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Conference dssdev::decforms

Title:DECforms
Notice:This is not an official software support channel. Kit info: 4.L
Moderator:DSSDEV::FORMS
Created:Thu Mar 23 1989
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4004
Total number of notes:16520

3991.0. "Vms Decforms/3270 front/end for Unix?" by ROM01::OLD_CIPOLLA (Bruno Cipolla) Wed Apr 09 1997 18:31

    oh my god!
    
    
    a prospect wants to connect many 3270 terminals over a SNA network to 
    existing applications running on an existing  Digital Unix system.
    
    the prospect is willing to modify his forms.
    
    given that:   (please correct any mistakes)
    
    1) there is no 3270 forms facility on Unix (even w/3270 App services)
    2) there is no SNA printer support in Unix (even w/3270 App services)
    3) but 1 & 2 are available with Decforms 1.4 and 3270 App services
       together and the domain Gateway on Alpha VMS.
    
    how about installing:
    
    - a VMS/AXP system with Decforms 1.4 and 3270 App services
    - a domain gateway
    
    and:
    
    - develop the decforms/3270 forms on the VMS system 
    - use the AXP/Vms as a forms front-end to the applications running 
      on Digital Unix
      and let the Unix application logic exchange (socket) data with the
      forms-machine when needed
      (is there a better way to run Forms for a Unix app on a VMS machine?)
    
    like this:
    
    			+-----------+
    	 		| VMS/axp   |
    +----------+	| Decfrm 1.4|
    | Unix/axp |	| 3270 svcs |
    | applicat |	|           |
    +----------+	+-----------+
        |	      	         |	
    -------------------------------------------------
    					    |
    					+---------+
    					|Domain   |
    					|Gateway  |
    					+---------+
    					   |
    					+------+
    					| IBM  |------3270s and printers
    					+------+
    
    
    am i crazy?
    could it work?
    
    an alternative would be to use the MEP/VT to access existing VT forms
    on the unix system, but it lacks printer support and accessing VT forms
    from 3270s is not the best way to work.
    
    thank you in advance for your feedback!
    Bruno
    
    x-posted into the decforms and Snagwy conferences
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3991.1DSSDEV::DINTINOThu Apr 10 1997 14:2813
Bruno,

I'm not sure about all you described, but I am sure of a few things.
One is that there is no DECforms available on Unix, so in your 
description ALL the forms processing must be done on VMS.  That is,
the forms themselves must be developed and run from there, and all
the DECforms calls to interact with the forms must be done on the
VMS side.  Data is transferred between the forms and the VMS app by
a block-mode record structure when using the 3270 mode.  So, I guess
if your VMS app can get this data somehow to the UNIX app I suppose
it may work, but it's really ugly.

Domenic
3991.2thanxROM01::OLD_CIPOLLABruno CipollaMon Apr 14 1997 05:308
    re: .-1
    yes, it's ugly...
    
    but, as there is no product on Unix....
    
    it would be very nice to have decforms/3270 and printer symbiont 
    on Dunix... (without needing CICS...)
    Bruno