I had only been to it once or twice. I really cannot recall much of it front. Towards the end of 69 or 70 I went to the Gaelteacht in Connemara, a place called Kill Kieran, a beautiful place, I can still see it as I type. I have alredy spoken about this place in the previous note so I will not add any more. There was a great bunch of lads and we had a great time. If there is by any chance any old classmates, fellow travellers or so like drop us an old line. I have met one or two already through notes but I am sure there are some more out there. Unemployment, crime, violence were not spoken abot much in those years. Life seemed to be unspoiled. I makes me a bit sad to think that things change so quickly and that violence, crime and unemployment have become so common that they are accepted as normal. Everyday my brother and I would take the train from Raheny to Connelly Station and walk up Buckingham Street to O'Connells, there was no DART trains at the time, in fact ther were not many people who travelled on the train. There was only 2 stations after Raheny, Harmonstown and Killester or the other way round, now there seems to be at least 2 more. I remember we used to go sometimes to the swimming pool at Guinesses brewery, we would pretend our father worked there. It was the only olympic size swimming pool in Ireland, not that my swimming was up to olympic standard. There were ships all the way up the Liffey, now a days there are few. We used to see the kids from the city centre swimming in it near Butt Bridge and off the Customs House. I worked on Saturdays in a Motor Factors, a shop that sold car parts and I used to make about 2 pound for the half day. The Motor Factors is now gone, it was in Blessington Street, Bramac it was called. I would walk down Frederick Street, the Garden of Rememberance, the Ambassador cinema, Parnell's monument, Nelson's Pillar, Clearys onto Abbey street where I would catch the bus. Irish Life was not there at the time, Brooks Thomas had a place there under the railway bridge and strecting up part of Abbey Street. On arriving in Raheny I used to buy a bottle of Cidona and a few packets of crisps and home to watch the television. The village of Raheny has not changed a lot in the years, there is still the graveyard, the old church, the Manhattan pub, the Raheny Inn, Cahill's garage, Reynolds shop, the credit union. I t is a lot more built up just outside the village. I must catch a few winks now. Rene |