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Conference smurf::civil_war

Title:The American Civil War
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Created:Mon Jul 15 1991
Last Modified:Tue Apr 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:141
Total number of notes:2129

59.0. "War Friendships" by MACNAS::TJOYCE () Mon Jan 20 1992 10:57

    
    While much has been written on the Lee-Jackson partnership in the
    Army of Northern Virginia, little attention has been paid (it 
    seems to me) to an even more significant partnerhsip on the Union 
    side: I mean Ulysses Grant and William T. Sherman.
    
    These men, contemporaries at West Point and acquaintances in the 
    Old Army, became fast friends early in the war, and friends they
    stayed for life. Grant was impressed by the way Sherman swiftly
    responded to his requests for re-inforcements while campaigning in 
    Kentucky, though technically Sherman outranked him. 
    
    Sherman summed it up: "I stuck by Grant when he was drunk, and he
    stuck by me when I was crazy, and we have stuck by each other ever
    since". This probably refers to Sherman's nervous breakdown early
    in the war, and to Grant's demotion after Shiloh, when he despaired
    and almost resigned, but was dissuaded by his friend.
    
    Under Grant's command, Sherman went from being "crazy" to commander
    of all forces in the west, and victor in the war's most technically
    difficult and decisive campaign. Both men constantly wrote to each
    other, and were always on terms of easy familiarity.
    
    The friendship and genius of the two men flowered in 1864-65 when
    they led the major campaigns to strike at the Confederacy's army and
    heartland - it highlights the tragedy for the South that the
    partnership of its two foremost commanders never had a similar
    opportunity to bear fruit.
    
    Another thing is that Lee and Jackson were hardly "friends" -
    could anyone be friends with Jackson? And are there any other
    friendships formed before, during or after the war that are
    of interest? (I know Sherman himself became friendly with Joe
    Johnston).
    
    Toby
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59.1Sherman - JohnstonOGOMTS::RICKERLest We Forget, 1861 - 1865Tue Jan 21 1992 02:4412
    
    	Sherman and Joe Johnston were in fact good friends. Johnston
    surrendered to Sherman in the Carolinas on April 26, 1865, in
    spite of Davis' orders to move south and continue the fighting.
    	Sherman was blasted by the politicians in Washington for giving
    Johnston's army such liberal terms at the surrender.
    	Sherman and Johnston stayed in contact after the war. Johnston,
    ironically, died a few days after Sherman's funeral from pneumonia
    contracted, from standing hatless in the rain at the funeral of the
    man who had cost him his command.
    
    						The Alabama Slammer
59.2friendsELMAGO::WRODGERSI'm the NRA - Sic Semper TyrannisTue Jan 21 1992 14:3113
    Hood and Pap Thomas, both Kentuckians by birth, formed a very close
    friendship after the war.  It was rather a negatively-inspired
    friendship; it was brought about by the conviction of both men that
    their governments and former comrades had slighted them.  Especially in
    the case of Thomas, I think, that feeling was justified.
    
    Lee and Longstreet were very close during and after the war, in spite
    of the storm that blew up over Longstreet's analysis of what had gone
    wrong at Gettysburg.  I believe that Lee and Gordon were fast friends,
    too.
    
    
    Wess
59.3Couple moreOGOMTS::RICKERLest We Forget, 1861 - 1865Wed Jan 22 1992 01:4311
    
    	I do believe also that Longstreet and Pickett were very close
    friends. Not withstanding the historical story of Longstreet's
    reluctance to send forward Pickett's Division after the cannonade,
    but, his reluctance to send forward his friends division on such a
    suicide charge, he couldn't even speak the order.
    
    	There was also a strong mutual respect/friendship between J.E.B.
    Stuart and the "gallant Pelham".
    
    						The Alabama Slammer
59.4MacphersonMACNAS::TJOYCEWed Jan 22 1992 07:0010
    
    One man who was greatly liked by both sides was General J. Macpherson,
    who led the Army of Tennessee and was killed at Atlanta. Sherman
    shed tears over the body and on the other side old army friends of
    Macpherson greatly regretted the death. One of these was Hood
    himself, who recalled how Macpherson had always assisted him in
    his studies at West Point. Macpherson had been top of the class,
    with Hood occupying the bottom position.
    
    Toby
59.5Armstead and HancockDKAS::KOLKERThu Apr 30 1992 17:224
    what about Armstead and Win Hancock. Didn't they have dinner on day one
    or two of the Battle of Gettysburg?
    
    
59.6Armistead and HancockMACNAS::TJOYCEWed May 27 1992 10:0816
    
    I don't think they had dinner ..... Armistead was killed during
    Pickett's Charge, and they would not have had much chance before
    that!!
    
    You are probably referring to the last Old Army dinner held in 
    California in 1861, when both these men attended. They were close 
    friends, as were many of the officers, and afterwards there were a 
    few sorrowful partings.
    
    Lee and General John Sedgwick were also close friends, Lee was
    particularly close to Sedgwick's wife (with of course no
    improper conduct on either side.) Sedgwick was killed at
    Spotsylvania.
    
    Toby
59.7A sad link ....MACNAS::TJOYCEWed May 27 1992 10:1325
    
    An odd linkage between Lincoln, Davis, Lee, Sherman and Hardee
    occurred to me as I wrote the last note. All had a similar
    experience during the war ..... what was it?
    
    
    
    All suffered the death of a son or daughter.
    
    Lincoln lost his son Willie to fever.
    
    Davis had a son killed when he fell from a window in the 
    Southern White House.
    
    Sherman's son Willie Jnr. died of fever in the winter of 1863-64.
    
    Lee lost a beloved daughter.
    
    Hardee's 17-year old son was killed in battle. His was the 
    only loss to the war.
    
    Grant was luckier because his son Ulysses Jnr fell sick at
    the same time as Sherman's son, but survived.
    
    Toby