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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

279.0. "Clannad recordings" by XCELR8::KING (MRO2-LA/M54 DTN 297-6026) Wed Oct 07 1987 02:51

                                        
    
       I'm looking for some recordings by Clannad.  I have had some
    difficulty in locating some in the Boston and Nashua area.  I would
    like to collect all of their recordings.  To date I have Macalla
    and Magical Ring.  I've tried the Irish Cottage for tapes.  That's
    where I got Magical Ring.  Does anybody have any ideas? 
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279.1Let you fingers do the walking ..ENGGSG::BURNSDrink not to forget, but to rememberWed Oct 07 1987 11:3916
    
    
    	You might want to call :
    
    
    	House of Ireland - 17 Cresent St Waltham   899-7747
    
    	Emerald Isle	 - Drum Hill Road Lowell   452-1614
    
    	Irish Jaunting Car - 89 Broadway Lawrence  683-9007
    
    	
    
    
    	keVin
    
279.2Thank youXCELR8::KINGMRO2-LA/M54 DTN 297-6026Thu Oct 08 1987 02:067
    
    
    Thanks Kevin,  I'll give those places a call and see what they have.
    
    Much appreciated,
    
    Bryan
279.3Mysterious Clannad member ?BRS01::DOMSTue Oct 27 1987 12:2915
	I want to take the opportunity to abuse this note for a different
	Clannad-related question.
	On their album "Fuaim", there is an additional member of the 
	group, namely Eithne Ni Bhrennan.  She doesn't appear on any
	other albums (that I know of.)  recently however, there was a
	television series on the Celts, on BBC.  Its soundtrack was com-
	posed and performed by a lady who calls herself Enya.  the style of
	the music is actually a kind of cross between Clannad and Vange-
	lis, and it was also mentioned that the girl came from county
	Donegal (like the Clannad musicians.)
	I was just wondering if Enya and Eithne Ni Bhrennan are perhaps
	the same person, and if other albums of one/the other/both exist.
	
								Leo.
279.4"a bit further afield"RUNWAY::FARRINGTONWed Oct 28 1987 06:5510
     You might try the "Keshcarrigan Bookshop", which is located on
    West Broadway, N.Y.C. It is an extremely fine shop, well thought
    of on both sides of the 'pond'. The owner, Angela Carter, is an
    exceptionally helpful aide, a vigorous advocate of the language,
    and perhaps, in this case, stocks the entire "CLANNAD" inventory.
    She does do mailings, and is an excellent source for any other
    inquires you might have. Best of luck.
    
    Slan,
    Kevin.
279.5addressTALLIS::DARCYBugs are goodWed Oct 28 1987 10:071
Keshcarrigan Book Shop	90 W. Broadway NY NY 10007, (212) 962-4237
279.6RGB::SEILERLarry SeilerThu Nov 05 1987 16:1912
Sandy's Music carries Clannad - also a nice variety of other Irish &
British Isles artists.  It's a small shop on Mass Ave in Cambridge (USA),
between Central Square and Harvard Square.  This is also a good place to 
go for tickets to folk music events in the Boston area.

I have Clannad and Clannad 2, and love them.  I also have a later record
of theirs (I forget which) that I don't like as well, although it is
still good.  Sandy will sometimes play a record for you before you buy
it, too, since this is the sort of music that he plays in his shop.

	Enjoy,
	Larry
279.7I think Paddy Noonan owns Rego Records ??STEREO::BURNSPoguetry in MotionMon Nov 09 1987 09:4113
    
    
    
    	I just received the new "Rego Records" Christmas ad.
    
    	They also carry all the Clannad records/tapes.
    
    
    	Rego Irish Records & Tapes, Inc.
    	64 New Hyde Park Road
    	Garden City, N.Y. 11530                 
    	1-800-854-3746                                                  
    
279.8Overheard in a music store...RGB::SEILERLarry SeilerFri Dec 11 1987 17:5329
I heard an interesting rumor yesterday.  A concert promoter was chatting
with the owner of a music store, and she said that Clannad had never
toured the US and never would.  It seems a friend of hers who is also a
concert promoter had arranged a US tour for them, putting out $25K of
her own money.  10 days before the tour was to have started, Clannad
cancelled, and toured Europe instead.  The friend was never reimbursed,
and has no way to get her money back except to serve them a writ if
they ever enter the US - so they will continue to stay away.

Two inter-related reasons were advanced for this boorish behavior on
the part of Clannad.  First, a newly released record had hit big in
Europe, and they wanted to cash in on it.  Second, whether they wanted
to our not, some of their promoters insisted - an offer they could not
refuse.  The music store owner asked if that meant that they were involved 
with the IRA.  The answer was, "all big record deals out of Dublin are 
involved with the IRA."  

If the IRA really has that great a, shall we say, "influence" over the
Irish music industry, it is surely known to more than just the performers
involved.  Does anyone care to confirm or deny this rumor?  Please don't
make comments on other things the IRA does or does not do - there are a 
number of other notes where such debates have been raised.  I merely want
to know if they control the music industry to the extent that, if they
told a group to play or not play somewhere, they would pretty well be
compelled to obey.  Alternately, is Clannad likely to have left a concert
promoter hanging out to dry off their own bat?

	Thanks,
	Larry
279.9If you can't lose it...don't play the gameFXADM::OCONNELLIrish by NameTue Dec 15 1987 20:3937
    To my knowledge, and I know two heavily recorded popular artists
    that record in Dublin, the rumor that the IRA have anything to do
    with Irish artists and where they perform or tour is ludicrous!
    The case for Clannad is more likely to be that the promoter over
    here didn't put together a tour that assured the group of being
    able to go home with any money.  This has been a fairly common
    occurance for the larger groups.  Dolores Keane and John Faulkner
    actually lost money on one tour, even though they were pretty well
    booked.  Many of these "promoters" (and I know a fair lot of them
    as well!) do not provide accomodations or transportation arrangements,
    and if they do, they are inadequate.  You should hear some of the
    gripe sessions that go on after some of the festivals I've been
    to.  And the gripes are legitimate.  Many promoters take advantage,
    perhaps sometimes unintentionally, of the lack of expertize these
    artists have (or don't have) on getting around in the States.  I'll
    get off my soapbox now, but let me say this...If Clannad chose to
    go to Europe (and I'm not saying they did) instead of coming here,
    it's most likely because they had a much better financial outlook
    coming out of the European tour than they would have here.  And
    as for the promoter...the facts of life are if you can't afford
    to lose the money you put up, you don't belong in concert promotion.
     Ask any one who does it for a living.  (Most folk promoters don't
    and many don't know how to promote to be successful enough to do
    it for a living.)
    
    Now I'm sure I'm going to hear from a whole bunch of people who
    have met or know a bunch of good hearted, sweet people who have
    put on folk concerts or run folk clubs.  I'm not talking about the
    small stuff.  I'm talking about the promotion required to bring
    a top group like Clannad over here, book a large volume tour, that
    guarantees 75% occupancy for every concert, and provides the promo
    material, coverage, accomodations, travel, and a minimum profit
    for the group that makes it financially possible for them to come
    back.  If we want to see them in the States, that's what it'll take
    because that's what the European promoters can offer them.
    
    Roxanne
279.10Clannad and EnyaGAOV08::JMAGUIREFri Dec 18 1987 04:2516
    Referring to item 3:
    
    Yes Leo, you are correct. Eithne N� Bhraonain and Enya are one and
    the same. She is the younger sister of Ciaran, P�l and Maire, the
    niece of Noel and Padraig, the members of Clannad. Fuaim is the only
    album on which she played with the rest of the family, leaving soon
    afterwards because she didn't like the direction their music was
    taking. So far "Music from the Celts" is the only album she has
    released.
    
    I was just skimming through this topic and I noticed somebody
    mentioning a Clannad tour of America. They have released a new album,
    "Sirius", after the Greenpeace ship of the same name. It was produced
    by Greg Lidani, recorded in Wales and Los Angeles, and features
    people like Bruce Hornsby. As it is very much aimed at the American
    market, doubtless they will visit those shores at some stage.
279.11willow warbler.GAOV07::MHUGHESdean corp-trialladh don banrionTue Dec 22 1987 09:3715
    Leaprechauns don't wonder.
    
    re the $25k for the no-show.
    
    I know sweet F.A. about the music industry, but two things spring
    to mind immediately. 
     1. Is $25k enough to put up to get a big name like Clannad to 
        do a tour ???????
     2. Unless Clannad don't ever want to go to the US, (and I doubt
        that), surely their earning potential would make $25k look
        like pin money -- so why blot their copybook for small
         potatoes ??????
    
    Snake sings when he is well oiled.
    
279.12Someone's inflating the numbersFXADM::OCONNELLIrish by NameTue Dec 22 1987 10:4018
    Snake...
    
    I looked into this more closely, and Robbie and I agree that it's
    highly unlikely that anyone dropped $25K as an advance against a
    tour in the Northeast for Clannad.  $2.5K would have been more like,
    and we have a fair suspicion who the "promoter" was (she's not a
    promoter but a concert producer), and she's well known for crying
    "poor mouth".  
    
    What's key to this is that people understand that when an artist
    signs with a recording company, and I think the company in this
    case was RCA, they have a contractual obligation to do promotional
    tours that have been set up by that company.  In other words, if
    you want to see Clannad over here, contact the company they record
    for and indicate to them the level of interest for seeing Clannad.
    If there's enough interest, they'll respond quick enough.
    
    Roxanne
279.13I'll promote your next U.S.A. Tour ...STEREO::BURNSBritannia Waives The RulesTue Dec 22 1987 19:1018
    
    
    	re .11	     Does F.A. = Financial Agent    ??

                          
    
    
    
    
    
    
    			I didn't think so  .....	:=)
    
    
    
    	
    
    keVin
279.14Tours and TV ShowsRGB::SEILERLarry SeilerMon Jan 11 1988 15:2912
Thanks, all - it's been informative.  I'm especially glad of the low
level of heat in the responses.  Maybe someday I'll pass this info
on and give that music store owner something to think about.

Speaking of Clannad, though, there is a TV show playing in the Boston
area for which they did the theme and background music.  It's a very 
nicely done weekly serial called "Robin Hood" - produced by HTV (a British 
TV co.) in 1983.  I wonder how long it went on in Great Britain - or
is it still being made?  

	Enjoy,
	Larry
279.15AYOV12::ASCOTTAlan Scott, FMIC, Ayr, ScotlandTue Jan 19 1988 12:414
    Think the "Robin Hood" series was a one-off, with high "production
    values" (budget, photography, music) made by HTV for the start of
    Channel 4.   There was a very attractive/sexy Maid Marian, as I
    remember...
279.16Movie theme that appears in Magical RingXCELR8::KINGMRO2-LA/M54 DTN 297-6026Thu Jan 21 1988 01:4014
    There was a show on television a couple of years ago, on network
    television as a matter of fact that Clannad had written and recorded
    the theme song to.  Its on the Magical Ring album but at the moment
    the name of the movie eludes me.  It was a story about an IRA asassin
    in Derry.   My parents recorded the show on VHS tape too...
    Its a sad but sweet sounding song.  Maire's voice just seems to be able
    to cut through thick fog with that sweet and eery sounding voice.
      An afterthought:  I saw a review in The Wall Street Journal
    in 85 about Clannad's Macalla.  They liked it and so I went out
    and bought it.
    
    Bryan
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279.17"Name that Tune"RUNWAY::FARRINGTONTIOCFAIDH AR LAThu Jan 21 1988 09:138
         The name of the programme, taken from ITV I believe, was HARRY'S
    GAME.  I recall seeing it listed, and in some local shops on VHS
    tape, as BELFAST ASSASIN. The title song was also available in a
    12 inch ELP format.  Additionally, you might remmember that U2 used
    the tune as an openning and closing theme for several of their tours.
    
    slan,
    Kevin 
279.18re 279.16GAOV08::DMCCONVILLEThu Jan 21 1988 15:174
    The film Harry's Game as far as I can remember is based around a
    book of the same name by Gerard Seymour and the assassin was in
    fact an undercover British soldier.
    Dee
279.19Re 279.15GAOV08::DMCCONVILLEThu Jan 21 1988 15:286
    There were two "Robin Hood" series made by HTV. The first featured
    Michael Praed ( who then went on to greater (??) things as a Prince
    or Royal of some sort in Dynasty ) and the second had Jason Connery
    (son of Sean Connery - he of the James Bond fame) play the lead
    role. Both series lasted about 12 or so programmes.
    Dee
279.20UGOTIT::KRAWIECKIGod > than any problem I haveThu Feb 11 1988 11:4123
    
       
      The following is from my daughter after she read all the replies
    up to date.

    
    RE: .14,.15,.19
    
    
        I read the "Robin of Sherwood" series and saw it on tape and
    immediately fell in love with it. I also fell in love with the Clannad
    sound track (I assume she means the sound track of the video episodes.
    We didn't see them on regular TV but rented tapes from our local
    rental store. Dad). So. recently I have taken up a quest to find
    out if the music is on tape, and if so, where I can get it. So far
    my search has been fruitless. Any help would be immensely appreciated.
    
      Also, does anyone have any idea where I could write Michael Praed
    (Robin Hood #1)? Thanks.
    
    
                                          Jennifer Krawiecki
    
279.21AKOV11::BOYAJIANBe nice or be dogfoodSat Mar 12 1988 04:2916
    re:.20
    
    Clannad released one album of music from the Robin Hood show,
    titled LEGEND. It's available on CD as well. Where to find a
    copy is difficult to say, since it's available in the US only
    as an import.
    
    Those hardcore fans of Clannad may want to know about another
    album of theirs that sort of came out of nowhere. I've only seen
    it on CD, so I don't know if it's available on any other medium.
    It's called RING OF GOLD, and it's a second concert album. With
    the exception of "Down by the Sally Gardens" and "Nil S'en La",
    there's no overlap with what's on CLANNAD IN CONCERT. The material
    on RING OF GOLD appears to be mostly from CLANNAD 2 and DULAMAN.
    
    --- jerry
279.22I really like ClannadWOOK::LEEWook... Like 'Book' with a 'W'Tue Mar 22 1988 19:323
    I have Macalla in vinyl and Legen and Collection in CD.
    
    Wook
279.23AKOV11::BOYAJIANMonsters from the IdTue May 10 1988 05:436
    re: a few previous notes
    
    As mentioned in 375.0, Clannad is indeed touring on this side of
    the Pond.
    
    --- jerry
279.24SiriusXCUSME::KINGGive me a ChallengeFri Jul 29 1988 22:127
    Here it is late July and I just got a copy of Clannad Sirius.  Its
    a great album!  I recommend it to any Clannad fan who does not yet
    have a copy.  It has a more "modern" sound to it.  I'd say they
    have changed the direction of their music over the years.  But I'm
    not a music critic and will leave at that.
    
    Bryan
279.25MaireLJOHUB::HORGANCraicailte indiadh damhsaMon Sep 28 1992 18:176
    I just bought Maire Brennan's new solo cd.  It's great.  
    Any Clannad or Enya fan will enjoy it.  Make sure you don't
    have the base turned up too high or things will start to fall 
    off your walls.
    
    Julie
279.26...mar ta do mharaige deanta....CSLALL::KSULLIVANThu Oct 01 1992 12:3815
    Sorry, but mediocre is the description I'd have to use. Her voice, as
    always, is fine.....but the accompaniment is sadly lacking. Every empty
    space is filled with keyboards and she really got carried away with the
    backing harmonies, which are repetitive and unimaginative. Maybe they
    were out to capture part of the Enya/New Age audience....but this does
    not work very well. 
    
    Clannad's "Anam" is somewhat similar but much better (at least in 
    comparison to their more recent efforts). Their earlier material still
    reigns supreme.
    
    Aaah, that explains all this grey stuff.....
    
                                    M.
       
279.27complete discographyCGVAX2::PRIESTLEYFri Jan 29 1993 16:3915
    Does anyone out there have a truly complete discography for Clannad, I
    thought I had one, but I guess I was wrong, I completely missed "Fuaim"
    and I was unaware of the existence of a Maire Ni' Bhraoinan solo
    recording.  I had seen the "Ring of Gold" CD in a record store in
    Bamberg, Germany, but could not afford to drop the Dm's at the time to
    pick it and the European release of "Anam" and the "Atlantic Realm" cd. 
    The European release of "Anam" is different from the American to my
    knowledge; it does not include "Harry's Game" which was probably
    included to capitalize on the inclusion of the song in the movie
    "Patriot Games", the European release was earlier than the American as
    well, back in April or so of 1991.
    
    Andrew
    
    
279.28Updated noteSIOG::BRENNAN_MDrink Canada dry-when do we startThu Nov 28 1996 05:569