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    And there will be more cards in the set this year (no rookies until
    the update sets you investors you) -- and a number of subsets (bet
    that thrills John no end) -- such as "pro vision", "schoolyard stars",
    "all-star game", etc.
    
    5 cards in the pro-vision set (DRobinson is the only one I remember
    off the top of my head).
    
    I think the set is going to run around 240 cards or so.
    
    FWIW, there will also be Fleer Ultra basketball ...
    
    							-rjk

    	The Fleer Basketball has been expanded from last year 198
    cards to 240.
    There are 4 subsets in this edition, which include a Fleer ALL-
    STAR team (10 cards); and League Leaders (7 cards). This year 
    Fleer is also presenting SLAM DUNK Contestants, which include
    Dee Brown (6 cards); and NBA All-STAR Highlights (6 cards).
    The 27 coaches from each of the teams are also included this 
    year, and are arranged in the set as part of the team.
       The limited, randomly inserted subsets this year include:
    PRO-VISONS; NBA SCHOOL YARD STARS; and the ROOKIE SENSATIONS.
    List of Rookie Sensations;
     1. Travis Mays, G
     2. Kendall Gill, G
     3. Derrick Coleman, C
     4. Dennis Scott, F
     5. Lionel Simmons, F
     6. Dee Brown, G
     7. Gary Payton, G
     8. Chris Jackson, G
     9. Willie Burton, G/F
    10. Felton Spencer, C
    
    Miguel 

    
    The All-Star selections are bogus, if the list I saw was accurate.
    
    How could ANY All-Star list leave off DRobinson?
    
    -rjk

    
    I had my usual luck with Fleer.  That's right -- everyone gets
    a (near) complete set, or complte set -- whatever the norm is
    for that issue -- EXCEPT me.
    
    I was missing three cards, and didn't get doubles of any of
    the DRoby issues.
    
    I talked to a bunch of dealers about these on Saturday, and
    they all said, to a man, that they were getting 5 out of the
    6 PV cards in EACH wax box.  Well, I got 6 PV's, unfortunately
    one was a double, and one was wax-stained.
    
    Last year it took a LONG time for the wax prices to drop to a
    "reasonable" level ($16-18).  Second week released and their already
    at $14 a box, or $13 in quantity?
    
    Why?
    
    I'll tell you.  They're ugly, plentiful, and ugly.  They're going
    to be like the football before long -- people buying the wax
    merely for the PV cards ... I saw wax boxes of the football selling
    for $7-10 (yes, SEVEN DOLLARS!) this weekend, and CLEARANCE prices
    of $7/set (yes, again, seven dollars!) on last year's basketball
    sets.
    
    Those of you interested in these might want to wait for the rack
    or cello cards (schoolyard stars, rookie sensation), and pick up
    the PV cards seperately (they're plentiful and relatively cheap
    right now).
    
    Looking at the list of players in the SS and RS subsets, I don't
    think they're going to reach last year's sets.  In fact, they'll
    likely drop like the stickers and last year's All-Star sets did/do.
    
    Just MHO ...
    
    -rjk

    
    
    		BJ's (Westboro, MA) is selling the 91 Fleer Basketball
    		boxes for $13, and they still had quite a few of the
    		91 Score Baseball factory sets for $22.

    
    Actually Juan, I thought the Score set was $21, not $22?  ($20.99).
    
    Finally saw the great and wonderful BJ's today.
    
    Boy did you guys have me fooled.  I thought it was something
    meaningul, not just one wire rack full of wax boxes in the middle
    of the candy section ... boo hiss.

    
    
    	Roy, that's what happens when you have high expectations about a
    	place.  We never said it was great, we just said they have this,
    	and they have that.  Actually, they used to have quite a bit more
    	as far as selections of sports cards go, but lately they don't
    	seem to have as much, and you can't deny that $21 (not $22 like
    	I said) is the best price you have seen anywhere for the Score
    	factory set. They also had, about 3 weeks ago, the Donrus factory
    	sets with the preview cards in them, for $21, another unbeatable
    	price.  Of course, they are all gone now, which is expected for
    	such a good price.

    Not sure of the details, but I went to a dealer on Saturday and he told
    me he was expecting shipment of "Rookie Sensation" sets.  Not sure if
    someone else was putting them together and he was buying them or if
    Fleer was putting them together separately.  Either way, that beats
    $3/cello in my book...
    
    -Walt
    

    where have you seen them Mike?

	The cards show I attended last night..
	They even came in a plastic box.! ;^)

	I'ld wait.... I'ld say, $20 before the month
	is through.

	Mike  (I'm buying at $15)

    
    I agree regarding waiting, watch 'em fall once UD Basketball hits
    in mid december (or so).  Fleer will be a tuff sell then.
    
    jeff
    

    
    Just bought a box of wax packs for $10.  Do the Rookie Sensations 
    only come in the cello packs?
     

    Only in the $1.99 wax packs...

    
    Anyone have a 91-92 checklist I may borrow?
    
    Thanks,
    Greg
    
    PS - I bought one pack ... Jordan, Ewing, 5 stiffs and 7 coaches
    

    Look like Fleer is coming out with an update set of 160 cards
    available in wax packs.
    Fleer's update series include all new cards of team leaders,rookies,
    traded players, veterans and coaches.
    As a special premium, 4000 signed cards of Dominique Wilkins or
    Mutumbo, 12 different cards each, will be randomly inserted.
    Each pack contains 9 new update cards and 5 of the orginal series.
    Each box contains 36 packs and each pack contains 14 cards.
    
    Miguel

    
    No.  I won'tsay what I was going to say.  This is a family-style
    notesfile, so I'll keep my swearing fits to myself.

    I picked up complete sets of the Suns, Bulls, and Lakers at a local
    supermarket.  Only $2 apiece.
    
    Mike

    You got hosed... i've seen the sets going for $6.  You can probably
    find them cheap if you go to a shop...

    Well we're very green in this hobby (just started).  I thought $2 was
    cheap for a whole team.
    
    Mike

    
    High number wax, update series is out in both regular wax and
    cellos (45 cards).  In both is a "limited series" mutumbo and
    somebody else cards (dominique wilkins i think).
    

    Location?
    Cost?

    
    I saw some in particular at the Dugout in Amherst, nh.  Packs were
    55 cents, with the marked $1.99 cellos going for something
    ridiculous like $2.75.  I don't think the cellos have anything
    different from the wax packs.
    
    jeff
    

    
    Ayuh Jeff, it's Mutombo, and 'Nique.
    
    And I believe I read that the Cello packs are supposed to contain
    randomly inserted "Hot Rookie Sensation" (Johnson, Dikembe, etc.)
    cards -- thus the price.
    
    Of course, this leads one to say, what are they going to have for
    insert cards in next year's LO cellos?  I dunno.  if this year's
    baseball is any indication, probably rookie sensation cards of
    Larry, Magic, and Michael.
    
    -rjk

    Isn't Dikembe out for the year now - surgery on his thumb or
    something ?
    
    John

    
    Ayuh.  He has pretty much the same injury David Robinson has.
    And there go my chances at a basketball rotisserie championship.
    8^(
    
    

    Its too bad Fleer didn't offer a Fleer Ultra Basketball set similar to
    the 92 Ultra baseball that just came out. There is no Stadium
    Basketball, so Fleer could have been the first with premium high
    quality glossy basketball cards. I think this would have been a big
    hit for them. Oh well, maybe next year. I am glad that they didn't 
    offer Ultra Basketball similar to the 91 Ultra football -- not much
    premium about these cards.
    
    -dennis 

    
    I was mistaken about the HRS cards in cello packs.  All you get in
    the cello packs is 48 cards (down from the 57 in the lo series),
    which I assume breaks down to about 30/18 hi/lo).
    
    -rjk

    roy, are you saying that there are no HRS cards afterall? The cello
    packs have the same contents as the wax, just more cards? 

    I have opened 4 Jumbo packs, and haven't found any special cards.  I
    didn't get any Mutombo's or Wilkin's either.

    
    Ayuh, thta's what I'm saying.  All you get w/the cellos is MORE
    cards.  Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
    
    -rjk

    How hard are these Inserts(Mutombo, and Wilkins) to come by??  I have
    opened 12 Cello Packs and found none.  I also have a guy who works here
    who has opened a bunch and only come up with three.  Do we just have
    bad luck, or are these subsets going to be hard to put together???

    
    I opened a box, got 2 Mutombo inserts.
    
    Dealer tried to sell me a box this weekend, fanned a HANDFUL of cards
    at me, and said he found that many in ONE box.  Feast or famine.
    Fleer's promotional material says they should average about 1/10 packs.
    
    Super card show at the ACC?????
    
    -rjk

   > Super card show at the ACC?????
      What's that? And when? 
                                  Denny

    
    
    That's what I was asking Denny!  8^)

    
    I believe it's the Augusta Civic Center (ACC), there is a show there
    April 18th, I 95 exit 31 10-7 120 tbls $3 admission.
    
    jeff
    

    at Notre Dame that's the Athletic and Convocation Center......
    1 mile south of the South Bend exit on I90.....
    
    :-)
    
    Dick

    Supershow at Augusta Civic Center.  120-150 Tables.  Fred Lynn will be
    signing free autographs from 1pm until 4 pm.  Directions once you are
    in Maine, follow I95 to Augusta, take exit 31A it says Civic Center on
    the sign.  The Civic Center is right off the exit.  DEC Augusta is just
    up the road about 3/4 a mile the opposite way.