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| 387.1 | | SMURF::WALLACE | Life's a beach, then you dive! | Tue Apr 15 1997 15:50 | 4 |
| The only DOC set currently available via network download is
DIGITAL UNIX V4.0B
All other doc sets should be ordered from the SSB directly.
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| 387.2 | What a shame ! But where is v4.0b ? | PANTER::MARTIN | Be vigilant... | Wed Apr 16 1997 05:38 | 16 |
| What a shame !
As a Unix support engineer I found usefull to have the documentation
online, picking what I needed (for the respecting versions) in order
to tell customers precisely which chapters/pages they need to consults.
We cannot have complete documentation sets for each Unix version, this
consumes a lot of space which we don't have anymore 8-( !!!
Ok, so where is the pointer to v4.0B postscript Unix doc ?
Cheers,
============================
Alain MARTIN/SSG Switzerland
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| 387.3 | | SMURF::WALLACE | Life's a beach, then you dive! | Wed Apr 16 1997 12:36 | 6 |
| The V4.0B documentation software is located at
http://webkits.zk3.dec.com
Select "DIGITAL UNIX Products" and then follow the links.
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| 387.4 | oskits was OK. Please do the same with webkits. | ATYISA::MAILLARD | Benoit Maillard | Wed Apr 16 1997 14:11 | 17 |
| re .1
>All other doc sets should be ordered from the SSB directly.
As an old ORDS/oskits user, I am sorry to say that this seems to be a return to
the dark ages. I remember that ORDS was set up to avoid us in the field to wait
for SSB deliveries, and also to give access to some non-SSB information.
Postscript docs on ORDS/oskits gave access to a very valuable information,
in a decently printable format. Like Alain, I think we are loosing a valuable
tool.
Is the removal of ps docs a definitive decision ? or is it only a question of
disk space ?
Benoit Maillard
Unix ambassador
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| 387.5 | Some explanation | SMURF::WALLACE | Life's a beach, then you dive! | Wed Apr 16 1997 17:12 | 33 |
| re .4
>I remember that ORDS was set up to avoid us in the field
>to wait for SSB deliveries, and also to give access to some
>non-SSB information.
This concept has not changed. Webkits still provides
pre-deliverables to sites such as yourself. We will be
offering even more software than was possible with OSKITS.
>Postscript docs on ORDS/oskits gave access to a very valuable
>information, in a decently printable format.
Documentation in postscript format for DIGITAL UNIX operating
systems can be found under the documentation link on the WEBKITS
web page. Any product (OS, AP, or DOC) that has been delivered
to SSB for revenue shipping should be ordered directly from them.
OSKITS was never intended to become another SSB.
>Is the removal of ps docs a definitive decision
In short, past products that have been delivered to SSB, yes;
current products and recently submitted products to the SSB, no.
We intend to hold on to products as long as possible before we have
a need to recycle products due to disk space.
We are curious however, exactly which version of the postscripts you
are looking for?
Brenda Wulf
Jon Wallace
WEBKITS Development Team
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| 387.6 | But it's only what's in CD distrib... | PANTER::MARTIN | Be vigilant... | Thu Apr 17 1997 09:10 | 22 |
| The documentation I found on webkits: looks to me what is
on the standard Digital Unix Distribution CDROMs !
And I'm trying to download it and it seems you transfert the
entire CDROM content (184860k) instead if selecting the book
you just need ! Time and space waste....
So there is very little added value, I guess most of us do have
the Unix distrib anyway !
Again what I found useful was the fact that I can have available
the complete Unix Documentation for all the versions ( I would
say that releases older that v3.0 are not anymore intersting...)
but if by any chance we miss a book (it disappered for some reason
you can imagine) we still have the oportunity to get a copy very
easily !!!
Hope you understand what we need in the field...
Cheers,
=========================================
Alain MARTIN/DEC Unix Support Switzerland
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| 387.7 | | SMURF::WALLACE | Life's a beach, then you dive! | Thu Apr 17 1997 10:42 | 26 |
| Again, please tell us exactly which files you were downloading that
you want to see distributed again. Looking at the DOCUMENTATION
Cdrom, the following postscript files are available. Are these the
documents you are requesting?
FILE NAME BOOK TITLE
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AA-Q8YUA-TET1.ps.Z DECwindows Companion to the OSF/Motif
Style Guide
AA-Q8YTA-TET1.ps.Z DECwindows Motif Guide to Application
Programming
AA-Q8YSA-TET1.ps.Z DECwindows Extensions to Motif
BindOperationsGuide.ps.Z Operations Guide for BIND
icccm.PS.Z Inter-Client Communication Conventions
Manual
icccm.idx.PS.Z (index for ICCCM manual)
xlib.PS.Z Xlib - C Language X Interface
xlib.idx.PS.Z (index for Xlib manual)
xlfd.PS.Z X Logical Font Description Conventions
intrinsics.PS.Z X Toolkit Intrinsics - C Language
Interface
intr.idx.PS.Z (index for Intrinsics manual)
proto.PS.Z X Window System Protocol
proto.idx.PS.Z (index for Protocol manual)
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| 387.8 | System and Network Management doc... | PANTER::MARTIN | Be vigilant... | Mon Apr 21 1997 04:05 | 13 |
| No, not these, they are on the CDROM distrib !
What I might be looking for are the books from the
"System and Network Management kit" such as Kernel
Debugging, LSM, System Admin, System Tuning, etc.
As I said, some of these from our library disappeared
and we cannot afford to keep all of these for each
Unix version (not enough space...)
Thanks,
============================
Alain MARTIN/SSG Switzerland
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| 387.9 | | ATYISA::MAILLARD | Benoit Maillard | Mon Apr 21 1997 12:32 | 93 |
| re .7:
> Again, please tell us exactly which files you were downloading that
> you want to see distributed again. Looking at the DOCUMENTATION
> Cdrom, the following postscript files are available. Are these the
> documents you are requesting?
No.
To be clear: I am missing the postscript versions of the full doc set, the one
that can only be ordered on paper from SSB. By removing those files from OSKITS
and not putting them back on webkits, you made us loose a very valuable source
of information.
Benoit Maillard
Unix ambassador
PS:
Here is the list for Digital UNIX V4:
FILE NAME BOOK TITLE
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AA-QTLMA-TE.ps.Z Release Notes
AA-QTLLA-TET1.ps.Z Technical Overview
AA-Q0U2L-TE.ps.Z Installation Guide
AA-PY8BA-TE.ps.Z OSF/Motif Programmer's Guide
AA-PY8CA-TE.ps.Z OSF/Motif Style Guide
AA-Q8YUA-TET1.ps.Z DECwindows Companion to the OSF/Motif
Style Guide
AA-Q8YTA-TET1.ps.Z DECwindows Motif Guide to Application
Programming
AA-Q8YSA-TET1.ps.Z DECwindows Extensions to Motif
AA-Q15WA-TE.ps.Z Developing Applications for the
Display PostScript System
AA-Q0R4C-TET1.ps.Z Writing Software for the International Market
AA-PQT0D-TET1.ps.Z Guide to Prestoserve
AA-PS2ED-TET1.ps.Z Software License Management
AA-Q917B-TE.ps.Z DECwindows User's Guide
AA-PS2HD-TET1.ps.Z Command and Shell User's Guide
AA-QTLPA-TE.ps.Z CDE Companion
AA-PS2RD-TET1.ps.Z System Administration
AA-PS2SC-TE.ps.Z Network Administration
AA-Q3NCE-TE.ps.Z Logical Storage Manager
AA-PS2TE-TET1.ps.Z Kernel Debugging
AA-PS2WD-TET1.ps.Z Network Programmer's Guide
AA-Q0R5B-TET1.ps.Z Programming with ONC RPC
AA-PS30D-TET1.ps.Z Programmer's Guide
AA-QTLTA-TE.ps.Z DEC C Language Manual
AA-PS31D-TET1.ps.Z Assembly Language Programmer's Guide
AA-PS32D-TET1.ps.Z Programming Support Tools
AA-PS33D-TET1.ps.Z Guide to Realtime Programming
AA-QDP5C-TE.ps.Z Asynchronous Transfer Mode
AA-PUBXC-TKT1.ps.Z Digital Portable Mathematics Library
AA-Q2DPC-TKT1.ps.Z Guide to DECthreads
AA-PY8AC-TET1.ps.Z Digital UNIX Calling Standard for AXP Systems
AA-PZ7EE-TET1.ps.Z Guide to the Ladebug Debugger
AA-Q0R3E-TET1.ps.Z System Tuning and Performance Management
AA-QTLRA-TE.ps.Z Performance Manager
AA-QTLSA-TE.ps.Z DECevent Translation and Reporting Utility
AA-PS3LE-TE.ps.Z Sharing Software on a Local Area Network
BindOperationsGuide.ps.Z Bind Operations Guide
AA-Q0R2D-TET1.ps.Z Security
AA-Q7RNB-TET1.ps.Z X Window System Environment
x_window_system.ps.Z X Window System: The Complete Reference to
Xlib, X Protocol, ICCCM, XFLD
AA-Q7RPB-TE.ps.Z Writing Device Drivers: Advanced Topics
AA-PUBWD-TE.ps.Z Writing Device Drivers: Reference
AA-PUBVD-TE.ps.Z Writing Device Drivers: Tutorial
AA-PS3GD-TET1.ps.Z Writing Device Drivers for the SCSI/CAM
Architecture Interfaces
AA-Q0R6C-TET1.ps.Z Writing EISA and ISA Bus Drivers
AA-Q7RQC-TE.ps.Z Writing PCI Bus Drivers
AA-PS3HD-TET1.ps.Z Writing TURBOchannel Device Drivers
AA-Q0R7E-TET1.ps.Z Writing VMEbus Drivers
AA-QTM6A-TET1.ps.Z Documentation Overview, Glossary, and
Master Index
REFSec1Vol1.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 1 Volume 1
REFSec1Vol2.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 1 Volume 2
REFSec1Vol3.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 1 Volume 3
REFSec1Vol4.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 1 Volume 4
REFSec2.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 2
REFSec3Vol1.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 3 Volume 1
REFSec3Vol2.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 3 Volume 2
REFSec3Vol3.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 3 Volume 3
REFSec3Vol4.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 3 Volume 4
REFSec3Vol5.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 3 Volume 5
REFSec3Vol6.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 3 Volume 6
REFSec4Vol1.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 4 Volume 1
REFSec4Vol2.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 4 Volume 2
REFSec5.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 5
REFSec7.ps.Z Reference Pages Section 7
REFSec8Vol1.ps.Z Reference Pages Sections 8 and 1m Volume 1
REFSec8Vol2.ps.Z Reference Pages Sections 8 and 1m Volume 2
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| 387.10 | Benoit is right | MINNY::rahel.zuo.dec.com::dolder | | Mon Apr 28 1997 10:17 | 10 |
| Benoit is exactly right (hi Benoit, good to see you still around).
Our daily work often requires us to lookup some information for
some DU version and this info only can be found in the full
doc set. We by far have not the shelf space to held a single
(not to speak a full) copy of the full doc set.
rgds
-matthias
UNIX Ambassador
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| 387.11 | | SMURF::WALLACE | Life's a beach, then you dive! | Tue Apr 29 1997 17:38 | 5 |
| The documentation group has committed to making the .ps files available
and we should have a pointer to them, from the webkits web page,
shortly.
Thank you for your patience.
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| 387.12 | DOC Books back online! | SMURF::WALLACE | Life's a beach, then you dive! | Wed Apr 30 1997 13:13 | 4 |
| Links now exist for individual HTML and PostScript books pertaining to
Digital UNIX Documentation, from V2.0 to current.
Please start your search at: http://webkits.zk3.dec.com
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| 387.13 | great ! | MINNY::16.184.48.153::WorkBenchUser | | Fri May 02 1997 19:01 | 11 |
| wow! Now i'm impressed.
Thanks for making this possible in such short time.
'webkits' definitely is going to be one of my favorite url's
and really helps to make my job.
rgds
-matthias
M.Dolder
UNIX Ambassador, Switzerland
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| 387.14 | Merci ! | ATYV00::MAILLARD | Benoit Maillard | Mon May 05 1997 12:20 | 8 |
| Thank you for listening and taking the time to set up webkits
like it is now. The kits and docs access is now easier and gives
more info than ORDS/OSKITS did.
Regards,
Benoit
UNIX Ambassador, France
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| 387.15 | We're reasonable people | SMURF::WALLACE | Life's a beach, then you dive! | Mon May 05 1997 13:45 | 1 |
| You're welcome.
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