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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

408.0. "Sin�ad O'Connor - the lion and the serpent" by IJSAPL::ELSENAAR (Wandering... Wondering...) Thu Jul 14 1988 11:36

    In the FOLK_MUSIC notesfile they referred me to this notesfile for
    a question about a poem. At first, I hesitated to write in here:
    so many topic titles in Gaelic(/Celtic?); I was glad to find out
    that most of the text is in English. That gave me the courage to
    go on ;-).
    
    Sin�ad O'Connor uses a poem on her LP called "The lion and the
    serpent". It is recited in the song "Never get old". The poem is
    (in handwritten form) on the sleeve, as well as the translation.
    Since the original poem is handwritten, I cannot decipher everything,
    but I strongly suspect it to be Gaelic.
    The translation of the first three lines is as follows:
        For he will command his angels
        concerning you
        to guard you in all your ways
    I want to know more about this poem:
    - does anyone else recognise it (is it an old poem; it feels like
      one)
    - if so: does/did it have any special use, and who wrote it
    - in what language is it
    - what is the original (decipherable) text
    I would appreciate if someone could help me further.
    
    Arie                    
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408.1don't give up!TORA::OROURKEFri Aug 05 1988 14:0419
    Arie,
    
    You've probably given up hope of getting an answer.  Well, I'm familiar
    with the song, but don't know any more about the poem.  I have the
    Lion and the Cobra, but I bought the casette version.  It has no
    sleeve, hence no lyrics or poetry.
    
    Don't think the people in this conference are anti-social or anything.
    It's just that they are what you would call 'a mature' audience
    (i.e. they probably think Bono is Cher's ex-hubby).  (just
    kidding,guys!)
    
    Anyway, I like the album.  It is quite powerful..not what you would
    call light weight pop material.
    
    Good luck in your search.
    
    Jen
    
408.2 Into the Mystic EGAV01::DKEATINGRoamin' Cadillac Church SAVESFri Sep 23 1988 07:3442
Re .0

'ello Arie,(Sorry Frank Bruno fans ;-) 

I managed to do a little research into your basenote request.
It took me into some strange and not so strange areas,but it
was fun!!!

The "poem" you refer to that is recited in her song 'Never Get
Old' is in fact 'Psalm 91' from the Bible(New Testament). The
language used is Irish(Gaelic) and to be more exact a very old
Donegal Irish translation. In the song it is recited by girl
called Eithne N� Bhraonain who was once a member of the family
group 'Clannad',who come from Co Donegal in Ireland. Sin�ad
O'Connor sings the main part of 'Never Get Old' which she wrote
when she was 15.

I read Psalm 91 last night(strange!) and near the end it refers 
to a lion and a serpent,hence I presume the title for the album
"The Lion and the Cobra". Sin�ad wrote and produced this album
last year when she was 20 and pregnant(I understand she is now
an unmarried mother). the girl has got two characteristics that
are *essential*(for me anyway) in the music industry ie. talent 
and guts...can't wait for her next album. 

I got most of the above information from a back-issue(Nov'87) of 
the Irish music magazine "Hot Press" which contains an interview 
and a review of the album.I can send you the magazine if you are 
interested. There is also a discussion on Sin�ad O'Connor in the
notes_conference COMET::RECORDS under topic 582.* The group Clannad
is discussed here in CELTS topic 279.*

Eithne N� Bhraonain (who now calls herself Enya) has recently 
produced a solo album called 'Enya' which you might want to 
listen to.

	'Now who said we Irish weren't helpful?' ;-)

Rgds.,

- Dave Keating.
                                              
408.3what? an answer? :-)IJSAPL::ELSENAARThey'll lift you up in their handsFri Sep 23 1988 15:5619
RE -1 (Dave)

>	'Now who said we Irish weren't helpful?' ;-)

Hey Dave this is great. I had already given up hope, but now I feel saved by the
Irish! ;-)

You're absolutely right about her talent. She runs the risk, though, to lose her
voice within five years, for she strains it incredibly. It sounds magnificent,
and dangerous.

So it is bible text. It sounds great; the songs contains a lot. I will most
certainly go and look for the other singer you mentioned.

Ah, by the way. Clannad I already know and enjoy. Another Irishman helped me
with that!
You know: I won't go into detail, but I had a totally different idea about
Irishman ;^) ;-)