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26.1 | Roots .... | DEMON::ADAM | | Fri Aug 16 1991 17:26 | 20 |
| I am also interested in this battle, and in the "human" side of
Civil War history. I think one of the reasons why "The Civil War"
TV series was so popular was because it treated this aspect
of the war with such thoroughness and empathy.
Both my great-grandfather and great-great-grandfather fought at
Shiloh, for the Confederacy. They were Thomas Reeder and
Thomas Jefferson Reeder, aged 14 and 36 respectively, from
a village near Tupelo, Mississippi.
Like many farmers, and sons of farmers, they heard of the
impending battle near the Tennessee border, and quickly went
to join the action.
But unlike so many others killed or lost there, they lived to
pass down their memories and also a couple of fine photographs
of them in their grey uniforms.
Ingrid Adam
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26.2 | Just visited Shiloh | ODIXIE::WITMAN | THIS_SPACE_BEING_REFURBISED_FOR_YOUR_FUTURE_ENJOYMENT. | Fri Aug 23 1991 15:22 | 15 |
| I have just returned from visiting this battlefield. I'll check my
information to see if it lists known dead/captured etc.
I have visited many of the CW battlefields and found the one at Shiloh
to be the most impressive in size and attempt to provide data on the
battles that took place.
Driving around in our car we couldn't help but wonder how difficult it
would have been to move canon and horses through that turraine(sp).
They claim that there was the largest assembly of canon ever to rid
the North from the Hornets Nest. It must have been an awesome job.
For those who have never visited this battlefield you have to want to
go there to find it. The route from Huntsville, Ala. wasn't very
direct.
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26.3 | The Armies at Shiloh | OGOMTS::RICKER | Lest We Forget, 1861 - 1865 | Wed Oct 30 1991 04:19 | 43 |
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The Confederates in the battle had two major advantages - superior
army structure and the advantage of surprise attack. The Union armies
had three advantages - more veteran troops, better artillery, and more
men. Because of the way the battle was fought, each side lost some of
its advantages - Beauregard's battle plans and Johnston's death hurt
Confederate organization, and the element of surprise wore off; on
the Union side, the heavy terrain restricted artillery use, and many
of the more veteran Union troops were overrun by the Confederate
surprise attack.
All thses factors point to a close battle, with the Confederates
having their best chance to win before superior Union strength
arrived to turn the battle against them.
All three of the armies at Shiloh - Grant's, Buell's and
Johnston's - were mostly composed of green troops. A major part of
only one, Grant's, had previously seen significant combat. Shiloh
was the first major battle in the West and neither side used an
organization of the kind employed later for most of the war.
The most significant fact about all the armies at Shiloh is that
their regiments were big. Averaging well over 500 men, they were
simply too large for the inexperienced commanders of the day to
lead effectively. Later in the war most regiments averaged around
400 men in battle, due to losses in battle and from disease. This
number seems to have worked much more efficently than the 1,000
men a regiment was supposed to have.
Another point to note is that batteries were not centralized into
reserves or large battalions, but were dispersed among all the
brigades. This practice was in line with period doctrine, and greatly
limited the effectiveness of the artillery by making it harder to
concentrate fire. Many batteries fought well defensively in their
seperate positions during the battle, but the advantages of massed
fire power were gained only twice: by Ruggles' Confederate line
facing the Hornet's Nest, and by Grant's last line.
Cavalry on both sides suffered similarly from a lack of centralized
organization. These shortcomings in artillery and cavalry organization,
however, were not as deleteriuos at Shiloh as they might have been
because of the way the woods and heavy terrain of the battlefield
limited cavalry and artillery activity.
It is interesting to speculate what might have happened to the
Union command if Grant had fallen casuality instead of A.S. Johnston?
The Alabama Slammer
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26.4 | Can't see diddly! | ELMAGO::WRODGERS | I'm the NRA - Sic Semper Tyrannis | Thu Oct 31 1991 13:32 | 16 |
| Having walked ground across which Johnston attacked, it is
baffling to me that a soldier of his experience and wisdom
would have chosen such an attack. It is true that he had
nearly as many men as Grant, and had the Federals in a bind
with their backs and flanks penned. It is also true that
the he had to attack the Federal armies in detail if he was
to have any chance at all.
Still, to think of deploying nearly 40,000 green troops on line
across such thick wilderness and bog....
As at Manassas, the behavior of all the troops at Shiloh was a
crowning tribute to their courage and worthiness as soldiers.
Wess
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26.5 | The morning reverie was disturbed | OGOMTS::RICKER | Lest We Forget, 1861 - 1865 | Mon Nov 04 1991 05:31 | 27 |
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The robins had been chirping in the woods since dawn, and the trees
were full of music, when suddenly a sound not so melodious broke in on
the ears of the soldiers, an occasional shot from the picket line a
mile beyond the camp....As the firing continued....wild birds in great
numbers, rabbits in commotion, and numerous squirrels came flocking
toward the Union lines as though they were being driven from the
woods....
It was now almost six o'clock, and the neighboring infantry
regiments showed tokens of alarm, and some of them began to form line
of battle. By the time that hour actually came the firing had become
quite heavy, a cannon shot now and then being heard in the midst of
the musketry.
An officer said, "...The Rebels must be attacking our outposts."
The words were scarcely spoken when a straggling squad of men came
running by in great excitement, their officers in vain trying to keep
them in order. They shouted the news that the Confederates were making
an attack on the picket line with a heavy force...
By this time the bugles sounded, "Fall in - mount!" and the cavarly
was soon in line. The long roll was beaten among the infantry regiments
in every direction. The men were just at breakfast, and many of them
had to spring into the ranks in a hurry, without waiting to drink their
coffee or eat their hardtack.
Jesse Bowman Young, "What a Boy Saw in the Army", NY, 1894.
The Alabama Slammer
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26.6 | Noise, Bullets and Blood | OGOMTS::RICKER | Lest We Forget, 1861 - 1865 | Mon Nov 04 1991 06:24 | 20 |
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One soldier from Tennessee later wrote: " I heard and read of
battlefields, seen pictures of battlefields, of horses and men, of
cannon and wagons, all jumbled together, while the ground was strewn
with dead and dying and wounded, but I must confess that I never
realized the 'pomp and circumstance' of the thing called glorious war
until this.
Men were lying in every conceivable position; the dead dying with
their eyes wide open, the wounded begging piteously for help, and some
waving their hats and shouting us to go forward.
It all seemed to me a dream; I seemed to be in a sort of haze, when
siz, siz, siz, the minnie balls from the Yankee line began to whistle
around our ears, and I thought of the Irishman when he said, 'Sure
enough, those fellows are shooting bullets!'"
Sam R. Watkins, "Co. Aytch," A Side Show of the Big Show,
1987; Broadfoot Publishing Co., Wilmington, NC.
The Alabama Slammer
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26.7 | A Letter from Grandpa | DECLNE::WATKINS | Elvis is living in Peoria | Thu Oct 22 1992 11:28 | 13 |
| After 3 years of looking I finally got a copy of the letter my
G-G-Grandfather wrote from Pittsburg Landing on March 20, 1862. He was
with the Company D 40th Illinois Infantry.
Most of the letter is typical subject matter, but a couple of
subjects.
Sometime prior to March 20, company D had been scouting into
Mississippi.
The Union Army with as estimated 100,000 troops were convinced they had
the South hemmed in and if the South didn't surrender then surely one
battle would be all it would take.
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