| Title: | SNA GATEWAY NOTEFILE |
| Notice: | Note 1.* -> kits and doc, 288.* -> obtaining product support |
| Moderator: | EDSCLU::GARROD |
| Created: | Fri Feb 07 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 7116 |
| Total number of notes: | 28576 |
Hi,
I configured an Alphaserver 4100 with a token-ring controller attached to a
3174, but we couldn't put this configuration to run. I followed the hints on
notes 5869.* and 6597.*, still nothing became active (link, tg, etc).
We think the token-ring physical layer is fine because it has TCP/IP up and
running on this interface.
Below is our software versions:
Peer Server v1.3
Digital Unix v3.2g
The following is the actual status of my link:
ncl> show llc2 sap sna-0 link link-0 all
state = on
Protocol State = Halted
Remote LLC Class = Unknown
We changed the Transmission Group to Permanent and then we started to send
XID as reported on note 6597.*
The customer has a RS6000 today running on the same 3174 IBM controller and
every time we test our Alpha with the same cable, but in our case nothing
became active.
I have some doubts:
1 - Is this configuration supported/usual, I mean a TRN connection
to a 3174 IBM controller ? ? ?
2 - On note 6597.2 the solution was to change the TG conn type to
"Permanent" and do the same at IBM side.
I asked to our customer to do the same on his
side, but he said that becouse they are using the TRN though
a 3174 they don't have such parameter. And he also said that
a RS6000 are running without with this TRN link.
My questing: is that possible ? ? ?
Please any help will be very appreciated ! ! !
Thanks ! ! !
Tony Anderson
Pre-Sales
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7085.1 | EDSCLU::KELLY | Mon May 05 1997 18:57 | 48 | ||
Tony,
First the questions:
> 1 - Is this configuration supported/usual, I mean a TRN connection
> to a 3174 IBM controller ? ? ?
NO
> 2 - On note 6597.2 the solution was to change the TG conn type to
> "Permanent" and do the same at IBM side.
> I asked to our customer to do the same on his
> side, but he said that becouse they are using the TRN though
> a 3174 they don't have such parameter. And he also said that
> a RS6000 are running without with this TRN link.
> My questing: is that possible ? ? ?
Setting the transmission group connection type to "permanent"
means that the Transmission Group is activated when it is enabled
and remains active until it is disabled. This is why you see XID's
flowing now. It should not have anything to do with the IBM side.
There have been some discussions about this configuration in the notes
file, but without more information we can not determine what
is going on. Please provide:
1) A CTF trace of the sap link when you try to bring the link up.
2) The following ncl output for the sap link while trying to bring it
up.
ncl> show llc2 sap sna-0 link link-0 all
ncl> show llc2 sap sna-0 all
ncl> show sna cp serv t g * all
3) If you can, include the Peer Server ncl startup script.
Thanks,
Jim Kelly
IBM IC Engineering Support
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| 7085.2 | Thanks and more information ! ! ! | VAXSPO::TONY | And the winner is... WINDOWS NT | Tue May 06 1997 07:53 | 128 |
Hi,
First of all, thank you very much for your attention ! ! !
We'll go to the customer today morning to provide you the following:
>>1) A CTF trace of the sap link when you try to bring the link up.
>>2) The following ncl output for the sap link while trying to bring it up.
>> ncl> show llc2 sap sna-0 link link-0 all
>> ncl> show llc2 sap sna-0 all
>> ncl> show sna cp serv t g * all
And below we attached our ncl startup file (item 03).
Tony Anderson
Pre-Sales
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>>ncl file<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
!
! Set up SNA Access Server Entity
!
create node 0 sna access server
!
! Set up SNA Data Link Entity
!
!
! Set up LLC2 Entity
!
create node 0 llc2
create node 0 llc2 sap SNA-0
set node 0 llc2 sap SNA-0 -
lan station = Token Ring station TRN-0, -
local lsap address = 04
create node 0 llc2 sap SNA-0 link LINK-0
set node 0 llc2 sap SNA-0 link LINK-0 -
acknowledge timer = 1000, -
holdback timer = 500, -
local receive window size = 127, -
maximum data size = 521, -
remote lsap address = 04, -
remote mac address = 02-00-8c-2e-80-88, -
! This canonical address was converted from 40-00-31-74-01-11
retry maximum = 10
!
! Set up Token Ring Entity
!
create token ring
create token ring station TRN-0 communication port tra0
set token ring station TRN-0 ring speed 16
!
! Set up SNA LU Services Entity
!
create node 0 sna lu services
set node 0 sna lu services default transmission group = TG-0
!
! Set up SNA LU Services LU Entities
!
create node 0 sna lu services lu LU2 -
dependent lu transmission group = TG-0, -
dependent lu address = 2, -
capability = Both, -
maximum active sessions = 0, -
old name = "TU0.2"
create node 0 sna lu services lu LU3 -
dependent lu transmission group = TG-0, -
dependent lu address = 3, -
capability = Both, -
maximum active sessions = 0, -
old name = "TU0.3"
!
! Set up SNA LU Services Access Name Entities
!
!
! Set up SNA LU Services Authorization Entities
!
!
! Set up SNA LU Services Partner LU Entities
!
create node 0 sna lu services partner lu TOK92402 -
destination name = NETWORKT, -
destination network = ESCELSA, -
transmission group = {TG-0}
create node 0 sna lu services partner lu TOK92403 -
destination name = NETWORKT, -
destination network = ESCELSA, -
transmission group = {TG-0}
!
! Set up SNA CP Services Entities
!
create node 0 sna cp services -
network id = ESCELSA, -
cp name = CP0, -
maximum active TGs = 4
create node 0 sna cp services transmission group Intranode -
intranode = Yes
create node 0 sna cp services transmission group TG-0 -
data link = LLC2 sap SNA-0 link LINK-0, -
intranode = No, -
dependent lu support = Yes, -
connection type = Permanent, -
node id = %X07100000
!
! Enable all entities
!
enable node 0 llc2 -
sap SNA-0
enable node 0 llc2 -
sap SNA-0 link *
enable token ring station TRN-0
enable node 0 sna lu services lu *
enable node 0 sna cp services transmission group *
enable node 0 sna access server
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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| 7085.3 | Trace file and ncl status ! ! ! | VAXSPO::TONY | And the winner is... WINDOWS NT | Thu May 08 1997 14:01 | 334 |
Hi,
I am at the customer site and now we have the information that you
requested to better understand what's going on.
I noted looking at ctf trace file that we are sending "NXID", is it right ?
I mean we are supposed to send "NXID" ? ? ?
If not, how we can change it to send XID ? ? ?
What else could be wrong ? ? ?
Again, thank you very much for your attention ! ! !
Tony Anderson
Pre-Sales
Below, I appended all output of your commands ! ! !
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
ctf> start llc2 sap sna-0 link link-0,full,out=out1
ctf> anal out1,full,out=out_txt
-----------+----+-----+<-----802.2 Frame Header------>+----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rem Time |Evnt|Data |Dst Src C P Type N N |DATA
hh:mm:ss.ms| |Size |SAP SAP R F R/S R/S |
-----------+----+-----+<----------------------------->+----------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:24:24.42|Open| 0| Port Opened |
13:24:24.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:27.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:30.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:33.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:36.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:39.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:42.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:45.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:48.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:51.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:54.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:24:57.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:00.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:03.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:06.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:09.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:12.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:15.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:18.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:21.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:24.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:27.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:30.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:33.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:36.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:39.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:42.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:45.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:48.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:51.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:54.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:25:57.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:00.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:03.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:06.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:09.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:12.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:15.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:18.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:21.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:24.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:27.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:30.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:33.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:36.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:39.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:42.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:45.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:48.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:51.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:54.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:26:57.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:27:00.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:27:03.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
13:27:06.42| Tx| 3| 04 04 C P NXID |
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
ncl> show llc2 sap sna-0 link link-0 all
Node 0 LLC2 SAP SNA-0 Link LINK-0
AT 1997-05-07-13:26:15.696-03:00I-----
Identifiers
Name = LINK-0
Status
State = on
Protocol State = Halted
Remote LLC Class = Unknown
Remote Receive Window Size = 0
UID = 9C248CA2-C6F4-11D0-8893-0000F80117C6
Characteristics
Acknowledge Timer = 1000
Holdback Timer = 500
Maximum Data Size = 521
Local Receive Window Size = 127
Retry Maximum = 10
Remote MAC address = 02-00-8c-2e-80-88
Remote LSAP Address = 04
Counters
Data Octets Received = 0
Data Octets Sent = 0
Data PDUs Received = 0
Data PDUs Sent = 0
REJs Received = 0
REJs Sent = 0
RNRs Received = 0
RNRs Sent = 0
XIDs Received = 0
XIDs Sent = 51
FRMRs Received = 0
FRMRs Sent = 0
Polls Received = 0
Times Acknowledge Timer Expired = 0
Times Poll Timer Expired = 0
Times Reject Timer Expired = 0
Times Busy Timer Expired = 0
Times Link State Changed = 1
Times Link Running = 0
Times Link Initializing = 0
Times Link Resetting = 0
Times Link Halted = 0
Times Link Inoperative = 0
Times Link Setup Failed = 0
Creation Time = 1997-05-07-13:11:48.771-03:00I-----
ncl> show llc2 sap sna-0 all
Node 0 LLC2 SAP SNA-0
AT 1997-05-07-13:26:15.859-03:00I-----
Identifiers
Name = SNA-0
Status
State = On
LAN Port = TOKEN RING Port %XFFFFFC000715A000
Maximum PDU Size = 17796
UID = 9C195D32-C6F4-11D0-8893-0000F80117C6
Characteristics
LAN Station = TOKEN RING Station TRN-0
Local LSAP Address = 04
Counters
Times SAP State Changed = 1
Creation Time = 1997-05-07-13:11:48.697-03:00I-----
ncl> show sna cp services t g tg-0 all
Node 0 SNA CP Services Transmission Group tg-0
AT 1997-05-07-13:26:16.000-03:00I-----
Identifiers
Name = TG-0
Status
UID = 5E843CF6-C6F6-11D0-8893-0000F80117C6
State = On
Protocol State = Connecting
INIT_SELF Supported = No
BIND Supported = No
Adjacent Node BIND Assembly = Unsupported
BIND Pacing Support = No
Dependent LU BIND Pacing = No
SSCP Mediated Sessions = No
Adjacent Station Node ID = '00000000'H
Adjacent Network ID = ""
Adjacent Station CP Name = ""
Adjacent Station PU Name = ""
Adjacent Station ALS Name = ""
Characteristics
Intranode = No
Connection Type = Permanent
Dependent LU Support = Yes
Segmentation Support = Session
BIND Pacing Window Increment = 1
Disconnect Timer = 30 seconds
XID Retry Timer = 3 seconds
Data Link = LLC2 SAP SNA-0 Link LINK-0
Node ID = '07100000'H
Required Adjacent Node ID = '00000000'H
Required Adjacent Network ID = ""
Required Adjacent CP Name = ""
Counters
Successful Activations = 0
Activation Failures = 0
Deactivations = 0
Connections Lost = 0
Octets Sent = 0
Octets Received = 0
BTUs Sent = 0
BTUs Received = 0
COLD ACTPUs Received = 0
ERP ACTPUs Received = 0
ACTPUs Rejected = 0
DACTPUs Received = 0
Protocol Violations = 0
Creation Time = 1997-05-07-13:24:24.000-03:00I-----
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
That's my ncl file used in this test:
!
! Set up SNA Access Server Entity
!
create node 0 sna access server
!
! Set up SNA Data Link Entity
!
!
! Set up LLC2 Entity
!
create node 0 llc2
create node 0 llc2 sap SNA-0
set node 0 llc2 sap SNA-0 -
lan station = Token Ring station TRN-0, -
local lsap address = 04
create node 0 llc2 sap SNA-0 link LINK-0
set node 0 llc2 sap SNA-0 link LINK-0 -
acknowledge timer = 1000, -
holdback timer = 500, -
local receive window size = 127, -
maximum data size = 521, -
remote lsap address = 04, -
remote mac address = 02-00-8c-2e-80-88, -
retry maximum = 10
!
! Set up Token Ring Entity
!
create token ring
create token ring station TRN-0 communication port tra0
set token ring station TRN-0 ring speed 16
!
! Set up SNA LU Services Entity
!
create node 0 sna lu services
set node 0 sna lu services default transmission group = TG-0
!
! Set up SNA LU Services LU Entities
!
create node 0 sna lu services lu LU2 -
dependent lu transmission group = TG-0, -
dependent lu address = 2, -
capability = Both, -
maximum active sessions = 0, -
old name = "TU0.2"
create node 0 sna lu services lu LU3 -
dependent lu transmission group = TG-0, -
dependent lu address = 3, -
capability = Both, -
maximum active sessions = 0, -
old name = "TU0.3"
!
! Set up SNA LU Services Access Name Entities
!
!
! Set up SNA LU Services Authorization Entities
!
!
! Set up SNA LU Services Partner LU Entities
!
create node 0 sna lu services partner lu TOK92402 -
destination name = NETWORKT, -
destination network = ESCELSA, -
transmission group = {TG-0}
create node 0 sna lu services partner lu TOK92403 -
destination name = NETWORKT, -
destination network = ESCELSA, -
transmission group = {TG-0}
!
! Set up SNA CP Services Entities
!
create node 0 sna cp services -
network id = ESCELSA, -
cp name = CP0, -
maximum active TGs = 4
create node 0 sna cp services transmission group Intranode -
intranode = Yes
create node 0 sna cp services transmission group TG-0 -
data link = LLC2 sap SNA-0 link LINK-0, -
intranode = No, -
dependent lu support = Yes, -
connection type = Permanent, -
node id = %X07100000
!
! Enable all entities
!
enable node 0 llc2 -
sap SNA-0
enable node 0 llc2 -
sap SNA-0 link *
enable token ring station TRN-0
enable node 0 sna lu services lu *
enable node 0 sna cp services transmission group *
enable node 0 sna access server
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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| 7085.4 | Trace form RS6000 already running ! ! ! | VAXSPO::TONY | And the winner is... WINDOWS NT | Thu May 08 1997 14:33 | 845 |
Hi,
I don't know if it helps, but last night after almost two hours of hard work
(no manuals) we started a trace on RS6000 that has this configuration running.
Could you please take a look to see if we discover what's different on their
connection that make it works ! ! !
Thanks for ANY help ! ! !
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Wed May 7 18:06:21 1997
System: AIX rs6000 Node: 3
Machine: 000011421000
Internet Address: 00000000 0.0.0.0
trace -a -g -o /var/sna/tok924
ID ELAPSED_SEC DELTA_MSEC APPL SYSCALL KERNEL INTERRUPT
243 0.007283968 7.283968 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0011
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= NULL
SSAP= 04
Control Command TEST
Packet_Data
10404000 31740111 40000000 00040004
F3
244 0.009033472 1.749504 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0023
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 01
Control Response TEST
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 01118270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0401F3
240 0.009295360 0.261888 OpenLink_DLC
Token_Ring
IEEE_802.5_Token_Ring
Diagnostic_Tag= tok924
Remote_Station= 4000317401110000000000000000000000000000
Remote_Address= 400031740111
243 0.010563840 1.268480 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0011
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command XID
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040404
BF
243 0.010579968 0.016128 Send_DLC_Data: FDDI
Data_Length= 0000
Class= Asynchronous Frame
Frame Address Length= 16-bit Address
Priority= 000
Destination_Address= 0009001E0700
Source_Address= 0009001E0700
Routing= No
DSAP= NULL
SSAP= NULL
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 00 Rcv_Seq_Number= 00
Packet_Data
244 0.014632448 4.052480 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0023
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 05
Control Response XID
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 0111C270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0405BF
243 0.040936704 26.304256 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0011
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command XID
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040404
BF
243 0.040957696 0.020992 Send_DLC_Data: FDDI
Data_Length= 004A
Class= Asynchronous Frame
Frame Address Length= 16-bit Address
Priority= 000
Destination_Address= 00000000B008
Source_Address= 000000000000
Routing= No
DSAP= NULL
SSAP= 01
Control Response
Packet_Data
324A0710 00000000 B0080000 00000000
00010B71 000FDC00 0000007F 00102B00
16110113 0012F7F0 F1F30000 00000000
00000000 00001411 040804F0 F1F0F2F0
F10908F5F6F0F1F2F8F7
244 0.044407552 3.449856 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0023
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command SABME
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 0111C270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
04047F
243 0.044479488 0.071936 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0011
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 05
Control Response UA
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040405
73
244 0.045931776 1.452288 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0024
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 01
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 0111C270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
04040101
243 0.046198016 0.266240 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0012
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 05
Control Response RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 01
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040405
0101
244 0.056095232 9.897216 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0036
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 00 Rcv_Seq_Number= 00
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 0111C270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
04040000 2D000000 757D6B80 00110201
050000000644
243 0.079163392 23.068160 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0012
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 00 Rcv_Seq_Number= 02
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040404
0002
243 0.079181056 0.017664 Send_DLC_Data: FDDI
Data_Length= 001D
Class= Asynchronous Frame
Frame Address Length= 16-bit Address
Priority= 000
Destination_Address= 757DEB800011
Source_Address= 124040404040
Routing= No
DSAP= 40
SSAP= 40
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 40 Rcv_Seq_Number= 00
Packet_Data
2D000000 757DEB80 00111240 40404040
40404000000701000000000000
244 0.081849088 2.668032 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0024
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 05
Control Response RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 02
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 01118270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
04050102
244 0.097369856 15.520768 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0030
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 02 Rcv_Seq_Number= 02
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 0111C270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
04040202 2D000200 757E6B80 000D0201
244 0.097798656 0.428800 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0030
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 04 Rcv_Seq_Number= 02
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 01118270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
04040402 2D000300 757F6B80 000D0201
243 0.157745152 59.946496 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0012
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 02 Rcv_Seq_Number= 06
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040404
0206
243 0.157764096 0.018944 Send_DLC_Data: FDDI
Data_Length= 0021
Class= Asynchronous Frame
Frame Address Length= 16-bit Address
Priority= 010
Destination_Address= 757EEB80000D
Source_Address= 010100854000
Routing= No
DSAP= NULL
SSAP= 0C
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 0E Rcv_Seq_Number= 03
Packet_Data
2D000002 757EEB80 000D0101 00854000
000C0E03 00010000 00404040 40404040
40
243 0.160258560 2.494464 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0012
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 04 Rcv_Seq_Number= 06
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040404
0406
243 0.160734720 0.476160 Send_DLC_Data: FDDI
Data_Length= 0021
Class= Asynchronous Frame
Frame Address Length= 16-bit Address
Priority= 011
Destination_Address= 757FEB80000D
Source_Address= 010100854000
Routing= No
DSAP= NULL
SSAP= 0C
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 0E Rcv_Seq_Number= 03
Packet_Data
2D000003 757FEB80 000D0101 00854000
000C0E03 00010000 00404040 40404040
40
244 0.161024512 0.289792 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0024
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 05
Control Response RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 04
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 0111C270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
04050104
244 0.164075264 3.050752 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0024
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 05
Control Response RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 06
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 01118270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
04050106
244 0.174425600 10.350336 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0470
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 06 Rcv_Seq_Number= 06
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 01118270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
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15154040 40404040 40404040 C5C5C5C5
C5C54040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C3C3C3C3
C3C34040 C5C5C5C5 C5C54040 D3D34040
40404040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C1C1C1C1
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40404040 40404040 40404040 C5C54040
40404040 E2E24040 40404040 C3C34040
40404040 C5C54040 40404040 D3D34040
40404040 E2E24040 40404040 C1C14040
C1C14040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 C5C5C5C5
40404040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C3C34040
40404040 C5C5C5C5 40404040 D3D34040
40404040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C1C1C1C1
C1C14040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 C5C54040
40404040 40404040 E2E24040 C3C34040
40404040 C5C54040 40404040 D3D34040
40404040 40404040 E2E24040 C1C14040
C1C14040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 C5C5C5C5
C5C54040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C3C3C3C3
C3C34040 C5C5C5C5 C5C54040 D3D3D3D3
D3D34040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C1C14040
C1C14040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 15154040
40404040 40404040 C4898789 A3854081
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85409799 85A2A289 96958540 8140A385
83938140 4CC5D5E3 C5D96E7A 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 15404040 40404040
404040C1 406040C3 D4E24040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
404040C2 406040C2 81958396 40848540
C4818496 A2408485 40C489A2 A3998982
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40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
404040C3 406040C4 85A28595 A59693A5
89948595 A3964040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
404040C4 406040C2 81958396 40848540
C4818496 A2408485 40C59587 85958881
9989816B 40C18494 899589A2 A3998183
81964085 40C68995 81958385 89999640
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
404040C5 406040C5 95A39981 84814084
8540C481 8496A24B 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404015 15404040 40404040 404040D8
A4819398 A4859940 97999682 93859481
40839694 409640A2 85A44085 98A48997
81948595 A3966B40 8681A596 99404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404085
95A39981 99408594 40839695 A381A396
40978593 9640A385 93858696 958540F3
F4F860F4 F2F6F56B 40C4C1C9 4B404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404015
243 0.175303424 0.877824 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0012
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 06 Rcv_Seq_Number= 08
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040404
0608
243 0.175320320 0.016896 Send_DLC_Data: FDDI
Data_Length= 000D
Class= Asynchronous Frame
Frame Address Length= 16-bit Address
Priority= 010
Destination_Address= 000187900010
Source_Address= 03000000041B
Routing= No
DSAP= 09
SSAP= EF
Control Response I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= C4 Rcv_Seq_Number= 00
Packet_Data
2C000002000187900010030000
244 0.177538560 2.218240 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0470
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 08 Rcv_Seq_Number= 06
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 01118270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
04040806 2C000300 00010380 00151515
15154040 40404040 40404040 C5C5C5C5
C5C54040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C3C3C3C3
C3C34040 C5C5C5C5 C5C54040 D3D34040
40404040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C1C1C1C1
C1C14040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 C5C54040
40404040 E2E24040 40404040 C3C34040
40404040 C5C54040 40404040 D3D34040
40404040 E2E24040 40404040 C1C14040
C1C14040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 C5C5C5C5
40404040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C3C34040
40404040 C5C5C5C5 40404040 D3D34040
40404040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C1C1C1C1
C1C14040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 C5C54040
40404040 40404040 E2E24040 C3C34040
40404040 C5C54040 40404040 D3D34040
40404040 40404040 E2E24040 C1C14040
C1C14040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 C5C5C5C5
C5C54040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C3C3C3C3
C3C34040 C5C5C5C5 C5C54040 D3D3D3D3
D3D34040 E2E2E2E2 E2E24040 C1C14040
C1C14040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 15154040
40404040 40404040 C4898789 A3854081
40D6D7C3 C1D64084 85A28591 81848140
85409799 85A2A289 96958540 8140A385
83938140 4CC5D5E3 C5D96E7A 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 15404040 40404040
404040C1 406040C3 D4E24040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
404040C2 406040C2 81958396 40848540
C4818496 A2408485 40C489A2 A3998982
A4898381 96404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
404040C3 406040C4 85A28595 A59693A5
89948595 A3964040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
404040C4 406040C2 81958396 40848540
C4818496 A2408485 40C59587 85958881
9989816B 40C18494 899589A2 A3998183
81964085 40C68995 81958385 89999640
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
404040C5 406040C5 95A39981 84814084
8540C481 8496A24B 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404015 15404040 40404040 404040D8
A4819398 A4859940 97999682 93859481
40839694 409640A2 85A44085 98A48997
81948595 A3966B40 8681A596 99404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404085
95A39981 99408594 40839695 A381A396
40978593 9640A385 93858696 958540F3
F4F860F4 F2F6F56B 40C4C1C9 4B404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040
40404040 40404040 40404040 40404015
244 0.178441216 0.902656 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0024
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 05
Control Response RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 08
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 0111C270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
04050108
243 0.179191296 0.750080 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0012
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 08 Rcv_Seq_Number= 0A
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040404
080A
243 0.179207936 0.016640 Send_DLC_Data: FDDI
Data_Length= 000D
Class= Asynchronous Frame
Frame Address Length= 16-bit Address
Priority= 011
Destination_Address= 000187900010
Source_Address= 030000050108
Routing= No
DSAP= 0A
SSAP= 2B
Control Response I_Frame
Send_Seq_Number= 16 Rcv_Seq_Number= 00
Packet_Data
2C000003000187900010030000
244 0.182134784 2.926848 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0024
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 05
Control Response RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 0A
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 0111C270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0405010A
244 32.699952896 32517.818112 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0024
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 0B
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 0111C270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0404010B
243 32.700039680 0.086784 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0012
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 05
Control Response RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 0B
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040405
010B
244 71.104186112 38404.146432 Receive_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0024
Token= 1 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400000000004
Source_Address= 400031740111
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 04
Control Command RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 0B
Packet_Data
10404000 00000004 40003174 0111C270
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0404010B
243 71.104272640 0.086528 Send_DLC_Data: Token_Ring
Data_Length= 0012
Token= 0 Monitor= 0 Priority= 000
Type= 01
Control= 000000
Destination_Address= 400031740111
Source_Address= 400000000004
Routing= No
DSAP= 04
SSAP= 05
Control Response RR
Rcv_Seq_Number 0B
Packet_Data
00404000 31740111 40000000 00040405
010B
| |||||
| 7085.5 | EDSCLU::KELLY | Thu May 08 1997 14:47 | 18 | ||
Tony, I ran your NCL file here and everything looks ok. The PU became active. It does not look like a peer server problmem. You said that an RS6000 is using the same cable, but when you plug the same cable to the ALPHA server, the connection does not become active. Questions ? Is the address that the 3174 has defined for the downstream PU (for the ALPHA) correct ? Does it match the tok address for the AlPHA ? This should be worksheet 940 for the 3174. Is this down stream address the same for both the ALPHA and the RS6000 ? Jim Kelly | |||||
| 7085.6 | EDSCLU::KELLY | Thu May 08 1997 15:48 | 30 | ||
Tony,
Thanks for the RS6000 trace. Hopefully it will help clarify the questions in
the previous note.
ALPHA |
|tra0 addr = 400000000004 >>------------<< 3174 addr = 400031740111
RS6000|
1) Check to see what the ALPHA token ring address is:
netstat -Itra0
Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll
tra0 4092 DLI none 779 0 357 0 0
tra0 4092 <Link> 00:00:93:08:52:9f 779 0 357 0 0
Unless there is a specific downstream PU address set up for the ALPHA server,
the address needs to be 400000000004 not 00:00:93:08:52:9f (a universal
address). In any case make sure the tra0 address on the ALPHA and the
downstream PU address on the 3174 match. I am sure it is easier to change the
token ring address on the ALPHA.
Jim Kelly
| |||||
| 7085.7 | Fake MAC address in our tra0 ? ? ? | VAXSPO::TONY | And the winner is... WINDOWS NT | Fri May 09 1997 09:58 | 53 |
Jim,
RE: .5
>>I ran your NCL file here and everything looks ok. The PU became active.
>>It does not look like a peer server problmem.
Thanks ! ! !
I think you are right ! ! !
RE: .5
>>You said that an RS6000 is using the same cable, but when you plug the same
>>cable to the ALPHA server, the connection does not become active. Questions ?
Sorry, if I let you think this. The RS6000 is using the same 3174 controller,
line, pu, etc. When we start our test, first I shutdown the SNA on RS6000
and after, start our Peer Server. Btw, we are all connected on the same MAU,
but using different cables and the cable is fine because I can ping (TCP/IP)
all systems in the TRN MAU.
RE: .5 and .6
>>Is the address that the 3174 has defined for the downstream PU (for the ALPHA)
>>correct ? Does it match the tok address for the AlPHA ? This should be
>>worksheet 940 for the 3174.
>>ALPHA |
>> |tra0 addr = 400000000004 >>------------<< 3174 addr = 400031740111
>>RS6000|
Great ! ! !
I think this is the point. Looking at RS6000 SNA definition, pure token-ring
configuration and the trace file from note ".4" we realize they created a
fake mac address "40-00-00-00-00-04" that match exacly with the address
configured "INSIDE" 3174.
So, the point is: they are capable to create a ALTERNATE MAC ADDRESS, as
they call, on RS6000 and it avoids changes on 3174.
Questions:
Is there any way to assign another mac address in our token-ring
controller ? ? ?
Obs: We have some political issues to change the configuration of 3174...
And if not, my MAC is 00-80-13-98-52-FA as reported by ncl.
Do I need convert this address to canonical format before put this
value INSIDE 3174 ? ? ?
Again, thanks for your attention ! ! !
Tony Anderson
Pre-Sales
| |||||
| 7085.8 | EDSCLU::KELLY | Fri May 09 1997 13:09 | 7 | ||
Tony, No one in our group has set up a locally administered MAC address for DUNIX, I have posted a note for the Digital Unix group and asked them if there is an easy way to do this. They usually reply within a day. Jim Kelly | |||||
| 7085.9 | EDSCLU::KELLY | Fri May 09 1997 14:33 | 8 | ||
Tony, I spoke with IBM support here and they suggested, that if you were going to add the MAC address to the 3174 that you add an entry for the canonical and the unconverted MAC address. That way you are covered in both cases. We are still waiting for a response from Digital Unix. Jim Kelly | |||||
| 7085.10 | Now we can chamge our MAC, but... | VAXSPO::TONY | And the winner is... WINDOWS NT | Mon May 12 1997 18:01 | 14 |
Jim,
We find a way to our change the MAC address from note 9768.4.
I deleted the DECnet modules that came with Peer Server and reinstalled
from DECnet/OSI v3.2A (DNADLI320 and DNANETMAN320), but our situation
are still the same and we stopped send XID's.
We'll remove all Peeer Server and DECNET subsets and install again to
see if we'll be back to send XID's
I'll let you know ! ! !
Again, thank you so much for your attention ! ! !
Tony
| |||||
| 7085.11 | This should work. | EDSCLU::KELLY | Tue May 13 1997 14:00 | 107 | |
Tony,
Tony,
I see that you have been following note 9768. I have not tested this, but
according to DecNet Engineering, you should be able to upgrade to
DecNet OSI 3.2A or greater and be able to set the local token ring mac address.
I would recommend upgrading to DecNet OSI 3.2B (see note 9392 in Digital Unix).
Version 3.2A had some memory problems that were fixed in 3.2B.
======================================================================
note 9768.2
======================================================================
set up with NCL ?
If yes then its a simple matter to :-
ncl set token ring station TRN-0 ring station address 02-00-04-48-0E-80
Note that the address has to be re written, reverse the nibbles and
then the bits in each nibble. ie 40 -> 02 00 -> 00 20 -> 04 12 -> 48
70 -> 0E 01 -> 80
======================================================================
After you have the system back. I would think the following should work.
1) Delete DecNet OSI modules (Use setld -i to make sure they are uninstalled)
2) Install DecNet OSI 3.2A or 3.2B
3) Rebuild the kernel using.
/usr/sbin/t21setup kernel
4) After kernel rebuild reboot system to pick up the new kernel.
=========================================================================
**** Other notes that need to be considerd:
=========================================================================
------------
snagwy::4975
------------
... upgrading the 3174 to config
support-C and adding the APPN NN LIC should solve the problem - in
this case, the 3174 would recognise the Peer Server as a T2.1 node,
and we have been told by IBM support that the 3174 can handle
downstream T2.1 nodes with both dependent andindependent LUs....
------------
snagwy::5723
------------
...Well, it really depends on the level of the software in the 3174 - it has
to be high enough to support APPN LEN nodes on the token-ring (level "C"
I think)...
------------
snagwy::6281
------------
ncl> create token ring station trn-1 communication port tra0
ncl> set token ring station trn-1 Ring Speed 16Mbps
ncl> set token ring station trn-1 Station address 40-00-12-34-56-78
The fix for the dna_dli has to be installed. For the DEC SNA Peer Server
the DLI is "static", means build into the kernel.
/var/subsys/dna_dli.mod ( for dynamic load )
/usr/sys/opt/DNADLI320/dna_dli.o ( build into the kernel )
For DEC SNA Peer Server the fixed "/usr/sys/opt/DNADLI320/dna_dli.o" has
to be installed and a new Kerel has to be build. Changing
/var/subsys/dna_dli.mod has no effect for the Peer Server!
Customer test was o.k.
===============================================================================
Note 6230.13 Change Token Ring Source MAC Address
for IBM 13 of 19
BOBINS::DAVIESH
16 lines 21-FEB-1996 03:40
-< Currently, DEC UNIX and Peer have
"old" module. >-
Thanks Mike ...
State of play as I see things (MAC address change was successful
yesterday) ...
. DEC UNIX 3.2C and 3.2D and Peer Server 1.3-1 all use same dna_dli.o
. DECnet/OSI 3.2-1 (equal to 3.2A) has the "MAC changeable/new" module
. if you put the new module in /usr/sys/opt/DNADLI320 and then install
Peer Server, Peer Server REPLACES the module (so one then has to copy
the dna_dli.o module BACK onto the disk), and then do the kernel
build.
================================================================================
Jim Kelly
IBM IC Support Engineering
| |||||
| 7085.12 | exit | COPCLU::PALMANN | Thu May 15 1997 11:37 | 18 | |
Hi, About your entry 7085.3 The Peer server is supose to send NXID ( Nul XID ) Then the other end shal answer with an NXID. Then the Peer Server will send an XID3, ( this contains things like node type, CP name, NETID and lost of other stoff ) Then the other end will answer with an XID3 also. This can go an for a while, and they get allong. Best of luck. Jan | |||||