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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
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634.0. "Contract scene in Ireland" by VULCAN::DUGGAN () Mon Aug 21 1989 13:55

Can anyone out there help a poor, unfortunate contractor.

I'm currently on contract in Basingstoke, and am now planning my next move,
(plan no. 154/3a).

Any information on the following would be most welcome. 

What is the contract situation like in Ireland, and in particular -

      names of any agencies (those worth talking to, PLUS those to avoid) ?

      what is the dreaded income tax position (would this be deducted at 
      source, as PAYE; and at what percentage) ? 

      what's the market like at the present, in Dublin ?

                                              thanks,
                                                     Kevin .

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634.1To be sure , to be sure!CURRNT::QUINNWed Aug 23 1989 08:1913
    Kevin,
    
    For starters, last time I was home
    
      Pint       1.58
      Newspaper   .60
      Petrol      .62/litre
      
    
    
    Sure you want to risk blowing your vast accumulated contract fortune!!
    
    Donal.
634.2And worth every penny ?CRATE::DUGGANWed Aug 23 1989 10:323
    Donal,
                Er,  what fortune was that   ?  
                                                             Kevin          
634.3Tax very high here......GAOV08::JDOOLEYThe man they couldn't hangWed Aug 23 1989 10:5530
    Income Tax in ireland is deducted at source for all salaried and
    waged employees.There is also self assessment for self employed
    but both suffer the same rates of tax.Rates of 35%,48% and 56% apply
    on thresholds much narrower than the British system.
    Example a single person on 10,000 p.a will be on 56% tax,double
    allowance for one income marrieds.ALSO 7.5% P.R.S.I is deducted
    from ALL income with NO allowances up to 18k. p.a and 2% thereafter
    These deductions make overtime etc. a joke because two third of
    your o/t premiums vanish to the tax-man.
    Digital and similar industries are not the norm in Ireland where
    most of the workers are in low/medium paid employment in the service
    and agricultural sector,there also exists a high level of evasion
    which is being clamped down on very forcibly at the moment.
    These factors plus the high rate of unemployment means there is
    a stoic, if reluctant acceptance of these punitive rates of tax.
    If you counter-balance this with relatively uncluttered roads outside
    Dublin,low property costs and a more relaxed lifestyle then Ireland
    isn't half bad,but it's not the place to make REAL money.......
    From what I read in the papers a lot of computer work involves state
    or semi-state bodies who require tax clearance certificates for
    all tenders submitted ,they also report ALL payments to the taxman.
    ALL professional services are subject to a retention tax of 35%
    regardless of allownces expenses etc, refunds are then made when
    you submit a tax return and satisfy the Taxman about your accounts.
    Cars,electronics,drink,entertainment,petrol,are taxed heavily as
    luxuries,dearer than Britain,clothes can be cheaper,accomodation
    outside Dublin much much cheaper and no problem getting close to
    work.Roads not so good but improving all the time.
    Must sign off now,
    			John Dooley, Digital,Ballybrit,Galway
634.4Potential StoicCHEST::DUGGANThu Aug 24 1989 09:267
Thanks for the information John.

I can see a man would need to be committed to the quality of life (eg. decent
pints of natural), rather than big punts, if one was to live in Ireland.

Can you advise, does the stoicism come gradually, or in a mighty burst ?

634.5Not Dublin!!!!EGAV01::JDOOLEYThe man they couldn't hangThu Aug 24 1989 12:2918
    Depends,for self employed every April and October for others every
    month/week,on payday ;).
    Seriously though Ireland has a lot to offer in the line of good
    Golf (I dont play but those who do say its cheaper and better than
    most places),good schools for the kids, good pubs  and less hassle
    than U.K. To really enjoy Ireland stay outside Dublin (the Dubs
    wiil slate me for this) but living conditions there are much the
    same as U.K but with high Tax,the worst of both worlds.
    The people by and large are very friendly but there is a large element
    of vandalism/theft which makes life very unpredictable and calls
    for more security than I care to live with.ie. having to double
    lock your front door and set the alarm on your car is more hassle
    than I need on top of worrying about it whenI am absent.
    In short the level of crime in the rural areas of Ireland is much
    lower than Dublin.The ideal would be to live on the fringe,ie 20
    mi.from the city centre and commute .this may take some time but
    is worth it for the peace of mind it affords .