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| 674.1 | Breathnach? | GAO::JDOOLEY | The Man they couldn't Hang | Tue Nov 07 1989 04:51 | 6 |
| This is only an idea but a surname in the west tha sounds like it
is Breathnach ,pronounced "brannock",which is the Gaelic equivalent
of Welsh or Walsh.
Rgds.
John Dooley
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| 674.2 | Welsh? | HAND::CRAWFORD | Broken Knees | Tue Nov 07 1989 06:36 | 6 |
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Thanks, this does sound very similar, but why is there a Gaelic
derivation of Welsh? Were there Welsh immigrants to Ireland? Sorry,
to ask so many questions but I am extremely curious..
Carole-Ann
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| 674.3 | A little bit of History | DUB01::BRENNAN_M | Dulce et Decorum est | Tue Nov 07 1989 07:16 | 10 |
| Yes there were. They were called the Normans. They came from the
Welsh borders in the 12th Century A.D. There are many names in Ireland
which originated with this group. Among them are the Fitz*.
The name Walsh or Welsh is quite common in the South Kilkenny-Tipp-
Wexford area.
Regards
MBr
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| 674.4 | I am not an expert but........ | EGAV01::JDOOLEY | The Man they couldn't Hang | Tue Nov 07 1989 07:27 | 12 |
| The original name for what is now Great Britain was Praidain (sp?)
What is now Wales is now called Breathain Beag in Gaelic.
This means "Little Britain".
Hence an inhabitant is called Breathnach and as the previous noter
said they came in 1169 and afterwards during the Norman invasion
of Ireland.
Elsewhere in this conference find "A potted history of Ireland"
written by MHUGHES,aka The Snake,possibly the longest note in
VAXNOTES-land.
Hope this helps.
JOhn Dooley.
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| 674.5 | He does a "Fair Job" of reporting sports also ..;-) | TUNER::BURNS | Up the Banner | Tue Nov 07 1989 08:47 | 9 |
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Note 277.0 contains "The Snakes" masterpiece .... :-)
keVin
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| 674.6 | and up the Banner... | EGAV01::DKEATING | Irish Punts beat the Maltese Cross | Tue Nov 07 1989 12:30 | 7 |
| .5� -< He does a "Fair Job" of reporting sports also ..;-) >-
Mind you...only when Galway are winning! :-)
Up Mayo :-)
- Dave K.
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| 674.7 | Try Andy | EGAV01::FEENEY | Ga�llimh Ab� | Wed Nov 08 1989 07:09 | 6 |
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Andy Brunnock work's in the UK , I know he has connections in Tipperary
Maybe worth a mail
--John
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| 674.8 | The scales of justice were "Tipped" ... | STEREO::BURNS | Up the Banner | Wed Nov 08 1989 07:28 | 10 |
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re: .6 Dave: Maybe that explains why we heard so little
from him after August 6th ....
keVin
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| 674.9 | 'Tis the one and the same! | HAND::CRAWFORD | Broken Knees | Wed Nov 08 1989 08:25 | 16 |
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Thanks, for the advice but the person I'm getting married too
is Andy Brunnock!
It seems it's not that common a name...
Still, they'll be two of us in Digital soon!!
Rgds
Carole-Ann
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| 674.10 | P.S. | HAND::CRAWFORD | Broken Knees | Wed Nov 08 1989 08:36 | 10 |
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Just a post script to my previous comment - my better half
Andy Brunnock himself will be in Boston next week perhaps
some fellow Celts could look him up?
He flys out on Monday 20th November and is returning to
the UK on the 23rd any offers?
Carole-Ann
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| 674.11 | Welsh immigrants to Ireland. | MEO78B::YEMM | | Wed Nov 08 1989 18:31 | 15 |
| Ref Welsh immigrants to Ireland.
The Welsh connections with Ireland started long before the Norman
invasion - long before the Saxon invasion of Prydain in fact. Good
reading on this subject is a book written by Gwynfor Evans, the
Welsh nationalist M.P. called "The Land of my Fathers" in English,
which was translated by him from his own book called "Aros Mae"
in Welsh. It goes into considerable depth regarding the relationships
and trade across "The Celtic Sea", between Ireland, Wales, Scotland,
Brittany, et al. I suppose the ultimate Welsh immigrant to Ireland
would be St Patrick himself.
Hwyl Fawr,
Taff.
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| 674.12 | The Welsh in the South-East | KLO::JOYCE | | Fri Nov 10 1989 10:34 | 15 |
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The last note has stolen my lines, but what I was going to say
was there was a fairly close relationship between South-East
Ireland and Wales long before the Normans.... colonists went
in both directions at vairious times. For example, the name
of Cashel (just 10 miles from where I write in South Tipp)
from the Latin "Castellum" is reckoned to come from a
group of colonists from Britain who first fortified it.
So the name "Breathnach" need not necessarily have originated
with the Normans. However, they may have been foot-soldiers
from Wales who arrived with the Norman knights.
Toby
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| 674.13 | Try the Circle-K! | BIOMIC::LONERGAN | | Mon Nov 13 1989 11:54 | 11 |
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Carole-Ann,
Dont wait up too long but I"ll try to get some info for you..A good
friend of mine called Kevin Brunnick (theres always a few variations
in Irish names) is going to take over the Circle-K store on the A33
road out to Basingstoke sometime b4 Xmas so next time Im in touch I"ll
ask if he knows anything about the name...its fairly common around South
Tipp where we"re both from (Cahir to be exact)........
Se�n
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