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Is that into the Glass from the bottle....

or out of the bottle into the mouth ??   8-)


Bernard.

    that topic is discussed somewhere in here - check it out.
    
    what I saw in Ireland was that they'll pour several pints at a time. 
    The first pour is 15% Guinness, 85% creamy foam.  They set them off to
    the side for a few minutes until the foam has subsided to some extent.
    
    Then they pour in some more and there's less foam and more stout.  I
    guess it takes 3-8 pours before it's complete.
    
    There's two numbers I'm not sure about - how many pours?  how long
    between each one.
    
    JO'R
    
    P.S.  In Texas - it's one big pour just like it's another US beer! 
    Then the bartender wonders why I give him a strange look and ask him if
    the Guinness Rep. has given him any pouring lessons!!

    Why bother pouring Guinness atall.
    In Glasgow Guinness has in a lot of cases been replaced by Murphy's.
    This is a consequence of Guinness buying over an old Scottish company
    called D.C.L., distillars of whiskeys such as Teachers,and then
    proceeding to crap all over their employees and renage on promises
    to the Scottish Office and people.
    This upset Glaswegians, so they retaliated the only way they could,they
    stopped buying Guinness.
    But being good Celts they had to drink something,so Murphy's stepped
    in to fill the gap.
    To my rather ravaged taste buds,too much Bushmills and Indian
    takeaways, Murphy's is a far smoother pint.
    The best place to sup a pint or ten of Murphy's in Glasgow is a
    place called the Riverside Club.
    It has an old fashioned atmosphere,good Scottish and Irish music
    and lots of wild and energetic dancing.
    If you're ever in this neck of the woods give it a try any Friday
    or Saturday night,you won't be disappointed.
    
    
                                                 Awrabest
    
                                                 Ta,ta the noo,
    
    
                                                 Kenny
    

   Cousin Kenny,
    
    Glad to hear you frequent the 'Riverside', next time your there
    tell Ci (the owner) that 'Big Robin - from Cork' was asking for
    him. I used to go there all the time when it first opened. Do you
    also then know his previous establishment, the 'Dunrobin', used
    to be in George st., but was knocked down a few years back ?? A
    great old pub with great beer and not short of character or characters.
    
    This this mean you also frequent the 'Vikki' doon the road ??? If
    so then I must have crossed your path at some stage.
    
    To get back on track. It doesn't matter how you pour from a bottle
    as it'll taste the same anyway but if you go too fast then you'll
    be left with a head that's too big. As to pouring from taps then
    if it's not in Ireland it doesn't matter as much as the stout for
    export is not the same as that sold on the home market. 
    
    I'm sure one of the 3 musketeers will vouch for that..........

    They've just opened a second Irish pub in Munich, with the dreadful
    name of 'Shamrock' (I thought only Ammies had names like that !!)
    but they serve a nice Guinness and Smithwicks.

    
               	- Robin...........

    
    
    >re .1 
    
    Robbie
    
    Where is this new place the "Shamrock"..I suppose it has to be
    "Tested". Ive never heard of anyplace here selling Smithwicks before,
    though ..as you probably know..It would be hard for it to compete
    with the local lagers around here..As for the way the pour Guinness
    over here..Its an insult to a glass.
                                                                         
    Slainte,
    
    Mick
    

    Mick,
    
    Its in a street called "Trautenwolf str." (trout-and-wolf!!). Its
    far bigger than the other Irish pub with a more Irish clientele
    and staff !! Also, music most nights and it's got late night extensions
    (until 2:00 am I think) during the 'fest. They have however retained
    that annoying habit that the other place has (i.e. pay as you drink!!)
    which is not the norm as you know. Most places you pay as you leave
    (very honest the Germans !!).
    
    I tried to draw a map but it didn't work. However it's 2 streets
    up from Giseletrasse (the U-bahn stop for the old-Irish pub)
    on the same side of the road heading out of town.
    
    	- Robbie............

    OK, you piqued my German curiousity. 
    
    Where was I in Munich last year?  I was at this small (narrow) Irish
    pub, kind of L-shaped.  There were mostly Germans there (and a few
    Irish that worked at BMW).  There was an electronic dart board right
    to the left as you entered.  And there was enough Irish paraphenalia
    floating on the walls and on the ceilings to stock another Shannon
    duty free shop.  It was in a relatively nice section of town a couple
    of streets from some U-bahn stop.
    
    Anybody have any ideas?
    -george

    George,
    
    That was/is the "Irish Folk Pub", until recently the only Irishy
    pub in Munich (although Mick might claim Jolly's is Irish !!!). 
    Its owners are German and their only claim to having any connection to 
    the Emerald Isle is that the wife worked for Aer Lingus in Germany for
    2 years !!!. The owner is a bit of a nutter, with a drink on him,
    and has been known to assault his clients when the mood takes him.
    Also singing or generally having a good time is frowned upon. That's
    why it's mostly Germans that go there !! But they've been there
    for 12 years and I must admit to having had some good nights there.
    
    Now we have a second one, not far away from where you were (5 mins),
    owned and run by legit Irish.
    
		- Robin.......    

    
    
    Thats the "old Irish pub" in the Swabing area..just off Gieslestrase.
    Your right in the description..It has mostly Germans in there as
    it can be "quiet" for some people...Ive known a few Irish people
    to be "barred" for making too much noise......The pub is in a
    residential area so the locals were complaining a wee bit. Furthur
    out a bit is the Harmonica bar where a number of Irish "live".
    It has turned to serving Irish stew! at the moment..desperate stuff.
    Very sound bar man..throws in an extra round now and again if he
    sees your on a session..will play irish music if you ask.
    
    Mick

    Howzitgaun cousin,great to hear from you again.
    I don't know how to say this but I have a sneaking suspicion that
    I'm not quite as long in the tooth as you.
    But enough of this gay wit and repartee lets discuss important things
    like bevy and more bevy.
    Tell me cus.when do you think you'll be back in the Holy City,we
    should get together to quaff an ale or ten.
    As for the Riverside rest easy it,unlike the rest of Glasgow, hasn't
    changed a bit,the beer is still beautifull and the girls even more
    so,the jigging is still as energetic and the bands are top notch.
    Doesn't it make you want to come back to Mungo's Dear Green Place?
    
    
    
                                                      Awrabest,
    
                                              Your sometimes sober cousin
                   
                                                      Kenny.
    
    
    
    
    
    

    Kenneth,
     
    If 28 is long in the tooth, then I'll just pack my bags now..........
    
    	- Robin............
    

	RE: -.9

		The Harmonica is definatly work checking out. Even though it's
	not an Irish pub it has a good atmosphere and the clientel are
	friendly, but playing pool there (there is a pool table in the
	pub) can be detremental to your health! They have some crazy rules.
	Although Mick "the Hussler" Keyes fairly wiped the table with a few
	of them last time we were there! Even had a go at arm wrestling after
	that.

		Unfortunately they do not serve Guinness there (draft anyway,
	they may have it in bottles, I'm not sure).

	

        Cathal.

    re .4,
    
    Hi there Robbie - after 3 1/2 years in Munich, I've returned to
    Ayr (stupid time to leave - just before the 'fest', but there
    ye go - when you got to go, you got to go ).
    
    Re. the "Shamrock" - usually notes are pretty quick, but not this
    time - I first heard of this place from one of my sons !. It
    seems that this place has become very well known in a very short
    time.
    
    Joe

    
    
    Well thats it...I suppose it has to be tested and tryed..Theres a
    few people going up to Munich from here next Wednesday..Beerfest
    first..and maybe the Rangers slaughter  (Football match for those
    who dont know)....afterwards...
    Cathal "Christ wheres the back door" Copas..will be drawing up
    a few "plans" "routes" for the session.
    
    Theres also an Irish pub near landsberg..about 40 miles south of
    Munich..which is ok...Jollies isn't that bad either in Munich.Robbie??
    and its not far from the beerfest site..
    
    
    
    
                                            

    re .13
    
    Joe, 
    
    When you start hearing about pubs from your sons and leaving Munich
    before the Oktoberfest...........
    
    I reckon it's time to get the pipe and slippers out........
    
    	- Robbie......

    
    	Speaking of Irish Pubs - anyone been to/heard anything about
    a new pub on RT. 9  between Southboro/Framingham called OWEN
    O'LEARY'S??	  
    
    	Ann

    Is the "Old Timer" in Clinton still in existence. There is a certain
    group of Galwegians who drank it dry on numerous occasions.
    
    	MBr

    Ann,
    	I believe Owen O'leary's is the former Bullwinkles. Haven't
    been there since ny youth. Will have to check it out soon.
    
    				Mike

    WOW! I can,t believe how far of the subject you folks got in such
    a short period of time. That's ok ..... I know how difficult 
    technical questions can be for Irishmen .......... after all, I'm
    one me'self.
    
    Jim

    I know a good direction to take this note in - 
    
    Congratulations to Ann O'Neil!!  Sorry, it took so long to say anything
    Ann.  He's a lucky man, he is.
    My best to you both.
    
    JO'R
    

    
    Gettin back on the topic, I know when I used to work in a pub
    many years back that the Guinness taps were such that you pulled
    the tap towards you for the first pour and filled the glass about
    75% full.Then you let it sit, and then put the tap in the opposite
    direction for the head and let it sit.In pouring the black stuff
    you make sure to hold the glass at an angle such that it pours down
    the side of the glass (the inside of course).
    Having said that I was recently working in my brothers pub in Dundalk,
    and was surprised to see that the taps are one way only now. Technology
    has taken over. The secret in a good pint is having the barrels
    of Guinness under the bar,which provides for a short run to the
    taps and in keeping the pipes flushed clean.
    
    I am in the infortunate position of having to go to Guinness next
    week for a few weeks consultancy. Woe is me, Can I handle it???
    the guinness i mean....
    
    regards peter.
    

    I am stocking up for the holidays with plenty of GUINNESS of course,
    however I had a request for SMITHWICKS as well. I have searched
    high and low with no luck. Is SMITHWICKS available in bottles in
    the States???.  How about Seattle,Wa. ????   THX

    A point of information for all you thirsty Guinness fans:
    
    After 3 years of "test marketing" Draught Guinness in cans in
    three select markets in the U.S. (Washington, DC, S.F. Bay area, and 
    Detroit, (I think)), Guinness finally has their act together and
    will be going national with the product in July. (It's about time!)
    
    Guinness importer claims they will be introducing it to all U.S.
    markets (including New England) in July.
    
    Of course, the best stout anywhere can only be had in CORK -
    Murphy's real Irish stout. ;^>     

    
    Hey KeVin,
    
    And I'm gonna be in the S.F. Bay area!!!!
    
    Nah nah..na na nah!  :^)
    
    /jen
    

    
    You can't drink it if you can't spell it correctly !!!	:-)
    
    
    
    keVin
    

    
    	aw come on herr ::DROTTER!
    
    	guinness is the ambrosia that flows from dublin....
    
    	no comparisons.

    re: .26
    
           <guinness is the ambrosia that flows from dublin....
     
    Guinness is made from one of the other things thats flows from Dublin:
    
    the Liffey!
    
    And may I remind you of the late, lamented Brendan Behan's comment
    about the Liffey:
    
    "Pull the chain, and in a jiffy, 
      your $#!7 is floating down the Liffey."
    
    Like I said before , the only real Irish stout can only be had in CORK -
    Murphy's IRISH stout. ;^> 

    
    	yer still an opinionated pea brain, herr ::DROTTER....
    
    	and ya can't bully me!!

    re: .28
    
    Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned... ;^>

    	 Had to settle for Murphy's at the Point saturday night.....
    	Almost ruined my evening ;-)
       Good thing Van the Man was there to cheer me up!
    

    
    	aw give me details, puhleezz....
    
    	how long did he sing? the man's repertoire stretches decades!	  

    Well now,  Van was brilliant! In great form. 2 1/2 hour show. Band
    consistin of horns 3(trumpet,sax,soprano sax), Guitar, Keybords, Bass,
    Drums, Purcussion, and "The Man" himself. Ran through the begining of
    the set with not so familliar tunes,(read, not a greatest hits
    set).
         Next hour started with two songs from his 'Irish Heartbeat'
    recorded with the Cheiftans, 'My Lagan Love' and 'Star of the County
    Down'. Then he reached back and kicked a** with G-L-O-R-I-A! Invited
    Bono on stage to help with this one. The crowd went nuts.
    
        T'was a full moon so 'Moon Dance' with a touch of 'My
    Funny Valentine'thrown in was cranked through. Four encores later gave
    his "tribute to Bob Dylan" with 'Its All Over Now Baby Blue'.
     For this he brought on stage, Chrissie Hynde, Bono, Elvis
    Costello,Kris Kristofferson, Stevie Winwood, and of course Bob Dylan.
    Chrissie helped out on vocals, Bob mostly on harmonica, Stevie W. gave a
    great solo on organ, Bono on vocals......what a finale!
             Seats were good, sound was great, big venue, sorta like the
    Centrum. Mixed crowd, young and old. Murphy's wasn't half bad actually.
    Any port in a storm, I suppose.;-) 2.50 a pint though. Back to Jury's
    after the show for the REAL THING!
    
    				`GUINNESS'!
           
               

    
    	aaah! sounds absolutely wonderful!
    
    	thanks.

    Another point of info for you thirsty Guinness fans in Mass.:
    
    I was in my favourite beverege emporium on Saturday (in Mass.)
    and there it was: Genuine Guinness pub draught in a can. 4-pak
    for $5.95
    
    According to the owner, he's had it for sale, for about three weeks now.
    
    
    I had to buy several 4-paks to sample it. And I must say, not bad...
     
    for Liffey water. ;^>