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Title:Sports Memorabilia
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Moderator:SCHOOL::KOPACKO
Created:Wed Aug 27 1986
Last Modified:Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:730
Total number of notes:8547

492.0. "Upper Deck Heroes Cover Cards - The True Story !!" by FUTURE::JST_ONGE (John St.Onge USDSL DTN 275-2715) Fri Oct 09 1992 13:56

-rjk pointed me to some interesting information  in  the latest Beckett's
basketball. One of the letters stated something like:

"I heard that the Jerry West cover card was printed in the same amount as
the other cards in this Heroes of Basketball subset -- is this true?".

Beckett's went to Upper Deck and asked them about it. They confirmed that
the West header card was printed  in  the same quantity as the other West
Heroes cards.  They went on to add the following interesting information:

The ONLY time a heroes cover card is printed in shorter quantity than the
other cards in that set is  when  there is another SP* (short print) card
in the set. The cover card  and  the SP card alternate on printer sheets,
meaning there's half as many  cover  cards  and SP cards as there are the
regular heroes cards from that set.

So for example:

- In 1992 UD Baseball (low), there was SP3 (Deion).   This meant that the
  WIlliams cover cards are only twice  as prevelant as the cards numbered
  #28-36.

- In 1992 UD Baseball (hi), there is an SP4, however, it is one of the UV
  coated cards,  so it shouldn't  have  alternated  with the Bench/Morgan
  cover card  (different stock, printing process, etc.),  so it should be
  just as predominant as the other Bench/Morgan Heroes cards (#37-45).

- In 1992 UD Football (low), there was no SP* card, so the cover card was
  printed in  the  same  quantity  as  the  regular  Payton  Heroes cards
  (#19-27).

So logically,  realistically,  whatever, the *most* any cover card should
cost,  is twice what a regular Heroes cards cost - and only if there's an
SP card in the set,  otherwise it should be similarly priced as the other
Heroes cards.

John
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492.1BaloneySONATA::KELLYMon Oct 12 1992 15:399
    Except......
    That some folks hoard the cards to create artifical demand causing the
    street price (not Becketts) to go up.
    
    Want some Ryan Cover Cards?
    Mike
    PS tell ROY that his BIL's cards are on the way.
    
    
492.2FUTURE::JST_ONGEJohn St.Onge USDSL DTN 275-2715Mon Oct 12 1992 17:186
    Mike, it's nice to know when a  dealer  tells you something like there's
    only 1 per case, it's much rarer than the regular heroes cards etc. etc.
    That way you can say  "Listen you lying scumbag  -  according to UD they
    print this many ...".
    
    John
492.3HeaderSONATA::KELLYWed Oct 21 1992 12:566
    I don't know if this will help.  I open 100's of cases of
    UD.  At this point I'm having (and had) much more success finding
    Heros, holos and SP's in the Grocery store cases.  Those cases are
    the ones with a stand and 24 compartments that look like a sorting
    tray.
    Mike
492.4FUTURE::JST_ONGEJohn St.Onge USDSL DTN 275-2715Wed Oct 21 1992 13:125
    Mike, is that all sports or just baseball.  It seems like the insert
    cards (Heroes, holos, SP's etc) for baseball are much easier to find
    than say hockey or football. 
    
    John
492.5New SetsFUTURE::JST_ONGEJohn St.Onge USDSL DTN 275-2715Mon Nov 09 1992 12:2615
    Some new Heroes Sets coming out:
    
    Wilt Chamberlain - UD First Series Basketball
    Dan Marino - UD Second Series Football
    Willie Mays - UD 1993 First Series Baseball
    
    The Chamberlain and Mays sets look pretty nice. I would've like to have
    seen Upper Deck stick  to  older,  retired  players  instead  of  using
    players who are still playing such as Dan Marino,  Wayne Gretzky etc. I
    would've like to have seen a set on Jim Brown maybe.  I'd love to see a
    set on Sandy Koufax. Do you think maybe  there'll  be  a  set on Mickey
    Mantle now that he's signed with Upper Deck exclusively ? Rick G. wants
    to know ...
    
    John