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Conference school::sports_memorabilia

Title:	Sports Memorabilia
Notice:	Wanted: 3.; For_sale: 4.; Traded: 5.*
Moderator:	SCHOOL::KOPACKO

Created:	Wed Aug 27 1986
Last Modified:	Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	730
Total number of notes:	8547

223.0. "HOF voting needs collector knowledge" by SMURF::BREAU (Bush: KNOW new taxes!) Mon Dec 10 1990 08:34

    
    Note 181 in ASABET::BASEBALL is a Baseball Hall-of-Fame election
    ballot.  I figured that guys who collect baseball cards are more
    knowledgeable about the career statistics of players who are now
    eligible, so this is to let you know about the vote going on there.  
    
    I'm kind of suprised at some of the guys on the ballot, let alone some
    of the picks.  I think we can do a better job, so vote now!
    
    BTW, can anyone please provide the career stats of Dick Allen?  He's
    eligible this year.  I remember seeing them somewhere before and
    thinking that he should be in Cooperstown, but as you'll see, not many
    people have voted for him.  One of you guys must have the last Topps
    card for this guy, with all his career stats.  If you can, post them
    here, or post them in note 182 in BASEBALL, which is a note that
    justifies or explains selections in note 181.  Thanks.
    
    - Jim

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223.2 Don't call me Richie OAW::ITZKO Topps '73 #613 Tue Dec 11 1990 16:26 28

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223.2	Don't call me Richie	OAW::ITZKO	Topps '73 #613	`Tue Dec 11 1990 16:26`	28
	As I'm at work and don't keep my collection at my desk, I don't have Allen's stats. I do collect his cards though because I really enjoyed watching him play. He had great power and excellent speed. He also drew great pictures in the dirt around first base (you had to be there). He came up with the Phillies and was a loner. I think that he was rookie of the year. He got into a fight during batting practice with Frank Thomas (a known racist). THomas had made a racist remark to Allen (who is black), a fight ensued in which Allen hit Thomas with a bat on the shoulder. Thomas was traded shortly thereafter to the Mets. Allen was threatened with a big fine by the Phillies owner ,Carpenter, if he told the press the cause of the fight. It wasn't until last year that facts came out. This is getting of the topic of stats. Do I think Allen should be in the HOF? hey it would do wonders for my collection. He's probably just as deserving as some of the others in there and probably not as deserving as some that don't get in there. Anyways if I remember I'll try to pull the stats on him tonite. -pj-

    As I'm at work and don't keep my collection at my desk, I don't have
    Allen's stats. 
    
    I do collect his cards though because I really enjoyed watching him
    play. He had great power and excellent speed. He also drew great
    pictures in the dirt around first base (you had to be there).
    
    He came up with the Phillies and was a loner.
    I think that he was rookie of the year.
    He got into a fight during batting practice with Frank Thomas (a known
    racist). THomas had made a racist remark to Allen (who is black), a
    fight ensued in which Allen hit Thomas with a bat on the shoulder.
    Thomas was traded shortly thereafter to the Mets. Allen was threatened
    with a big fine by the Phillies owner ,Carpenter, if he told the press
    the cause of the fight. It wasn't until last year that facts came out.
    
    This is getting of the topic  of stats. Do I think Allen should be in
    the HOF? hey it would do wonders for my collection. He's probably just
    as deserving as some of the others in there and probably not as
    deserving as some that don't get in there.
    
    Anyways if I remember I'll try to pull the stats on him tonite.
    
    
    
    
                                     -pj-