[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference tallis::celt

Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

139.0. "Celtic Music Instruments" by TALLIS::DARCY (George @Littleton Mass USA) Fri Feb 20 1987 17:12

From:	ROLL::USENET  "USENET Newsgroup Distributor  18-Feb-1987 2218" 18-FEB-1987 22:23
To:	@[.soc.culture.celtic]NEWS.DIS
Subj:	USENET soc.culture.celtic newsgroup articles

Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Path: decwrl!hplabs!gatech!akgua!akguc!dlp
Subject: Re: Pipes
Posted: 16 Feb 87 17:44:52 GMT
Organization: AT&T Technologies/Bell Labs, Atlanta
 
For hard to find musical instruments also check the "Early Music Shop"
2010 Fouteenth St., Boulder Co., 80302 ph (303) 499-1301.
 
In addition to some hard to find early instruments they also have
bodhrans, highland pipes, chanters, and uillien (sp! but its pronounced
ellen) pipes of Ireland.  I've been to the shop and I've
also bought by mail.  Prices are reasonable and service and customer
satisfaction is  great.  They also have a good selection of tin whistle
music, instruction tapes, whistles etc.
 
Dan Philen
akguc!dlp  atlanta, ga
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
139.1TSC01::MAILLARDMon Feb 23 1987 02:244
    Re .0: Is this 'Early Music Shop' in any way related to the one
    of the same name in Baker Street, London, G.-B.? This one too offers
    quite a lot of medieval and Irish instruments.
    			Denis.
139.2TALLIS::DARCYGeorge @Littleton Mass USAWed Feb 25 1987 00:3527
From:	ASHBY::USENET  "USENET Newsgroup Distributor  24-Feb-1987 2200" 24-FEB-1987 22:03
To:	@[.soc.culture.celtic]NEWS.DIS
Subj:	USENET soc.culture.celtic newsgroup articles

Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Path: decwrl!pyramid!prls!philabs!briar!dml
Subject: Re: Pipes
Posted: 23 Feb 87 14:01:55 GMT
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
 
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Lindsay F. Marshall) writes:
> In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (dlp) writes:
> >.... and uillien (sp! but its pronounced ellen) pipes of Ireland.
>                                           !!!!!
> 
> Not round here its not!!!!
> 
> Lindsay
 
But isn't your local version of the Uilleann pipes called "Northumbrian
pipes"? I'm Irish and have been playing the Uilleann pipes for some time
and have never heard uilleann pronounced any other way than (phonetically)
ill-ann (ellen is passable). I believe the root is either from the Irish for
elbow, or a corruption of the English "union pipes." From the small sample
of Northumbrian pipes I've seen, they seem smaller than Uilleann pipes and
have a hinged stopper at the base of the chanter to perform the job done
by the piece of leather on the leg of an Uilleann piper.
139.3Northumbrian PipesIOSG::DONOVANFri Feb 27 1987 12:4712
    
    The Northumbrian pipes are also known as 'smallpipes'. I believe
    they play in 'G' and have a basic 1 octave chanter, which makes
    them higher and more limited in range than the Uileann pipes, although
    some pipes have extra keys to extend the range.
    
    I can't think of any good recordings to recommend - I've only heard
    / seen the Northumbrian pipes in Folk Clubs. 
    
    John
    
        
139.4The Battlefield band and pipesSSGVAX::OCONNELLIrish by NameTue Mar 03 1987 09:536
    The Battlefield Band use Northumbrian pipes in many of their tunes.
     The have two albums out that I know about, but I'm not sure of
    the titles.  I'll have a look in my record shelves, but if anyone
    knows off hand...
    
    Roxanne
139.5DUBSWS::D_OSULLIVANAvoid commas, that are unnecessaryTue Mar 03 1987 12:285
    Uileann most probably comes from the word for elbow since this is
    the method of playing these pipes.  As an aside, the uileann pipes
    origated because the Irish were not allowed to play the bagpipes.
    
    /Dermot
139.6TSC01::MAILLARDWed Mar 04 1987 02:476
    Re .3, .4: Allistair Anderson, who's also a very good English
    concertina player, is one of the best present artists on the
    Northumbrian pipes. I don't have the name of any of his records in
    mind at the moment, but any folk music shop dealing in British or
    Celtic music should have some of them on their catalogue.
    			Denis.
139.7GEORDIE ELBOW PIPERERIC::LARSThu Mar 05 1987 09:2920
    FM: JOHN BOYLE TEESSIDE F.S. UK.
    
    I'M PUTTING IN MY HA'PORTH!
    
    THE NORTHUMBRIAN PIPES HAVE A PERMANENTLY STOPPED END TO THE CHANTER
    AS OPPOSED TO THE UILLEANN OPEN END.THEY PLAY NOMINALLY IN 'G' BUT
    IN FACT IT IS USUALLY F#-ISH.(I'M SURE THIS IS TO PREVENT OTHER
    MUSICIANS JOINING IN IN 'SESSIONS')
           ONE OF THE BRIGHT NEW STARS OF NORTHUMBRIAN PIPING IS KATHRYN
    TICKELL .CHECK WITH RECORD SHOPS FOR RECORDINGS.
    
    MYSELF I PREFER THE IRISH PIPES ;THEY ARE MORE VERSATILE AND
    EXPRESSIVE.   I PLAY A SET MYSELF AND ATTEND THE ANNUAL PIPERS'
    P-UP HELD IN IRELAND IN MAY. THIS YEAR ITS IN THE WEST (NEAR GALWAY) .
    I WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT MIKE CLUNE WHOM I MET IN SAUDI ARABIA ,LAST
    I HEARD HE WAS WORKING IN GALWAY PLANT. ANYONE WITH ANY NEWS?
    
    
    SLEANTE! 
    
139.8Good PipingWELSWS::MANNIONMon Mar 09 1987 07:5314
    For excellent performances on the Northumbrian pipes I would recommend
    anything by the High Level Ranters. Alastair Anderson and Colin
    Ross both played the pipes with them. They produced about ten albums
    before they split up a few years ago, reforming as The New High
    Level Ranters! Anderson went off to do other things, but Colin Ross
    was still there, and another piper was one of the new line up, but
    I can't remember who.
    
    The New line up did not come up to the standards of the original
    four. Their albums were released on Topic and Trailer records, about
    half on each label, the Topic records should still be available.
    I will get the names and numbers if anyone asks.
    
    Phillip 
139.9An asideWELSWS::MANNIONThu Mar 12 1987 08:344
    There is a reference somewhere in Shakespeare to a musician playing
    the "woolly" pipes. This is thought to be a corruption of Uileann.
    
    Phillip
139.10We just never told "Them" ....ENGGSG::BURNSAs The Hammer Strikes The AnvilThu Mar 12 1987 10:039
    
    The Irish invented the Bagpipes, and gave them to the Scots.
    
    
    
    
    
    
     (as a joke)
139.11Lexicon ScotticonWELSWS::MANNIONThu Mar 12 1987 10:4410
    I am developing a Scots dictionary for some friends we're going
    on holiday with up there (They've never been North of Carlisle.)
    
    One of the terms I have, er, invented is a euphemism for the bagpipes
    They have become The Devil's Intestines!
    
    This applies only to the Highland pipes, I should add, not the Uileann
    or Northumbrian pipes.
    
    Phillip 
139.12The pipes are calling!CGVAX2::PRIESTLEYThu Jan 28 1993 09:008
    bagpipes, of whatever sort, are one of the most widely distributed
    instruments known.  Bagpipes existed all through the mediterranean and
    Balkans long before civilization even knew of Scotland, Ireland, etc.
    
    Andrew
    
    P.S. my preference is Scottish Highland Pipes.