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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

323.0. "JUSTICE MISCARRIED - BIRMINGHAM SIX APPEAL." by GAOV07::MHUGHES (dean corp-trialladh don banrion) Thu Jan 28 1988 12:17

    Learechauns are angry.
    
    The appeal of the Birmingham six has been lost.(12 noon EST)
    The Sampson-Stalker report has been supressed.
    
    The Irish people are utterly disgusted at the British government
    and its establishment.
    Support for the IRA will be increased.
    
    The Anglo-Irish agreement is under very serious threat.
    
    Snake is sick to death of the price the Irish pay for British
    involvement on our island.
    
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323.1TPVAX3::CULBERTFree Michael CulbertThu Jan 28 1988 13:0614
    And some of us in the States are angry also.
    
    This outcome simply makes no sence to me.  I've read about this
    case and in my wildest dreams never imagined the British Court 
    would be able uphold the original verdict.  The evidence seemed
    so much in support of an innocent ruling.  In my estimation the
    legal system that has accomplished this miccarrige really needs
    to be looked at.
    
    To bad we'll never get the real story!!!!!!!
    
    My prayers will include these unfortunate people and there families
    
    paddy
323.2Me tooWELSWS::MANNIONThis land ain't _her_ landFri Jan 29 1988 05:5316
    You're not the only ones; there are many people on the East of the
    Irish Sea who are dismayed at this - we can only hope they are given
    leave to appeal to the House of Lords, where in fact they probably
    would get equally rough justice, but there is a chance...
    
    The MP who wrote a book about these men (whose name I forget) says
    he knows who did carry out this atrocity (and I hope that all of
    you who are indignant at the injustice of the verdict are also appalled
    by the original murders), but that revealing those names to the
    police would not help the men in gaol - for in the case of the
    Guildford bombers, the police simply upped the number to seven involved
    when the guilty were arrested, the innocent stay in gaol too.
    
    Makes you sick, eh?
    
    Phillip
323.3Appalled.USAT03::MICHAELIrish Wench conaighFri Jan 29 1988 09:417
    Jaysus, snake, what did ye expect.!  As long as there are people
    there is prejudice.  I can't see that we'll be getting any fair
    treatment by the Brits until we become a Country of our own.
    
    It also appears the solicitors were not working very hard.
    
    the "wench" sees no end.
323.4"There are NO words to explain how I feel ..STEREO::BURNSFri Jan 29 1988 15:0712
    
    
    	There is a another discussion about this issue
    	being conducted in the EURO_FORUM notesfile.
             
    	notes> add entry ritz::euro_forum
    
    	see note 231.* (72 replies last time I looked)    
    
    	I am only adding this as a further pointer to on-going
    	discussions. I am NOT trying to shift the discussion to another
    	notefile....
323.5Demand for once>STOPIT::DOWNEYMon Feb 01 1988 05:4419
    I have been closely following the case of the Birmingham "bombers".
    I also read Chris Mullen's account of the events. Did we really
    expect British "justice" to accept that these men are innocent.
    To do so means openly admitting that the police force involved in
    the arrest, some now high ranking officers, forced confessions from
    these men. The sad thing is that I live here in England and there
    is an unbelievable amount of apathy towards what happened among
    a lot of people.
    
    It is now up to all Irish people and particularly the Irish Government
    to bring this case to world attention. Only then can we expect the
    British Government to listen. If they are quick to shout at America,
    France and Germany for giving in to terrorist demands, then the
    Irish government should not give in to this form of British terrorism.
    
    I only hope that the IRA does not benefit from this miscarriage
    of justice.
    
    Teresa.
323.6Let them out!DUB01::OSULLIVAN_DGall gan ceart ach neartWed Feb 03 1988 05:529
    

    It now looks as if only political pressure will force the release
    of these innocent men.  I would dearly like to see a lobby building
    up in the U.S. in support of the political prisoners who have become
    the victims of British expediency.
    
    -Dermot