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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1632
Total number of notes:20523

103.0. "Irish Poetry" by JETSAM::COREY (Making last week, yesterday, today!) Wed Dec 03 1986 10:21

    I thought I would enter this note to include a poem which brings
    back all the vivid images of Ireland to my mind, even though it
    has been more than 10 years since I visited your country.  If anyone
    can explain the reference to "Kathaleen Ni Houlihan" in the poem,
    (what it means/refers to) I'd appreciate it.
    
    --Chris
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103.1 JETSAM::COREYMaking last week, yesterday, today!Wed Dec 03 1986 10:2444
               THE PASSING OF THE GAEL

They are going, going, going from the valleys and the hills,
They are leaving far behind them heathery moor and mountain rills,
All the wealth of hawthorne hedges where the brown thrush sways and thrills.

They are going, shy-eyed cailins, and lads so straight and tall,
From the purple peaks of Kerry, from the crags of wild Imaal,
From the greening plains of Mayo, and the glens of Donegal.

They are leaving pleasant places, shores with snowy sands outspread;
Blue and lonely lakes a-stirring when the wind stirs overhead;
Tender living hearts that love them, and the graves of kindred dead.

They shall carry to the distant land a tear-drop in the eye
And some shall go uncomforted--their days an endless sigh
For Kathaleen Ni Houlihan's sad face, until they die.

Oh, Kathaleen Ni Houlihan, your road's a thorny way,
And 'tis a faithful soul would walk the flints with you for aye,
Would walk the sharp and cruel flints until his locks grew grey.

So some must wander to the East, and some must wander West;
Some seek the white wastes of the North, and some a Southern nest;
Yet never shall they sleep so sweet as on your mother breast.

Within the city streets, hot, hurried, full of care,
A sudden dream shall bring them a whiff of Irish air--
A cool air, faintly scented, blown soft from otherwhere.

Oh, the cabins long-deserted!--Olden Memories awake--
Oh, the pleasant, pleasant places!--Hush! the blackbird in the brake!
Oh, the dear and kindly voices!--Now their hearts are fain to ache.

They may win a golden store--sure the whins were golden too;
And no foreign skies hold beauty like the rainy skies they knew;
Nor any night-wind cool the brow as did the foggy dew.

.      .      .      .      .      .      .      .      .     .     .

They are going, going, going, and we cannot bid them stay;
Their fields are now the stranger's, where the stranger's cattle stray.
Oh! Kathaleen Ni Houlihan, your way's a thorny way!
                            ---From Ethna Carbery's "The Four Winds of Eirinn" 
103.2Kathleen is IrelandEKLV00::OFARRELLClonmel DTN 826-2230Wed Dec 03 1986 16:4712
    Both for the understanding of the poem and understanding of notes
    in this file, Kathaleen Ni Houlihan was a name used by Gaelic poets
    for Ireland.  The British banned the use of Ireland in poetry so
    the poets used Kathaleen Ni Houlihan instead.
    
    If you would like to discuss it further why not have a pint with
    us on Saturday night next in Kathleen Ni Houlihans in Nashua.  You
    could recite the poem as your party piece!
    
    Dia dhuit,
    
    Willie
103.3More Porter !!!ENGGSG::BURNSThe West Awake, The West AwakeThu Dec 04 1986 07:4812
    
    
    	Just a quick note ....
    
    	Willie will be out here from Clonmel this Saturday, (Dec 6th)
        and plans to be in attendance at Kathleen N� Houlihans that night.
                                                                    
    
    	Everyone is welcome to join us !!!                           
    
    
    	Kevin
103.4coupla questionsHARDY::ST_ONGEThu Dec 04 1986 12:0714
    Anyone know when that poem was written?  
    
    The Brits banned the use of the word "Ireland" in poetry???  When?
     I'm intrigued.
    
    And....where is Houlihan's?  As a transplanted Bostonian, I miss
    live Irish music.  Can anyone give me an address for this pub? 
    And what nights they have live music?  And if its the sort of place
    a female can drop in without her mate and not worry about people
    assuming all kinds of things....?
    
    thank you
    
    ds
103.519628::MR_TOPAZThu Dec 04 1986 13:1522
     re .4:
     
     Houlihan's is in downtown Nashua, on Canal Street (also called
     Railroad Square) across from The Stable.
     
     To get there: Follow Rt. 3 north into New Hampshire, then take Exit 5E
     (Rt. 111 East).  Follow Rt 111 (Kinsley Street) to the 4th traffic
     signal (about 1 mile), which will be Main Street.  There will be a
     pharmacy on the right corner and a branch of the Nahsua library on the
     left corner. 
     
     Turn left on Main St, and follow Main St through 4 traffic lights.
     After the 4th light, you'll cross a small bridge (which is hard to
     notice), and then you'll come to another traffic light -- Dunkin
     Donuts is on the corner.  Turn right here (Canal St/Railroad Sq), and
     Houlihan's is about 200 yards ahead on the right, at the red awning. 
     
     Houlihan's is a friendly place, not a threatening one.  They have live
     music Thurs (8:30-1:00), Fri (9-closing), and Sat (9-closing).
     
     --Mr Topaz
     
103.6TSC01::MAILLARDFri Dec 05 1986 02:4513
    Re .4: the Brits banned much more than the use of Ireland in poetry
    at the time of the Penal Laws and later. For about two and a half
    or three centuries to be an Irish catholic in Ireland was equivallent
    to be an underbeing with no legal or civic right whatsoever.
    The poem, on the other way, seems to have been written later, at the
    time of great emigration which followed the great hunger (1846-1850),
    when about 1.5 million Irish starved to death and about 2.5 millions
    emigrated, mostly to America, thus dividing by 2 the population
    of the island (it's still today less than the 8 millions it was
    then). Without any more information, I'd say it must have been written
    during the second half of last century, maybe at the very beginning
    of the 20th century.
    				Denis.
103.7GAOV08::FERRIELiam Ferrie - GalwayTue Dec 09 1986 07:4014
Denis is right about the poem being written in the latter half of
the last century.   Ethna Carberry was born in 1866 and died in 
1902.  This was her pen-name.  She was born Anna Johnston in 
Ballymena, Co.Antrim.  Her husband was Seumas MacManus a well 
known author from Co.Donegal.


I suspect that few readers would understand the word "whins" in
the poem?  

This is the commonly used term in the northern part of Ireland for
the plant that is known as gorse or furze.

		Liam
103.8FurzeTALLIS::DARCYGeorge @Littleton Mass USATue Dec 09 1986 11:048
    Liam,

    The furze plants are really beautiful, something which one
    doesn't find in America.
    
    It makes for great pictures, providing a bit of contrast
    in color.  But, I guess, the Irish don't really like the
    plant because it's a nuisance controlling them.
103.9The whins were golden too...JETSAM::COREYMaking last week, yesterday, today!Tue Dec 09 1986 15:035
    Thanks for the info on "whins".  That's the only term in the dictionary
    for which I couldn't find a meaning and I was just about to post
    a note asking about it.  
    
    --Chris
103.10BravoGAOV07::MHUGHESI got a mean wriggleThu Dec 11 1986 12:5517
    Leaprechauns were wistful.
    
    Thank you very much Chris Corey, for that smashing piece of poetry.
    I had been looking for exactly this piece for a while now, and to
    think  that it reared its head from an American source.
    Well done.
    You'd nearly need to be Irish to sense the mist-eyed sentiment of
    that poem, and it certainly stimulated me with regard to modern
    day Irish emigration.
    
    I beleive that Kevin Burns or Don Topaz should extract this piece
    and bring it down to the much mentioned public house so that the
    owner might consider having the poem drafted and mounted on his
    wall.
    
    Snake is grateful.
    
103.11The image of poetic IrelandJETSAM::COREYMaking last week, yesterday, today!Thu Dec 11 1986 16:1031
    Re:-1
    
    Funny you should mention hanging that on the wall because indeed,
    that's where I first saw that piece of poetry.  
    
    Now forgive me for not remembering all the fine details because 
    I'm drawing on memories
    that are 10 years old here (April 1976) but I believe I saw that
    poem hanging in a frame in O'Donohue's off St. Stevens Green in
    Dublin.  (I'm not exactly sure of the locale because, er, well,
    lads will be lads, and it being the last of our college years we
    decided to visit every pub and bar we could cram into an afternoon. 
    Anyway, "the fog was in" but I -DO- remember that poem on the wall 
    and I commented on it to the proprietor telling him what a powerful
    piece it was, flashing strong images in the mind as it was read,
    and he said "take it down, you can have it."  
    
    I refused telling him that he should never remove
    it since it made the tourist appreciate his own country and certainly
    painted a vivid picture of Ireland and gave one a keen sense of
    her problems and the problems of those who have gone away.    
    
    When I came home I found it and have read it when
    I want to bring back to mind Ireland's face, memories and pictures.
    
    I hope it still hangs wherever it was I saw it.
                                                
    Glad to help.
    
    --Chris
    
103.12TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceTue Aug 06 1991 10:392
    Does anybody know the words to a poem about the bells of Shandon?  
    
103.13TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceTue Feb 09 1993 15:1193
    RE: .12  by me
    
    >Does anybody know the words to a poem about the bells of Shandon?  
    
    When you read the following you'll see why I was looking for this.  It
    turns out the title was Shandon Bells, not Bells of Shandon.  No wonder
    I couldn't find it.  ;-)
 
    The events described by my Aunt Fran took place about 1902 in
    Arlington, Mass.

                Well, how come you went first to the Sisters'
                School, and then to the Russell School? - interviewer

                Well, 'cause I took the last year in the Russell
                School. 'Cause in my time in order for a girl from
                the Sisters' School to get into high school, she
                had to take all kinds of examinations. And my father
                thought that was ridiculous, 'cause he knew we were
                as smart as anybody else. So he says, "You're not
                going to have to take any examination to get into
                high school. You can go up to the Russell School,
                and you can go right into school with the rest of
                them. And you won't have to take any examination."
                Which I did. I went into the Russell School and I
                walked into the school with the rest of the kids. I
                didn't go to the teacher and tell her that I came
                from a parochial school or anything. And after I'd
                been there a couple of weeks, the superintendent,
                Mr. Scully, happened to be in the room. And so the
                teacher found out that I did pretty well on reading.
                So she asked me to get up and read something. So
                instead of reading, I recited a piece of poetry,
                the Bells of Shandon. 'Cause, of course, being Irish
                I knew it very well. My grandmother had taught it
                to me. So I recited the Bells of Shandon and the
                superintendent had his eyes open. And afterwords
                he had called me up to Miss Adams, was her name.
                He asked me what my name was and I told them. He
                said "Did you ever go to school here before?" And I
                said, "No, I went to the Sisters' School." He said,
                "Oh, how did you end up here?" "Well," I told him,
                "My father told me to." So that was that. It was
                funny . . . I often think of that. She never asked
                me where I came from, and yet you think the teacher
                would have had a list of names of the children that
                were going to come into the class. But I walked in
                and I sat on the seat right in the front row, 'cause
                I was small. And I had to have one of the low seats,
                so I sat right in the front row. And she was very
                kind to me. I liked her very much.

                - Frances Ahern, 15 April 1974 for Robbins Library
                oral history project

    
                                  The Shandon Bells
    
                With deep affection, and recollection
                I often think of those Shandon bells,
                Whose sound so wild would, in the days of my childhood,
                Fling round my cradle their magic spells.
                On this I ponder, where'er I wander,
                And thus grow fonder, sweet Cork, of thee,
                With thy bells of Shandon, that sound so grand on
                The pleasant waters of the River Lee.

                I've heard bells chiming, full many a clime in,
                Tolling sublime in Cathedral shrine,
                While at a glib rate, brass tongues would vibrate-
                But all their music spoke naught like thine;
                For memory dwelling, on each proud swelling,
                Of the belfry knelling, its bold notes free,
                Made the bells of Shandon, sound far more grand on,
                The pleasant waters of the River Lee.

                I've heard bells tolling, Old "Adrian's Mole" in,
                Their thunder rolling from the Vatican,
                And cymbals glorious swinging uproarious,
                In the gorgeous turrets of Notre Dame;
                But their sounds were sweeter, than the dome of Peter,
                Flings o'er the Tiber, pealing solemnly;-
                Oh! the bells of Shandon sound far more grand on,
                The pleasant waters of the River Lee.

                There's a bell in Moscow, while a tower and kosk o!
                In Saint Sophia the Turkman gets,
                And loud in air, calls men to prayer,
                From the tapering summit, of tall minarets.
                Such empty phantom, I freely grant them;
                But there is an anthem, more dear to me,-
                Tis the bells of Shandon, that sound so grand on,
                The pleasant waters of the River Lee.
103.14Beckett Collection expandedTALLIS::DARCYAlpha Migration ToolsThu Mar 17 1994 01:218
    BC has expanded Beckett collection
    
    Newton - Boston College yesterday announced the expansion of its
    collection of the papers of Irish novelist and playwright Samuel
    Beckett, with the receipt of corresponence and manuscripts held by
    Barney Rosset, Beckett's North American literary agent and friend.
    
    Boston Globe - 3/16/94
103.15TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceThu Mar 17 1994 11:136
    RE: .14  by TALLIS::DARCY 
    
    >BC has expanded Beckett collection
    
    Is this the one with Peter O'Toole?
    
103.16The Rhythm of Time - Bobby SandsGYRO::HOLOHANMon May 08 1995 13:5678
I nDil Chuimhne

Bobby Sands (14th Ann., 5 May)


                The Rhythm of Time

        There's an inner thing in every man,
        Do you know this thing my friend?
        It has withstood the blows of a million years,
        And will do so to the end.

        It was born when time did not exist,
        And it grew up out of life,
        It cut down evil's strangling vines,
        Like a slashing searing knife.

        It lit fires when fires were not,
        And burnt the mind of man,
        Tempering leadened hearts to steel,
        From the time that time began.

        It wept by the waters of Babylon,
        And when all men were at a loss,
        It screeched in writhing agony,
        And it hung bleeding from the Cross.

        It died in Rome by lion and sword,
        And in defiant cruel array,
        When the deathly word was 'Spartacus',
        Along the Appian Way.

        It marched with Wat the Tyler's poor,
        And frightened lord and king,
        And it was emblazoned in their deathly stare,
        As e'er a living thing.

        It smiled in holy innocence,
        Before conquistadors of old,
        So meek and tame and unaware,
        Of the deathly power of gold.

        It burst forth through pitiful Paris streets,
        And stormed the old Bastille,
        And marched upon the serpent's head,
        And crushed it 'neath its heel.

        It died in blood on Buffalo Plains,
        And starved by moons of rain,
        Its heart was buried at Wounded Knee,
        But it will come to rise again.

        It screamed aloud by Kerry lakes,
        As it was knelt upon the ground,
        And it died in great defiance,
        As they coldly shot it down.

        It is found in every light of hope
        It knows no bounds nor space,
        It has risen in red and black and white,
        It is there in every race.

        It lies in the hearts of heroes dead,
        It screams in tyrant's eyes,
        It has reached the peak of mountains high,
        It comes searing 'cross the skies.

        It lights the dark of this prison cell,
        It thunders forth its might,
        It is 'the undauntable thought,' my friend,
        That thought that says 'I'm right!'



-from *Skylark Sing Your Lonely Song*
      (an anthology of the writings of Bobby Sands)