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Title: | Celt Notefile |
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Moderator: | TALLIS::DARCY |
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Created: | Wed Feb 19 1986 |
Last Modified: | Tue Jun 03 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1632 |
Total number of notes: | 20523 |
399.0. "US Govt: Lackey of the brits." by BRAT::DROTTER () Fri Jun 24 1988 10:45
IRA FUGITIVE CASE A CAUSE CELEBRE
Peter Lucas
(Reprinted from the Boston Herald 6/17/88)
NEW YORK - Joe Doherty, 33, of Belfast, Northern Ireland, has been in
federal prison for five years now on a misdemeanor charge -- entering the
United States without a passport.
Some drug pushers and killers have served less time in U.S.
prisons, but for Doherty there is no light at the end of the tunnel. It
seems that the Reagan administration and Attorney General Edwin Meese are
determined to please British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher by sending
Doherty back to Belfast -- where he is wanted on murder charges --
despite the fact that U.S. courts have ruled Doherty should not be
returned because his offense was political in nature.
Meese, seeking a loophole, simply has ignored the findings of the
courts and insists that Doherty be deported.
For Doherty, an Irish Republican Army fugitive, who will appeal
the ruling, it is all the same because back in merry old England he faces
a sentence of 30 years for killing a British Army captain in a shootout.
I was visiting Doherty in the federal Metropolitan Correctional
Center in Lower Manhattan just after he received word of the Meese
decision.
"I'm not surprised," Doherty said, "because he (Meese) has held
these court decisions in contempt. He has totally ignored what the
courts have said.
"If the Soviet Union were in control of Northern Ireland instead
of the British, I wouldn't be in prison. I would be in the Oval Office
giving advice to the president," Doherty said.
In 1980, Doherty, a member of the IRA's Active Service Unit, got
into a gun battle with a unit of civilian-dressed British soldiers
attached to the dreaded SAS (Special Air Service), the same
counter-insurgency unit that killed the three unarmed IRA agents in
Gibralter recently. In that Belfast shootout a British soldier was
killed. Doherty and his IRA companions were captured, tried and
convicted in a "Diplock" court, which is a trial before a judge with no
jury.
Before his trial ended, Doherty and seven others escaped from the
Crumlin Road Jail. All were captured except Doherty, who made his way
south to the Republic of Ireland and then to New York City. Two days
after his escape the court, with Doherty absent, convicted him of murder
and other crimes and sentenced him to life imprisonment.
Doherty worked construction for a while and then tended bar at
Clancy's Bar in New York's East Side. It was there that FBI agents
dressed as construction workers picked him up June 18, 1983, for entering
the country illegally, and it is on that misdemeanor charge that he has
been held ever since.
Since the federal courts ruled against Doherty's extradition
because his offense was "political," and because the decision was upheld,
the Reagan administration moved against him legislatively. The Senate
approved a new British-proposed treaty eliminating the "political
offense" exception to extradition proceedings, and it made the treaty
retroactive so it now applies to Doherty.
Both Senators Edward M. Kennedy and John F. Kerry voted for the
treaty. "But he stuck the knife in my twice," Doherty said of Kennedy,
because a vote for the treaty was also a vote for making it retroactive.
Kerry opposed retroactivity in committee.
Rather than continue the extradition battle here, Doherty sought
to be deported to the Republic of Ireland and fight it there. An
immigration judge ruled in his favor. But the Immigration Service
objected and appealed, claiming it was prejudicial to the country's
national interest to deport Doherty to Ireland.
Last March, the Board of Immigration Appeals ruled in Doherty's
favor and against the INS, saying that he should be deported to the
Republic of Ireland and not to the United Kingdom's province of Northern
Ireland. Then, by law, the case went to Meese, the man who lost
throughout the judicial and regulatory proceedings. He ruled that
Doherty be deported to Northern Ireland.
"The whole thing has brought the Justice Department to a new
low," Doherty said. "By this decision, the loser at the end of the day
is not Joe Doherty. I'm prepared to spend another 40 years in prison
fighting for our cause. The losers are the American people because their
Constitution has been trampled upon."
"Reagan and Meese are saying that the IRA has got to be crushed,"
he said. "We are not terrorists. We did not attack civilians, but armed
British troops. And I am a soldier of the IRA. This is a war."
"After 800 years of British occupation of my country, we have the
right, the moral right, to take up arms for my country."
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399.1 | MOVING GOALPOSTS AGAIN | AYOV11::EBYRNE | | Tue Jun 28 1988 09:05 | 18 |
| THE AMERICAN SHOULD CERTAINLY LOOK TO THEIR GOVERNMENTS DEALINGS
WITH GREAT BRITIAN. MAKING LAWS RETROACTIVE IS A SPECIALITY OF THEIRS
TO BE USED WHENEVER CONVENIANT.
THEY SHOULD ALSO BEAR IN MIND THE FACT THAT THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT
HAS BEEN FOUND GULTY OF TORTURE BY THE EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS.
THE LATEST ITEM TO COME UP IS THAT AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL HAS
RELEASED A REPORT ON THE SHOOT TO KILL QUESTION. THEY SAID ON IRISH
RADIO THAT THEY HAD GRAVE REVERSATIONS AS TO WHETHER THE BRITISH
GOVERNMENT ARE BEING TRUTHFUL IN THEIR ASSERTATIONS THAT THEY HAVE
NO SHOOT TO KILL POLICY.
THE REASON FOR DOUBT IS CAUSED BY STALKER BEING STOPPED FROM
INVESTIGATING THE ALLEGATIONS (IN A VERY NASTY WAY), THE REFUSAL
TO PUBLISH THE REPORT, THE REFUSAL TO PROSECUTE THOSE WHO PERVERTED
THE COURSE OF JUSTICE (IN THEIR OWN WORDS).
FOR THIS AMNESTY WAS ACCUSED OF PREJUDGING THE RESULTS OF A
POLICE INQUIRY THE RESULTS OF WHICH WILL OF COURSE NOT BE MADE PUBLIC
THAT IS IF THEY EVER GET A RESULT (THE INQUIRY HAS BEEN IN PROGRESS
FOR 5� YEARS NOW. NEED I SAY MORE.
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399.2 | Justified killings? | DUB01::POCONNELL | | Wed Jun 29 1988 06:41 | 4 |
| ....."We did not attack civilians."...
The victims of the Enniskillen, Harrods, Abercorn Restaurant and
school bus in Co. Fermanagh attacks might dispute this.
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399.3 | SAS shoot-out | DUB01::OSULLIVAN_D | | Wed Jun 29 1988 13:30 | 8 |
| re: .2 <re: .0>
Pat
I think Joe Doherty was referring to the shoot-out with the SAS
and not the other incidents which you mention.
-Dermot
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399.4 | JUSTICE?? | AYOV11::EBYRNE | | Thu Jun 30 1988 06:03 | 14 |
| RE .2
THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT AMERICAS REACTION TO MAGGI
THIS OBVIOUSLY MEANS THE BRITISH "JUSTICE" SYSTEM. TO DEMONSTRATE
THAT ITS NOT JUST THE IRISH WHO SUFFER CONSIDER THE GENETIC TESTS
NOW USED IN COURTS. THESE CAN NOW BE TAKEN BY FORCE IN N.I.
THE TEST IS CONSIDERED ACCURATE ENOUGH FOR MURDER OR TERRORIST CRIMES
NO ARGUMENT THERE BUT IN THE CASE OF IMMIGRATION TO G.B. WHERE PEOPLE
FROM THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT ARE TRYING TO PROVE A RELATIONSHIP
THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT HAS DECLARED THAT GENETIC TESTING IS NOT
ACCURATE ENOUGH TO BE USED AS EVIDENCE.
IS THAT A MOVING GOALPOST OR NOT
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399.5 | Sloganising? | DUB01::POCONNELL | | Thu Jun 30 1988 06:53 | 30 |
| re .3
Dermot
Yes I take your point and agree that there is massive doublethink
on the part of the British (and dare I say it the Americans!) when
it comes to "legit targets". The point that I was making was that
there is equal fuzzy thinking on the Provo side. By no stretch
of the imagination can protestant farmers in Fermanagh be considered
part of the British War Machine and yet it is hard to avoid the
conclusion that a very primitive land grabbing campaign is behind
much of what happens there. The provos would no doubt justify this
on the grounds of rectifying the injustices of the 16th and 17th
century plantations. -- Give back all land to the Fir Bolg ---!!!
The attitude in the U.S to this Hesbullah in Lebanon and the Mujihadin
in Afghanistan are examples of 'subtle distinctions' on terrorism.
re .4
I agree 100%. However (there always is a "however"), in my limited
experience the presentation of complex and non black and white issues
in the U.S. media is less than remarkable. (There are notable
exceptions).
Also, and I say this hesitantly, we have an enormous number of people
in this country (Ireland) who use slogans as a thought substitute;
I wonder whether the some of human understanding by a chorus of
equally profound slogans (ironic!) from the Irish diaspora.
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399.6 | Typo | DUB01::POCONNELL | | Thu Jun 30 1988 06:57 | 4 |
| last para should read : .... sum of human understanding is increased..
sorry, my slogans ran ahead of my two fingered typing!
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