Conference school::sports_memorabilia

>    	 How can I find out what cards I need?

    There is a book put out by Beckett Publications that lists the
    cards for each team for several years.  To find out more, pick
    up a copy of the latest Beckett football magazine and it is
    sure to have ordering information in there.  This will then
    help you determine which ones you need.

    If you are interested in the cards from update sets, I have
    several of the 89's and 90's update sets from which I pulled the 
    Giants cards, since it is hard to buy these individually.  If 
    you or others are interested in any of the remaining cards, let
    me know.

	Pete

     
    I have alot of the cards your will need, incl Largent and possibly the
    Jim Zorn rookie. I'll pull out what I have tonight and I'll get back
    with you mannana.
    
    Jim

    >  There is a book put out by Beckett Publications that lists the
    >  cards for each team for several years.  To find out more, pick
    >  up a copy of the latest Beckett football magazine and it is
    >  sure to have ordering information in there.  This will then
    >  help you determine which ones you need.

    
    Don't do this.  This information is not complete. 
    
    As you know, I collect all SD Charger cards, and it's my recommendation
    that you spend the money and purchase the big Becketts book.  I think
    the current one is #8.  It's the only complete source.  Then go
    through, year by year and mark all the players you think are
    Seachickens.  Then go to your local store and check them out.  
    
    The reason the Beckett's team checklist book doesn't work is that it
    doesn't put in unusual cards (Fleer team action, or Swell hall of fame
    or Fleer Stars 'n Stripes) and doesn't put in cards that fit your wish 
    but aren't exactly regular (1000 yard club, record breaker [early Topps], 
    Topps Super, etc.)
    
    I'll send my Charger checklist to you and at least you can use that as
    a template, but first you must decide what EXACTLY you will collect.
    
    For example, I want to have 1 of every Charger card made, given the
    following constraints:
    
    	*  I won't collect regional cards (I'm not interested in cards on
    the sides of milk cartons distributed only in Southern California, or 
    cards in Potatoe Chip bags distributed only in So Calif).  They must 
    be nationally distributed.
    
    	*  I won't collect cards from other countries.  Topps has United
    Kingdom cards.  I'm not interested.
    
    	*  I won't collect promotional cards.  I'm not interested in
    UpperDeck/Dominoes QB cards, or Topps/Coke cards, or Post cereal cards,
    etc.
    
    	*  I collect only regular issue cards.  It's not MANDATORY for me
    to have the Action Packed Marion Butts 24K Gold card.  I have the
    Action Packed Marion Butts card, but it's not 24K, and I don't care. 
    That's outside the realm of my collection requirements.  If I come
    across it, I'll pick it up, but I don't put it on my "missing card
    list".
    
    	*  What about error cards?  Do you want to collect Seachicken error
    cards?  I approach this like this.  I collect Charger error cards, and
    then I want the corrected one as well.  Same thing with Autographed
    cards.  If I have them autographed (and I have alot, Sid Gillman, Ron
    Mix, Lance Alworth, Charlie Joiner, etc) then I also get another card,
    unsigned.  I'm not sure why I do it this way, but I do.
    
    Lastly, don't subscribe to Beckett's Monthly Football, it doesn't
    provide, IMHO, the necessary checklists needed for upcoming sets.  SCD
    does and I subscribe to that.  For example, in one of the few last
    SCDs, their was a checklist for Topps Stadium Football cards.  I went
    through that checklist, picked out the Chargers, added them to my
    missing cards list and am already on the prowl for them.  Becketts I've
    found doesn't give me the checklists I need AHEAD of time.  That's when
    I need it.
    
    If you want more help....let me know.  I don't know if I do it right,
    but I can tell you how I do it.
    
    Live from Charger Central.......Glenn

    � 	*  I won't collect promotional cards.  I'm not interested in
    � UpperDeck/Dominoes QB cards, or Topps/Coke cards, or Post cereal cards,
    � etc.
    
    Yeah. Like everyone's beating down their doors to have the Chargers
    promote items for their products ...

    
    You have to be careful with those team sets.  Sometimes they include
    key cards, rookie cards, league leader cards, team cards, etc.,
    and a lot of times they DON'T.
    
    -rjk

    � 	*  I won't collect promotional cards.  I'm not interested in
    � UpperDeck/Dominoes QB cards, or Topps/Coke cards, or Post cereal cards,
    � etc.
    
    >Yeah. Like everyone's beating down their doors to have the Chargers
    >promote items for their products ...
    
    That's great!  I love it!  Someday.......  I swear that during the 70's
    I was the only Charger fan in the COUNTRY!
    
    Live from Charger Central.......Glenn

	Hey Glenn

	Saints by 16!

    	You should have been me when I lived in San Diego, Denver, and
    Oakland. I was Still a active Seahawks fan. Oakland was the touchiest!
    
    	Now just to keep it up I support the Redskins in Dallas :^)
    
    	I services the 49'ers camp a couple of times, my car had a
    Seahhawks sticker on it, I had a Seahawk pin on my jacket, and my pager
    had a Seahawk sticker on it. 
    
    	On the secone trip this short guy, about my size, came up to me and 
    said "You must realy like th Seahawks!", after a short conversation that 
    came down to "I like people who support their teams, and don't change their
    loyalties", and got 2 50 yard line tickets to a 49'ers and Seahawks
    preseason game. It was Eddie DeBartalo (sp?)
    
    	Eric

    
    Eric,
    
    	Did you get the vaxmail message I sent you yesterday? I sent you a
    list of the cards I had available.
    
    Jim

    
    Eric,
    
    Over the last couple of years I've been working on collcting all of the
    Cleveland Brown cards and I have three suggestions to share.
    
    1) I agree with Glenn ... decide ahead of time (or after seeing a few
       samples) exactly what you want to collect ... which brands, regional
       sets, special issues, etc.
       
    2) I used the following guide book ... "Sports Americana: Football,
       Hockey, Bsskeball and Boxing Card Proce Guide" by Dr. Beckett.  I
       purchased it from Den's Collectibles (301) 776-3900.  This guide
       does list the team beside each player listed in the football section
       (at least the 1989 version did).  Interestingly the hockey section
       does not share this attribute.  The guide lists all major brands and
       a lot of regional and speciality sets also.     
    
    3) My main football card dealer has been;
    		Pat's Coins and Cards
    		3229 West 24th Street
    		Erie, PA 16506
    		(814) 833-0566
    
        I like Pat's for two main reasons ... 1) they give a 10-20% off
        Beckett prices and 2) the selction is great.  They have
        had every Brown card since 1968 except for 1 (they were out of
        Kosar rookies).
    
    Good Luck,
    Greg