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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

415.0. "Ulysses and Dublin" by DUB01::POCONNELL (Pat O'Connell) Wed Aug 03 1988 07:28

    Joyce claimed that Dublin itself was one of the characters of
    "Ulysses". As an inmate of the city I certainly find that my
    familiarity with its topology and history enriches my understanding
    and enjoyment (yes! it's humourous, serious, bawdy book) of the
    novel and vice versa (emphasising the vice?).
    
    I'm interested to hear whether the obtrusive presence of the city
    is an obstacle to the general reader unfamiliar with our fair and
    pleasant environs (only partly ironic).
    
    Pat.
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415.1"Rathfarnham Wood" is also nice this time of year.STEREO::BURNSWake up and smell the TurfWed Aug 03 1988 16:1015
    
    
    
    	The best thing in Dublin is the bus for Galway !!   :=)
    
    
    	Only fooling, only fooling.  (haha)
    
    
    	Dublin is truly one of my most favorite cities in the world.
    	Its a great place to be on the "First Sunday" in September.
                                                     
    
    
    	
415.2BRAT::DROTTERThu Aug 04 1988 10:5319
    re. .0 and .1 Both of you CAN'T BE SERIOUS! 
    
    
    
    The ONLY "fair city" in all of Ireland is, by the banks of the
    lovely Lee!!!!      
    
    CORK, of course! 
    
    Dublin and its denizens are mere paltry shadows, when compared to 
    the robust, stalwart, honest, inhabitants of the Coal Quay of Cork!
    
    As we all know, there are only two kinds of people in the world:
    Irish, and those that wish they were! Well, as I understand it,
    amongst the Irish, there are only two kinds, those that hail from
    Cork, and those that wish they did!! 
    
    KeVin and Pat: One can only hope St. Finbarr will forgive your
    "confusion" about this matter.   :^) 
415.3TPVAX3::CULBERTFree Michael CulbertThu Aug 04 1988 12:024
    Hey George....... Will you take this guy Drotter with you where
    ever you are??????????    8*)
    
    
415.4DUB01::POCONNELLPat O'ConnellThu Aug 04 1988 12:0314
    I have the (sorry) 'de' best of both worlds. I was born in Co. Cork
    (Cobh) but became a naturalised Dub.
          
    I would not suggest for one moment that Dublin could hold a candle
    to Cork for physical beauty, charm, hospitality, quality of the
    people etc. etc., however, despite his connections with Cork, it
    is Dublin which is the city of Ulysses.
    
    Now maybe this was a calculated ploy on the Master's part to inflict
    that weird animal 'the Joycean Scholar' on the poor unsuspecting
    citizenry of Dublin.
    
    Pat.
          
415.5Redneck is a redneck is a redneckDUB01::FARRELLFri Aug 05 1988 06:5317
    Listen, you bleedin' redneck, watch wat you say about Dublin. No
    redneck can become a 'naturalised' Dub. Us Dubs are of a supernatural
    quality. After many generations of living in Dublin, some descendents
    of these rednecks are suitable ashamed of thier ancestory and can
    be counted as Dubs  - had to clear meself as a Dub somehow as 1
    grandparent was not a Dub :-)  
    
>        I would not suggest for one moment that Dublin could hold a candle
>    to Cork for physical beauty, charm, hospitality, quality of the
>    people etc. etc., however, despite his connections with Cork, it
>    is Dublin which is the city of Ulysses.
     
    
    If us Dubs could hold a candle to Cork, we'd burn the hole. Quality
    of people, what a joke. Count yourself as a redneck , Mr O'Connell.
    Dubs are going to strike back at this drivel.
    
415.6Redneck and proud of it!DUB01::POCONNELLPat O'ConnellFri Aug 05 1988 08:4410
    I didn't open this topic to be insulted by a gobs---e from Inchicore
    who thinks that culture is something you put on mushrooms. If I
    didn't know that he came of decent stock (his father is a gentleman
    - as was St. Patrick) I wouldn't deign to acknowledge such chauvinism
    and xenophobia. Sorry to use such long words Joe I realise you 'native'
    Dubs have difficultly with the lingo. :-(
    
    Let the rest of us get back to discussing literature!               
                                                         
    
415.7Have we crossed the border yet?TORA::OROURKEFri Aug 05 1988 13:547
    
    Based upon my visit to your fair land, I was starting to wonder
    where Dublin ended and where the rest of Ireland began...talk about
    your sprawling suburbs!  I'm glad to see there is a strong sense
    of local pride left in some of the other great cities.  This is
    also a jab at all those folks that think all of Massachusetts is
    a suburb of Boston!