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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

356.0. "Celtic Names for non-Celts" by WOOK::LEE (Wook... Like 'Book' with a 'W') Wed Mar 30 1988 18:38

    Would it be possible for someone to come up with an equivalent name in
    any Celtic language for the name "Wook".  I put a casual request in my
    intro note in 1.71, but I doubt anyone took me seriously. So anyway,
    I'll try again and see what happens.  "Wook" is a Korean name that can
    mean "elegant" or "intricate patterns" or "colorful designs".  "Lee" is
    the most common surname in Korean and means "plum tree".  
    
    If any of my fellow Celtic noters with expertise in their native tongue
    could help me out, I'd really appreciate it. So far, having taken
    French and Spanish (just a little) in school, I still have yet to find
    an acceptable equivalent. (In french class they called me Robert and
    Victor, and in spanish in the 7th grade I was called Paco!)  Snake?
    Ren�?  Any ideas?  I won't really be disappointed if you can't.
    
    Wook (no_I'm_not_Irish) Lee (aka. Elegant Plum Tree)
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356.1any other attempts?TALLIS::DARCYGeorge Darcy, Advanced VAX DevelopmentWed Mar 30 1988 20:465
    I feel like I'm baptizing someone, but maise means elegance,
    (it also means indeed).  Pronounced it as <mush' a>, leave
    out the New York "u" though.  I'd keep your "Gaelicized" last name.
    
    Maise O'Laoi
356.2Speaking of names. . .AKOV11::KINGGeorge Orwell was an Optimist!Thu Mar 31 1988 04:488
    Could someone please include a list of names in Gaelic?
    
    (I run a role-playing campaing set in the british isles and would
    love to use authentic names.
    
    Thanx in advance
    Bob K.
    
356.3Its a topsy turvey world.EGAV01::MHUGHESThu Mar 31 1988 05:5724
    Leaprechauns don't want to dissappoint.
    
    Lee is a common Irish surname with different roots than your Wook
    (pun intended).
    
    Laoi (properly pronounced luy-ee) its other Gaelic meaning is calf
    as in cow progeny, and not as in the muscles at the back of your
    legs.
    I think there is a connection with a sad tune also or lament.
    
    I do not know the gaelic for plum (but I might be able to find
    out).
    Crann is the gaelic for tree (pronounced cronn).
    George is correct as far as maise is concerned but its pronounced
    mosh-eh.
    
    Its the construction however that would screw it up.
    In gaelic the adjective (maishe - elegant) would have to come
    after the noun (plum tree) which would have the effect of reversing
    your name.
    
    Snake will ask the question if I see one of my neighbours, Oh! tree
    plum elegant.
    
356.4The Irish call me MaiseWOOK::LEEWook... Like &#039;Book&#039; with a &#039;W&#039;Fri Apr 01 1988 18:0420
    Hey, guys, thanks.  Let's see if I can give you a little more
    flexibility as far as my last name goes.  The chinese character
    for "Lee" is made up of two characters, one meaning "tree" and the
    onther meaning "son" or "child" so, O'Crann or Mac'Crann would be
    appropriate.
    
    I might add that in the orient, the typical name order is surname
    followed by given name.  My name is Lee Wook to most Koreans,
    (actually, a Korean would pronounce it Yi Ook [go easy on the "Y"]).
    
    The way I look at it, I should either go with all phonetic equivalents,
    ie. O'Laoi with an appropriate phonetic equivalent for "Wook", or
    else meaning equivalents, namely (pun intended) Maise O'Crann or
    Mac'Crann (is there a preference?)  Is there a name that might fit
    better with the meaning "intricate pattern" or "colorful design"?
    
    I really appreciate the time you folk are taking on this.  Names
    have always fascinated me, so this is great.
    
    Wook (or Maise Mac'Crann [my preference so far])
356.5We are getting there.GAOV08::MHUGHESTue Apr 05 1988 06:218
    Leaprechauns did not evolve.
    
    re .4
    McCrann is an Irish surname (plenty in the phone book), and it could
    mean "of the tree".
    
    Snake sees the evolution of a name.
    
356.62HOT::KROBINSONIcon do windows.Fri Apr 08 1988 14:1210
    A Gaelic word that means calf and lament. (From the lowing of the
    animals, perhaps?  Or, more likely, some poor soul who died in a cattle
    raid?)
    
    A Korean word that means "Elegant" with connotations of "intricate
    patterns". (Wow!)
    
    Gee, I wish I was better with languages!  Thank you for enriching
    my knowledge.
    					kathy