Conference sutra::europc

    
    
    
    What are the part numbers and chip numbers on the memory SIMMs? Please
    post these numbers when you get a chance. Also, while you're in the
    box, get the part numbers off the three large SIS chips (5511, 5512,
    5513) and from chip E21 (the chip that's next to the CPU, cache and
    SIMM sockets).
    
    regards,
    
    glen kelley

    Hi,
    
    You might also like to virus check your floppies.
    There is a common virus called 'boot parity', which gives this PARITY
    CHECK message on intermittent boots!
    It can be veryyyyyy time consuming to troubleshoot.
    I seem to remember it wasn't seen by my F-PROT, but once I'd infected
    my Laptop it got picked up by SWEEP for W'95.
    
    Regards Pete

Simm combination i tried is
1.
one 32mb ME654-DE HM5117400AS6      70ns
one 32mb ME654-DE TMS5417400DJ   VB62A006P 70ns
and
 2.
one  8mb 54-21246-EA  HY5118160B  
one  8mb 54-21246-EA  HY5118160B

MB1 rev A01 
sis chip
E20=5511  CGD0319
E25=5513  CGD0034
        5512  CGD0185
and E21= F245   XXAB9415

MB2 rev J01 
sis chip 
E20=5511  PGD2616
E25=5113  PGD2746
5512  PG01451
and   E21=F245  69A505ST

No virus found

Larsa

[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    Sorry to ask for additional information but I need all the markings on
    each of the SIS 55xx chips, in particular the last line on the chip
    will be the date code and stepping of the chip.
    
    Also on the E21 chip, I need the markings that identify the vendor and
    date codes.
    
    On the memory, are these Digital memory SIMMs? When you get the
    information, look for a Digital part number and then all of the part
    numbers on one of the chips from each SIMM. Look to see if all the chip
    numbers are the same.
    
    Thanks,
    
    glen kelley
    

Hallo !
Iwill help Lars-Eric to reply on your questean !

SIS 5511 CGD0319 9605DT
SIS 5512 CGD0185 9603BT
SIS 5513 CGD0034 9602FC

E21 motorola XXAB9415

Simm 32mb Toshiba TC514100ASJ-70 GER 9428TCK on 8 chip`s
                  TMS417400DJ WB52A006 P on 16 chip`s

Peter 

[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    Thanks, but I still need one more number that is on the 551x chips -
    it is a small number following the date code (this is the step of
    the chip. For the 5511 you should see something like:
    
    SIS 5511
    PGD1562
    9625DT e3 - its the last number, e3, that I need for each of the chips.
    
    thanks,
    
    glen kelley                       

Hallo again !

Sis 5511 have E3 as the last number 
Sis 5512 have B1 as the last number
Sis 5513 have A8 as the last number




Peter 
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    Thanks for the additional information.
    
    Please see if you can get memory SIMMs that are on the following list:
    These are the ONLY qualified SIMMs for Venturis FX.
    
    glen kelley
    						
    	HY	Hyandai				
    	MIC	Micron Technology				
    	HIT	Hitachi				
    	TOS	Toshiba Corp				
    	NEC	Nippon Electonics Corp				
    	SMT	Smart Modular Technologies				
    
    QUAL:
    F=FAIL
    Q=QUALIFIED
    
    
    Venturis FX Qualified FP Memory
    
    Model/Part	Ven	P/N		Rev	Qual	Date
    
    54-21225-EA	HIT	HM514400CS-7	C	Q	06/21/96
    4M(1MX32)70	MIT	M5M44400CJ-7	CA	Q	04/07/96
    8*1Mx4	NEC	424400-70	H	Q	03/29/96
    		NPNX	NN514400AJ-60	B	Q	03/31/96
    		TI	TMS44400DJ-70	E	Q	04/01/96
    
    54-21246-EA	HIT	HM514400CS7	C	Q	07/19/96
    8M(2Mx32)70	MIT	M5M44400CJ-7	CA	Q	07/19/96
    16*1MX4	NEC	424400-70	H	Q	04/01/96
    		NPNX	NN514400AJ-60	B	Q	04/07/96
    		SEC	KM44C1000CJ-7	C	Q	03/28/96
    		TI	TMS44400DJ-70	C 	Q	03/28/96
    
    54-21277-EA	HY	HY5117400AJ-70	A	Q	03/28/96
    32(8Mx32)70	MIT	M5M417400CJ-70	B	Q	03/29/96
    16*4Mx4	TI	TMS417400DJ-70	B	Q	03/31/96
    					 	
    54-23170-CA	HIT	HM5117400BS7	B	Q	12/12/96
    16(4Mx32)70	HY	HY5117400AJ-70	A	Q	04/02/96
    8*4Mx4	MIT	M5M417400CJ-7	CA	Q	04/02/96
    						
    54-23623-BA	HIT	HM5118160AJ7	B	F	08/30/96
    4M(1MX32)70	HY	HY5118160JC-70	0	F	08/27/96
    2*1Mx16	HY	HY	5118160BJC-60	B	Q	11/20/96
    		TI	TMS418160DZ-70	B	F	09/04/96
    		TI	TMS418160DZ-70	C 	Q	11/25/96
    
    54-23623-EA	HIT	HM5118160AJ7	B	Q	11/19/96
    8M(2Mx32)70	HY	HY5118160JC-70	0	N	 
    4*1Mx16	HY	HY5118160BJC-60	B	Q	12/02/96
    		TI	TMS418160DZ-70	B	N	 
    		TI	TMS418160DZ-70	C	Q	12/02/96
    
    
    Venturis FX Qualified EDO Memory
    
    20-47330-17	MIC	MT4C4007JDJ-6	D30	Q
    4M EDO 60ns	MIC	MT4C4007JDJ-6	D37M	Q
    (1Mx32)	NEC	4218165-60	P	Q
    		HY	HY5118164BJC-6	B	Q
    		TOS	TC5118165BJ-60	BA	Q
    
    20-47331-17	MIC	MT4C4007JDJ-6	D30	Q
    8M EDO 60ns	MIC	MT4C4007JDJ-6	D37M	Q
    (2Mx32)	NEC	4218165-60	P	Q
    		HY	HY5118164BJC-6	B	Q
    		TOS	TC5118165BJ-60	BA	Q
    
    20-47332-17	HY	HY5117404BJ-60	B	Q
    16M EDO,60n	MIC	MT4C4M4E8DJ-6	D28	Q
    (4Mx32)	MIC	MT4C4M4E8DJ-6	D42T	Q
    		NEC	4217405-60	A	Q
    		TOS	TC5117405BSJ-60	BC	Q
    
    54-21225-JA	HIT	HM514405CS6	C	Q
    4M EDO,60ns	MIC	MT4C4007JDJ-6	D30	Q
    8*1Mx4	MIC	MT	4C4007JDJ-6	D37M	Q
    		SEC	KM44C1004CJ-6	C	Q
    
    54-21246-JA	HIT	HM5144D5CS6	C	Q
    8M EDO,60ns	MIC	MT4C4007JDJ-6	D30	Q
    16*1Mx4	MIC	MT	4C4007JDJ-6	D37M	Q
    		SEC	KM44C1004CJ-6	C	Q
    		TI	TMS44409DJ-60	E	Q
    
    54-21277-KA	HY	HY5117404AJ-60	A	Q
    32M EDO,60n	HY	HY5117404BJ-60	B 	?
    16*4Mx4	IBM	0117405J1E-60	E	Q
    		MIC	MT4C4M4E8DJ-6	D42T	Q
    		MIT	M5M417405CJ-60	CA	Q
    		NEC	4217405-60	A	Q
    		NEC	4217405-60	L	Q
    		SEC	KM44C4104AK-6	A	Q
    		SEC	KM44C4104BK-6	BC	F
    		SIE	HYB511740BJ-60	ES3	?
    		TI	TMS417409DJ-60	C	?
    		TOS	TC5117405BSJ-60	BC	Q
    		TOS	TC5117405CSJ-60	CA	Q
    
    54-23170-HA	HY	HY5117404AJ-60	A	Q
    16M EDO,60n	IBM	0117405J1D-60	D	Q
    8*4Mx4	IBM	0117405J1E-60	E	Q
    		MIC	MT4C4M4E8DJ-6	D42T	Q
    		MIT	M5M417405CJ-60	CA	Q
    		NEC	4217405-60	A	Q
    		NEC	4217405-60	L	Q
    		SEC	KM44C4104AK-6	A	Q
    		SEC	KM44C4104BK-6	B 	Q
    		TI	TMS417409DJ-60	C	?
    		TOS	TC5117405BSJ-60	BC	Q
    		SIE	HYB5117405BJ-60	ES3	?
    		TOS	TC5117405CSJ-60	CA	Q
    
    54-23623-HA	HY	HY5118164BJC-60	B	Q
    4M EDO,60ns	MIC	MT4C1M16E5DJ-6	D42T	Q
    2*1Mx16	MIT	M5M418165BJ-6	BB	N
    		MIT	M5M418165CJ-6	CA	?
    		NEC	4218165-60	A	Q
    		NEC	4218165-60	P	Q
    		SEC	KM416C1204AJ-6	A	Q
    		SEC	KM416C1204BJ-6	B	Q
    		TI	TMS418169DZ-60	C	Q
    		TOS	TC5118165BJ-60	BA	Q
    
    54-23623-JA	HY	HY5118164BJC-60	B	Q
    8M EDO,60ns	MIC	MT4C1M16E5DJ-6	D42T	Q
    4*1MX16	MIT	M5M418165BJ-6	BB	Q
    		MIT	M5M418165CJ-6	CA	?
    		NEC	4218165-60	A	Q
    		NEC	4218165-60	P	Q
    		SEC	KM416C1204AJ-6	A	Q
    		SEC	KM416C1204BJ-6	B	Q
    		TI	TMS418169DZ-60	C	Q
    		TOS	TC5118165BJ-60	BA	Q
    

    Please note.  I would treat Glen Kelley's reply in .8 as
    DIGITAL CONFIDENTIAL.  This information is worth sharing with
    DIGITAL's VARS at some point, but should not be given out
    freely.
    
    If I had moderator privs, I would modify the title to Glen's reply, 
    but I don't.
    
    Thanks,
    
    /Bill

Bill wrote:
>    Please note.  I would treat Glen Kelley's reply in .8 as
>    DIGITAL CONFIDENTIAL.  This information is worth sharing with
>    DIGITAL's VARS at some point, but should not be given out
>    freely.

  [Glen's reply was a list of qualified vendors]

  Bill,

  This is not related to the subject of this topic, but I couldn't resist to
  reply! The (major!) problem we're facing is that authorized resellers are
  selling SIMMs to our customers, which are often non-qualified material!
  But we can't tell from the SIMM whether it was sold by the reseller or bought
  by the customer on the corner of the street.
  It would be so easy to give the reseller our Qualified vendor list, so at
  least he would be able to distinguish between qualified/ non-qualified.
  But that is not allowed, since the list is confidential!

  The end result is that MCS is replacing the non-qualified SIMMs, and get sent
  to Nijmegen for 'repair', but all we can do is.... SCRAP!!!

  However there is some positive news: we're trying to persuade manufacturing
  (with some succes) to put a sticker on each SIMM. This sticker should
  indicate that this is a qualified SIMM! (As long the PCBU is adhering to the
  QVL as well....)

  Sorry for breaking in to this topic with this issue, but as said I couldn't
  resist....

  regards,
   
     _Wim_

    re: .10 by JGODCL::BLOEMENDAL
    
    I agree with you wholeheartedly and I know the situation about which
    you speak very well.  I work with Glen and the engineer who originated
    the list.  Glen's reply is a quick way to get the info to the DIGITAL
    internal people.  A better sanitized list is in the works to be given
    to those very resellers who are messing up the business through some
    honest mistakes and some not-so-honest intentional substitutions.
    
    Marking the SIMMs would be a start.  This is a large problem that needs
    careful attention to be paid by all levels and with policy driven by
    the VPs.
    
    Keep up the good work, Wim.
    
    Cheers,
    
    /Bill

Hi 

This is not a memory error.

The problem is when I put in 2 PCI card.
If I take out the DE450 it is no problem
or if I use ISA scsi card it is no problem.

Doesn�t this PC supports 2 PCI card ??

Regard Larsa


[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    re: .12 by NETRIX::"[email protected]"
    
    If you had used two identical PCI NIC cards, it would probably have
    been easier to make that work.  If I recall your configuration, you are
    using two different cards that are supposed to use the same driver.  It
    should be okay, but maybe there's some difference in resource
    assignment that the driver doesn't expect.
    
    Have you tried installing the cards in a different sequence or removing
    the cards in the software configuration and letting the system redetect
    them?
    
    I'm just hypothesizing...
    
    /Bill

Hi 

I change the scsi 2940 controller 
to an 2940 ultra wide 
and now it works fine.

Larsa  

[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    You may also be able to use a DE500-XA (but not the DE500-AA). We're
    investigating this problem, but have been unable to reproduce the
    failures. Would you be will to send a complete system to Engineering?
    If you can pry a system away from the customer, it would help
    indetermining the root cause for this. Let me know if you can (send me 
    an email).
    
    regards,
    
    glen kelley
    [email protected]

Gentlemen,

As a reference I have also come across this same problem. The machine is also
a Venturis FX with a de450 and 2940. In fact any PCI card we put into the
machine, we get parity errors on boot up. All components in this machine have
been replaced. Due to time restrictions, and the customer being internal, we
have had to resort to using an ISA ethernet card.

Steve Kaniowski
Regional Support
Australia
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    We have a new fix for this problem:
    
                                Rise Part#       old rev   new rev
    
    desktop without NIC		54-24506-01/02	 B02/03    B03/04
    desktop with NIC		54-24508-01  NO ECO YET - for Celebris FX
    tower without multimedia	54-24546-01	 B02       B03
    tower with multimedia	54-24546-02	 C03       C04
    
    If you are experiencing this problem and there are NO OTHER CAUSES FOR
    THE ERRORS, then change the riser to the latest rev (as listed above).
    This is ONLY for those systems that meet the requirement:
    
    PCI SCSI 2940N
    
    AND
    
    PCI NIC (DE500, DE450, DE435)
    
    Regards,
    
    glen kelley
    pcbu desktop support