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Title:GIGAswitch
Notice:GIGAswitch/FDDI Jan 97 BL3.1 914.0 documentation 412.1ion 412.1
Moderator:NPSS::MDLYONS
Created:Wed Jul 29 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:995
Total number of notes:4519

923.0. "Redundancy FDDI-rings" by SETIMC::FORSSTROM_R () Mon Feb 10 1997 07:49

	Hi,
	is the following configuration correct ?

	Will GIGA2 take over the traffic for Ring-1 if GIGA1 is going down, or
	if the FGL-2 card in GIGA1 is faulty ?
	If OK, how long will it take ?


			GIGA1 S=======S GIGA2
			A B            S  A B
		       /   \          /  /   \
	              |     |        /  |     |
	      Ring-1  |     CM------/   |     |  Ring-2
	              |_____|           |_____|


			=== Hunt Groups link
			C   Concentrator

	Thanks,
		Roger Forsstrom
		OMS, Sweden
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923.1NPSS::MDLYONSMichael D. Lyons DTN 226-6943Tue Feb 11 1997 15:0725
        Your topology would recover, but it is not optimal.  In your
    diagram, the most significant recovery times are all spanning tree
    related.  In other words, there's nothing special to the
    GIGAswitch/FDDI system - it depends on the spanning tree parameters. 
    By default a failure involving the change of root port would be the
    typical 50 seconds for root related reconfiguration.
    
        Most people would use a simple dual homing topology with two
    GIGAswitch/FDDI systems for redundancy.
    
    See the following notes for previous discussion on this topic:
    
Notes> show keyword *failover-config*/full


                                   GIGAswitch
Created: 29-JUL-1992 12:28         923 topics         Updated: 11-FEB-1997 14:39
          -< GIGAswitch/FDDI Jan 97 BL3.1 914.0 documentation 412.1 >-
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>FAILOVER-CONFIGURATI 175.18, 175.19, 175.22, 175.23, 363.7, 510.10, 517.0,
                      517.1, 527.8, 527.9, 527.10, 540.0, 540.1, 540.2, 540.3,
                      540.4, 540.5, 540.6, 580.11, 743.8, 743.9, 743.10,
                      743.11, 743.12, 743.26, 868.7
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923.2A clarification to the question.STKAI1::DUFVANils Dufva, Network Services SwedenWed Feb 12 1997 16:3223
    re:.1
    
    Thanks for your input. 
    
    This config has until now consisted of one Giga with some servers
    connected to FGL-4 ports and four FDDI campus-wide rings connected to
    its FGL-2 ports.
    
    Now they will increase the number of servers directly connected to the
    Giga and also dual-home these. A second Giga will be placed besides the 
    first one with a hunt group between, just to get enough ports. There will
    also be a hunt group to a third Giga in another building.
    
    Our idea was that the four FDDI rings should be independent of the 
    loss of one of the Gigaswitches. Could this be accomplished in an
    easier way maybe? What would happen if we just connected both Gigas as
    DAS stations to all four rings, (keeping the path cost for the hunt
    group between them lower than the path cost for the DAS ports to the
    rings) for example?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Nils (working together with Roger).
923.3How about using dual homed hunt groups?NPSS::MDLYONSMichael D. Lyons DTN 226-6943Fri Feb 14 1997 14:5745
        Connecting multiple GIGAswitch/FDDI systems to the same ring will
    work, but it isn't the best use of materials.  If you do this there is
    no possibility of FFDT (full duplex) operation.  Also, since you have
    created loops, you are forcing yourself into spanning tree failover
    scenarios.
    
        The standard dual homing scenario works fine.  Connect all the dual
    homed stations B ports to a "B" GIGAswitch/FDDI system.  Connect all
    the dual homed stations A ports to a "A" GIGAswitch/FDDI system.
    
        Connect the two GIGAswitch/FDDI systems with a hunt group.
    
        If you feel that you can control the wiring changes completely and
    avoid loops, you can turn spanning tree off on all the M ports and the
    hunt group ports.  This avoids some of the spanning tree failover
    delays.
    
        If you can't avoid loops, don't turn spanning tree off.
    
        You can dual home the third GIGAswitch/FDDI system to the other two
    GIGAswitch/FDDI systems, using DAS interfaces for the hunt group
    connections, and dual homing the hunt group ports to the two different
    GIGAswitch/FDDI systems.  I.E. dual homing the hunt group.
    
        For a dual homed hunt group with two members, if one member fails,
    the hunt group will stay up as a single member on the original path
    with diminished throughput (the single member).  
    
        (You may want to locate the "B" ports on the same card - that way
    if the card dies, both ports will fail over and the hunt group will
    become active on the "A" GIGAswitch/FDDI system, instead of running
    with just one active hunt group member).
    
        If both ports die, the hunt group port will go down on the "B"
    GIGAswitch/FDDI system, and the hunt group port on the "A"
    GIGAswitch/FDDI system will become active.
    
        A three member dual homed hunt group operates similarly, but keep
    in mind that if only two members die, the hunt group still won't fail
    over until all the members are dead.
    
        You can keep dual homing additional GIGAswitch/FDDI systems as
    required (until you run out of ports).
    
    MDL