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75.1 | | DKAS::KOLKER | Conan the Librarian | Thu Jun 11 1992 20:53 | 8 |
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Although the behaviour of Stanton lent itself to suspicion, e.g. the
quick roundup of the suspects and a drumhead trial, I know of no
substatial evidence that there were any Union officials involved in the
assasination. It is not clear to me, just how Stanton or any other cabinet
member benefitted from Licoln's death.
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75.2 | Radical Repub's benefitted | XCUSME::MACINTYRE | | Fri Jun 12 1992 10:29 | 18 |
| The radical elements of the Republican party opposed the generous terms
Grant offered to Lee and also forced Sherman to harden his terms to
Johnson. Many of them were motivated by a desire for revenge against
the South. The harsh measures of the Reconstruction followed those
desires and Pres. Johnson was within a single vote of being tossed out,
largely because the radical considered him to be soft on the South.
Republicans ruled the nation for several terms following the war.
These things may indicate that the radical republicans indeed benefit
from Lincoln's death.
However, I know of no creditable evidence that a conspiracy beyond
those in Booth's group existed.
Marv
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75.3 | A word for the Radicals | MACNAS::TJOYCE | | Mon Jun 15 1992 10:31 | 26 |
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Re: .2
While the Radicals did espouse a hard line with the South, it
is not fair to say that they were motivated with a desire for
revenge against the South.
Many were also motivated with a desire for justice for the
black men and women who had formerly been slaves. Reconstruction
WAS harsh because the South persisted in maintaining social
control of blacks, and keeping them in "peonage" with lesser
access to education or voting rights.
Johnson was a narrow-minded individual, who cleaved
to what he believed was Lincoln's policy at a point in time.
He utterly lacked Old Abe's flexibility and ability to
compromise advantageously. He was the author of many of his
own misfortunes. When he started his Presidency, he had the
goodwill of the Radicals.
The Radical Republicans have had a bad press. They are only
now being recognised as what they were - men who struggled
to liberate the blacks, which of course carried a measure
of distaste for the white South, but who ultimately failed.
Toby
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75.4 | YES - There was a conspiracy | WMOIS::MACK_J | | Mon Jun 15 1992 11:28 | 64 |
| There's long existed a theory that someone in Lincoln's Cabinet
was involved. This was given some credibility (SP?) by his own
son, Robert Todd Lincoln in the mid 1920's (1926 I think). It
seems that Robert Lincoln was either living with friends or
friends were visiting him at that time. They discovered him
burning some papers and when asked what he was burning his
reply was "some of my fathers papers". The friend then said
"for history's sake you mustn't" to which he is reputed to
have replied "for history's sake I must because they implicate
a member of my father's cabinet in his death." I cannot fathom
why Robert Lincoln wouldn't want to divulge the information,
however, why do lots of people do lots of things?
Many continually point towards Stanton as a suspect, although
I did read an account where Mary Todd Lincoln herself was also
suspected by that author. (Can't really recall where I read that
though). Stanton's activities did have some rather parculiar aspects
to them. For example he refused to let a man Lincoln requested as
a bodyguard for that evening go with Lincoln (because Lincoln
had seen this fellow break fire pokers over his own forearm) saying
that he (Stanton) had work for the man that evening. However he
sent him home quite early enough to have been able to accompany
Lincoln. Stanton did act as a Military Dictator for several hours
immediately following the assassination attempt and some of his
moves were likewise suspect. For example he closed all bridges
leading out of Washington immediately EXCEPT the one bridge which
Booth and Harold ultimately took. One could suspect Secretary of
State Seward except that he was seriously wounded by Lewis Paine
that same night while in bed. It was clear from the trial and
evidence that the plan was to assassinate Steward, Lincoln and
Vice President Johnson. Now Johnson's assassin, George Atzerod
was probably the absolute weakness one, so could that have
been pre-planned? Atzerod never even made the attempt, although
he was hung anyways for being part of the conspiracy that could
be proved. Likewise David Herold, Lewis Paine and Mary Surratt
were all hung for their part. There's a lot of argument around
that Mary Surratt was a victim versus a conspirator though. A good
book, still in print and available in Paperback from most good
book stores is "The Lincoln Conspiracy". That one does tend to
lean towards Stanton as I recall. It also proposes Northern
Businessmen as being part of a conspiracy as well. As to who would
benefit, well, those who favored a harsh surrender terms, as many
felt Lincoln's proposal for healing the nation was too lenient
(Stanton among them).
Also, obviously, Andrew Johnson now became President of the U.S.
Considering some of the recent books on some of our presidents
(LBJ, JFK, and of course Richard Nixon) that might not be as
far fetched as you'd initially think, although Johnson, as noted,
was more in favor of Lincoln's reconstruction policies.
To get back to the original question though, yes, there was
a clear conspiracy. This involved John Wilkes Booth, Lewis Paine,
George Atzerod, John Surratt, David Herold and, based solely on
her conviction (not my opinion though) Mary Surratt. Those names
were linked, and for want of a better word, 'proven' during the
trial of Paine, Atzerod, Herold and Mrs. Surratt. Several others
were also found guilty and sentenced to prison (Dr. Samual Mudd
and Ned Spangler I believe) but later pardoned. Insofar as how
high up in government, there may or may not have been involvement,
I can only guess and no one has ever really proven others that
I know of.
Hope that's helpful
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75.5 | Henry Douglas | NEMAIL::RASKOB | Mike Raskob at OFO | Mon Jun 15 1992 12:02 | 25 |
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A couple of interesting notes on the assasination and trial that I
picked up from the memoirs of Henry Kydd Douglas, a man from Maryland
who served as one of Stonewall Jackson's staff.
Douglas noted in his diary, when he heard the news of Lincoln's
assasination, that it was going to mean trouble for the South - which
turned out to be prophetic. It throws an interesting light on how one
determines the probable outcomes of an action, because Booth clearly
thought (if Booth can be said to have thought clearly... ;^} ) that he
was avenging the South and destroying one of its enemies.
Douglas was present at the trial. He was a combination
witness/accused, because an effort was made to link officers of the
Stonewall Brigade of the ANV with the assasination (based entirely on
the unsupported testimony of a man who deserted from the AoP, joined
the ANV, and the deserted from there - when recaptured by the Federals,
he told his "conspiricy" story). Douglas' opinion was that the trial
was a farce - that no attempt to follow proper procedure was made. He
also thought it was an _unnecessary_ farce, because enough evidence
existed against Booth and the others, except Mrs. Surrat, to convict
them. He was storngly of the opinion that Mrs. Surrat was innocent.
MikeR
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75.6 | first black woman President? | HARDY::SCHWEIKER | though it means an extra mile... | Mon Jun 15 1992 20:31 | 9 |
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My father put a new spin on Reconstruction for me. The history he
learned was that Johnson didn't have enough support to govern, and
the real power was the Speaker of the House, Thaddeus Stevens. And
that furthermore, Stevens got his Reconstruction policy from his
black maidservant!
Any votes for him as conspirator?
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75.7 | In Defence of Thad Stevens | MACNAS::TJOYCE | | Tue Jun 16 1992 07:11 | 36 |
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I find something distasteful in the title and content of the
last note.
Racial slurs about abolitionists or Radical Republican were common
e.g that they had black mistresses, or that they had black
grandparents etc. etc. These slanders were in general circulation,
however they were mostly false.
Thaddeus Stevens was not Speaker of the House (as far as I can recall)
but he was the leader of the Radicals there. In many respects, in
particular his advocacy of Civil Rights for blacks, he was a century
ahead of his time. He consistently opposed Johnson's "softness" towards
ex-Confederates. As I said above, Johnson was a cantankerous and
contrary man who set his face against any compromise with his
opponents.
However the Radical Republicans were always in a minority in both
houses. For the constitiutional amendments and laws they proposed,
they had to put together majorities based on compromises with
more conservative members. Hence a lot of their work was later
undone by the Supreme Court and Congress itself. Blacks lost
voting rights, and racial segregation was introduced in the South
without serious opposition from Congress.
Even if Stevens had a black mistress or wife, there is no reason
to believe that is was her influence that caused him to take the
stand he did. Nor is there any grounds to make him a co-conspirator
with a disgruntled Confederate synpathizer like Booth.
There is a counter-picture of Stevens (who is usually presented as a
malevolent and evil man) as an enlightened and progressive individual,
albeit sarcastic and savage towards opponents, who left instructions
that he be buried in a pauper's grave to symbolise his sympathies
with the poor and powerless.
Toby
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75.8 | A Stevens story | MACNAS::TJOYCE | | Thu Jun 18 1992 07:02 | 9 |
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My favourite Stevens story tells how at the end of a long
speech, when he had to give the floor to an adversary, he
introduced him thus:
"I now yield the floor to my friend, ********, who will make
a few feeble remarks...."
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