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Title:Celt Notefile
Moderator:TALLIS::DARCY
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
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30.0. "Travelling in Ireland from Usenet" by BRAHMS::DARCY (George Darcy) Wed Apr 09 1986 17:16

Newsgroups: net.travel
Path: decwrl!dual!bridget
Subject: Re: Information needed on traveling in Ireland
Posted: 8 Apr 86 06:37:52 GMT
Organization: Dual Systems Corp. Berkeley, Ca.
Keywords: (long!)
 
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Keegan Joan) writes:
>**
>
>We would really like to be on our own, with a fly/drive rather than a
>"motorcoach" tour.  However, all the fly/drives I can find just give you 
>vouchers for places to stay (home or hotel), and a list.
>
>The other possibility is going on an escorted motorcoach (i.e., bus)
>tour.
>
>In addition, if anyone has recommendations for specific tours or fly/drives,
>or places to stay, or things to see, I'd be very grateful.
>
	About three years ago I spent a month hitch-hiking Ireland.  The 
following September, my folks rented a car and spent almost three weeks
touring the island.  If I were you, I would avoid escorted motorcoaches
like the plague, and would go the rented car route (just don't drive 
around Dublin -- too complicated).  I'm not even sure vouchers for hotels 
is such a good idea.  In Ireland, it's good to keep your iternary very
flexible.
 
	Most tour groups concentrate on the southwestern end -- the Ring
of Kerry.  Very beautiful, I'll be the first to admit, but if you want
to really get to know the people and the island, you should hit some of 
the more 'desolate' areas.   Places to try (on the west coast):
	-- County Clare:  The Cliffs of Moher are not to be missed.
Further inland, there is an area (I forget the name) which is home to all
sorts of ecological and historical wonders (Celtic dwellings thousands
of years old, and mixtures of plants found no where else in the world, as
examples).  There is a small natural history museum in Lisdoonvarna, I
believe, that explains the area in detail (the town is located on the main
road out of Ennis through Clare -- anyone in the county can tell you where).
	-- the area surrounding the city of Galway.  Spiddal, just outside
the city, is one of the most accessible areas of the Gaeltacht; a number
of young people live there, pursuing the ancient culture of Ireland.  In
Galway, ask for directions to Padraig Pearce's cottage -- it's in a 
barren, desolate, wildly beautiful area north in Connamara.
 
	I think you'll have a problem NOT finding a place to 
sleep, as long as you avoid staying overnight in obvious places like
Killarney.  Try Bantry (of Bantry Bay, on the SSW edge) or Clifden (in the
Connemara region), as recommended to me by Irishmen.  Go for the smaller
towns: not only less crowded, and more true to Ireland, they will also be
cheaper.  Try inquiring at the local pub (after buying a pint, of course).
Generally, if you stop at a town by 2:00, you should be fine.  Another
thing to note:  Ireland's tourist board has an office in almost every town,
and they can be really helpful.  
 
	Don't spend too much time in Dublin -- I found it a disappointment
after so much time in the country.  On the other hand, I had a grand time
in Wexford, Waterford, & Cork.
 
	By the way, you'll find all kinds of people hitch-hiking there 
(I once saw a family of 5!); don't be as cautious to pick people up as
you would here.
 
	Above all, have a wonderful time -- I'd love to be going back
with you!!
 
		Cheers!,
 
		Bridget Dobbins
		Dual Systems Corp.
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30.1how do you reply ?ENGGSG::BURNSNeath&#039; the shroud of the foggy dewFri Apr 11 1986 09:558
    
    	Does anyone know the proper syntax to reply to these articles ??
    
    
    
    
    	keVin
    
30.2Sending notes to usenet groupsBRAHMS::DARCYGeorge DarcyFri Apr 11 1986 11:168
    To send replies to the celts usenet group, simply send the mail to:
	RHEA::DECWRL::"net.nlang.celts"

    -same format for other groups 
    
    George
    
    Anyone want to know how to subscribe to usenet groups???
30.3More travel infoBRAHMS::DARCYGeorge DarcyMon Apr 14 1986 10:5056
Newsgroups: net.travel
Path: decwrl!decvax!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!varian!vaxwaller!barry
Subject: Re: Information needed on traveling in Ireland
Posted: 9 Apr 86 21:36:46 GMT
Organization: Varian, Walnut Creek, CA
 
> In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Keegan Joan) writes:
> >We would really like to be on our own, with a fly/drive rather than a
> >"motorcoach" tour.  However, all the fly/drives I can find just give you 
> >vouchers for places to stay (home or hotel), and a list.
> 
> 	I think you'll have a problem NOT finding a place to 
> sleep, as long as you avoid staying overnight in obvious places like
> Killarney.  
> 
	I went on a fly/drive tour of Ireland last summer and found it a very
nice way of seeing the country. I stayed in bed and breakfast places. That
is the best way of actually meeting the real people. Most of them were very
friendly. I was travelling on my own. I found *that* to be the most difficult
obstacle to obtaining a room sometimes as most places tend to cater to couples
and do not want to waste their rooms on just one person. I'm not sure but I
would imagine they get more money for 2 people. And actually I had relatively
no problem finding a room in Killarney since there are so many there. However,
I did get worried in Blarney (near Cork) and in Dublin as it was getting late
and all the rooms were booked. Its best to get a reservation made earlier in
the day. I had vouchers and while many places accepted them some did not.Since
you will be with your husband I wouldn't expect much problem. (I was there at
the beginning of September - don't know about June)
	As for places to see......If you like castles, prepare to be over-
whelmed. There are more castles in Ireland than there are people!:-)
Do not do yourself a disfavor by avoiding all the touristy places. Some have
earned their reputation rightly so. The Ring of Kerry is beautiful. Also,
the lakes around Killarney are nice. By all means try to see Powerscourt
Gardens near Dublin. I'm really not into gardens per se but this place is
a must-see.
> >The other possibility is going on an escorted motorcoach (i.e., bus)
> >tour.
> >
> >In addition, if anyone has recommendations for specific tours or fly/drives,
> >or places to stay, or things to see, I'd be very grateful.
	I already posted a lengthy article (almost as long as this one!) on
the merits of Contiki tours. I believe that they have an escorted *camping*
tour of Ireland. They are limited to 18-35 year olds. I really liked my hotel
tour with them. I think that the camping tour in Ireland might stay in some
castles.
> 
> 	Don't spend too much time in Dublin -- I found it a disappointment
> after so much time in the country. 
> 
	To each their own. After spending a week in the country I found it
nice to actually see a City. (Cork notwithstanding) I went to Ireland immed-
iately after a trip to Scandinavia, Western Europe and London where I had
seen many of the world's leading cities. Suddenly in Ireland where there are
not many large towns I almost suffered from "rural shock". See it all!
					Bon Voyage
					Barry Nesmith
30.4Still more travel info...BRAHMS::DARCYGeorge DarcyMon Apr 14 1986 11:0053
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Newsgroups: net.travel
Path: decwrl!pyramid!hplabs!sdcrdcf!randvax!boren
Subject: Re: Information needed on traveling in Ireland
Posted: 8 Apr 86 21:55:26 GMT
Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica
 
 
This past September, we flew to Ireland from England (twasn't cheap),
rented a car on our own, and travelled around for 4 days.
 
Don't worry about accomodations.  There are plenty of B&Bs that are
easy to find (look for the "B&B" signs in front of homes and along the
roads), nice, and inexpensive (8 Irish pounds per person).  We found our
Waterford B&B by asking at the glass factory if they had any
recommendations. (Do take the tour of the factory -- opens at 10AM, no
charge, and is fascinating.) You may even select a working farm!
 
Ireland is really small, but distances are misleading.  You don't cover
the mileage you would driving in America.  Try not to push it and spend
all your time on the road -- limit yourself to 150-200 miles a day.  Easy
to do:  Dublin to Waterford (couple hours), Waterford to Cork/Blarney,
Galway to Dublin.  Hard to do:  Waterford to Galway.  And it IS a long way
to Tipperary, but worth it to see the beautiful castles nearby.
 
Driving on your own is an experience.  "Highways" are 2 lanes with
wide shoulders.  Don't be surprised when you go around a blind curve
and a car is coming right at you.  You simply move over onto the
shoulder to let the oncoming car finish passing whatever he's passing
(horse-drawn wagon, truck, tractor, you name it).  That's right, it's
up to you to move out of the way -- that's what the shoulders are for!
Also, they drive on the left side of the street, so rental cars have
the steering wheel on the right (and the stick on the left if you don't
go for an automatic), if that should bother you.
 
Things to see:  Blarney Castle, Waterford (factory, really), Killarney
(jaunting cart rides are fun and cheap), to name a few.  Check out the
areas you stay in.  Galway had slot machine arcades.  In Waterford, we
discovered all the school kids were out one evening at a grotto where the
statue of the Virgin Mary had supposedly moved.  After talking with one
little girl, she nearly convinced us it had!
 
Depending on your tastes, visit the pubs, horse races, churches, parks,
castles, but have fun!
-- 
 
 
		Patricia Boren
		decvax!randvax!boren
		[email protected]
30.5Latest info on where to go??????IPG::KITEMon Jun 22 1987 13:0015
    Just added this NOTE to my file.
    
    I and my partner are planning to visit Ireland for two weeks at
    the end of August.  We looked at 'go as you please' hotel holiday
    but we were advised by a friend to just go and not to worry about
    accommodation..... "there is always a place to stay".
    
    I have always wanted to visit Ireland, and am sure it won't be an
    anti-climax, but I don't want to miss anything.  I noticed these
    notes are about a year old, so (and at last we get to the reason
    for my note) can anyone give any more info on where to go and what
    to see.  We'll be landing at Rosslare.
    
    Thanks in advance
    Janice
30.6and don't forget the umbrellaDUB01::OSULLIVAN_DWe&#039;re not stopping before Park Gate StreetMon Jun 22 1987 13:2621
    re: .5
    
    It's true - accomodation should never be a problem.  As to the best
    places to go, there's no real answer.  Take pot luck and you'll
    probably be alright.  If you are into the scenery/events sort of
    thing then contact your nearest Bord Failte (Irish Tourist) office
    and they'll have brochures on the different regions.  Some quick
    pointers:
    
    	West coast (Kerry, Galway, Donegal) for spectacular scenery
        and wild Atlantic coastline.
    
    	Shannon river for boat cruises
    
    	Cork for pleasant rolling countryside (most of the country is
      	like that) and some good restaurants
	
    	Dublin for the car fumes:-)
    
        
    Getting to talk to the locals is essential whereever you go.
30.7Hicking around the West CoastPOLAR::AWADMon Jul 30 1990 20:4314
    George,
     
    I am just now getting interested in Ireland. My business  travels
    are taking me there to Dublinb, Galway and Clonmel. I am very
    interested in hiking around the West Coast, and I am wondering if
    there is an outdoors club in or around Galway that might go out on
    hicking trips. 
    
    I would be interested in touching base with someone that enjoys hiking.
    If you have a lead, please communicate that to POLAR::AWAD
    
    Thanks a lot
    
    Nadim
30.8KAOM25::RUSHTONUnscathed by inspired lunacyTue Jul 31 1990 12:297
Nadim:

	After a severe session in the pubs, I'm sure there will be
'hicking' while hiking. 8*)

Pat

30.9TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceWed Mar 30 1994 11:59110
Article: 16758
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Accomodation  Lists For Ireland
From: [email protected] (Sea/n Mac Suibhne)
Date: 29 Mar 94 12:43:26 EST
Organization: The IDS World Network Internet Access Service
 
 
Here are some useful addresses if you require accommodation
lists in Ireland
--------------------------------------------------------
If you require a list of Hotel or Bed and Breakfast
accommodation then write to
 
Write to 	Bord Failte
		The Irish Tourist Board
                Head Office
                Baggot Street Bridge
                Dublin 2
                Ireland
 
Tel 		+ 353 1 676 5871
Tel 		+ 353 1 661 6500
Fax   		(None that I know of)
--------------------------------------------------------
If you are coming to Ireland this summer
and wish to do so as cheaply as possible
why not write to the following organisations
for their list of hostel accommodation.
 
Please note that this information was taken from last
years publications.
--------------------------------------------------------
IRISH YOUTH HOSTEL ASSOCIATION
 
Membership required.
 
43 Hostels in Republic.
The 1993 list gives the hostel in Northern Ireland
and I don't have the 1994 list.
 
 
Write to : 	An Oige
		Head Office
		61 Mountjoy Street
		Dublin 7
                Ireland
 
Tel 		+353 1 830 4555
Fax 		+353 1 830 5808
Telex   	32988 IYHA EI
--------------------------------------------------------
YOUTH HOSTEL ASSOCIATION OF NORTHERN IRELAND
 
Membership required.
 
6 hostels in Northern Ireland
Write to        YHIANI
                56 Bradbury Place
                Belfast BT7 1RU
                Northern Ireland
 
Tel		+44 232 324 733
Fax		+44 232 439 699
--------------------------------------------------------
IRISH BUDGET HOSTELS LTD.
 
No membership required.
 
26 hostels in Republic
 
Write to :      Irish Budget Hostels Ltd.
                Kinlay House
                2-12 Lord Edward Street
                Dublin 2
                Ireland
 
Tel 		+353 1 269 7696
Fax 		+353 1 269 7704
--------------------------------------------------------
INDEPENDENT HOSTEL ORGANISATION
 
No membership required.
 
97 hostels in the Republic and 3 in NI.
 
Write to        Independent Hostel Organisation
                Information Office
                Dooey Hostel
                Glencolmcille
                Co Donegal
                Ireland
 
Tel 		+353 73 30130
 
Also in Dublin  Independent Hostel Organisation
                Information Office
                Avalon House
                55 Aungier Street
                Dublin 2
                Ireland
 
Tel 		+353 1 475 0001
Fax 		+353 1 475 0303
--------------------------------------------------------
Sean Mac Suibhne March 1994
[email protected]
[email protected]
SMacSuibhne%[email protected]
SMacSuibhne%[email protected]
30.10AUNGIER STREETRUTILE::AUNGIERLive for today, plan for tomorrowWed Mar 30 1994 17:2223
>================================================================================
>Note 30.9               Travelling in Ireland from Usenet                 9 of 9
>TOPDOC::AHERN "Dennis the Menace"                   110 lines  30-MAR-1994 10:59
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Here are some useful addresses if you require accommodation
>lists in Ireland
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Also in Dublin  Independent Hostel Organisation
>                Information Office
>                Avalon House
>                55 Aungier Street
>                Dublin 2
>                Ireland

Dennis,

I hope you noticed the street name, named after some of my forefathers. 
Unfortunately this street last time I saw it was pretty run down, it was 
once the centre of the poplin industry in Dublin. It is also the site or
was of one of Dublin's huguenot graveyards.

Ren�
30.11TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceWed Mar 30 1994 20:0310
    RE: .10  by RUTILE::AUNGIER 
    
>I hope you noticed the street name, named after some of my forefathers. 
>Unfortunately this street last time I saw it was pretty run down, it was 
    
    No, I hadn't noticed, Ren, but Mountjoy Street, where the Irish Youth
    Hostel Association is located is not exactly high class either.  Don't
    let that put you off though.  The Dublin International Hostel is pretty
    good and very inexpensive.