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Title:SNA GATEWAY NOTEFILE
Notice:Note 1.* -> kits and doc, 288.* -> obtaining product support
Moderator:EDSCLU::GARROD
Created:Fri Feb 07 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:7116
Total number of notes:28576

7010.0. "SNA SENSE DATA 08570002 MEP-VT V3.0 VTAM 4.2/ESA" by BARNA::DSMAIL () Thu Feb 13 1997 14:50


	I have a customer that has the following configuration :


	Digital enviroment:
	
      A) Vax 4100 OVMS 5.5-2H4, MEP-VT V2.3, MEPRTL V1.0B  (local)
      B) Vax 4100 Ovms 5.5-2 , MEP-VT V2.3, MEPRTL V1.0B  (remote througth 
							   routeabout 90)
      C) Vax 3100 OVMS 5.5-2 , MEP-VT V3.0, MEPRTL V1.1  (remote througth
							  WANrouter 500)
      D) Domain SNA Gateway sw V2.0
	

	IBM enviroment:

      E) IBM 3090 , VTAM v3.3/XA
      F) IBM 3090 , VTAM v4.2/ESA
      G) 3270 terminal's connected to E)	
      H) 3270 terminal's connected to F)	

      He try a connection from G) terminals to vaxes A),B),C) and all work fine.
      When he connects from H) terminals to vaxses A) and B) he doesn't found
      any problem , but he isn't able to connect to vax C).

      The opcom message that appears in VAX C) console , comming from domain
      gateway  is that follows :
      

      %%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 13-FEB-1997 11:09:40.07 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
      Message from user SYSTEM on VX1109
      Event: Outbound Connection Rejected from :Node NISSAN:.GW1102 SNA Access  
             Server , at: 1858-11-17-01:25:35.670-01:00Iinf
	     Port=SNA Access Server Port 24,
	     Reason=652
	     eventUid   5AEAA560-886E-1135-8000-08002B36CE66
	     entityUid  CE122800-886A-1135-8000-08002B36CE66
	     streamUid  CDBE3BA0-886A-1135-8000-08002B36CE66
 
      %%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 13-FEB-1997 11:09:40.07 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
      Message from user SYSTEM on VX1109
      Event: Session Start Failure from: Node NISSAN:.GW1102 SNA LU Services,
             at: 1858-11-17-01:25:35.670-01:00Iinf
             SID='D95F6C2CFD86F60A'H,
	     LU=BERGE,
	     Remote LU=LDPMCS,
	     Initiating LU= LDPMCS,
	     Sense Data='08570002'h
	     eventUid   5AEAA560-886E-1135-8000-08002B36CE66
             entityUid  CE122800-886A-1135-8000-08002B36CE66
             streamUid  CDBE3BA0-886A-1135-8000-08002B36CE66


	The sense data translation is "SSCPLU session is not active "
	Customer says that LU in IBM is up and actived.

	Is there any incompatibility between VTAM v4.2 and MEP-VT v3.0 ?
	
	Any pointer to MEP-VT kit ( MEPVT030.B and MEPVT030.C )????	
	

        Any suggestions will be appreciate

	Thank's in advance

	Luis Miguel Sanchez
	BARCELONA SUPPORT

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7010.1FREE::CAMBRIAWe're just one PTF from never talking to VTAM againFri Feb 14 1997 11:2348
>                      <<< Note 7010.0 by BARNA::DSMAIL >>>
>             -< SNA SENSE DATA 08570002 MEP-VT V3.0 VTAM 4.2/ESA >-
[snip]
>      He try a connection from G) terminals to vaxes A),B),C) and all work fine.
>      When he connects from H) terminals to vaxses A) and B) he doesn't found
>      any problem , but he isn't able to connect to vax C).
[snip]
>      %%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 13-FEB-1997 11:09:40.07 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>     Message from user SYSTEM on VX1109
>      Event: Session Start Failure from: Node NISSAN:.GW1102 SNA LU Services,
>             at: 1858-11-17-01:25:35.670-01:00Iinf
>             SID='D95F6C2CFD86F60A'H,
>	     LU=BERGE,
>	     Remote LU=LDPMCS,
>	     Initiating LU= LDPMCS,
>	     Sense Data='08570002'h
>	     eventUid   5AEAA560-886E-1135-8000-08002B36CE66
>             entityUid  CE122800-886A-1135-8000-08002B36CE66
>             streamUid  CDBE3BA0-886A-1135-8000-08002B36CE66
[snip]
>	The sense data translation is "SSCPLU session is not active "
>	Customer says that LU in IBM is up and actived.

The 08570002 sense code, when sent from the DG, indicates that the 
gateway (usually) could not establish a network connection from the gateway 
to the system where MEP (LU Berge) is _configured_ to be.

The text in the OPCOM message above: "Event: Session Start Failure" is 
100% misleading(==wrong).  In SNA, you can't have a Session Start Failure 
until the CDINIT rq receives a +rsp.

There are many reasons why that sense code is used <vbg>, but they 
all relate to the gateway not being able to get things going with the 
application.  For example, 

    o The object pointing to the application may not be configured right
    o The application may not be running (or able to start automatically)
    o The application may be running, but the connection request to it 
      times out
    o There may not be a "network" route between the gateway and the VAX
      at that moment
    o etc.

You need to take a logmask trace and see how far you get from the gateway 
to the vax.

MikeC