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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

505.0. "Coverting video tapes to US style" by CSCMA::COSTIGAN (Paul SSM-CSCMA - 292 2284 ) Mon Feb 13 1989 17:31

    
    Hi ,
    
    does any reader of this notes file know where to get an IRISH style
    PAL Video tape converted to the standard used here in the US ? .
    
    I know that some of the 'Irish' bars here in Boston get tapes of
    sports events sent over so there must be a way !!

    Thanks ,
    
    /Paul
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505.1What about US -> Irish ??REFINE::FARRELLThe Hacker. DTN 235-8164Tue Feb 14 1989 08:337
  I'd also be interested in finding out how to go the other way, from
  U.S. format to something to run on a Irish system.

  Any ideas ??

  Bernard.
505.2Videotape ConversionsMTWAIN::WARDSTILL a PizzaholicTue Feb 14 1989 11:287
VideoTroupe, in Derry, NH, does PAL<->VHS conversions on video tapes.

'Sorry, I don't have the number with me, but a place I used to work had 
these conversions done all of the time for overseas tradeshows.

Randy

505.3Not listed ..CSCMA::COSTIGANPaul SSM-CSCMA - 292 2284 Tue Feb 14 1989 17:539
    Randy ,
    
    I tried directory enquiries in NH but "Sorry we have no listing ...."
    
    Any ideas ??
    
    /Paul
    
    
505.4Might be worth a try.HOO78C::ANDERSONRatholes made to mesmerize.Wed Feb 15 1989 03:228
    You could try contacting FNYFS::BOWEN his first name is Kevin. He is an
    expat Englishman (not his fault, I blame his parents personally :-)) He
    seems to be able to read video tapes in all formats and may be able to
    advise you. 
    
    Don't tell him that I sent you.
    
    Jamie.
505.5Phone # for VideoTroupeMTWAIN::WARDSTILL a PizzaholicWed Feb 15 1989 12:3611
    
>    I tried directory enquiries in NH but "Sorry we have no listing ...."
    
Paul:

  They're actually in Windham, a little town just west of Salem.  
Strange, they should be in the Salem phone book!  Anyway, the number is:

			(603) 893-4554    

Randy
505.6Phone EDU Services Video GroupVOGON::WALTERSThu Feb 16 1989 09:4012
    Speak to Educational Services in Bedford Mass - the video department
    may be able to give you the names of companies in the Mass area
    that convert PAL or SECAM to NTSC.  (They once did this for my group
    to master IVIS videodisks from PAL tape.) 
    
    I checked this with ESD&P Europe - they have a similar service in
    the UK, although they did warn me that it costs about $1.50 per minute
    of video (gulp) to convert a master tape.
    
    regards,
    
    Colin
505.7It's VERY expensiveREFINE::FARRELLThe Hacker. DTN 235-8164Thu Feb 16 1989 13:2415
>  They're actually in Windham, a little town just west of Salem.  
>Strange, they should be in the Salem phone book!  Anyway, the number is:

>			(603) 893-4554    


I just rang them.  They subcontract out the work.  They told me it's
"frankly astronomical".  Costs for transfer and then - if you want it -
for duplication.  He said ballpark for about a 7 minute tape was
$100 !!!!

I'll have to try and find a cheaper way.

Bernard.
505.8MTWAIN::WARDSTILL a PizzaholicThu Feb 16 1989 16:028
>$100 !!!!
>
> I'll have to try and find a cheaper way.

Geez!  I don't blame you!  I never saw the invoices, just handled the 
taping, but that's definitely out of my league!

Randy
505.9screen-to-cameraVOGON::WALTERSFri Feb 17 1989 06:4916
    $100,  flatten me gronkers with a gritclub!
    
    There's a way of getting an appallingly poor quality copy:
    
    You find a VCR that plays any format - like the semi-pro Panasonic
    D6000 (there's always a few round DEC).  And the largest screen
    you can find - a projection screen is good.
    
    Beg, steal, borrow or *hire* a vcr camera and copy off the screen.
    You can make direct connections for the sound, so at least that
    will not degrade too much in quality.  Don't expect too much....
    
    regards
    
    Colin
    
505.10Here's a few places, but $$$DELI::GREENAWAYMon Feb 27 1989 16:3360
    
    I have a wedding video in PAL format that I've looked into transfering
    to US NTSC format.  When I was in Bedford taking a course I queried
    their video department on it.  They told me that they always send
    their's out to one of two places.
    
     ProFax Inc
     264 Monsignor O'Brien Hwy
     Cambridge, MA
     (617) 625-1170
    
     Video Express
     257 Hillside Ave
     Needham, Ma
     (508) 449-1537   (Contact Lisa Conroy)
                       
     Both of these companies are high quality digital translation and
     charge you for their invested equipment.  They guanentee 100% quality
     duplication.  However, they charge;
     	$200  -  60 minutes
        $265  -  90 minutes
        $360  - 120 minutes
        $500  -   3 hours
    
    I don't know about you, but this was way too steep for me.  One
    of the companies I spoke to mentioned another cheaper place that
    does a screen display-retape process, that the previous reply mentioned.
    They are;
   
     	Instant Replay
    	475 Winter St (exit 27B off of Rt128)
        Waltham, MA
        (617) 890-8965
    
    They charge $40 + the cost of a blank for a 60 minute tape, but
    admit about an 80% loss in picture quality by their means.
    I decided I'd give it a try.  They said they couldn't track in on my
    tape and the picture wouldn't steady, so they gave me my tape back
    and said "sorry".
    
    I gave up looking for now, but maybe the previous reply has the
    right idea, a DIY by scrounging Digital equipment.  Although, I
    was wondering if you'll also need a European TV monitor, due to
    the different horizontal resolution.  The US is 4 hundred and something
    and Europes is 5 hundred something.
    
    
    If anybody comes up with a proven DIY setup or a good ideal for
    conversions, please let me know.
    
    Cheers,
    Paul   DTN 247-2021
                   
    
    PS.  I married a Dublin woman and you know how they are...
         We were married in Dublin near Artain and had our reception
         at the Beaufield Mews in Stillorgan.  A great place for a 
         reception.
      
    
505.11DUB01::OSULLIVAN_DDie Gedanken sind freiTue Feb 28 1989 09:196
    I did an SPI course recently using ED Services equipment.  They
    had a multi-function recorder (PAL,NTSC.SECAM) and the monitor also
    took PAL and NTSC.  I used both European and U.S. tapes without
    any problems.  Worth a try?
    
    -Dermot MacBride
505.12Which Ed Services?DELI::GREENAWAYTue Feb 28 1989 11:1815
    RE: .11
    
    Dermot,
    
    Where is this Ed Service equipment you talk about, Dublin, Galway,
    Bedford?
    You were just viewing, correct.  You didn't try a tape-to-tape copy
    or a tape-to-monitor-video_camera copy with the different formats
    did you?
    If it was Ed Services in Bedford, can you give me a contact to get
    my foot in the door?
    
    Cheers,
    Paul Greenaway
    Tewksbury, Mass DTN  247-2021
505.13MARCIE::KSULLIVANWed Mar 01 1989 11:183
    You can, as some have, buy a video recorder with dual systems, i.e.
    at the flick of a switch, it will play either format. Costs about
    $1600, but you never have the problem again.
505.14DUB01::OSULLIVAN_DDie Gedanken sind freiFri Mar 03 1989 06:3311
    Paul
    
    It was in the Dublin office I'm afraid and yes I was just viewing.
    A multi-system VCR, as pointed out in .12 would appear to be the
    best bet, especially if you anticipate receiving more tapes from
    Ireland. 
    
    You might also want to check the VIDEO conference with your query.
    Maybe there is a Decie near you...
    
    -Dermot
505.15Celtic Productions in New YorkVLNVAX::MDLYONSMichael D. Lyons DTN 297-5911Fri Mar 03 1989 21:4620
    	From an ad in the Irish Echo  (note that I know nothing about 
    this company - I only read the ad):
    
    	Video Transfers
    
    	Irish & Overseas Videos To American Standard & Vice Versa
    
    	Great Prices - $35 per hour
    
    	Only $20 each extra hour
    
    	ALSO o Quality Duplications o Film & Slides To Video o Free
    	"Videos of Ireland" catalog
    
    	(212) 689-4853
    
    		CELTIC PRODUCTIONS
    
    	527 Third Ave. (35th St.)
    	New York, NY 10016