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Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

224.0. "WHERE ARE THE SCOTS?" by ERIC::LARS () Thu Jun 25 1987 09:04

    
    Re. NOTE 221 " I've heard enough Irish Blarney for a while."
    
       Do I detect a note of exasperation in this last sentence?
    Undoubtedly the Irish Celts use this notefile more than the
    Scots. I wonder why.
       I find it hard to believe that there are fewer Scots and 
    their descendants out there than Irish.
       Whilst the Scots have a strong sense of national identity
    I have a feeling that they do not see themselves so much as 
    Celts, or perhaps they're simply indifferent to this aspect of
    their culture. A notesfile named "Celt" may not grab the attention
    of browsing Scots noters.
       Does it take something like the traumas of the Irish struggle
    for independance to develop a stronger sense of racial identity?
       Have the Scots become Anglicised?
       (That should get some reaction!)
    
       I would be interested to hear from the Scots.
    
       Me? I'm of Irish descent.
    
        John Boyle   
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224.1PH6VAX::MCLAUGHLINThu Jun 25 1987 14:1023
       >Do I detect a note of exasperation in this last sentence?
    >Undoubtedly the Irish Celts use this notefile more than the
    >Scots. I wonder why.

Maybe because we're the quiet unassuming types? ;-)

       >Does it take something like the traumas of the Irish struggle
    >for independance to develop a stronger sense of racial identity?

I thought that was going to happen in note 222.  I'm still waiting for a reply
from the original author.  

       >Have the Scots become Anglicised?
       >(That should get some reaction!)

I certainly hope not.
    
       >I would be interested to hear from the Scots.

I'm half Scottish, and half Irish and I would like to hear more from our 
friends on the other side or on this side doesn't matter to me.

	Jack
224.2Another voice heard fromBMT::FIELDSSHEILATue Jun 30 1987 11:2920
    While I'm glad to see some additional dialog about the Scots, I'm
    a little cautious about getting into a row about cultural personality.
    In fact, that's probably why I read (selectively) more than write
    to this conference.
    
    For the record, I've about 90% Scots ancestry - Sinclair, MacDonald,
    MacDougal, Sutherland, MacWhorter - the list goes on....(my mother's
    into genealogy).  The rest of the blood line is a smattering of
    English (Fields) and Irish (Walker).
    
    My interest in this conference is (selfishly) to know more about
    the culture of my family, and I have trouble relating to the
    impassioned political dialog which is so frequently the current
    which runs through this notesfile.  
    
    And lastly, I am more ignorant than I care to admit about "the old
    country" and so seldom have anything constructive to add. I am,
    however, learning a great deal.
    
    S.
224.3Checkin inUSAT03::MICHAELFri Jul 24 1987 17:361
    See note 240.0  this is a recording.
224.4ANOTHER SCOT PIPES UP!XCELR8::HARDYThu Dec 31 1987 08:4219
    
    	Greetings,
    
    	I, too, wonder where the Scots are in this conference...we are
    part of the great Celtic culture and traditions as much, if not
    more, than the Irish, the Welsh, the Britons, etc...and I hope to
    God we have not become "too Anglicized"....
    
    	I am of Scottish, Irish, English, Canadian, and American Indian
    descent, but am particularly proud of my Highlander heritage, which
    includes sept alliance with the Farquaharson and MacKintosh clans...
    
    	I'd love to hear from other Scottish-Americans, and keep us
    all up to date on all the regional cultural activities, etc., such
    as the recent appearances in Boston, Worcester, and Providence of
    the Royal Grenadier Guards and Gordon Highlanders...it was great!
    
    						Dave Hardy
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224.5Forith the TartanCSC32::MA_BAKERWed Apr 06 1988 13:1811
    I am not sure how much if any of my ancestry is Scottish, but I
    wish it were 100%!  I have always been very enamored with the Scottish
    traditions and heritage and etc, and have become more and more involved
    of late in things Scottish (except for all of the Scotty dog
    paraphernalia which is a bit excessive).  Currently I am learning
    the Great Highland Bagpipes, Scottish Country Dancing, and some
    Highland dance steps (primarily for the Fling). 
    So I will speak up as one of the Scots.   Marge
    
    
    
224.6PAKORA::GMITCHELLSiol Nan GaidhealThu Jul 23 1992 14:586
    
    Well speaking as a Scot, the reason I haven't written in this 
    conference before is because I have just discovered it. You'll
    be hearing more from this Scottish Gael anyway. 
    
    Graeme
224.7PAKORA::GMITCHELLSiol Nan GaidhealThu Jul 23 1992 15:0717
    Re 224.4
    
    Hello there,
    
    		I'm afraid to say Scotland is becoming more and more
    'Anglicized' every year. I feel we are being diluted by the English.
    I find it so sick that us Scots through History at school learn more
    about William the Conquerer than the likes of Ancient Scotland and we
    are also often made to feel ashamed of the likes of William Wallace.
    		The fact that the population of Scotland has 20% non
    Scottish born people in it, the bulk of them english also disturbs me
    and many of my friends. I hope things change politically soon so this
    rot can be stopped before it is irreversable.
    		
    	Time to read more notes...
    
    	Graeme
224.8SUPER::DENISEtwuckin'Fri Jul 24 1992 10:457
    
    
    	hear hear!!!
    
    	now let's here from chas!
    
    	;-)
224.9KURMA::GMITCHELLSiol Nan GaidhealFri Jul 24 1992 11:416
    
    Well hello there Denise..
    
    Fancy seeing you here 
    
    Graeme
224.10SUPER::DENISEtwuckin'Fri Jul 24 1992 15:422
    
    	isn't it, though?
224.11POWDML::K_MITCHELLMadness takes its tollFri Jul 24 1992 17:065
   	Well Graeme...it's about time dear cousin.


	kits
224.12FABSIX::I_GOLDIEresident alienThu Jul 27 1995 22:4415
    
    
    here I am!
    
    
    
    whats the question again?
    
    oh...are the Scots becoming "Anglicized" yup a bit but the re-emergence
    of popular Scottish heroes gettting big screen attention from Hollywood
    mayeb it'll stir nationalistic pride and made people get off their
    arses and do something about it.Scotland has waaaay too may 90 minute
    patriots!
    
    					ian