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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

204.0. "Celtic Mythology" by SUCCES::MULDOON (I'll be right back... - Godot) Wed May 27 1987 21:39

    
      Hey Gang,
    
         My appetite has been whetted for some more info on 
    Irish mythology. I'm interested in any information you
    might be able to give on Finn MacCumhal, the Sidhe, the
    Fianna Fiaire (can't seem to spell that right) or any
    other related topics. I know that there must be some
    folk that are learned in the subject.
    
                                               Thanks
    
                                                Steve
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204.1Some references...BRS01::DOMSThu Jun 04 1987 13:4863
	These are references to some very good English translations of
	insular Celtic myths.  These books should be readily available in
	bookshops, and are not expensive. 
	All contain the necessary information, notes and maps to put the
	myths in the context of the civilization that created them.
	The aim of the translators was to stick as close as possible to
	the original texts, modifying them only when these become very 
	ambiguous, or contradictory.  In this case, the necessary foot-
	notes are included, that explain what was done and why.

	In each of these books you 'll also find a number of other references
	to works on Celtic mythology.
    	So here they are:

	1) The T�in, T. Kinsella, The Dolmen Press, Dublin 1969.

	 -> The Cattle Raid of Cooley, based mainly on the version
	    of the Book of The Dun Cow and the Yellow Book of Lecan, with
	    some additions from the Book of Leinster.

	2) Early Irish Myths and Sagas, Penguin Books, 1981
	   translated by Jeffrey Gantz

	 -> From the series of Penguin Classics.  It contains the following
	    tales from the Ulster cycle:

		The Wooing of �ta�n
		The Destruction of Da Derga's Hostel
		The Dream of �engus
		The Cattle Raid of Fr�ech
		The labour Pains of the Ulaid & The Twins of Macha
		The Birth of C� Chulaind
		The Boyhood Deeds of C� Chulaind
		The Death of A�fe's Only Son
		The Tale of Macc Da Th�'s Pig
		The Intoxication of the Ulaid
		Bricriu's Feast
		The Exile of the Sons of Uisliu

	3) The Mabinogion, Penguin Books, 1976
	   translated by Jeffrey Gantz

	 -> The Welsh myths from the Red Book of Hergest, also in the Penguin
	    Classics series.

	4) The Larousse Encyclopedia of mythology gives a general description
	   of the Celtic mythology, both on the continent and on the British
	   Isles.

-- And now a question from my side :

	I know of one translation of the Book of Invasions of Ireland:
	"Lebor Gab�la �renn, five volumes, translated and edited by
	 R.A.S. Macalister, Dublin, Irish Texts Society, 1938-1954"
	This seems not to be obtainable anymore.  I know they have
	it in the library of the University of Antwerp, (That's were I 
	live BTW)
	but I 'd prefer to own a copy to be able to read it at ease.  
	Does anyone know of other translations ? (Either in English, French 
	or German )
								Thanks.

    								  Leo.
204.2many thanksSUCCES::MULDOONI'll be right back... - GodotThu Jun 04 1987 13:579
    
        I'm sorry I can't help you with the translation that you're
    looking for, but I do appreciate the sources that you've mentioned.
    When I go looking for the books that you listed I'll find out what I
    can about the text you're searching for.
    
        Thanks again.
    
                                                       Steve
204.3retellings of myths and legendsVAXWRK::TCHENWed Jun 24 1987 10:4117
    Some rather readable re-tellings of Irish mythology and legends
    have been recently reprinted (beat that, Agnew :-):
    
    Gods and Fighting Men, The Story of the Tuatha De Danaan and of
    the Fianna of Ireland. (myths of the previous rulers of Ireland
    who went underground at their defeat and the Fionn McCumhal cycle)
    
    Cuchulain (hero of the Ulster cycle; I prefer the previous book
    since this tale was created for the nobility)
    
    - both are by Augusta Gregory, Macmillan of Canada
    
    
    Irish Fairy Tales (enjoyable tales spanning a story of the settlements
    of Ireland to an incarnation of Fionn McCumhal)
    
    - James Stevens, Macmillan Co.