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    The 91-92 Hoops cards hit a few southern nh card stores yesterday.
    White boardered fronts and white background backs on what appears
    to me to be much thicker/higher quality stock than last year's cards.
    
    Current rumor:  Production was cut in half from last year.  Of course
    since they printed a zillion last year this might not be saying a 
    whole lot.
    
    I picked up a box for $13.95 and I really like the cards.  Nice sharp
    color photos on the front with head shot photo on the back.  The
    overall look is very "crisp".  Stats on the back have both college
    and NBA records.  There appears to be many subsets, here are a few
    I have seen so far:
    
    	NBA Yearbook, League Leaders, NBA All Star (weekend), 
     	Inside Stuff (backs have off court info on players activities,
    	typically community related, 'Inside Stuff' is an NBA saturday
    	morning TV show apparently), Milestones.
    
    Additonally there is some "commemerative"/"advice" cards, like
    a Robinson "leave out Alcohol" card, a Will Smith stay in school.
    
    I also came across a CC1 card commemerating '100 Years of Hoops',
    featuring Professor Naismith and his ball and baskets.  It has a
    "silver" boarder around the picture of Naismith.
    
    jeff
    

    � Current rumor:  Production was cut in half from last year.  Of course
    � since they printed a zillion last year this might not be saying a 
    � whole lot.
    
    "x% of a whole hell of a lot is still a hell of a lot".
    
    -rjk

    
    	ROTMANS (Worcester, MA) is selling 91-91 NBA Hoops boxes
    	for $13.

    
    
    	Bought a full set this weekend.  Very nice.  I also picked up
    	a complete set of SKYBOX I at a dealer who was folding up shop.
    
    	Bryan

	FYI

	CC1 card is "100 years of Hoop"

    
    There are two commemorative cards ( that I know of ) for the 100
    years of Hoops.
    
    One is part of the regular set:  #301
    
    One is a "CC" card -- CC1.
    
    Jeff mentioned earlier he got one (CC1) in his box, John and I each
    got one in our boxes.  I think these'll be pretty easy to find.
    
    -rjk

    Picked up a box of Hoops this weekend, for $11 at a card show. 
    Completed one set from the box, and got 3 of the CC cards.  The cards
    are nice, my only complaint is that they aren't all cut the same size. 
    When you stack them on end I found two different size cards.  Hopefully
    they don't produce all of them like this.  Comparing them to Skybox and
    Fleer, I'd have to say Hoops are the best out there this year, of
    course Upper Deck is due out around Christmas, so I may change my mind
    then.

    
    There is an additional Hoops basketball card available this year.
    
    It's included when you purchase the new NBA videotape on Larry
    Bird.  It is only available by purcashing the video.
    
    -rjk

    Did anyone else fine the Hornets team card pretty funny? 
    
    The card pictures all of the players and coaches with their
    arms outstretched flying through outer space.
    
    I got a kick out of it, the players look hilarious, and what would
    hornets be doing in outer space anyway? I guess this might explain
    why they picked Larry Johnson -- if he doesn't mind wearing a dress 
    for Converse, then he shouldn't have a problem being an alien hornet
    either...
    
    Some of the other team cards are a little different as well, some are
    pretty normal; give hoops credit for making normally dull team cards
    a bit different.
    
    -dennis    

    Went to a dealer Saturday.  Hoops rack packs will contain a 6 set
    subset (Slam Dunk?) not in the Wax packs...
    
    -Walt
    

    
    RE: 11,
    
    	I got a box of rack packs this past weekend (as a gift, so I don't
    	know the price,place, etc ) . There were 12 racks, each divided into 3
    	"pockets", with a total of 47 cards per rack (15.666666 cards per 
    	"pocket" !!??)  The Slam Dunk Champions I think you're referring to, 
    	depict all the past winners ,well I got 22 of them in my box. The only 
    	"problem" is 10 were Jordan and 12 were Larry Nance !!! Time ot hit 
    	the "Trade" note .
    
	>Brian<

    
    I had one dealer tell me (he "swore") that you get "on average, 4
    complete slam dunk sets per rack box".
    
    He had rak boxes for $19 and was selling the subsets for $6/each.
    
    He proceeded to open a box, and build four subsets out of it, and
    sold me two.  Sure $12 seems high for two subsets, but it's less
    than $19.  And now I don't have to build another set!  8^)
    
    -rjk

    I opted to buy 6 rack packs and got 1 set, plus extra Jordans and
    Wilkins... and I helped finish a set (never really bought a box).
    
    -Walt
    

    
    Walt?
    
    Math doesn't add up.  You bought six rack packs, got a full set
    (which is six cards BTW; I-VI), and two extras?  Huh?
    
    -rjk

    I got more than 2 extras.  I got a whole set plus 1 Jordan, 3 Wilkins
    and 2 Webbs.

    
    
    So Walt?  More than one per pack?  I thought it was one per pack?
    
    -rjk

    
    It seems to be two slam dunk subset cards per rack pack.  I bought
    4 racks, got I thru VI plus two extras.
    
    jeff
    

    47 cards per pack.  45 regular cards + 2 slam dunk cards.

    
    2 SD cards per rack pack!  I get it now.  Pardon the ignorance.
    
    -rjk

    Just wondering how many cards there are in the set?
    Is there going to be a series 2?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Steven
    

    Couple of questions related to the Dr. James Naismith cards....
    
    There are two cards;
    
    1. #301 with Naismith's picture sideways on the face of the card.
    
    Have seen the card priced anywhere from 10 cents to $1.50 each.
    
    2. The other card with his picture printed the normal way on the face
    is numbered "C1"  ? or something like that. This card is normally
    priced up here around Ottawa at around $20. to $30.
    
    How was this second card ditributed that made it more difficult to
    obtain than the other?
    
    What's this second card worth around N.E. ?
    
    thks,
    
    R.M.F.

    
    The second card is numbered "CC1" and was/is distrubuted in the
    wax packs.  It's randomly inserted into packs, approx. one CC1
    card per box, although some people can't seem to get one no matter
    how many boxes they open.  It could be that CC1 was in the early wax
    boxes at about one per box, but not so in later boxes.  I have seen the
    card at shows here in southern nh/northern mass. for $10-$20.
    
    jeff
    

    $10-$20?  Really?  Wow....
    
    I just got one of those cards you send away for.  Nothing to write home
    about.  The Centennial logo on the front and some trivia on the back.

    
    
    RE: .23 Thanks for the info.
    
    RE: .24 That raises another question - what's the picture on the front
    of the one you sent in for. My son wants me to send in for all the
    various mail in thingie's.
    
    Thanks,
    
    R.M.F.

    
    re .24
    >$10-$20?  Really?  Wow....
    
    	It's not like I've ever seen anyone sell one... With any of these
    	insert type limited cards it's always anybody's guess as to what
    	the value is.  The card isn't listed in Beckett, so your average
    	dealer prices it high, in case it actually sells the dealer wants
    	to feel like he got some decent money for it, otherwise he'll
    	hang on to it.  I don't particularly understand this myself, I 
    	thought as a dealer you're there to sell cards, however, if they
    	only have one of them they don't seem to mind hanging onto it
    	unless they find a sucker to cough up a good chunk of change. 
    
    	jeff
    

    	Hi guy's, the card is listed in Beckett Jan 92 issue but,
    it's numbered ( NNO Naismith Special SP ) price  5.00     10.00
    I finally got one and it's # is CC1 and the other card # 301 is
    called the Centennial Card price  .03     .10
    So looks like Beckett made a mistake when it listed the card.
    
    Miguel 

    
    There are three cards that you're all talking about.
    
    One is number #301, and is part of the regular set, and is
    available in the same numbers as all other cards.  It is a
    color-tinted photo of Dr. Naismith.
    
    One is number CC1, and is an "insert" card, and is found in
    the random distribution of other insert cards (supposedly one
    every "x" packs, believed to be 75).  This is also a color
    tinted photo of Dr. Naismith, but this one has a SILVER border
    on the front.  This photo is different from the photo on #301.
    Originally I saw this card for $50-75, and have recently seen
    it as low as $7, with the average now being around $9-10, which
    still seems high by most insert card standards.
    
    The third is a red-white-blue NBA 100 years Centennial (1891-1991)
    logo card, that you receive by mailing away for it.  The first one
    to each address is FREE (excepting of course, the cost of a stamp),
    and each additional one is .50�.  This card has no photo(s) on it,
    only the centennial logo on front, and some text on back.
    
    -rjk

    Hoops II are out, 260 more cards! for a total of 590. This is the
    largest basketball set ever. The packs contain only series II cards
    which is nice. They contain various subsets including draft picks
    (top ten) in their uniforms which is a big improvement over last year;
    USA basketball cards from 92 and years past; ART cards; playoff cards;
    and "Supreme Court" cards which are various stars in yet another card.
    
    nice cards -dennis

    I opened a box and got a gold card that has USA Basketball in the
    middle and on the bottom it says NBA Hoops in gold letters a gold
    boader and in the background 1992. On the back short preview on
    the how this will be the first time nba players play and it names the
    guys on the team.
    Dose anyone know anything about this card. There's no number on the
    back.
    
    Miguel

    Miguel, I've heard of them, my dealer said he had one, but couldn't
    find it today, when I asked to see it.  He said it was a special insert
    card like the CC1's.  Does it have a number on the back??  I just
    bought 2 boxes of II, but haven't opened them yet.  I hope I get one.

    
    The All-Star MVP insert set (hi number rak packs) picks up where
    the low-numbered rak-pak insert set (slam dunk) left off.
    
    These six cards are numbered VII through XII (the slam dunk cards
    were numbered I through VI).
    
    They include; Isaih, Chambers, Malone, Magic, Barkley, and some guy
    from Chicago ...
    
    -rjk

    
    FREE !!!        From the pages of Baseball Cards July 92 issue.
    
    
                  "NBA HOOPS Head of the Class" Card
              Showcases the top 6 picks in the 1991 NBA Draft -
         Larry Johnson,Kenny Anderson,Dikembe Mutombo,Billy Owens,
                    Steve Smith,and Doug Smith on one card.
            The first 10,000 fans to respond to this offer will recieve an
                individually numbered card.
    
    
                    To receive your FREE
              "NBA HOOPS Head of the Class" Card
           send 3 wrappers from 1991-92 NBA HOOPS Series 1
         and 3 wrappers from 1991-92 NBA HOOPS Series 2 and a
         ---     self-addressed stamped envelope to:    ---
    
                "NBA HOOPS Head of the Class" Card
                           Dept. C
                         P.O. Box 3080
                      Westbury NY  11592-3080
    
    One order per envelope. Offer expires June 30, 1992 or while supplies
    last. Void where prohibited. Wrappers will not be returned. Be sure to
    print your name,address,daytime phone number,and date of birth on the
    attached form or on a 3" x 5" card.
    (WA residents need not send self-addressed stamped envelope.)
    Entries must be received by June 30,1992
    
    
    
    JD

    
    Did anyone get a HOTC card?
    
    I got mine in the mail this weekend.  Not nearly as nice as last
    year's card, but still pretty good.
    
    I imagine with only 10,000 being produced that they will carry a
    premium, but I've yet to see one for sale ... anyone, anyone, anyone?
    
    -rjk

    yes, I was also one of the lucky winners, got mine Friday.
    
    I think its pretty ugly, but it is kind of dificult to get six
    pictures and six lines of stats on one card.
    
    -dennis