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Title:Nintendo Game Systems
Notice:Please enter Super NES notes in Yuppy::Super_NES.
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Tue Oct 20 1987
Last Modified:Mon Feb 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:847
Total number of notes:11602

671.0. "Super NES vs Sega vs Turbo Graphix 16" by STAR::MARISON (Scott Marison) Wed Oct 02 1991 09:50

I'm not sure if this belongs in this conference, but I'm thinking
of buying one of the above game systems. Any comments on these systems?
Especially the Turbo Graphix 16 system, anybody play it? From what I've
seen, they seem to have some original games available... you can even
play games off a CD...  It funny, i see lots of talk about the Super NES
and the Sega 16-bit system, but not much about Turbo Graphix (In fact,
I've NEVER seen or heard any talk about it...)

Well, what are your comments about these systems?

-scott
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671.1Try the 16 bit notesfile: KBOV06::MEGAYRDARM::finneganDo you want is done right or right now?Wed Oct 02 1991 10:1812
The amount of traffic may tell you something...

Turbo Grafix 16 went head to head with Sega Genesis and the Genesis system seems
to have won out.

I looked at all three and I felt that Turbo Grafix had better peripherals (sp?)
- the hand held can play the same carts as the main system and it has a CD
but not as many games.  Also, the game reviews were not as glowing as Genesis.

Note 38 in the Mega confernce might help.

Neal
671.2My reasons to buyPRIMES::FINKELSTEINDept. of Redundancy Dept.Wed Oct 02 1991 12:3710
    There is no simple answer. They all have nice performance and hardware. 
    
    The question that matters to me is, who has the games
    that interest me and my kids most? From the games point of view, I
    believe that Nintendo wins hands down for shear quanitity and
    selection. This is not to detract from Sega or Turbografix which are
    both fine systems and have some fun games.
    
    Don't buy a system because of 1 or 2 flashy games. Buy it for
    the overall selection of games that you want to play.
671.3i got tgx-16STAR::MARISONScott MarisonThu Oct 03 1991 16:4028
I got tgx-16...

Why?  Well... one major reason was because it had Slaughter House, a
game that I loved to play in the arcade near U. Lowell (when i was a
student, what, 1 year ago?) Another big factor was that the system 
only cost $99, and the games seemed just as good as any games available
on other systems except some seemed more interesting... For example,
I can't think of the title, but it's a war stategy game... Also the CD
player interests me, although it's a tad expensive...  They also had 
(at Toys R Us) some games for only $20.... which I got a few of. They
are all good graphics, and good game play too (although, I've only had
this for 1 night...)  

The golf game is really good, the baseball game is fun, the pinball game
is interesting, and Slaughter House is perfect! (these are the games I
got...)  The game that came with it is OK, I haven't played it much...
but i am impressed by the graphics... I'd say it's equal to Sega's 16 bit
machine (ya ya, tgx-16 really is only an 8 bit CPU... but with a 16 bit
graphics chip, i don't know if the difference will be very big...)

Well, thanks for the pointers and advice... 

I wish there were more stategy games out... Kinda like the kind of
games Intellevision use to sell... Mind games more then just hand-eye
games... (but there's nothing wrong with hand-eye games... I just think
they could have more variety... too many "power up" type games exist)

-Scott
671.4Just got Super NESSALISH::ANDRES_MESmile, God loves you!Tue Oct 08 1991 03:365
    My son just got Super Nintendo for his birthday. So far he
    really likes it. I want to get Pilot Wings for it, because
    you get to skydive. More later...
    
    				Mel
671.5Where is the Turbo Graphix note???LUDWIG::PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Tue Oct 08 1991 10:0710
    Could someone point me to a Turbo Graphix note?
    
    We just got one a few days ago, and last night my wife checked for
    software at Toys-R-Us.  What she found amazed me: we got GALAGA '90
    and Tengen's KLAX - for a paltry $20 each!  (KLAX alone will keep me
    happy for a looooong time!)
    
    I'd like some more info on this wild system.  Help!
    			
    						--Eric--
671.6HSOMAI::MOFFITTTue Oct 08 1991 11:582
    Both TGX-16 and Sega are discussed in KBOV05::MEGA.
    
671.7Voice Chip?WMOIS::NELSON_TOn a Beer day you can Pee foreverMon Oct 14 1991 15:463
    Do any of these have the voice chip? How is the sound?
    
    TN
671.8VOICE sound = PCM ?TKTVFS::SAKAIHiroyuki Sakai C/S Osaka JapanMon Oct 14 1991 21:0718
>    Do any of these have the voice chip? How is the sound?

I think there is a discription about it in previous note.
    
SNES has PCM(sampling sound chip)
GENESIS has 1 PCM
TGX ha no PCM (CD has PCM)

PCM chip can speak clear voice

Sound quality I guess is SNES > GENESIS > TGX.



/Hiro

>    TN

671.9WMOIS::NELSON_TOn a Beer day you can Pee foreverThu Oct 17 1991 14:245
    re.> .8
    
    Thanks,
    
    TN
671.10Having owned all three . . .HPSRAD::JWILLIAMSJohn Williams Cirrus 297-6141Wed Nov 06 1991 14:2626
I sold off the TG-16. Why? I thought the games I bought were crude and I saw
little or no improvement in the offering over time. Maybe they're devoting
alot of attention on CD games, but CD games don't really interest me yet.
The CD games seem to be more expansive, but basically the same old formula.
I sold it off.

I got the SNES after I sold the TG-16, and I own a couple games for it. I like
some of the games ( I was disappointed with actraiser ), but the SNES
certainly is not all it was cracked up to be. I am sure that some really
interesting and unique games will come out for it, mostly ones that use the
unique graphics modes. Pilotwings and F-zero are in this category.

I got the Genesis some time later because of all I had been hearing about
some of the games available for it. NHL Hockey is exceptional. Road Rash
is a riot. Sonic is amazing.

In short, the SNES has superior graphics which can be utilized in some very
interesting games. The Genesis has superior processor speed which can be used
in some very sophisticated games. TG-16 got dull very quickly.

I think for the time being Genesis and SNES will coexist on more or less
equal terms. TG-16 is betting the farm on CD. I for one am not buying.

Why put a 5 million gallon tank on a model T?

							John.
671.11BEING::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Nov 07 1991 08:4216
    There are a bunch of interesting games coming out for the Super
    Nintendo . . . stay tuned.
    
    I've played Super Mario World all the way through, and I have played
    Sonic about half-way through.  I'm using the round-select in Sonic so
    that I don't have to play rounds over and over again after I have
    completed them.  I think Super Mario World is better -- it's got more
    interesting things to do and more interesting places to find.  Sonic
    has really nice pictures, but it is still a standard scrolling
    hit-the-monsters and climb-things game.  Sometimes there is a choice of
    passages to take, but they are nothing special, like finding a secret
    world in Super Mario World.  There are no ghost houses or fortresses in
    Sonic where you have to figure out how to get a path to the exit.
    
    
    				-- edp
671.12Super NES handsdownCUJO::CRANEThe original BUDMANWed Nov 20 1991 17:0512
    My kids opinion:
    
    I rented all three systems for my kids as we are going to sell our NES
    and I wanted them to be sure which new 16 bit system they wanted. With
    them the SNES won handsdown. It has good graphics, I must admit. I saw
    about ten games for sale for it in the mall yesterday. We rented Pilot
    Wings and it is great!
    
    my $.02
    
    BUDMAN
    
671.1316 BIT BUYERS GUIDEEBBCLU::FALZARANOSun Nov 24 1991 20:1235
    If you read the EGM buyers guide for anyone who cant decide wich
    system to get, This mag has some good info that rates all the
    systems and eveb awards best game of the year and more.
    
    Well most of you probably dont have the time to run out and buy this
    mag so I'll post some of the info I read in this note to help those
    that cant decide.
    
    
            Used without permission of Egm...
    
    Best game of the year for any system- Sonic the Hedgehog for Genesis
    Best game of the year for Genesis   - Sonic the Hedgehog
    Best game of the year for SNES      - Super Mario World
    Best game of the year for Turbo     - Bonk's Revenge
    Best graphics in a game             - Sonic the Hedgehog for Genesis
    Best sports game                    - NHL Hockey for Genesis
    Most innovative new game            - Sherlock Holmes for Turbo
    Best RPG                            - Final Fantasy for SNES 
    Best sequel to an existing game     - Super Ghouls n Ghosts for SNES
    Best music                          - Y's 3 for Turbo
    Best video game system              - Sega Genesis
    
    System Ratings...
    
    16 bit systems only...
    SNES          8 8 8 7
    GENESIS       9 9 9 9
    TURBO         6 7 6 6 
    NEOGEO 24 bit 7 6 6 5
    LYNX          6 5 5 5 
    TURBO EXPRESS 7 7 6 7 
    
        There is much more info in this mag I wrote what I think is
    the most important information so if you have any questions please ask
671.14Now?SPIKED::SWEENEYTom Sweeney in OGOSun Nov 24 1991 21:163
    Is this magazine available now?  Is it this month's issue of EGM?
    
    t
671.15HPSRAD::RHUFFMon Nov 25 1991 07:195
    
    	I don't want to sound stupid but what is EGM?  Is it an
    abbreviation?
    
    	Rodney
671.16EGM = Electronic Gaming MonthlyBRAT::SMITHNever say never, I always say.Mon Nov 25 1991 07:257
    
    		re: -.1
    
    		I think it's:  Electronic Gaming Monthly
    
    						    Mike
    
671.17Alphabet SoupSPIKED::SWEENEYTom Sweeney in OGOMon Nov 25 1991 09:458
re: -.1

Quite right.  EGM = Electronics Gaming Monthly.  I nice magazine for seeing
what's coming, and how it's rated.  Especially so for 16 bit games.

I'll try and watch the soup in the future,

t
671.18$4.95EBBCLU::FALZARANOMon Nov 25 1991 14:165
    It is not this months issue. It is a special buyers guide that they 
    make every year before christmas. But this issue is kind of expensive.
    I dont know why. 
    Hope this helps 
                     Rene
671.19WMOIS::RAINVILLEA clear and pleasant danger!Mon Apr 27 1992 19:434
    Turbo Graphics 16 has worse graphics than Super N.E.S. but better sound
    the controllers on snes are more familiar to nes players than the
    T.G.16 controllers .
    	DTR