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    Nope, you have got it wrong. Dave is like a sponge. He can only
    consume a certain large amount of alcohol. At the end of this he
    needs to be squeezed dry. 
    
    In order to keep going over the Xmas he  reduces his intake at present.
    
    Sorry Dave couldnt resist.
    
    			MBr

    
    
    
    	MBr: Maybe someone should tell Dave about the new beer from
             Budweisser ...... "Mick Dry"    :-)
    
    	     Then he won't have to be "Squeezed dried" so often .....

                                                     
    
    keVin

    
    
    	where IS dave?????

    
    
    Ya   where is that Dave fella!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
          He is most likely out buying my christmas gift.  A bit of
    the nectar of the gods will do fine.  Thank You....
    
    paddy

    Denise,
    
    You've really *DONIT* this time. Wait 'til I get you in REPARTEE
    
    You are lucky I'm in a good-mood today....WHY?...
    
    
    
    Well it's  "Dec.1st"  and the healing has begun!!!
    
    - Dave K.

    
    		as me saintly mother would say 2 me....
    
    		the irish never ail they *heel* all over!
    
    		M in a good mood myself, dave....just 20 more days

    
    	Denise,
    
    	Duckeating wants to know ....
    
    	"20 more days to go"     FOR WHAT ? ? ?
    
    	Erik the Viking, or Christmas pud or what ???????
    
    	

Could one of the moderators please delete this topic - it seems to have 
nothing at all to do with the purpose of this conference and is, IMHO,
a load of childish drivel.

thanks
	Craig.

    
    		i object!!!!! on the grounds that it serves 2
    		purposes....its in honour of a *true* celt,
    		& & & ....
    
    		cuz it lightens up this here conference!

    Re: .8
    
    Go back to EF_89 !! ;-)
    
    Gerry

    Perhaps Mr McCrohan and Mr Cockburn should should open a "serious 
    folks" (sp. ???), note. The rest of us would promise never to reply,
    leaving them in peace to discuss such topics as the idiots in the rest
    of the file, the dismaying misuse of the file space, the obvious need
    for serious and concerned debate on all subjects from the man who
    murders fourteen women because women ruined his life to the philosophy
    of the lunatic Dreyfuss. 
    I for one would love to see some enlightened writing on any subject from 
    either of these two, dare I suggest intellectuals, other than their one 
    liners on how they dislike their time being wasted by the low standard 
    of drivel found in this file.    
    Gentlemen, we wait with that exhilarating expectation only found in 
    children on the eve of Christmas as they await The Great One's arrival.
    Please show us Philistines the errors of our ways and the true potential
    of this file, that we are too blind to see. Help us.......and you will
    bathe in the rays of our gratitude for ever.
    
                                  M.  
    

>                    <<< Note 684.12 by PENUTS::KSULLIVAN >>>

>    for serious and concerned debate on all subjects from the man who
>    murders fourteen women because women ruined his life to the philosophy
>    of the lunatic Dreyfuss. 

The murdering of 14 innocent women in the prime of life is NOT the sort
of topic I expect to see dragged up as verbal ammunition in a vain attempt
to make a point.

I find the above particularly distasteful and offensive and I hope the
moderators of this notesfile take issue with the author of the above
(Kevin Sullivan @DAS) and remind him that the Celts are supposedly
one of the friendliest races you can find. Comments such as the above
do not only tarnish the image of this notesfile, but also of Digital
and Celts as a whole. I object strongly to such unnecessary remarks
made in reply to a constructive suggestion for improving this notesfile.

If I knew Mr Sullivans managers name I would forward his note to him/her
to pursue this matter further. Such behaviour in a notesfile which is
readable to ANYONE in Digital (and I know of VP's that follow notes)
is irresponsible and not representative of the values I have come to
respect as a Digital employee.

	Craig.

    re: .-1
    
    	I, too, have a problem with the reference to the heinous crime
    committed in Montreal yesterday.  I have absolutely no problem with
    "drivel", but innocuous and unnecessary references to mass murder
    are, IMHO, in very poor taste.
    
    	Perhaps the author would like to delete his note, or at least
    edit out that reference?  I feel that simply stating our objections
    should suffice, and a memo to his boss is unnecessary.  We are all
    reasonable people here (I, at the risk of sounding naive, assume).
    
    	McQ
    

Well Craig,

>> I find the above particularly distasteful and offensive and I hope the
>> moderators of this notesfile take issue with the author of the above
>> (Kevin Sullivan @DAS) and remind him that the Celts are supposedly
>> one of the friendliest races you can find. Comments such as the above
>> do not only tarnish the image of this notesfile, but also of Digital
>> and Celts as a whole. I object strongly to such unnecessary remarks
>> made in reply to a constructive suggestion for improving this notesfile.


It seems to me that Mr Sullivan was simply suggesting a range of topics
that you might find suitable for debate.  I don't believe that anyone
would find mentioning a topic such as this distasteful and offensive.  What
happened to free and open discussions ??  Are you saying we can't talk
about something because someone would be offended.

I believe you are implying the Mr Sullivan was trivialising the topic, I'm
obviously not speaking for him (he's well able to do that for himself), but
I read what was written several times, and the responses, and do not
think this was intent.

As for the responses.  Why only go as far as his manager.  If you like,
we could forward it direct to KO himself.  With the responses of course.
I've little doubt whose notes would be less highly regarded.

Maith a fear, M.

Shame on you Craig for making a Huge rathole out of a little digression.


>> If I knew Mr Sullivans managers name I would forward his note to him/her
>> to pursue this matter further.


What matter ?  Or maybe, whatsa matter Craig, can't take a joke ?

Bernard (flaming slightly)

    Mr. Cockburn,
    
    
        I know Mr. K. Sullivan and while not wanting to rise to his
    defense (he is well able to do that with no help from me) I do feel
    the need to come right out and say he holds no malice for anyone
    but he does have a unique style.
    
        I feel that some of us try to keep this file abit LIGHT and
    do so intentionally. There is enough sh*t stirring that goes on
    in other note files. Lets not let it happen here.... PLEASE
     
        I could be mistaken but it seems that you are not really taking
    his note as a whole but pulling out a piece that you choose to respond
    to.
    
        Too often we (noters) will pull out that piece and make it an
    issue. I never really thought that fair.  But then who said we play
    fair right?????
    
        I only reply now to try and prevent any slagging match and give
    us all a chance to try and remain objective and not make this personal.
    
       BTW I think a Scottish note file is a super idea and I am interested
    in what your culture is like and how it differs (if at all) with
    the Irish culture. (I promise not to be controversial ha-ha)
    
       So lets not let this get out of hand and maybe, just maybe your
    personal name will really apply. 
                                                      
    
    paddy
                                    
    PS.
    
        Merry Christmas to all and a Happy New Year.  
    
    PSS. I'll bet Dave Keating started all this on purpose.....8*)
    
    

    You are all mad you know, quite mad.
    
    Jamie.

Ok, I understand that Mr Sullivan (don't we use first names in this conference?)
probably didn't intend his remark the way I interpreted it. However, notes
is a large community and we must be careful when making comments that they
do not offend people, especially on potentially sensitive topics.

Let us now lighten up a bit and progress back to topics without such morbid
overtones. Frivolity is all very well, but IMHO, it doesn't do much to promote
this conference when people come in here to ask specific questions and have
to NEXT UNSEEN over topics such as this, or extract just the useful directory
topics in order to get the answers they are after. The content of this 
notesfile is governed by the way it is moderated, and if the moderators are
happy with the way it is run then that is what the readers must put up with,
whatever their views.

If I cannot make a simple constructive suggestion without getting 'blasted'
then I'm not sure I want to continue following a conference where I cannot
make an innocent comment without risk of this happening again.
 
	Craig.

    Aha......so there is life out there afterall.
    
    Craig, in a few days when you reread your replies, aka "simple
    constructive suggestions", I think it may be you who might wish
    to delete. They are perfect examples of misinterpretation and 
    overreaction. 
    
    Though I give most of the "drivel" writers credit for being capable
    of understanding simple English, an explaination of this sentence
    accused of being in grevious bad taste seems necessary in this
    instance. Quite simply it refered to debate on a spectrum of subjects 
    "from the most serious (the murders) to the absurd (philosophy of the 
    lunatic Dreyfuss)".
    
    Being a believer in the feminist philosophy and though continually 
    impressed by the ability of a large percentage of the male population 
    to push the frontiers of selfrighteous pig ignorance to new limits, the
    Montreal incident frightens, the act itself, but also all that it implies.  
    
    I can't think of anything else that qualifies under "extreme seriousness"
    above this incident and its implications.....Can you?
    
                                  M.
                                                                   
    

    
    	JAMIE ANDERSON!!! as i live & breathe...U come here as well?
    	
    	this was my base note...i'll D-fend it.... it was written in
    	light.... 2 1 of my favourite celts...keating. its a dedication
    	of his finely tuned humour & wit.
    
    	so there... mr. cockburn...chill out, mellow down, put it in
    	neutral... Njoy life as its so short...
    
    

    Please note that I am not taking part in this conversation
    

    
    	i urge U 2 use caution on this 1 crean....as U note in 
    	
    	
    	
    	REPARTEE
    	
    	
    	wouldn't want word 2 get around, would U?

    Can I sleep in this here topic over Christmas?
    

    
    And ring in the New Decade?
    

    Fancy spelling my name without the Capitals!!!
    
    
    
    Happy Christmas and a Celtic New Year to All of Ye.
    
    
    - Dave Keating.
            

    
    		happy holidays 2 all