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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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111.0. "A BEAUTIFUL IRISH POEM" by FNYFS::AUNGIER (Rene El Gringo sin casa, Irish Rebel) Tue Dec 30 1986 04:44

	Ta ana amhas orm a dain seo a cur anseo
    	I am very happy to include this poem here.
    
    	Ta an dain seo ag caint ar paiste. Bionn fearg orainn
    	nuair a deanann paiste rudai cosuil le briseadh rudai
    	sa teach ach ni bionn siad linn rofhada agus mar sin
    	de chaithimid beith pasainte.
    
    	This poem talks about children. We sometimes get annoyed
    	when children do things like breaking something in the
    	house but children are not with us for long as the poem says
    	and because of that we have to be a little patient with them
    
    	
		SUBH MILIS
    		==========
    
    	Bhi subh milis ar bhascrann an dorais
    	ach mhuch me an ciorrai ionam a d'eirigh
    	mar smaoinigh ar a la a bheis an bascrann glan
    	agus an laimh beag ar eirigh.

    
    	I will translate it literally first as it is more beautiful
    	the way we Irish express ourselves in Irish than in English.
    
    	There was jam on the handle of the door
    	but I quenched the anger that arose within me
    	when I thought of the day that the handle will be clean
    	and the little hand missing.
    
    	It means that a child dirtied the handle of a door with
    	jam and the parent felt angry but said nothing, instead the
    	parent thinks of how quickly the child will grow up and leave
    	the home and the handle of the door will be clean with no children
    	around.
    
    	It is a sad and happy poem. Sad because the parent can feel
    	the loneliness that will arise in the home when the child is
    	grown up. Happy because the child brings joy and happiness to
    	the home and give a good feeling in the home.
    
    
    	I cannot remember more off by hard but there are very many such
    	poems which are rich, sad, happy, and give joy to me anyway
    	at the beauty of the Irish language and all that is Irish.
    
    
    	Slan agus beannacht.
    	Go n-eiri an bothair leat agus feachimid sibh an blian seo chugainn
    
    	Rene Aungier
    	(An Gaelach ag obair sa Franc, Nil morainn sheans agam mo chuid
    	Geilge a chleactha anseo ach ta me ag leabh anois mar ni maith
    	liom mo chuid Geilge a chailte)
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111.1Beautiful and Irish is redundant!!USWAV1::KEANEYFri Mar 13 1987 22:37116
    YOUR POEM REMINDED OF A SIMILAR, BUT A SLIGHTLY MORE LENGTHY EFFORT
    BY THE INIMITABLE PERCY FRENCH. I'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH FOR
    MOST OF MY SCARS TO HAVE HEALED,AND THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW POEMS
    THAT EVER "CHOKED ME UP" WHEN I READ IT. IT GOES AS FOLLOWS:
    		
    		A wee slip drawin' water,
    	
    		The ould man at the plough,
    
    		No grown-up son or daughter,
    
    		That's the way we're farming now.
    
    		"No work and little pleasure"
    
    		Was the cry before they wint,
    
    		Now they're gettin' both full measure,
    
    		So I ought to be contint.
    
    
    
    		Great wages men is givin'
    
    		In the land beyant the say,
    
    		But 'tis lonely--lonely livin'
    
    		Whin the childher is away.
    
    
    
    		Och the baby in the cradle,
    
    		Blue eyes and curlin' hair,
    
    		God knows I'd give a gra'dle
    
    		To have little Pether there;
    
    		No doubt he'd find it funny
    
    		Lyin' here upon me arm,
    
    		Him--that's earnin'the good money,
    
    		On a Californy farm.
    
    
    
    		Six pounds it was or sivin
    
    		He sint last quarter day,
    
    		But 'tis lonely--lonely livin'
    
    		Whin the childher is away.
    
    
    
    		God is good--no better,
    
    		And the Divil might be worse,
    
    		Each month there comes a letther
    
    		Bringing something for the purse.
    
    		And the ould man's heart rejoices
    
    		When I read they're doin' fine,
    
    		But it's oh! to hear their voices,
    
    		And to feel their hands in mine.
    
    
    
    		To see the cattle driven'
    
    		And the young ones makin' hay,
    
    		'Tis a lonely land to live in
    
    		When the childher is away.
    
    
    
    		Whin the shadows do be fallin'
    
    		On the ould man there an' me,
    
    		'Tis hard to keep from callin'
    
    		"Come in, childher, to yer tea!"
    
    		I can almost hear them comin'
    
    		Mary, Kate and little Con--
    
    		Och! but I'm the foolish woman,
    
    		Sure they're all grown up an' gone.
    
    
    
    		That our sins may be forgiven,
    
    		An' not wan go asthray,
    
    		I doubt I'd stay in Heaven
    
    		If them childher was away.
    
                                 -Percy French
111.2SYSTEM::COCKBURNCraig CockburnFri Jul 26 1991 07:4183
>   <<< Note 111.0 by FNYFS::AUNGIER "Rene El Gringo sin casa, Irish Rebel" >>>
>                          -< A BEAUTIFUL IRISH POEM >-

I would like to add my congratulations to the author of .0 for a lovely
poem. However, I noticed a lack of "fadas" (accents). I sent it to a fluent
Irish speaker I know and she put them in as well as making a few other
corrections. Here is the corrected version.

Craig

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Craig - � scr�obh seo faoi dheifir!
        The actual translation is already word-perfect, the only
        thing wrong is "handle of the door", which should read
        "door-knocker". Actually the translation is better than original
        on that score, if you think about it. I have often put my hand on
        door-handle sticky with God-knows-what the child may have had in
        her hand. But on a sticky door-knocker, never! They are out of
        a child's reach. I am endeavouring to finish a few more things
        before I go on holiday, so - plea from the heart - don't tell
        anyone I cast an eye over the contents of the attahced. All too
        often, an acknowledgment like that brings a spate of similar
        requests (usually to vet very dull items, unlike your "Subh"
        poem, which happens to be one of my all-time favourites!)
Marion

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         T� an-�thas orm an d�n seo a chur anseo.
         I am very happy to include this poem here.
 
         T� an d�n seo ag cur s�os ar ph�iste. B�onn fearg ar
         thuismitheoir nuair a dh�anann p�iste rud as an sl�,
         cuirim i gc�s rud �igin a bhriseadh. N� fada a mhaireann
         r� na h�ige, �fach. Is r�ghearr go mb�onn na p�ist� ina
         ndaoine f�sta agus iad ar shi�l � theach na muintire. Ar an
         �bhar sin, ba cheart d�inn a bheith foighneach le p�iste.
 
         This poem talks about children. We sometimes get annoyed
         when children do things like breaking something in the
         house but children are not with us for long as the poem says
         and because of that we have to be a little patient with them
 
 
                 SUBH MILIS
                 ==========
 
         Bh� subh milis ar bhoschrann an dorais
         ach mh�ch m� an corra� ionam a d'�irigh
         mar smaoinigh ar an l� a bheas an boschrann glan
         agus an l�mh bheag ar iarraidh.
 
 
         I will translate it literally first as it is more beautiful
         the way we Irish express ourselves in Irish than in English.
 
         There was jam on the door-knocker
         but I quenched the anger that arose within me
         when I thought of the day that the door-knocker will be clean
         and the little hand missing.
 
         It means that a child dirtied the door-knocker with
         jam and the parent felt angry but said nothing, instead the
         parent thinks of how quickly the child will grow up and leave
         the home and the door-knocker will be clean with no children
         around.
 
         It is a sad and happy poem. Sad because the parent can feel
         the loneliness that will arise in the home when the child is
         grown up. Happy because the child brings joy and happiness to
         the home and give a good feeling in the home.
 
 
        I cannot remember more off by heart but there are very many such
        poems which are rich, sad, happy, and give joy to me anyway
        at the beauty of the Irish language and all that is Irish.
 
        Sl�n agus beannacht.
        Go n-�ir� an b�thar leat agus feicfimid th� an bhliain seo chugainn.
 
        Ren� Aungier
        (An Gaelach ag obair san Fhrainc. N�l m�r�n seans agam mo chuid 
         Gaeilge a chleachtadh anseo, ach t� m� ag l�amh anois mar n� maith 
         liom mo chuid Gaeilge a chailli�int.)
111.3SYSTEM::COCKBURNCraig CockburnFri Jul 26 1991 07:534
p.s. I'm told the Irish for "door handle" is murl�n, if that is what the 
author  of .0 was really trying to say.

Craig