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Conference ssdevo::hsz40_product

Title:HSZ40 Product Conference
Moderator:SSDEVO::EDMONDS
Created:Mon Apr 11 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:902
Total number of notes:3319

761.0. "HSZ40 Battery failure" by VNABRW::PUTZENLECHNE () Thu Feb 06 1997 06:54

    Hi!
    
    Again one questions about RAIDsets when the battery fails on
    HSZ40:
    
    1. Question:
    
    Is there any difference beetween a UNIT (RAID or Mirrorset)
    that have Writeback-Cache enabled a UNIT (RAID or Mirror)
    which is set to NOWRITEBACK when a Battery fails.
    
    As far as i understand now with HSOF 2.7 both UNITS will
    go INOPERATIVE. Is it possible that one UNIT stays online
    a little longer than the other?
    
    2. Question:
    
    How does the CACHE_POLICY take effekt with V3.0?
    I can not imagine that there will be any difference
    if CACHE_POLICY is A or B, in both cases the unit will failover to the
    other (good) controller or not?
    Is there a recomended setting for CACHE_POLICY in dual-redundant
    configurations with HSOF 3.0?
    
    HELMUT 
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761.1Cache Policy and selecting NOWRITEBACKSSDEVO::THOMPSONPaul Thompson, Colorado SpringsFri Feb 07 1997 11:0141
See answers by the >>>

    Hi!
    
    Again one questions about RAIDsets when the battery fails on
    HSZ40:
    
    1. Question:
    
    Is there any difference beetween a UNIT (RAID or Mirrorset)
    that have Writeback-Cache enabled a UNIT (RAID or Mirror)
    which is set to NOWRITEBACK when a Battery fails.

>>>	Even when NOWRITEBACK is selected, RAID and Mirror sets require that WBC
>>>	be operable.  If WBC is inoperable because the battery has failed, RAID
>>>	and Mirror sets are inaccessible through that controller.
    
    As far as i understand now with HSOF 2.7 both UNITS will
    go INOPERATIVE. Is it possible that one UNIT stays online
    a little longer than the other?

>>>	See above answer.
    
    2. Question:
    
    How does the CACHE_POLICY take effekt with V3.0?
    I can not imagine that there will be any difference
    if CACHE_POLICY is A or B, in both cases the unit will failover to the
    other (good) controller or not?
    Is there a recomended setting for CACHE_POLICY in dual-redundant
    configurations with HSOF 3.0?

>>>	No changes to cache policy took place in 3.0.  Cache policy has no impact
>>>	on failover.

>>>	If you want to be certain that RAID and Mirror sets will only work when
>>>	the battery is fully charged, select cache policy "A".
    
    HELMUT 

>>>	Paul
761.2Thanks! (explanation)ATZIS2::PUTZENLECHNEwherever is fun, there's always ALPHAFri Feb 14 1997 07:5210
    Thank You for your explanations.
    
    I do aggree that CACHE_POLICY has no effect for failover, but my
    opinion is that with V3.0 it makes no sense definiung a CACHE_POLICY for
    dual-redundant controllers, since in every case of a battery-failover
    the controller will shutdown and units will failover to the other
    controller regardless of the CACHE_POLICY-setting. That is why with
    V3.0 CACHE_POLICY only is usefull for single-controllers.
    
    Helmut
761.3Not quite trueSSDEVO::RMCLEANFri Feb 14 1997 09:045
Not strictly true.  Should you replace batteries on both controllers there is
some risk that neither controller will have fully charged batteries.  Cache
Policy B permits 10 hours of access to the drives before it declares a problem.
This gives you time to charge the batteries.  Since with the HSZ50 you have
both batteries as a FRU there is a lot of use of a different policy.
761.4OTOOA::JPONDWed Mar 26 1997 08:1311
    Could you elaborate on this statement in -.1:
    
    > Since with the HSZ50 you have
    > both batteries as a FRU there is a lot of use of a different policy.
    
    How does the HSZ50 act, with its different cache and battery
    architectures (and its different firmware), in relation to how the
    HSZ40 acts, when it comes to battery failures and the setting of cache
    policy?
    
    Jim
761.5The code is identical the batteries are packaged differentlySSDEVO::RMCLEANWed Mar 26 1997 08:341
The batteries are different the code is exactly the same.