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	I heard there going to make the 1992 series available before
	the 1991 season.... ;^)))

    I saw them for the first time last night and there isn't to much
    of a difference from the 1990 set.The only change that I saw was
    some Official cards.
              
                                John
    

	I heard over the weekend from a dealer that Pro Set is recalling all
	the cases they have shipped! They released the set with seventeen (17)
	unlicensed cards...

	THIS IS ONLY A RUMOR.... I heard from a dealer at a show...

    
    
    	Sounds like a plot the dealers would make up to have an excuse to
    	jack up the price.  Who in his sane mind would expect anyone to return
    	error boxes ....  fishy, very fishy .  

1991 Pro Set FB at the Salem Show on Sunday $16.00/BOX, Waxers still $.50.

There is a special Maryland card ala Jeff George #697 (I think). Also saw 
(I believe it was) Walter Payton w/ Racing car Tire (Collectible Card).
There are about three "collectible cards" just like last year.

The cases are presently being sent to dealers.

Nothing heard of any return of cases to Pro-Set.

JMP

    
    	At the show that I attended last weekend at Park West Hotel in 
    	Marlboro, the dealers were selling the Wax boxes for $14.50 - $15.00,
        but I didn't buy any, because I know they will be available later
    	at BJ's for around $13 a box.

    
     How about the Rocket man card? I believe its a World Football League
    card. I seen at the shows its worth $6.00-$10.00. Pro-set has a few 
    good ones this time versus the pass. Last year they had the Super-pro
    and the Santa Claus card before X-mas,lets see what they'll have this
    year.
    
    ted

	I opened a box last night and found 'Walter Payton' hold a tire
	over his right shoulder, and a checkered flag waving in the background.
	
	The card number was 'Special Collector's card 1'

	Look out auto racing cards!

	Mike

    
    More grist for rumor mill, a local dealer here in NH said that the
    players association had files suit against ProSet for 13 (not 17)
    unlicensed cards and that perhaps existing first boxes and/or the
    13 cards would be recalled.  Personally I think ProSet probably did
    this on purpose to create some interest in their otherwise
    uninteresting and low-quality cards.  But it appears that if this is
    indeed true, it may drive up the prices of the first issue boxes.
    
    Anyone hear anything more on this?
    
    jt
    

    
    Re: .11 and SCD article
    
    Did they happen to list which 13 cards are involved in the dispute?
    

    Out of five dealers that I called,one said that he called Proset and
    they denied (Proset) that any cards were being called back for 
    any reason(s). 
    
    One dealer said that he saw a Whitney Houston card
    at a card show selling for $10.00 to $15.00,and the card is only
    worth five cents,and the only cards that are worth more are the
      Red Grange   Walter Payton   and a rookie card #694 maryland  
    
    John
    

    
    I just bought another box of Pro Set,and the distribution of cards
    were nothing like the first box that I bought.
    
    1st box had,1 Rocket,1 Payton,all the WFL cards,
    and 1 Whitney Houston.
    
    2nd box had,5 Paytons,4 Gazette's,and 1 Maryland #694.
    There were no WFL players,no Whitney,no Rocket,no Gazette,
    
    Heres a good one,I got 1 Walter Payton card with a blank front,
    hows that for an Error,Becketts has it at $5.00,what is it 
    worth now ?
                                         John
    
    There will bo no #2 card in Series I.
    

    263.14>>>> I seen the Whitney Houston card in the Beckett going
    fot $1.50. But at the show I did see it going for $10.00-$5.00.
    
     Also at the show they said their were three Red Grange cards.
    I have one that looks like a black and white with him running.
    Its listed as xx Horseman/Grange, my card has a #2 on the lower
    right hand corner. No double xx's, he said the other one had 
    three horses on the front. 
     

    Anyone know anything about a Pro Set Platinum set?
    

    I picked up Billy Joe Tolliver in Pro Set Platinum today.  It's an
    action picture on the front that's borderless.  A circle is in the
    lower corner with Pro Set Platinum on it.  The card looks very shiny. 
    Coated I guess.  To look at the back, you need to turn the card
    lengthwise with the top 2/3rds another picture of the player and the
    bottom 1/3 with information.  No stats, but the name in a script hand,
    the team, card number, NFLPA and PRO SET logos and a little blurp about
    the player.  They look very nice.
    
    I saw packs going for $2.99 today.  I paid .10 for this one card.
    
    Live from Charger Central.......Glenn

    regarding pro set platinum:
    
    Supposedly "just" 10,000 cases.  According to an article in SCD,
    it will be a 300 card set, released in two 150 series.  Boarderless
    glossy finish similar to TSC.  12 cards per pack, reported dealer
    price is $462 a 20-box case or $23.10/box.  Suggested retail price
    is $1.25 (where have we heard that one before?).  Dealers like
    Smokey's are offering to buy cases at $800 per, so it looks like
    another issue that may be similar in pricing to stadium club. 
    
    The article states the above regarding pricing (i.e. it's not my
    opinion).  The article is very complimentary about both the front and
    back photos, there are several subsets as well as certificates for
    one-gram Platinum cards, about one per case.
    
    jeff
    

    
    
    I saw these (FB) for sale this weekend in Sturbridge.  $86/box.
    
    They weren't moving.  They weren't even attracting attention.
    
    Pro Set has fast found it's way from the doghouse to the outhouse.
    
    -rjk

    I saw boxes of ProSet Football Series II today.  I picked up a few
    Chargers.  FYI...Series II is out there.
    
    Glenn

    
    Series II is indeed out there.  Most dealers have it for around $13-14.
    
    These cards begin where series I left off ... at card 406.
    
    I believe they run until 812 (card #812 is a the NY Giants 3rd round
    draft choice, and since, as Super Bowl Champions, they drafted last
    ...)
    
    There is no large gap this year, as there was last year (for the final
    update set).  I have little doubt there will be a final update set,
    but it will likely start it's numbering with #813.
    
    There are 7 "special cards" in this series:
    
    	o ProSet Mini Gazette II (I was in series I)
    	o Otto Graham
    	o Paul Brown
    	o Jim Thorpe
    	o Santa Claus
    	o Ottis Anderson Super Bowl XXV MVP card (the first 24 MVP's were
          in last year's set, so this card can either be considered part
    	  of this year's set, or last year's, depending on your point of
    	  view).
    	o HHH MetroDome (site of Super Bowl XXVI, and I'm sure Super
    	  Card Show III).
    
    I have an extra Otto Graham and Santa Claus, and I'm still looking
    for two Russell Maryland inserts from series I (#694).  I'm willing
    to trade them one-for-one if anyone has RM insert cards ...
    
    -rjk

    I had went to the store and bought 6 packs.The first pack I opened I
    got a weird card!!!At first I thought it was santa claus.But when I
    looked on the back it showed an elv.The front side showed santa claus
    so I am confused if its santa,an elv,a new colectible or not? If yours
    looks like this please tell me.
    
                     			Thank You 
    						Marshall

    Does anyone know about these 1991 ProSet Football Spanish cards.  A
    dealer had a box of them and I picked up a Charger.  The entire card is
    in Spanish, both front and back.  
    
    		"NFL ProSet  La tarjeta oficial de la NFL"
    
    Are they in Becketts or anything?  Is there a checklist anywhere?
    
    Glenn

    
    	Glenn,
    
    		Cuanto estaba cobrando el vendedor por las ....
    
		ooops...
    
    		sorry, got carried away with my Spanish when I read
    		the last note.
    
    		How much was the dealer charging for the spanish box ?.
    
    		I haven't seen those around here yet, but I did see a set
    		of spanish basketball cards for $20.
    

    My dealer here has more boxes in stock now.  I found more Chargers. 
    They're listed in team order so the Chargers go from 208 - 217 or close
    to that.  Anyone else getting any of these?  I saw them in SCD last
    week.  
    
    The cost per box here is $17.95.
    
    Live from Charger Central.......Glenn

    Has anyone ever seen the 1991 Pro Set Football Final Update cards?
    (the final 38 cards in the set). One dealer I spoke with told me that
    these cards were only available through a send-away offer, I'm not
    sure what he meant by that.
    
    Anyway, I'd like to get my hands on a set, but I have not seen them
    in any of the shops around here (upper mass, lower NH).
    
    -dennis

    You had to send away for it, like the 90 one...