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Title:Celt Notefile
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Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
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494.0. "Ireland v France Rugby Match" by FLOCON::AUNGIER (Test drive a 8700 in the Test Centre) Fri Jan 20 1989 07:01

    Saturday is the opening of the 5 nations cup. This is the annual
    rugby competition.
    
    Digital have for many years now sponsored Ireland in the home
    internationals, I would like to know how this came about.
    
    The French travel to Landsdowne Road. I will be here in France but
    I will make my own bit of athmosphere with some of the local Irish
    lads and the French. We will have a good day come hell or high water
    but it's not the same as being at Landstown Road area before, during
    and after the match, the crack is great.
    
    Well I am hoping that this year is a better one for the team.
    
    Come on the Green White and Orange. As I would like to say lets
    eat some cock (The French National Symbol) on Saturday as we are
    very hungry.
    
    Ren�
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494.1Just trying to help .....STEREO::BURNSUp The BannerFri Jan 20 1989 09:1913
    
    
    	Rene: I took the liberty of modifying your original note title.
    	      Some people might get the wrong impression   :-)
    
    
    		Up The Dubs   !!!
    
    
    
    
    	keVin
    
494.2have to be REALLY hungry....VOGON::WALTERSFri Jan 20 1989 11:358
    
    >    Come on the Green White and Orange. As I would like to say lets
    > eat some cock (The French National Symbol) on Saturday as we are
    > very hungry.
    
    Giving the wrong impression?  God only knows what the title was...
    
    C.
494.3STEREO::BURNSUp The BannerFri Jan 20 1989 13:2513
    
    
    re: .2
    
    
    You don't want to know, believe me, you don't want to know !! :=)

                                                                  
    keVin
    
    
    	p.s. Your on the right track ..
    
494.4I'm sick of budgets!!!FSLPRD::KSULLIVANFri Jan 20 1989 13:5722
    You French types are ever so kinky......reminds me of a definition
    proported by a female friend of ours in Galway, that the ideal lover 
    was a frenchman with a nine inch tongue (moustache optional).
                                                  
    Of course I never understood any of this. We who were brought up
    in a very sheltered catholic environment, thought only of prayer
    lolipops and soccer. 
    
    We should never have joined the EEC, it opened the floodgates to all
    sorts of strange ideas and practices. keVin the Scotsman has a
    moustache but I haven't seen his tongue. Maybe he's only half Scottish
    and half French. I must ask my source about his great-great grandfather. 
    Probably escaped the guillotine during the revolution and fled to the 
    highlands disguised as a postman or a shepard. I tell you, nine inch 
    tongues may not run in the family but they're cute as foxes.
    
    Yours whose fragility is ever so perturbed by this french talk and
    is on his knees praying for the salvation of the lost souls and
    the return to the path of righteousness AMEN,
    
                        Murphy (the omnipotent one).
                        
494.5Here we goFLOCON::AUNGIERTest drive a 8700 in the Test CentreSat Jan 21 1989 08:3020
    Well it is 14.30 here in France and the athmosphere is zero but
    I can almost hear the chatter and noise of Landstown Road, the pubs
    full of Irish and French supporters trying to communicate with another,
    no one really understanding the other but having a beer together
    anyway, what the hell, on a day like today, who needs to understand
    the spoken language, the hands and feet work wonders when you are
    trying to explain something to a foreigner.
    
    I have the old Ireland football jersey on and am off now to any
    corner of the place I find a bit of athmosphere, they might get
    confused with my name, some of the Irish I meet, but they won't
    be confused by my jersey, or maybe today with a name like mine the
    French will get confused with my jersey, oh, so what.
    
    Here we go Here we go. 
    
    
    I..R..E..L..A..N..D, Ireland.
    
    El Gringo (With the good Irish name)
494.6TPVAX2::CULBERTFree Michael CulbertMon Jan 23 1989 09:378
    
    
    Now see what you all have done, Murphy is back  Damn!!!!!

                                   8*)
    
    paddy
    
494.7French Cock kicks ass...FERNEY::HEWSONSage comme une image...Mon Jan 30 1989 15:549
    A full week later and nobody has dared mention that we got beat...

    Pressure of work has kept output from that effervescent north-sider
    gringo to a minimum, or could it be embarresment ?

    Beaten or not, was that a good performance or wha ?

    BRIAN.
    (Le jackeen dans le pays de cock).
494.8The best Championship match for years.GAO::MHUGHESTue Jan 31 1989 04:12274
    Leaprechauns forgot to post this here.
    (following extract from the best net paper in the world - "Irish
     Emigrant").
         
                > > > > > > > >  R U G B Y  < < < < < < < <
     
                            IRELAND  v  FRANCE
     
              LANDSDOWNE ROAD - SATURDAY, JANUARY 21st, 1989
                           Reporter: Mike Hughes
     
     
     The opening game of the championship for both protagonists and 
     all the uncertainty that this brings with it was not a matter for 
     discussion in advance of this game.  No way, France were total 
     favourites for this game which was being incorrectly billed as a 
     match.  The smoked salmon was being devoured by the hungry hordes 
     from the Loire valley who made the bi-annual pilgrimage to Dublin 
     to support the roosters, "Allez les petits".  The only Irish 
     comfort to be drawn from all this pre-match speculation was the 
     sometimes amazing ability of the Frenchmen to assimilate the wine 
     and travel badly.
     
     It was a cold blustery afternoon in Landsdowne Road with the 
     threat of showers lingering throughout.  A day for hot toddies 
     and other liquid anti-freeze precautionary measures, and rugby 
     fans in general are particular about the size of their measures.
     
     The Irish preparations for this event were the main source of the 
     outsiders tag on their heads.  Two victories over Western Samoa 
     and Italy were fashioned in very inauspicious circumstances. 
     France's last outing against the Irish was at Parc de Princes 
     last year where they annihilated the Irish, scoring five tries 
     and missing all the conversions but still victorious by a score 
     of 26 - 6.  Jim Davidson the Irish coach has not had a happy time 
     in charge of the Irish team and for him this game was a 
     tempre-test of his policies.
     
     Landsdowne Road is always packed to the gunwales for the 
     championship games and this was to be no exception.  The blustery 
     wind would play a vital role in the proceedings, but it would not 
     interfere with the sun despite the threats to do so.  Digital 
     continues to sponsor all the home games of the Irish team at 
     Landsdowne Road, but I have yet to sample the atmosphere despite 
     my efforts in dabbling at the oval ball game.
     
     Ireland won the toss and elected to play with the breeze in the 
     first-half.
     
     From the French kick off, there was early Irish fire.  There was 
     clear intent by the pack to carry the war to the French and 
     outsmart the pundits - again!  In the first four lineouts the 
     Irish won clean possession and Dean kicked for touch each time, 
     using the wind.  Blanco was on hand to prevent a couple of 
     efforts from making the sanctuary of the sideline area, however 
     nothing came of the counter-attacks.  The French were beginning 
     to look distinctly uncomfortable under the high dropping balls 
     and the Irish fire ensured that there would be plenty of those.  
     In those opening minutes the forwards won everything and the 
     second phase of possession was of the highest quality.  On the 
     five minute mark Dean hoisted the Garryowen deep into the French 
     22 metre zone, and two French backs cocked it up.  The ball 
     bounced off their shoulders to the left and directly into the 
     path of Brendan Mullin who had the easiest of tasks to snatch up 
     the offering and scamper unattended over the line about 10 metres 
     to the left of the post.  There was a magnificent outburst in the 
     stands and terraces.  Kiernan popped over the conversion attempt 
     and the score stood at 6-0.
     
     The early pattern was emerging and the omens were very positive 
     for the underdogs.  They were cleaning up in the set pieces and 
     the scrummaging was much improved with a solid platform being set 
     up on the home side's ball.  Also at this point the Irish back 
     row was rampant.  Noel Mannion and Pat O'Hara were prominent in 
     the loose and the attitude being displayed was one of 
     belligerence and defiance.  For France, only Rodriguez was 
     preserving French honour.
     
     On the ninth minute Berbizier was miles offside in a short Irish 
     lineout and Kiernan stepped up and again added the punishment and 
     the score was 9-0.  From the kick off the Irish pack won 
     possession and forged downfield in what was one of the best Irish 
     mauls that I've ever seen.  Rolling, peeling and driving, the 
     French were in tatters.  Then the  tempers flew and Bruno - Tyson 
     preliminaries were indulged in.  From the scrummage the Irish won 
     cleanly and at the breakdown of the ball on the French 38 metre 
     line Andrieu got into an offside position.  Kiernan stepped up 
     and repeated the dose, 12 - 0 to Ireland and 15 minutes gone.  A 
     better start couldn't have been asked for.
     
     France tried to counter, and for the first time in this game we 
     saw the magic as the white tide descended on the Irish 22 metre 
     area.  The handling and the support play was only magnifique and 
     the renowned French elan is the finest sight in the game.
     
     Ireland won a scrum from the breakdown of the movement and Noel 
     Mannion went on a blind side charge up the wing under the new 
     East Stand.  He made a full 20 metres before handing off to the 
     support.  It too was a sight for sore eyes and typified the 
     determination of the Irish.  Fergus Ahearn was enjoying himself 
     and why wouldn't he, for only "all black" scrum-halves enjoy such 
     possession.
     
     A ruck developed and Ireland were driven right back onto their 
     own line by a French assault that was called back to the middle 
     of the park because the touch judge saw a French player rake an 
     Irish player on the ground in a ruck.  This led to a terrific 
     Irish attack that should have yielded an Irish try had Dean 
     passed to his last man outside in the last 5 yards before the 
     line.  France conceded a 5 metre scrum and Ireland spoiled their 
     possession and for a fleeting moment another try was imminent. 
     The play got a little scrappy and Dean tried a dropped goal but 
     failed. 23 minutes had now elapsed and it was 99% of everything 
     for Ireland except the scoreline, they had 100% of that.
     
     Five minutes later, when Dean hadn't quite got hold of another 
     Garryowen, Carmanati was penalised for blocking the attackers and 
     Kiernan missed his first set piece.  The French 22 metre drop out 
     was sliced so Ireland got a scrum back on the 22 metre line. 
     Cecillion the French flanker got offside in the scrum.  It was 
     the simplest of kicks and Michael Kiernan tapped it squarely over 
     the black spot in the middle of the crossbar.  There were 33 
     minutes on the clock and the score was 15 - 0.
     
     The pundits were looking uncomfortable; their heads were 
     swimming, this was not the Ireland they had been talking about.  
     From the kick-off a maul developed into a unbridled free for all 
     that died down again without any casualties.  From a lineout 
     shortly afterwards on the French 10 metre line France won clean 
     possession and set up a wide sweeping assault that strung 
     together the most electrifying passes and with Serge Blanco in 
     the line the Irish line was breached.  Jean Lafonde going in at 
     the corner flag.  Lafonde was also entrusted with the kicking 
     duties but the conversion attempt was beyond him.
     
     That was in the 38 minute.  In the 39th minutes Ireland got 
     another penalty for French barging in the lineout, and Kiernan 
     did the business once more.  The French got a penalty on the 
     Irish 10 metre line on the stroke of half time and though he 
     slipped as he struck the ball the attempt was good and the 
     half-time score was 18-7.
     
     It had been a rip-roaring half of exciting rugby.  The French had 
     been subdued.  The Irish had played the game of their lives and 
     they were worth everything they had on the scoreline.  The pack 
     in particular had been the butt of some major criticisms and 
     their performance gave the most satisfaction.  Jim McCoy, Pat 
     O'Hara, and Mannion in particular were playing their finest.  
     Only Rodriguez and Blanco were consistent on the French side 
     although the two times they got their attack going they looked 
     spectacularly dangerous.  For the second half the breeze would 
     favour the Frenchmen but Ireland had an 11 point cushion, would 
     it be enough?  My own feelings were that it would but only if 
     Ireland could engineer one or two more scores first. 
     
     From the kick off Ireland won the ball and got the attack going 
     with Jim McCoy prominent in the drive.  Ireland won a penalty from 
     a difficult angle given the wind, but Kiernan once again slotted it 
     over.  There were only two minutes gone and the score was 21-7. 
     French fat was beginning to sizzle.
     
     At this time the French were making many technical errors and 
     from one such error, a crooked-in, the Irish set up a terrific 
     drive for the French line.  It was the pack driving to the line 
     in fiery Irish fashion, but the last pass broke down when Tom 
     Clancy knocked on with the line at his mercy.  France drove back 
     downfield and were awarded a penalty that Lafond missed when it 
     came back off the upright.  After 12 minutes David Irwin was 
     caught offside and this time Lafond scored from the easier 
     position and the score was 21-10.
     
     Fergus Ahearn was fly kicking with great effectiveness and much 
     territory was being regained.  The Irish pack got going once 
     again in the loose and carried the ball right up the French line 
     only to have Tom Clancy knock on for the second time with the 
     line at his mercy.  Those two fumbles were very fortunate events 
     for the French.  There was 17 minutes gone and the score of 21 - 
     10 was slightly flattering to the French.
     
     The French repeated the first half dose by running the ball wide 
     from a lineout on the Irish 10 metre line and with Blanco making 
     the vital pass despite a terrific tackle from Irwin he sent 
     Lagisquet over in the corner.  Lafond passed the kicking duties 
     over to Blanco but he too failed the conversion attempt.  19 
     minutes were gone and the score was 21-14.  France were back in 
     the game but they still needed two scores to win.  France piled 
     on the pressure and the intensity of the game reached its 
     pinnacle.  Ireland drove down deep into the French 22 metre zone 
     from a blockdown by Smith, Franck Mesnel collected the ball under 
     pressure and turned to counter attack from almost on his own 
     line.  He wove his way past three tackles and the French tide was 
     flowing again.  In the most spectacular movement of the game the 
     French drove downfield and at every breakdown of the ball there 
     were three Frenchmen on hand for the pickup.  Desperate Irish 
     defence broke down the play on at least four occasions during the 
     movement but Mesnel following up kept the movement going and with 
     a final flourish the ball was swept out to Blanco who went in 
     unopposed under the posts.  He couldn't miss the conversion from 
     that position.  Irish fat was beginning to sizzle.  They now held 
     the grimmest of one point leads, and everything was happening for 
     a rampant French team.  There were still 16 minutes left of play.
     
     France piled on the pressure but the Irish held out despite 
     conceding a 5 metre scrum.  They not only survived but they 
     counter attacked as well.  With 10 minutes remaining Ireland were 
     back up to the French 22 metre line.
     
     France kept booting for territorial advantage and were soon back 
     in the Irish half.  Ireland won a lineout on their own 10 metre 
     line, but the pass back was very awkward and bounced off the 
     shins of Ahearn.  France regained possession and started another 
     spectacular movement crossfield that sent Lagisquet over in the 
     corner once more.  Blanco added the conversion points and it was 
     21-26 with 6 minutes of time left.  The French had pulled it out 
     of the jaws of the glaring defeat.  The hardest part to 
     understand is how it had all happened in the space of 16 minutes.  
     After that Bourguignon was injured and replaced by Erbani.  
     Despite this the Irish threw everything into the last few minutes 
     and were back on the French 22 metre line before full time.  
     France withstood the siege and the referee did not add any injury 
     time.
     
     Final score was Ireland 21  France 26.
     
     It was French rugby at its finest that won this day, and it was 
     Irish rugby at its finest that lost it.  I feel that France were 
     fortunate to have won and the turning point was in the two Irish 
     knock-ons right on the French line.  However handling the ball is 
     an art in the game and it was thia that cost the Irish victory, and 
     gained victory for the French.
     
     The Irish defence must come in for some criticism although it was 
     difficult to fault Sexton, Irwin, or Ahearn.  If you let the 
     French run at you when they have the football they will always 
     score.  The Irish defence did not put enough men on the turf when 
     they hit their opponents.
     
     The Irish pack was magnificent to a man.  They proved themselves 
     worthy and they were the most positive item on display.  The much 
     vaunted French pack and their "three prop" front row 
     configuration got a lesson in fire and discipline from their 
     Irish counterparts.  In fact the Irish display made me happy at 
     any rate and I find it hard to recall any incidents where the 
     Irish pack gave away penalties for misdemeanours.
     
     France hauled their ass when it counted most and they must be 
     complimented on their renaissance.  When the French move it there 
     is no finer sight and they treated us to the exhibition often on 
     Saturday.
     
     It was a most exciting game of rugby and it will be difficult to 
     surpass this contest this season for openness and excitement. 
     Irish hearts are not too discouraged by this one, there was no 
     honour lost in this defeat.
     
     
     So much for the pundits - again!!
     
     
     International Results:
       		   Ireland 21	       France 26
       		   Scotland 23	       Wales 7
     
     	      			  P  W	D  L	F    A    Pts
     Scotland 			  1  1	0  0   23    7	   2
     France   			  1  1	0  0   26   21	   2
     Ireland  			  1  0	0  1   21   26	   0
     Wales    			  1  0	0  1	7   23	   0
     England  			  0  0	0  0	0    0	   0
    
    
    Snake tells the story again this weekend.