Conference tallis::celt

Gee George, with the amount of activity here currently, you could
probably have closed the conference down for the week, and no-one
would have been any wiser.  8-)

Guess everyone's gone into hibernation.  First one up in the Spring,
please turn on the lights.

    
    
    	George's REAL problem is trying to locate a "Good Corkonian" :-)

                                                                       
               
        Does such a thing exists ????
    
    
    
    	keVin
    
    

    The real problem would be finding a Corkonian (and they are all good)
    with enough spare time from our efforts at saving the world to do the
    job.
    
    I get sent a copy of the Cork Evening Echo each week and what with all
    the turmoil and news from Eastern Europe these days the reporters are
    finding it busy as the search all over the world for the Corkman behind
    the story.
    
    Read it and weep
    
    A Paddy in South Queensferry
    

	Not a Corkman by birth but by ancestry, I'm interested in newspapers
	published in Cork City.  What are they and do they come up (or down)
	to the level of the Irish Times?

	Is there a regional paper (or better yet a local one) covering
	Skibbereen?

	G'day,

	Pat

    
    Yes thats one of the better places to put the Corkie rags!
    
    Anyway , there are two "National" papers published in Cork
    that I know of...The Cork Examiner and its sister evening
    paper...The Evening Echo.... I dont think they try to attract
    your typical Times reader but they are nevertheless very good,
    particularly for southern region issues and sport. Id be very
    surprised if there werent some more local papers as well, as
    they proliferate elsewhere around the country. Robbie Delaney, 
    a frequent inputter to this notesfile hails from Cork and would 
    probably have a fairly good idea. Right back to the Nationalist
    and UP TIPP!
    
    Se�n

<<Right back to the Nationalist and UP TIPP!

Funny you should say that, Se�n.  I was just listening to a song called
"The Boys from Fairhill", something about a 'war', or hurling match
with Tipperary.  
    
I believe I shall have to wait for Robin to return from Scotland
before I can query him further (he's also provided me with the lyrics
of another Cork song).

Thanks for the response, and now I can tell my son (Se�n Patrick) that
his name is rare only in Canada.

Pat

    Sean (and I don't know how to mark the a) Patrick is a fantastic name.
    
    It doesn't matter where you are.
    
    I came across a Sean Jameson at work the other day - don't know his
    middle name - but we almost simultaneously said to each other - 'what
    as great name'.  Instant respect, ya know?
    
    I guess we don't have to hide our stripes now that the Scotties have
    their own conference!
    
    
    
    JO'R (John Joseph Patrick O'Reilly)
    

    For news of the Skibbereen area and all of the free state of West Cork
    the paper to read is the Southern Star. This is a weekly journal which
    gives all the County news.
    Its their 100th birthday this year.
    
    kieran
    A Paddy in South Queensferry

    Jasus...ye beat Kerry in a few Munster Finals and it's all hunky-dory
    
    but wait 'til this year...
    
    - Dave K.

< Note 706.8 by KURMA::KCASEY >
-< The Southern Star >-

	Would you have an address, Kieran?  So that I might write to
	the subscription desk.

	As what follows still comes under the title of this note, i.e.
	Cork and Corkies, maybe you might indulge me while I relate
	this story:

	On Saturday (25 January), I went to my club's twice-monthly
	meeting where there was a guest from Toronto.  After taking
	the opportunity to speak to her (she had a nice turn of leg),
	I discovered she was from Balleydehob, Co. Cork - only 10
	miles from my ancestral home of Skibbereen! But don't start
	yawning just yet.  She also has relations (careful now) in
	Salthill.  As a matter of fact, her aunt and uncle are the
	proprietors of 'The Ballinasloe' pub in Salthill, also known
	as 'The Ball' by locals (can ya back me up on this).

	What a windfall!  She gave me the names of her relatives (O'Sullivan)
	to contact in Balleydehob to see if there is a connection to
	my relatives (O'Brien and Walsh) in and around Skibbereen.  Finally,
	she left me with an expression that her Bank of Ireland friends
	in Dublin gave her - it exemplifies the remoteness of south-west
	Cork and probably the smugness of Dubliners; apparently, if you
	screw-up in your job with the Bank of Ireland, they send you to
	their branch in Balleydehob.  A bit like being sent to the Bank of
	Montreal branch in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan.

	OK, you can delete this now.

	Pat

    It's called the 'Bal'...and I will be having a couple of pints there
    myself anocht.
    
    - Dave K.

    I will look up the address tonight and let you know. As for being
    posted to Ballydehob being an insult from the point of view of the Dubs
    - this is cause we don't want them to find what we have growing down
    there-- acres and acres of the stuff. All owned by Dutch and Germans
    and English people.
    Nice part of the world. Wouldn't mind being there now but working for
    the Bank would be worse than ..............
    
    
    kieran
    A Paddy in South Queensferry
    

< Note 706.7 by AUSTIN::OREILLY "Eire in '90 or '91" >
-< Good job naming your son! >-


	A quick look at my birth certificate reveals some Irish continuity
in the family - Patrick Cornelius.  I believe the Cornelius is from my
grandfather, John Cornelius O'Brien.  Can't figure where the Patrick comes
from, though.

	JO'R, do you know any O'Brien's in Fort Worth?  A grand-uncle of mine
left for there in the 1880's (Jerry O'Brien). 

	So, you intend on returning to Ireland this year or next, eh?  I have
fairly definite plans to return in the spring of 1991.  But I'll probably
base myself in south-west Cork and rummage through parish records, searching
for the proverbial skeleton in the closet.  Maybe we'll meet for a pint or two
if our paths cross.

Pat    

    Pat,
    
    There is a Maurice O'Brien working here in Kanata (KDC) who reckons he
    hails from Tipperary (no fault of his :-) ). You can reach him at
    KDCFS1.
    
    Gerry.

Thanks for the Tipp, Gerry.  Do you have any Maur?

Pat

    Put a Cork in it , Pat.
    
    Gerry

    The last two notes are not very Clare...they must be DUB'ed !!!

    
    I think the last three can  Gall-away anytime now.
    
    paddy 

    They May-o they may

    Thats the very Laois-ed they can do.

    
    
    
    	Up Down
    
    
    
    keVin
    

    Don't mind that Pat fellow. He's just a Louth-mouth.
    
    KeVin, was it a Long ford that you went to Boston in.
                    ---------
    
    Gerry
    

     If you're all DONE GALling the rest of us you can end this little
     charade.
    
    

    	This whole discussion is making MEATHick.
    

    re .24
    
       The noters in here probably got nothin' better to do.
    
       They're probably DINKS.  You know...
    
       DUBLINcome, no kids.
    

    re .22
    
    	Gerr: We could not find a place to park the LONG FORD so we
              decided to take the TRALEE instead. You can LARNE a
              lot of things traveling that way. YOUGHAL might want
              to join us next time, but it is OFFALY far from here to
              Toronto. We had a few pints ENNIS they last time we met !!   
    	    
    
    
    
    	keVin
    
                                                                      
    

I don't KERRY much for this note anymore, it SCARIFF me off.

And who's that lad who's LARKIN about then, mind?    
                                                                      
Now go take a LEAP.

Pat    

    re.27
    This is getting personal now! That makes my blood BOYLE. I might have
    to deCLARE war in a RUSH TONight. 
    
    re .26 
    KeVin: Did ye go to the CASTLE BAR for a few pints, or were ye just
    drinking NEW PORT.
    
    Gerry

    	I give up.  This is TUAMuch for me.
    

This idle BANTRYing is splitting my SCHULL.  I'll just take my HORSE AND
JOCKEY so that I KINSALE outa here!

This note would be enough to KILMICHAEL Hughes, so I'll aBANDON it
to MACROOM for someone else.

ARDPATRICK

    Personally I'm LUCAN for a way out of this note. I could KILL RUSHton
    for starting this. 
    
    TARA for now
    
    Gerry

Aw, wot 'er ya MOONEing about, Gerry?  That wasn't a NAAS thing to say.

Most of us are only doing this on ADARE.  ARAN finally done, now.  Give
me a DINGLE sometime.

PATRICKSWELL and fine for now.

    
    
    MAYO god help us all ...................... :-)
    
    
    	Yesterday it snowed here in New Hampshire, but it has since changed
        over to just a COLERAINE .
    
                       
      
    	keVin
    

    re .34
    
      Well, good morning, CAVAN.  It might have snowed yesterday but it's
    becoMON A GHANdsome day today, though I CONNAUGHT vouch for tomorrow.
    I LONG FOR De days of summer and TULLAMORE sunny and CLARE Sunday 
    afternoons and playing BALL IN A SLOE-pitch game DOWN at the park.  
    We're OFFALY bad.  Are erROS COMMON?  Dern tootin'.  OMAGH God, we're
    so bad we can't TYRONE shoe-laces!  ARMAGH real lousy player too.
    ENNI SKILL ENvolved?  Nope.  We play only to keep our bodies 
    FERM, AN AGHll our efforts keep us fit ANTRIM.
    
                              *grooooaan*
    
    I'm going away now before somebody kicks my DERRYerre.
         
     

    Pat, KNOCK it off!!
    
    Gerry

    re.10
    
    At long last I return to give the Southern Star address. It is as
    follows;
    
    		The Southern Star,
    		Ilen St.,
    		Skibereen,
    		Co. Cork
    		Ireland.
    
    Get them to send you a copy of their centenerary edition. There is some
    fantastic reading about things during the famine etc specific to West 
    Cork.
    
    
    rgds
    Kieran
    A Paddy in South Queensferry

    <<fantastic reading about things during the famine etc specific to West 
    <<Cork.
    
Terrific stuff, Kieran!  I'm on it already.  Although I still have about
15 months before I go to Skibbereen, time seems to drag on when one requests
information from 'far away' via post.  It's a good thing we have NOTES and
MAIL!

G'day,

Pat (scraping the frost off of my terminal, in Kanata)

    To order the centennial edition of the paper, how much would it cost,
    how many U.S. dollars should I send to cover purchase and mailing.
    
    Thanks for your help.
    Pat
    
    

    <<To order the centennial edition of the paper, how much would it cost,
    <<how many U.S. dollars should I send to cover purchase and mailing.

Pat,  I received the issue back in April and it was well worth the wait and
cost.  I'll get to info tonight when I get home and post the info here.

If you just wish to browse through it, I could loan it to you.

Pat    
    

re: .39

I found the information you requested, and there are a number of ways
by which you can acquire your own copy.

The centennial supplement is in a bound paperback format measuring 12 inches
by 24 inches and contains 128 pages of newspaper reprints.  It covers local
politics, the Famine, scandals, sports, the War of Independance, the Civil War,
etc.  Great reading.

I wrote directly to the Southern Star office in Skibbereen to order the edition
and for the cost of sending it via airmail.  The price of the publication is
IR�3.00 and the airmail postage is IR�5.00, for a total of IR�8.00.  You can  
send your request directly to the Southern Star along with a postal money order
in Irish punts (you can't send the money order directly, it must go to Dublin
first which will make things very confusing) or you can send me the equivalent
in American dollars ($15) and I can write a cheque in Irish punts on my
Bank of Ireland account.  The forwarding address would be yours.  This method
is probably the quickest as I sent my cheque on 2 March and received my copy
of the supplement one month later.

If you choose to order it yourself, it must be pre-paid.  Here is the address:

		Southern Star
		Ilen Street
		SKIBBEREEN, Co. Cork
		IRELAND

Let me know your preference.

Pat