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Conference ssdevo::hsz40_product

Title:HSZ40 Product Conference
Moderator:SSDEVO::EDMONDS
Created:Mon Apr 11 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:902
Total number of notes:3319

894.0. "urgent, rz26 + hsz50 +BA356" by SIOG::J_LONG () Wed May 28 1997 13:20

    I urgently need to know if a HSZ50 with a BA356 will support an RZ26
    REV T392, it was installed into the storage shelf and none of the
    RZ29's in the same shelf would work. Is there a problem with the
    revision of the disk or is it mixing wide and narrow disks in the same
    shelf. Can the above work ?
    
    Regards and thanks.
    
    NB: I am aware that the latest rev of RZ26 is T392A but cannot upgrade
    the firmware and still bring down the system is the combination is
    wrong. It's a live 24 *356 operation.
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894.1Should work..SSDEVO::RMCLEANWed May 28 1997 13:5614
>>    I urgently need to know if a HSZ50 with a BA356 will support an RZ26
>>    REV T392, it was installed into the storage shelf and none of the
>>    RZ29's in the same shelf would work. Is there a problem with the
>>    revision of the disk or is it mixing wide and narrow disks in the same
>>    shelf. Can the above work ?
>>    
>>    Regards and thanks.
>>    
>>    NB: I am aware that the latest rev of RZ26 is T392A but cannot upgrade
>>    the firmware and still bring down the system is the combination is
>>    wrong. It's a live 24 *356 operation.

Rev T392 is supported for a RZ26-VA. The release notes say that you must have
an 8-bit I/O module for wide drives.
894.2RZ26: Wide Compatible?UTRTSC::VISSERWed May 28 1997 15:2319
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    Your RZ29B's are -VW's (if I correctly understood), mounted in a BA356.
    I assume THIS works correctly!
    
    If this stopped working correctly, AFTER installing the RZ26-VA AND you
    can see de RZ26, THEN you can be pretty sure your RZ26-VA has a FLEX
    inside the SBB, which is NOT wide-compatible. It will ground some of
    the bits in the UPPER-byte of the wide drives, what they do not like.
    
    There are revision tables around, stating what rev your RZ26-VA should
    have to gave a wide-compatible flex.
    
    Do NOT replace this drive as defective! The customer bought it as
    NARROW and with that functionality and MCS will NOT upgrade him to
    wide-compatible for free.
    
    			Jan Visser
    
894.3MSE1::PCOTEpress one now for personal nameFri May 30 1997 08:287

>    can see de RZ26, THEN you can be pretty sure your RZ26-VA has a FLEX
>    inside the SBB, which is NOT wide-compatible. It will ground some of

     What is the purpose of a "FLEX" ?  I thought that all RZxx-VA devices
     were all wide-compatible (but not wide capable).
894.4KERNEL::LOANEComfortably numb!!Fri May 30 1997 10:3311
>     What is the purpose of a "FLEX" ?  I thought that all RZxx-VA devices
>     were all wide-compatible (but not wide capable).

    The  flex  connects  the  96-pin connector on the back of the SBB to 
    the power/scsi connectors (or SCA connector) on the bare  drive.  It 
    also  has  the PAL that drives the Fault leds and and passes SCSI ID 
    to the drive. The issue comes when OLD NARROW drives with OLD  8-Bit 
    flexes  (which  obeyed  the SCSI standard and grounded unused signal 
    pins) are plugged into Wide shelves (where they ground the  upper  8 
    data  bits  & parity. There's a matrix which defines what rev flexes 
    are wide-friendly....Bill Bassett probably remembers it!!
894.5thanks ChrisMSE1::PCOTEpress one now for personal nameFri May 30 1997 15:080
894.6Time to get rid of them anyway.SIOG::J_LONGFri May 30 1997 15:147
    Bad news fast is better than no news slowly, thanks for the
    clarification.
    
    Regards
    John Long